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Wednesday Bolts – 10.3.12

by Royce Young on October 3, 2012 at 10:14 am 83 Comments

HoopSpeak on the best pindown players: “Durant is a tough cover in any situation, but it’s coming off screens where he is a real handful. Because the super-skilled, 6’11” superstar has such a sweet stroke, it’s easy to forget that his jumper isn’t the only thing defenses have to worry about. Durant also has the jaw-dropping ability to catch coming off a screen from nearly anywhere inside the the 3-point line and finish at the rim with one or no dribbles. That incredible combination of length, coordination and athleticism leaves defenders scratching their heads.”

Sean Deveney of Sporting News comparing KD to George Gervin: “That mindset has shown itself on the court. Last year was Durant’s fifth in the NBA, and though he won another scoring title, what was most impressive about him was that he found other ways to contribute. He averaged 8.0 rebounds, a career high and the most of any small forward. He averaged a career-best 3.5 assists, ranking fourth for his position. He continues to get better as a defender, learning to use his long arms and quickness to his benefit. That is ultimately what could separate Durant from Gervin. While Gervin is a 12-time All-Star and Hall of Famer, his teams rarely got anywhere in the postseason. The Spurs reached the conference finals three times with Gervin, but never got any further.”

Darnell Mayberry with an unfortunate post about Royce White and the Thunder: “Thunder fans, or at least those who chomped at the bit for White, should let this be a lesson. In Thunderland, for as long as Sam Presti is running the show, character wins out every time over talent. Love it or hate it that’s the way it is. But it sure beats the alternative, which the Rockets find themselves stuck with now — having no idea whether one of their three prized first-round picks will show up to their preseason opener against the Thunder in eight days.”

Evan Dunlap of SB Nation on Royce White: “Even as someone who shares White’s affliction, I cannot imagine dealing with the pressure White does every day. As a professional athlete, he’s in the public eye year round, and with any luck at the NBA level, he’ll remain in the public eye for a decade or more. Therefore, his struggles will also be public. The scrutiny he will face — and already faces, in articles like Mayberry’s — must be terrifying.”

Eric Freeman of BDL: “However, the maturity and professional seriousness we associate with NBA success has very little to do with anxiety. For most of my life, I’ve dealt with occasionally crippling anxiety episodes that manifest themselves both physically and mentally. While I don’t suffer from quickly manifesting panic attacks, as White does, my experience has always been that anxiety can get out of control with little warning — that a small feeling of uneasiness can compound itself and eventually turn into a debilitating situation filled with nausea, a lack of self-confidence, and the general sense that focusing on fixing anxiety only makes things worse.”

A little Thunder preview from The Pro Basketball Talk.

SI.com on must-see preseason games: “No one was more disappointed to see Andre Iguodala traded to the Nuggets than Kevin Durant, who now has to face Iguodala on a regular basis as a division rival. With his length and quickness, the new Nugget is an ideal defensive matchup for Durant. We’ll get a glimpse of what’s soon to be the most interesting rivalry in the Northwest when the teams face off on Oct. 21.”

So maybe Russell Westbrook hasn’t signed with Adidas.

Eddie Maisonet of SB Nation on OKC’s offseason: “A great American hero named Benjamin Franklin once said that, “An investment in knowledge pays the best interest.” It seems like year over year, Presti’s been living handsomely on his dividends, as the Thunder continue to rise to elite status in the Association. Will Presti be able to cash in on the Thunder’s latest investments? Only time will tell, but if they do, then the Thunder will be able to swim in their money bin like Scrooge McDuck did, hopefully all the way to an NBA title.”

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Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/league-announces-new-flopping-rules/#more-22192

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/10/league-announces-new-flopping-rules/

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe BOOOOOOOOOOo beat me to it >.>

ATH
ATH 5pts

Basketball Twitter at its worst right now. Yeah, penalizing flopping creates some double-standards, and basketball refs aren't perfect, and the industry usually rewards deception. But jeez the snark is so, so predictable. 

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I haven't been on much, but i am going to Dennis's DT Thunder Game on the 21 of next month. Hope to see many of you there!!

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

If the thunder sign Harden does that mean they'll amnesty perkins next summer?..Im tired of seeing his hard and sometimes illegal screens, it would be great to see him leave and not see this video..

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR9NF5xK3ko

 

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts

 @kennygee90 jesus man, EVERY person screens like that. nit picker man.  Bynum did that crap all the time, so does artest so. booo hooo 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Legendary_Dork bynum rarely screens like that...I wish he would, cause Kobe would've gotten alot of good looks..its not a knock on perkins, he learnt it from Garnett...I hope howard sets the same screens

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Legendary_Dork  @kennygee90 Of course he'd complain about a screener who tends to knock people on their asses (slightly illegally at times). We would in his position.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @kennygee90 That is what a lot of us think will happen. Harden is better than perkins, and keeping perkins and letting harden go just so he can "defend" howard and bynum is dumb.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 

These bars aren't coming off until I see 'All Doe'

 

Or an apology.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Patience!

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Fantasy Draft. 

Thursday 25th October 2012.

7:00pm CT.

Be there or be laughed at. Yeah. We be like that. 

WEST-----------------------EAST

cleandoe (✓)-------------ou_sas (✓)

cemitten--------------------AllDae

f5alcon (✓) -------------------Patrick OKC

S4TISF4CTION------------bmuelle21

EatSleepThunder----------BrockSuede

motacular------------------OBoymuzik

bsooreal (✓)-----------Tricia_Status

Iceberg Slim----------------Snowflake (✓)

Watson-----------------------Tydude

ThunderBelize (✓)--------ConcreteThunder

 

Please contact me so I'm not just guessing. 

Make sure you do especially if there is any trouble.

(✓) = Can attend. (x) = Can't attend. None = No contact

Plus the 2 weeks up to the draft I'd like you to be checking DT for updates daily. Maybe in the mornings so you don't have to wait or me to come on. Thanks :)

 

--

ya boy, cleandoe

 

#repostingthiseverydayisgoingtobeboring

 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cleandoe Nice check marks!

 

Got the okay from the wife. She's all cool with it, though it is the last night before her work week, so she grumbled a bit about that.

 

Now if ESPN will just hurry up with its fantasy BB app...

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

#NBA announces new flopping policy: warning on first offense, then fines of $5K, $10K, $15K and $30K for offenses 2-5.

 

 

GEEZUS

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @Lost Ones Harden needs that max contract, pronto.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Lost Ones what I thought would happen.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones

Is this per game? 

 

some people flop more than 5 times a game.  I'm looking at you : Manu, anderson V, Cp3, & Tony Parker

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Lost Ones as long as it's publicly announced i'm cool.

Aren't
Aren't 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

"Despite James Harden going missing during the playoffs..." 

 

?

 

Maybe in the Finals but without him we don't even get there.

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Arent  Of course not but the Finals was the biggest stage. I would trade in his Game 4 performance @Dallas, and Game 4 @L.A. if it meant he would have at least showed up once during the Finals. Noticed i didn't say his game winner in Game 5 @ S.A. thats because it gave us the lead in the series. 

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cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @ElMexiThunder  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Arent 

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAD!

Hold on, I need to pop out a sec...

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ElMexiThunder  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Arent 

Good to hear from you and glad you're doing well!  (Btw, today is Dad's birthday.)

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Arent  Oh and dating. I can't forget that!

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Arent  I pretty much work, and go to school everyday. Only day i have off from both are Mondays. My phone was turned off for a month thats why i haven't been answering, i just now turned it back on. I'm doing good though, How are things going? 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

My projected minutes and rotations look something lilke this:

 

Russ 38/ Maynor 10

Thabo 15/ Harden 30/ Russ 3

KD    35/  Thabo 6/ PJ3 7

Serge 26/ Nick 15/ KD 7

Perk   28/ Nick 10/ Serge 10

 

How does this look?  Where should we see improvements?

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Bsooreal 

 

Westbrook 33 / Maynor 15

Thabo 12 / Harden 33 / Westbrook 3

Durant 30 / Thabo 8 / Cook or Jones 7

Ibaka 20 / Collison 20 / Durant 8

Perkins 26 / Ibaka 12 / Aldrich 10

 

Could get small lineups 8 minutes a game with Durant at PF.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 I think we can all agree :

 

Russ plays some time at the two this year (even if very little)

 

Kd should get  7-10 mins at PF

 

Jones should get some PT

 

And Serge Should play   10-15 mins at Center.

 

Honestly ,that was the main thing i wanted to hear(read) from you guys.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @Bsooreal Cook or Jones should be 10.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia

 the struggle will be more  of him trying to figure out what type of player he needs to be rather than  spacing, defense, rbs. 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  If brooks plays him at all.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

I guess i should clarify. This is only an 9-man rotation (playoff rotation).  If we go deeper of course mins get pulled back but i honestly dont think Brooks goes deeper than 9 maybe ten. Cook, reggie, cole  shouldnt play then.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

There's no reason to be playing people 40 minutes a game in the regular season. 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @Jooseppi

 agree'd

D@nny
D@nny 5pts

 @Bsooreal Maynor needs more than 10, for starters...Russ playing 41/game?

 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @D@nny

 Superstar mins.  Brooks could back off on that a little .  I  gave KD 42 mins per game

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Bsooreal  @D@nny  They really should be averaging about 36-38 a night total. You're probably right about Russ playing off ball at the 2 for a couple of minutes per night. And KD will play the 4 some. James/Cook might take some of the backup minutes at the 3 instead of PJ though.

D@nny
D@nny 5pts

KD is like George Gervin? Why am I just now hearing of this...!!!!?

 

This made way more sense in 2009 when KD had not shown much competitive leadership or all-around bad**situde. Nowadays, that comparrison just makes angry--Gervin had one elite skill, and KD's better at that skill and does way more.

 

I grant that the article kind of makes that same point, but still: why even bring it up?

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @D@nny It's debatable whether Durant's a better scorer than Gervin right now.  Gervin had some very high scoring, efficient seasons.  And playoffs.

D@nny
D@nny 5pts

 @justin_mia  With KD's work ethic: I bet he has a really solid post game (and face up game) within the next few seasons. If he can start making the easy pass: look out.

 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @D@nny It was said back in 2009, all the time. I don't know why it was brought back up again recently, but people have been comparing their games almost since Durant got drafted.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @D@nny you think durant attacks the basket better than gervin? you'd be the first person for me to ever hear that from.. Durant is a better shooter but watching games on NBATV and highlights of Gervin, thats one edge he has on durant, posting up is another...Those are the 2 things only right now though..

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @kennygee90  @D@nny  @nny Durant has more advanced dribbling moves, which helps him.  Also his size.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @justin_mia  @D@nny  @nny true

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/2012-13-york-knicks-oldest-team-nba-history-201028098--nba.html

Bet Nazr wishes he could have taken the twins and been a part of that. 

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

It would be nice if Darnell would come out and admit he was wrong.  Just more garbage Oklahoma journalism.  Sports media in this state is sorely lacking talent, ingenuity, brains and sense.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cemitten He should have waited for the facts, but if royce white does have anxiety to the point where he can't play it sucks for houston.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @f5alcon  @cemitten he had the facts and chose not to use them. 

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

 @f5alcon It was a gamble Houston was willing to take.  They had plenty of PF's and were in the position to take a flyer.  

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Given Durant's improving Rebounding, does anyone else think that Durant could average a Double-double on the season (Pts-Rebounds) in the next few years?

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @ou_sas If he moves to PF, yes.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @justin_mia Do you think that averaging a double double would be enough to get him the MVP nod? Or would a 33-35 ppg average be more what is required?

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @justin_mia

 His best change for MVP would be this year. A year after Lebron  won it. People have a tough time voting for the same guy the year after he's won the award.

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  both would be needed probably...

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @justin_mia

 I think againt Bron-Bron he'd have to average  28.5- 10 - 3.5. 

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @ou_sas Last season and 2009-10 were MVP caliber seasons he just got unlucky since LeBron is around.  Another interesting parallel to Gervin BTW since Gervin lost MVP twice in a row once to Walton another to Moses Malone.  Tough for scorers to win over guys who do much more than score.  A 30-10 type of season or an abnormally high scoring season for him would clinch it, though.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia  @ou_sas

 i think we begin to see that more this year.  Is 20 mins per game too much to ask?

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @ou_sas  @justin_mia

 One can only hope.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Bsooreal  @justin_mia I'd say we'd be more likely to see ~10-12 at the PF Position. 20 mpg at PF is over half of his minutes... I'm not sure we're going to see him play quite that much yet.

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