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Tuesday Bolts – 10.23.12

by Royce Young on October 23, 2012 at 8:54 am 334 Comments

The annual NBA GM poll came out yesterday. A few notes: The Thunder gathered only 6.7 percent of the vote that they’d win the NBA title, 36.7 percent have OKC in the Finals, 30 percent have KD winning the MVP, 13.3 percent say Serge Ibaka is the best defender in the NBA, 30 percent say OKC is the most fun team to watch, 46.7 percent want KD taking the final shot in a game and 70 percent say OKC has the best homecourt advantage.

Matt Moore of CBSSports.com: “But the cap is here; it’s push-come-to-shove time. The Thunder were a fun team but not a playoff team. Then a playoff team but not a team that could win in the playoffs. Then a team that could win in the playoffs but not one that could make the Finals. They made the Finals, couldn’t win the title. Now they either win the title or they regress. But they have so much going for them. Durant’s superb standard, Westbrook’s incredible production, Harden’s prolific support, Serge Ibaka’s versatility, Kendrick Perkins‘… Perkinsness? Scott Brooks has improved each season along with the team, and they have great depth that only got better in the offseason with the return of Eric Maynor. There’s no reason to think this team won’t be back in the Finals … except for maybe the Lakers. And that’s going to be something we’ll be talking about the whole year through. But this division? It’s already wrapped up.”

Lesley McCaslin is the Thunder’s new sideline reporter. She comes from Dallas where she covered the Mavs, Rangers and the Big 12 for Fox Sports Southwest.

Talking Northwest Division.

The NBA will be enforcing the “Reggie Miller rule” this season. Kelly Dwyer of BDL: “We appreciate the NBA’s move on these matters, and even if Reggie Miller did retire in 2005 this is still an issue (with defenders getting quicker and longer, and an increased offensive emphasis on the sideline 3-pointer) worth discussing. The problem behind missed calls like these, though, can’t be solved by shoving a ref’s nose in it and demanding he pay closer attention. The NBA, its referees, its players and especially its fans are going to have to find a way to ably call this game while understanding the inherent limitations of trying to govern something that keeps evolving and attempting to shape something so fluid.”

The next installment of Nick Collison’s post-apocalyptic diary: “I jolt awake and I am sweating like Ostertag. It pours from me as Russ poured in points on Raymond Felton. I am in a cave and the fire is going and the walls are screaming at me. The only thing louder in my mind and memory is Loud City. I think I am in Nebraska, but I cannot be sure. I sit up and wrap the blue tarp around me in hopes that I can get warm. I know that I cannot. I am not Vinnie Johnson. I think on the season and what it might have been. I was planning on telling Mike Tirico that no one actually calls it Oak City. It is Oklahoma City or it is OKC. There is nothing else. Alas, he is gone and unable to hear my plea. So is Hubie. For this I truly ache.”

More flops.

Scott Brooks says no KD or Westbrook tonight: “Give some looks to other guys,” Brooks said of his latest starting combo. “It had nothing to do with injuries. I wanted to see guys play extended minutes and (this was) the only way to do that, because we have so many guys at the wing spot.”

Congrats to the Thunder on being the Make-A-Wish celebrity of the year.

You can thank KD and LaMarcus Aldridge for a new goaltending rule.

Chelsea of The Lost Ogle met her love: “It happened on an elevator. I tossed out a casual “hey.” He returned with an amused “hey.” In attempt to keep the conversation going, I asked him how he liked playing at the Spirit Center. Okay, not one of my better pick-up lines. Obviously if I had time to prepare, I would have asked him what his favorite book is, or found out the greatest concert he’s ever been to, or asked if he’d ever read the Kama Sutra. But, the fact is I was caught off-guard and was wearing scrubby yoga pants and black framed faux-hipster glasses (note: I wear faux-hipster prescription glasses, not hipster faux-prescription glasses–as if one were better than the other). After countless tweets and hours spent Photoshopping Nick into pictures with me, all I got in return was a paltry “it was ‘aight.” Nick Collison then stepped off the elevator and disappeared into the third floor of the historic Mayo Hotel. Rejection is a dish served…unaccompanied.”

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cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/thunder-vs-bulls-open-thread/

Move it guys.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

The bottom six in TS% for the Thunder so far this preseason are all players already on the team (rounded to three decimals). Just sharing for fun, sample size is important to keep in mind.  (FGAs in parentheses).

Maynor:   0.483 (28)

Jackson:  0.467 (31)

Harden:   0.462 (24)

Cook:   0.442 (26)

Hayward:  0.375 (16)

Perkins:   0.333 (6)

 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @jooseppi I count 3 expecteds, 2 not surprised, and 1 huh?!

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas For me, I kind of forgot Perkins manged to get six attempts last game in 18 minutes...

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ou_sas  @jooseppi

So Hayward is your huh?!

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @jooseppi You caught me!

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Seeing that there are a few NBA 2K Fans on this board Here's something you should know. NBA 2k13 has a greatest Games feature where you get to try and recreate certain players greatest games. Some of the players include Jordan, Kobe, Iverson, Shaq, Dirk. and by far the Hardest to Achieve is Dirks Playoff game v the thunder.

 

That's right dirks ridiculous playoff performance from two years ago is almost impossible in a video game where you can get to 81 points with only 4 3pt makes

OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop 5pts

 @jdstorm thats awesome, but its too bad that it's a mobile exclusive though, unless i missed something in the menus. if it's there i want to do the lebron 30-something straight points against the pistons back in 07

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

 @OohWeeItsVelvetHoop I'm doing a lot of mobile gaming now i have a long commute to college.

 

Lebron isn't an option yet. Jordan, Shaq, Dirk, AI and Kobe are the only currently availiable guys, though they are adding more. its well worth the 7-10 bucks though, especially if you have an iphone/ipod/ipad, because with the right cords you can hook it up to a tv wirelessly

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @jdstorm Oh the horror, I can still see serge biting on every pump fake

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoy Jones III 80% from the floor arghhhh who does that

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III Forget Video Game mode. When you're shooting that well you're in Schwarzenegger or Stallone mode. Dirk Probably told Clay Bennet to let off some steam at some point

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

BS report with Scalabrine http://es.pn/WGZeI2

 

This is what I was talking about Duhsweetness 

Thunder S
Thunder S 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III any thunder discussion?

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

The health of the Lakers will obviously affect their playoff seed and playoff performance. I now think  I didn't consider that enough in previous consideration of their chances. Howard looked funny to me the other night with regard to his back and the way he moved. Either he has been instructed well on how they want him to move or he is limited, not able to move fully naturally.  I think he will miss time, maybe a lot. Nash and Kobe may miss significant time too.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Crow expecting a team with players who have never missed a combined 16 games each in the last 3 years is not smart..their tough as nails and rarely miss games.. thats like me expecting westbrook to suffer a major injury soon since most explosive highfliers do.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @kennygee90 I think their current age and status alters the equation some.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Crow true, but alot of people are talking like its a given that they'll get injured and its not

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @Crow What do you think of Gasoll?  Took a pretty steep drop in efficiency last season and his last two playoffs have been bad by his standards.  Doesn't seem like his skill set should be prone to such steep decline...

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @justin_mia His RAPM is still good. It could go either way.  I blamed at least half of his troubles on Kobe and Mike Brown but that still leaves some for him.

rednuht
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 @justin_mia  @Crow Mike Brown tried to get Gasol some minutes and opportunities without Bynum and Bryant on the floor in last years playoff series but wasn't able to get the desired results.

 

If the Lakers are going to run the Princeton offense, even 50% of the time, Gasol will see the ball much more because he is their best high post player.

 

Howard is the player who should play off Gasol and focus on defense for the betterment of the team. The Lakers are dangerous when Gasol is part of the offense and very beatable when he is not.

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

 @justin_mia  @Crow While i like the Lakers roster, it will be interesting to see how Pau and Dwight function together, and if Dwight even play's 4th quarters. 3 q's of Dwight then a front line of Gasol + Hill to close the game once the Lakers are in the bonus doesn't seem that impressive

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia  @jdstorm  @Crow there goes the dumb comment..took you long enough

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia  @jdstorm  @Crow oh never mind, i thought you was trying to be sarcastic about the lob being the one unstoppable move you fear

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia  @jdstorm  @Crow *a*

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia  @jdstorm  @Crow took you long enough to make dumb comment

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @jdstorm  @justin_mia  @Crow the lakers are doing almost exactly as rednuht said..the high and low post play between gasol and howard..gasol is one hell of a passer and usually finds howard on lobs...Kobe is the most scary player in this offense cause his off the ball movements usually leaves his defenders trailing him and he can shoot a shot or get a layup or dunk..he also never gets double teamed and the defense just can't concentrate on him which makes him virtually unguardable one on one..his shooting 50% in the preseason and i expect it to be in the high 40's this season

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

 @justin_mia  @Crow On Paper LA look amazing, but so did the 2004 lakers and they lost to Detroit despite having Kobe and Shaq in their primes

[censored]
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 @jdstorm  @Crow On paper Gasol / Dwight is kind of terrifying since Gasol is a good passer and can shoot.  Bynum was lazy and kind of lumbered around offensively a lot. Healthy Dwight wouldn't have that issue.  I'm guessing Pau is due for decline, though.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @justin_mia  @Crow Pau gasol is just lazy and not as aggressive as he used to be..his getting alot of touches though cause of the princeton offense so expect his production to stay the same..

ou_sas
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 @Crow Minute control will be crucial to get there. Which will probably affect their seeding quite significantly, especially if their bench loses them leads by getting outscored as dramatically as they did versus the Kings' bench. The Lakers are sitting pretty right now, but I'd put their chances as being closest to the edge as far as capacity for disaster to affect their aspirations.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

FANTASY DRAFT.

Thursday 25th October 2012. THIS THURSDAY! 7:00pm CT.

 

WEST-----------------------EAST

cleandoe (✓)--------------ou_sas (✓)

cemitten (✓)----------------BallSoHarden (✓) {Sorry AllDae}

f5alcon (✓) -----------------Patrick OKC (✓)

S4TISF4CTION (✓)--------bmuelle21 (✓)

EatSleepThunder (✓)-----BrockSuede

motacular (✓)--------------OBoy Jones III (✓)

bsooreal (✓)------------------Tricia_Status (✓)

Iceberg Slim----------------Snowflake (✓)

Watson-------------------------Tydude (✓)

ThunderBelize (✓)------------MrRaysian (✓) {Sorry ConcreteThunder} 

 

Please contact me or ou_sas  so we're not just guessing. 

Make sure you do especially if there is any trouble.

(✓) = Can attend. (x) = Can't attend. None = No contact 

 

Plus from now up to the draft I'd like you to be checking DT for updates daily. Maybe in the mornings so you don't have to wait for me to come on. Thanks :) 

 

IMPORTANT:

People who haven't replied (you've had way more than enough time) I'm going to assume that you can not make the draft and WILL NOT hesitate to kick you out of the league for those who can attend.

You'll only be left with bums anyway...

IF YOU REPLY THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT THERE IS A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE THAN YOU'LL BE SPARED. YOU'LL BE CUT OTHERWISE.

THIS IS CAN HAPPEN AT ANY STAGE FROM NOW ON!

 

Shortlist for new members:

-D-MC. (Please can I have your email? Send to cleandoeDT@gmail.com)

-Any others? You have to be able to make the draft though. 

 

Let's all meet up on here at like 6:50-7:00 so we can sort out any troubles.

THAT'S THIS THURSDAY IF YOU DIDN'T REALISE! 2 DAYS!

 

--

ya boy, cleandoe

Iceberg Slim
Iceberg Slim 5pts

 @cleandoe I'll be there. Gimme a check mark.

SilenceTheLambs
SilenceTheLambs 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe i finaly remembered my pw to this. anyways can i be back in this lol

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @AllDae What was your email?

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@cleandoe @AllDae whew...worked too damn hard for this spot

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHarden  @AllDae  @cleandoe 

Don't worry. BrockSuede got cut

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@AllDae @cleandoe Wait...

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe  @AllDae

 #toughlove

SilenceTheLambs
SilenceTheLambs 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cleandoe Yeh i can make it 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @AllDae 

Can you make the draft or not?

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @AllDae Sent :)

SilenceTheLambs
SilenceTheLambs 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe dewan527@yahoo.com

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

  There's a nice fantasy draft cheat sheet on ESPNs fantasy basketball page, I thought about posting it here, but that's too nice, if anyone wants it go get it.

 

--

ya boy, oboy 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cleandoe Oh, a new fantasy league? I want in....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wait....

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

Looking over teams in the east. I think i might have Philly as my favorite to win the East and possibly the title. Am i nuts? Or are Philly going to be seriously good?

 

They have Bynum aka the best offensive 7fter in the NBA - Dirk. A solid defensive PG who can hit 3's and run a team Holiday. A High pedigree Wing Creator/scorer Evan Turner, and lots of Athleetes/ shooters

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @jdstorm your overrating bynum..he isn't as good as people think and he's definitely not ready to take a team to a top seed yet...

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @kennygee90  @jdstorm Liked for the irony of a laker fan posting about Bynum's worth after he's gone.

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

 @kennygee90  @ou_sas Bynum and Howard definitely effect games differently. But Bynum isn't a liability in the 4th quarter, and occasionally gets Hot from the free throw line AKA Lakers -Thunder last year

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @jdstorm true, I also hyped him up a couple times thinking he was as good as howard..but i know realize there's a big gap between the two..not just stats but how they affect the game in a whole

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90  @jdstorm True, but it seemed like other Lakers fans were building him up while he was there. So it's not really you individually that makes it ironic, but you as the concept of Laker fan.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @ou_sas  @jdstorm I thought he was a really good player but not a superstar.his a one time all star..so his got a long way to get there

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @jdstorm I think you are getting way ahead of yourself. Bynum has yet to play and still has significant injury concerns. Jrue is much more average than you are implying. He CAN hit 3s and CAN run an offense, but the Philly offense was very mediocre last year and Jrue doesn't do anything at an elite level. Turner has consistently been terrible, so the pedigree means nothing. They also have no real defenders outside Bynum/Holiday anymore.

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts

 @Keith00 Defense is Effort + Coaching and Doug Collins is quite good so I'm not worried, Turner and Holiday are entering their 4th/3rd years respectively and with turner now getting consistent minutes he should Make a leap.

 

I don't think the Sixers will get the one seed, but i cant see any of the other east contenders Miami, Boston, indy, Chicago(if they even count) beating Philly in a playoff series. Hibbert killed miami last year and Bynum is MUUUUUUUUCH better.

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