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Tuesday Bolts – 10.16.12

by Royce Young on October 16, 2012 at 11:06 am 167 Comments

Zach Lowe of SI.com: “And Eric Maynor is back! Remember Maynor, the guy who in 2011 looked like one of the league’s best backup point guards and replaced a benched Russell Westbrook in Oklahoma City’s only Western Conference Finals win? Replace Derek Fisher/Daequan Cook/Thabo Sefolosha with Maynor as the fourth guard/wing in the Thunder’s small lineups, and they should become even more dangerous. Almost any player, big or small, can guard the Cook/Sefolosha/Fisher types — classic “hiders,” all. But Maynor is a good long-range shooter and an accomplished off-the-bounce guy, and that presents problems for any second big man trying to stay on the floor against these guys. A head-to-head against Miami raises the question of whether Durant is ready to guard LeBron for extended stretches. If he’s not, Brooks may be forced to slot Sefolosha in for one of his better offensive options.”

Kevin Kuzminski of News9.com on Harden: “Harden is a great basketball player, but he isn’t a superstar, and doesn’t deserve to get paid like one. The NBA has lost control of its salary cap situation. Without boring you to death, I’ll just say that unless the league changes its salary cap structure, players like Eric Gordon, Roy Hibbert and Brook Lopez will continue to receive “max” contracts just like real superstars, and ruin the market value for every other team in the league. Superstars have the capability to lead a franchise to an NBA title as the No. 1 option. The Thunder has that guy in Kevin Durant. James Harden shouldn’t get paid what Kevin Durant gets paid for the same reason Chris Bosh shouldn’t get paid what LeBron does: He isn’t as good. But the fact is, Bosh does get paid what LeBron does, and while it led the Heat to a championship, it also led them into the financial red. If that’s okay with Heat owner Micky Arison, great, but don’t blame Clay Bennett if he’s not okay with a similar situation in OKC.”

Note: It’s frustrating when people don’t understand the concept of a max contract.

Great read.

John Rohde points out OKC’s riding a six-game losing streak: “The regular season is still two weeks away and already the Thunder has a must-win against the Charlotte Bobcats on Tuesday night. Scoff if you want, but imagine the snickers if OKC — the league’s latest darling and the defending Western Conference champion — lost to the franchise that last season set the record for the worst winning percentage in NBA history.”

The new Seattle arena deal got final approval.

Something about KD’s new restaurant.

Patrick Malee of Dime wonders if Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook traded places: “Still, I think both players would thrive in this re-write of history. Rose is a superstar scorer in his own right, but also more likely to defer to Durant when necessary (in his last high school state championship game at Simeon, Rose totaled eight assists and seven steals while scoring just two points), and the Thunder’s team-first, family-like atmosphere would perfectly suit his temperament. Westbrook, meanwhile, would be free of that “selfish player” talk, and would probably be a perennial MVP contender averaging something like 27-28 points per game. He would thrive as the go-to scorer, and his manic defensive presence would be truly frightening under Tom Thibodeau’s guidance.”

The Thunder were featured quite a bit in ESPN’s comic book preview thing.

Darnell Mayberry: “Daniel Orton will make his debut Tuesday. He’ll split time with Hasheem Thabeet behind Cole Aldrich. That worries me. Thabeet got the backup center minutes in the first two games, but Orton has to split time with Thabeet in the third game. What’s up with that? Methinks it’s pretty telling regarding where the team stands on Orton v. Thabeet. There will be four preseason games remaining after Tuesday, so there’s plenty of minutes left to be had. But cuts will begin soon, and if Orton doesn’t get much time I think that shows where he is in the pecking order.”

Some fan is suing the Thunder.

The Lost Ogle on the death of the Zombie Sonics: “I’m sure you’re being 100% honest, and you stopped writing “Zombies” when the word became a “pain in your ass” to include in mailbags, trade value rankings and an upcoming column that will compare 27 NBA players to your favorite characters from Boardwalk Empire. You know, because “Zombies” is so much more difficult to write than “Thunder.” I doubt it had anything to do with the Zombies schtick becoming tired and boring and old news. And lets look forward instead of backward or something like that.”

HoopSpeak on the perception of James Harden: “I’m fairly certain that had Harden been starting his whole career people would not see him as perhaps a bit passive, unfit to carry a team himself. We hear that starting doesn’t matter. That it’s the amount of minutes a player’s on the court, and that it’s more important to finish a game than it is to start. That’s all true, in terms of real statistical merit. Harden contributed more Win Shares in fewer minutes than Westbrook, so there’s a plain argument he was the more important player. But whether it’s his beard that seems — perhaps unconsciously — to tell fans “I enjoy being a third option” or the fact that he was brought along a little more slowly and continues to come off the bench despite being a top three player at his position, there’s something subverting perceptions of his apparent greatness.”

 

 

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Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

Ive never seen Daniel Orton play

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

Ugh. The only thing worse than Thabeet and Lazar on the court together is Orton and Lazar. 

holeydonut
holeydonut 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Zach Lowe is no longer with SI.com ... I believe he's cut his affiliation with them entirely.

Cuco3
Cuco3 5pts

 @holeydonut He went where all other washed up sports writers go: Grantland.com

holeydonut
holeydonut 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Cuco3 Yeah I really like Grantland... I feel like the writing is a bit more colloquial and entertaining.  I just wanted to point out that Zach isn't writing for SI.Com anymore.  I subscribed to Zach... not to SI.com.   I don't really care who he writes for since his quality of work remains top-notch.

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Cuco3  @holeydonut Not sure if joking, but ironically, I find that grantland seems to put out quality writing much more efficiently than SI...

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

The Thunder will lose tonight.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @C-Wil Is that official GoOTR stuff?  Or just for a comment?  ;)

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/what-is-kevin-durant/

A really cool guy.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Ho hum.  V2.0

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts

lmao omg..that espn comic of lebron is just....tooo much.  I mean, if anyways else read it, do you get the feeling they are making FUN of lebron a little. talking about how he doesnt have to travel anymore cause he can now fly and what not. 

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

So no tv tonight either??

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @okcjim The game is listed on NBA league pass, so there should be some streams around.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @okcjim Nope, Matt Pinto for you!  Or you could go to the game....

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts

so apparently the lakers want fisher back? wtf. i just heard that on espn earlier. 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Legendary_Dork They have no decent backup PG, but he can't sign there untl march 15th

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts

 @f5alcon ahh i see. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Legendary_Dork  @f5alcon Nope he can sign now http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/50409/sources-fisher-free-to-return-to-lakers-now

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

Since Colly wants to shot the ball more how many shot per game would you expect? Did he have a post game at KU?

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Bsooreal Yes.  Nick is fine shooting as much as he does. Our offense is fine. Nick is highly efficient scoring the ball in his current role.  Don't fix what isn't broken.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @justin_mia  @Bsooreal He can shoot once for every 3 rebounds he gets

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Bsooreal sounds good, and for every turnover he has he has to buy a section a hotdog.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @f5alcon  @justin_mia

 So for Perk.... we'll call the Perk-Punt-play for every 5rbs he gets?  I like this rule

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @f5alcon  @Bsooreal Right , if Nick wants to work on something work on getting defensive rebounds.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Bsooreal Ask me in a few days when I've forgotten what happened in Utah.

Perk has a lot of value to our team
Perk has a lot of value to our team 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik  @Bsooreal What happens in Utah stays in Utah.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @diddoff  @OBoymuzik  @Bsooreal 

Don't eat sushi in Utah, brotha. Landlocked.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

Double Recap!

Admittedly I don't think this will be as long as the others. We shall see.

 

-How did 'Ho hum' turn into a (semi) meaningful conversation?

-Sadly, I got hung up on WtLC too

-I don't think I'll ever change my s/n

-EST, what is the link to the most liked post? I want to like it too :)

-Still can't believe I missed out on the old thread (Stupid laptop!)

-I wonder how much the meat of the board will be here in 2 years. Food for thought

-EST - you need to find a new favorite video

-TC, you need a proper meme to catch OBoy. Maybe just a single smiley

-Who is Iggy?!

-We're waiting KennyGee. What was that tweet about?!

-Love that vid Legendary_Dork

-Thar always happens to me too OBoy. Who are Livefyre to tell us what we like?!

-I'm using too many interrobangs?!

-Hi Jax. No just movies, alcohol and family on DT

-Still not over my new comment pop-up problem

-Insert football comment here as if I know what I'm talking about

-Insert another football comment to solidify this - I HATE RIVERS!

-It's OK, ElMexi. We're here to help.

-DennisBerry being DennisBerry again, I see (Taylor Swift comment, is that good for you?)

-CP2 needs to explain himself

-TC, you need help too. Stop like whoring

-cemitten - we knew it! Felix Baumlier

 

-I wonder who OBoy's sister is. I call Tricia_Status

-lol (generally)

 

Weeeeell, this was longer than I expected. Oh well.

Done.

 

 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

-cemitten, what is cleanandoe?

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

 @cleandoe not sure but I'll continue to call  you that.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cleandoe  @cemitten 

Yeah, I wondered about that too . . .

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @cemitten Context.

TC - 'Okay, okay . . . I'm deleting my questions because he's obviously too busy to answer.'

cemitten - 'Keeping your cleanandoe rating up.'

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cleandoe 

:)

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @cleandoe you could step your game up and do 1 year ago today recaps.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @cemitten  @cleandoe 

I can do that one without even looking:

 

-lockout

-lockout

-lockout

-small shred of hope

-hopes building

-hopes dashed again

-lockout

-lockout

 

Done.

 

 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @cemitten 

Not much to recap

http://www.dailythunder.com/2011/10/video-kd-rapping-in-a-club-with-westbrook-alongside/

-Cool video

-Royce thinking it is Velvet Smooth and not Velvet Hoop

-Russ: ball hogging jokes

-Jax annoyed at ball hogging jokes

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cemitten I'll consider it :)

senseandsenescence
senseandsenescence 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe CP2 did explain himself.  Though going back to that thread apparently Jax is a female and also had another DT account which he uses to like my comments.  CP2 actually does leave comments, but he deletes them before you can like them. 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @senseandsenescence 

Oh I thought he was just liking them. 

From what you wrote it didn't look as if you were getting any answers. I'll go and look in the comments RSS feed. You can't delete them from there CP2!

(I don't think)

senseandsenescence
senseandsenescence 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cleandoe I've never seen a comment. So he must post and delete at the same time.  But I get emails from him so either I'm turning into John Nash or he actually does leave comments for a brief moment.  Either way I think we should respect his wishes to remain at double 0 and not like any comments until they've been up for at least an hour or so.

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @senseandsenescence  I need to go read this thread. If that's an accurate summary, it's rife with misinformation unbridled speculation.

senseandsenescence
senseandsenescence 5pts

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct Perhaps you were expending the last few of your 25 free likes.  You just happened on a conversation where a like indicated the statement was true.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @cleandoe remind me of what tweet your talking about?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @kennygee90  @cleandoe http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i131/joshdogg26/lakerstans.jpg

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90  @cleandoe The laker fan that said sorry heat fans ray lewis got injured

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @f5alcon  @cleandoe thanks @OBoymuzik i was lost there for a minute...That dude is dumb lol, im guessing he confused ray with rashard lewis 

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @cleandoe But DT without alcohol would just be insufferable!

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct Let me rephrase.

Hi Jax. No, just movies, alcohol and family on DT

(but no basketball)

 

/ou_sas'd

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Jax Raging Bile Duct What about to ElMexi, TC & EST?

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @cleandoe I take full credit for the "ho hum" comment. 

 

Thank you very much.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @cleandoe That would be incredible if that was his sister haha

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