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Under the radar and dreaming

by Royce Young on October 9, 2012 at 3:58 pm 235 Comments

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Whether it was on the flight home, or when they ran out of the tunnel and saw a rabid sea of 18,203 clothed in blue, something clicked.

The Thunder were facing the mighty Spurs, the unbeatable monster that hadn’t lost in some 60 days. Down two games to none, everybody — I mean everybody — was writing them off. But with kind of a wounded animal mentality, the Thunder embraced being the underdog, embraced the “Nobody Believes In Us” mindset, embraced it being us versus the world and took four straight from San Antonio.

Then in the Finals, it flipped. The Thunder entered it being the favorites and after taking Game 1, the whole thing turned. People had given up on the Heat and the Thunder were the ones that had all the backing. No more talk about Oklahoma City being too young, no more talk about having to wait their turn, no more talk about shocking the world. No more hunting. They were the hunted.

Now, the Thunder didn’t fall to the Heat because of some silly mental weakness where they couldn’t handle a little media and fan love. They lost because the Heat played four games better than they did. But it did seem pretty clear that the Thunder had become extremely comfortable in the “Nobody Believes In Us” position. Almost relishing it seems.

For example, take this summer where the Lakers made all the headlines with their offseason moves. Kevin Durant told Yahoo! Sports openly that he thought the Lakers were the best team on paper and really pumped on the underdog theme.

“People outside, fans, media, of course they are going to say [the Lakers are the favorites] because on paper they have the best lineup in the league. But you still got to play the games. We respect everybody. We are going to go through the league respecting everybody as well. We already view ourselves as an elite team, but we have to prove it again. Last year is over with.”

Kendrick Perkins said this a few weeks ago: “I’m glad the attention is off us, because we the type that like to put our hardhats on and do stuff and keep it under the radar and at the end of the day you look at the box score and Oklahoma has won. So that’s the way we like to keep it.”

The Thunder seem to draw motivation from being slighted. Durant does. Russell Westbrook absolutely does. Whatever it is and wherever you get it from, if it helps, then it’s good. The Thunder prefer being under the radar, even if it’s mostly unrealistic this season. Whether they like it or not, they’re one of the few legit favorites this season.

Still, the Lakers stole the Thunder’s thunder a bit with their blockbuster summer. The spotlight has shifted to L.A. where most of the national media has flocked during their training camp. Few are talking about how the Thunder are going to bounce back from the Finals, how they’ve improved, how they’re more dangerous. When the Thunder get mentioned right now it’s either about how they match up with the Lakers or about James Harden’s contract extension. They’re as anonymous as a contending team with two superstars can be.

Which is how they seem to like it.

Now, it’s pretty absurd to act like the Thunder are some sleeper in the West here. Not everyone is so completely Lakerstruck to crown them. For instance, Magic Johnson, via NewsOK:

“I would say that the Lakers have to beat the Thunder. The Thunder has something over the Lakers that the Lakers don’t have right now and that’s being a team. They’ve done it before. And the Lakers, as they are assembled, have not played with each other. And that’s going to be the goal of the Lakers. Can they become a team? When the chips are down, one thing that’s great about the Thunder is they know where they’re going for a shot. ‘I’m going to look for Kevin (Durant) first.’ Then Russell (Westbrook) and James (Harden) decides who has it going and then they’ll look for their shot. I’m talking about in the last two minutes. Two minutes and down, when the game is in the balance. They have a sense of knowing each other.”

The Thunder still have their doubters though. They’re a contender built in a petri dish, a small market powerhouse carefully crafted with it all improbably perfectly going according to plan. A step to the postseason, a step to the conference finals and a step to the NBA Finals. Natural progression says a step to a title, but that just seems too scripted.

Are they really an underdog? Well, John Hollinger of ESPN.com doesn’t have them in his top two of the West. Bovada’s NBA title odds have the Thunder third (9/2) behind the Heat (11/5) and the Lakers (5/2). There’s a difference in being picked in the top four and being a sleeper, but the fact is, nobody is shoeing the Thunder in for anything this season. Which means they can play on their favorite motivational tactic.

Again, reality is that the Thunder are one of the league’s three title favorites. While the Lakers might have more buzz and attention, nobody is completely writing off OKC. But you can be sure that’s not what the team is telling themselves.  They’re going to play up the idea of nobody believing in them, they’re going to try and feed off of it. Everybody is looking for that added edge. The Thunder found it in the Spurs series and now they’re looking for it again.

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courtsense
courtsense 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

You know your team isn't ready for primetime when they're only comfortable being the underdog. It's the difference between hoping to win and expecting to win. That tells you everything you need to know about why they lost the Finals.

ThunderTheFUp
ThunderTheFUp 5pts

@courtsense Where did you read they are ONLY comfortable being the underdog? I read they relished in it, they like being the under dog. I really dont see a difference between hoping and expecting to win if you dont win. Its a mute point in the end. Its just a mentality they prefer. I'd much rather a team have that mentality than one of overzealous uber cocky one like oh idk LA and Mia

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

You ever listen to Bill Simmons' B.S. Report when he's talking to Cousin Sal and just talking fantasy football? It's really depressing. Feels like you're listening to two middle aged guys who still live in their mothers' basements and haven't spoken to a girl for like 3 or 4 years outside of the chick whose cubicle is next to theirs at work. 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Old Man Game Wait a minute.... talking to the chick in the next cubicle over doesn't count?

 

<.<

 

>.>

 

I may need to get out a bit more.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game yeah i don't like the football ones too much. The basketball ones and times when he has good guests are good though. 

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @OBoymuzik I'm listening because I'm trying to do some work right now and it's easy not to get distracted by. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game my car stereos been out for 2 weeks so i'm listening to all the podcasts i can 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Old Man Game LOL

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/nba-2k13-leaks-the-thunders-new-alternate-jersey/#more-22256

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

This is Kevin Durant's favorite song..wow! he listens to ignorant assss gangbangers too lol..Lil Reese and Chief Keef take me back to the life I used to live, thank God for college...Didn't know Durant was about that though...This is my teams anthem tho..Durant got good taste in music...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdV0mmHrfBM

 

 

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

@kennygee90 *facepalm* That song is hot doodoo

Fezzy
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That awkward moment when you realize that Byron is one of the best Bobcats

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Naz buckets!

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts

Sooo, what was Kirk playing like in Atlanta? That last stretch the Bulls had was good.

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @novelisticbee0 Serviceable back-up PG who still played decent defense and didn't turn the ball over. Got hot from range a few times here and there but wasn't an offensive threat by any means. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @novelisticbee0 hurt

OBoy
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i lost my ability to separate the real from the fake X icons on these streaming sites.

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

 @OBoymuzik what game are you watching

 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @cemitten chicago-memphis

OBoy
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 @senseandsenescence  @cemitten thanks guys! 

senseandsenescence
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 @cemitten It's pretty impossible, but with adblock you get that vulgar kid sometimes.

long arm of the law
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 I had forgotten what a hassle first row was without adblock.

senseandsenescence
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 @OBoymuzik  @cemitten both

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus/

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom

long arm of the law
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 @OBoymuzik I have it on chrome but i would expect firefox has it too.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cemitten is that an extension for chrome or firefox?

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoymuzik adblock really helps on those sites

Sustainable Parameters
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Nov 21, Thunder vs Los Angeles Clippers. DailyThunder will be in the building. I got us the Summit suite, just for us only. I also got contact with someone, a special guest I will call him, today and he is going to be there. So why am I telling you? I still have some seats left (out of 30). It will be $70 which coversyour game ticket, free drinks, free meal, and we will walk on the court for an on court photo post game which someone (probably me) will spam in every DT comment thread. Call/txt me at 580,647,34one7 or facebook at dennis.berry12 to get down. All of you OKC DT'ers I haven't collected payment from, I'll be in OKC on the 16th so that's a good day. I'll be calling yall

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

Anthony Davis and Robin Lopez can turn into a good front court.  Will be fun to watch.  I don't hate Austin Rivers as much as most people on DT. If they could ever get Eric Gordon in there in place of Vazquez they'd have a really cool starting lineup.  Rivers, Gordon, Aminu, Davis, Lopez.  I'd consider getting league pass to watch the hornets honestly.

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Jordan Hill playing season opener.  It's almost like they didn't bring a guy in this summer who had dealt with the exact same issue and ended up with a fairly serious issue.

supreme35
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http://instagram.com/p/QlP0cKTSmf/

 

Lol Reggie lookin tough

OBoy
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 @supreme35 hey lazar can i get a copy of your notes from class

supreme35
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 @OBoymuzik He looks like he just had a long night of studying lol

Old Man Game
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 @supreme35 Damn is Thabeet ever huge. Makes Cole look small by comparison. 

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Jooseppi
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 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Old Man Game  @supreme35 Yup.

Jooseppi
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 @Old Man Game  @supreme35 I'd hope so. One of the tallest ,players in NBA history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_players_in_National_Basketball_Association_history

And in unrelated Manute Bol news: http://deadspin.com/5950225/manute-bols-son-is-65-and-in-seventh-grade

beelieve035
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 @supreme35 Cole looks awkward.

 

Thabeet looks chill. Not too surprised though.

Jooseppi
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 @supreme35 One of these things is not like the others.

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Jooseppi  Because everyone other than Thabeet is a basketball player? 

Jooseppi
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One of them is wearing a hat, guys.

OBoy
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 @DennisBerry  @duhsweetness lets save this argument for tomorrow after the first preseason game. 

Sustainable Parameters
Sustainable Parameters 5pts

 @duhsweetness Yea if you think Cole Aldrich is a basketball player. Doesn't get more comical than that. He should be modeling big and tall suit stores

duhsweetness
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 @DennisBerry  My jokes are better than yours. Kill THAT nonsense. 

Sustainable Parameters
Sustainable Parameters 5pts

 @duhsweetness  @Jooseppi Thabeet is better than Cole. Kill that nonsense

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts

Nate Robinson looks abnormally short out there.

Fezzy
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Less than 24 hours til preseason

TrippingBilly
TrippingBilly 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel Time of the Season

long arm of the law
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Holy crap...

http://i.imgur.com/4BNIB.jpg

senseandsenescence
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Dear @cemitten ,

 

I think my version of livefyre is broken(http://i.imgur.com/5c0Rd.png).  Could you please help me get my missing internet points?  Do I need to like thousands of comments to get special multipliers or is it okay to just smack the machine a few times?  

 

Sincerely,

 

a disappointed livefyrer

long arm of the law
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 @senseandsenescence Mine almost always shows up like yours. I wish it always showed the way it does in that picture i posted.

Jooseppi
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 @senseandsenescence  @cemitten I wonder if this is more important than the button suggestions we offered Livefyre.

Still waiting for my "recognition of occurrence" and "I agree, but I don't want to give the impression I like this" buttons/ 

senseandsenescence
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 @cemitten I know.  It happens to me sometimes too.  It would be nice if you could just see everyone that liked it though, even if it was a pop-up.

Fezzy
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 @cemitten You could've cut the bottom part of that where I only got two likes....

long arm of the law
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 @FreeFezzyFel it was necessary.

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