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Friday Bolts – 11.2.12

by Royce Young on November 2, 2012 at 10:12 am 502 Comments

Andrew McNeill of 48 Minutes of Hell: “On one possession in the first half, Leonard was standing in the lane and defending a Thunder player in the opposite corner. When one of the other Oklahoma City players penetrated and kicked, Leonard was able to deflect the pass to his man out of bounds without having to close out on the shooter. Teams will eventually adjust to this and that’s fine. It will simply make it a little tougher for them to play effective offense without Leonard getting his hands on passes and dribbles. I asked Danny Green after the game if he felt any more prepared to defend against Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant than he did a few months ago, but he said he didn’t. Green cited a better comfort level among the team with its defensive communication and team knowledge in holding Oklahoma City to under 38% shooting on the night. An assessment with which Pop agrees.”

Dave of BlazersEdge previewing tonight: “The bigger worry for Portland is Russell Westbrook. This has a historical basis as well, as Westbrook likes to eat the Blazers, particularly on the offensive glass. But he’s also staring across the court at Damian Lillard having heard about Lillard’s well-heralded performance against the Lakers but also knowing Lillard’s defense is at best untested, at worst unreliable. Smart money says Westbrook will look at the rookie and think, “Fresh Meat”. The guy took 21 shots against the Spurs, hitting only 6. He’ll take that many again. Can Lillard and company keep his percentage as low? It doesn’t help that Westbrook blew OKC’s final possession of the then-tied game last night, leaving the door open for Tony Parker to win it. A fella’s got to take it out on someone.”

The Rockets plagiarized OKC.

Ethan Sherwood Strauss of HoopSpeak: “So when I look back at this Thunder era, this incubator, this college, this farm, I question: Was this just all about developing talent? As I watched OKC battle the San Antonio team they’re modeled after, I wondered if the two operations really had all that much in common. The Spurs are about complementary pieces unleashing a holy hell of smart basketball upon opposing teams. The Thunder about about ill-fitting pieces, growing into that which still crushes your complementary pieces by blunt force.”

KD talking abou the Harden trade.

Andrew Sharp of SB Nation: “What gets lost when you cite the “business” angle is that A) it wasn’t necessarily a GOOD business decision, or B) that OKC management should be let off the hook for giving up a once-in-a-generation foundation because they didn’t want to jeopardize profits. It’s not like the team would’ve been hemorrhaging money even if they paid Harden, and if things ever got truly desperate, they always could’ve amnestied Perk. Worst case scenario, the Thunder would’ve been less profitable, forcing OKC owners to find a creative way to break even, all while the value of their franchise appreciates by hundreds of millions of dollars over the next 10-20 years. This trade will be infuriating forever.”

Matt Moore of CBSSports.com gave Westbrook an F for last night: “So much fail. Shot terribly. Forced it. Poor defense. And got lost on the final possession to give up the gamewinner. It was a prett rough night for the new most polarizing player in the game.”

A lot of talk breaking down Kevin Martin’s game.

From Elias: The Spurs edged the Thunder on Thursday night, 86-84. No team in the previous two regular seasons or playoffs defeated Oklahoma City with such a low point total. The last to do so had been the Grizzlies, in an 86-84 triumph at Memphis on January 22, 2010.

According to ESPN Stats and Info last night’s loss was OKC’s first ever buzzer-beater loss. And before you say it, Carmelo Anthony’s buzzer-beater from the corner beat OKC with 0.1 second left.

Westbrook on what happened on that final play: “I got lost. It’s my fault. I’ll take this one.”

Marc Stein of ESPN.com on Westbrook: “Not that he had much choice. The inevitable skewering of Westbrook, after a wild performance offensively that led up to the bad gaffe on D, had long since begun on the “Inside The NBA” set and all over the Twitterverse by the time OKC’s QB had emerged from the showers. Once the Thunder get some distance from the emotion of the ending, they’ll surely focus on the fact that they shot 37.7 percent from the floor less than a week removed from the shock of the Harden blockbuster. With Westbrook playing about as raggedly as he could, they still only just lost at the finish to a team (A) playing at home, (B) suddenly sporting a real continuity edge in this rivalry and (C) riding the timeless duo of Parker (14 points, 11 assists) and Tim Duncan (20 points, eight boards) and all the precise execution that flows from them.”

Darnell Mayberry: “If Kevin Durant catches that pass from Russell Westbrook, I’m almost positive the Thunder wins this game. That play, to me, was the most pivotal of the game. And it’s one of the small attention to detail type things the Thunder has to improve. Kawhi Leonard made a great hustle play fighting over the screen and staying stuck to Durant. It’s why the Spurs have so much trust in him as a young defender. Durant said after the game that he never had the ball and that Leonard just jumped the passing lane. The turnover was charged to Westbrook, but Durant has got to catch that ball. If he does, something good seemingly was going to come. At worst, the Thunder would have milked the clock and either gone to overtime or given the Spurs little time to get something good.”

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Sigmund
Sigmund 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/11/blazers-vs-thunder-pregame-primer-5/

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

Oh my McDyess please stay retired. 

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--antonio-mcdyess-considering-return-to-nba.html

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Maynor, Russ, KD, Ibaka, Perk(not preferably)

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Reggie, Kmart, Lamb, PJIII and Colli

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @OkcBaby

 Maynor needs to run the bench with Harden gone.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @anonymous12345 Reggie would then be able to get in the game 

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

 @anonymous12345 These are lineups I would go to when Russ is struggling to run the team

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

Is anyone else using NBA League Pass mobile? I'm having trouble with mine. The audio will play, but the video does not. (and no i'm not clicking "radio" or blacked-out games..)

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @TreyFiveOnMyBack This prolly doesnt help but I am using broadband and it works fine.  I know last night the thunder game was on TNT so NBA wont give you a video stream because it was a nationally broadcast game. 

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

 @CLthunderfan yeah, its not that. It doesn't give you the option to even play the blackout games. it just pulls it up like it's going to work, but only starts playing the audio. I got it to work once, but the next time it wouldn't...

 

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

nope

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

in the 4th quarter teams will front and play extreme ball denial on durant which will end up with him getting the ball at the 3 point line rather than on the baseline where he seems comfortable at nowadays..they'll take their chances with westbrook beating them...I think westbrook will have to show this year whether his a really good all star or a true superstar cause there's a difference between the two

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Couldn't of said it better!

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

Teams will force Westbrook to beat us in the 4th qtr.

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DooDooBrooks I would say Brooks should explore bringing in Maynor and sliding Westbrook to the 2, but then what do we do with the rest of the guys? Martin at the 3, KD the 4, and Ibaka at the 5 is extremely risky. 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell  @DooDooBrooks try it

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Good question, the truth is Brooks is now forced to figure it out because in the past our bench would take up the slack for the starting unit, now with Beard gone what worked before may not work simply because the new players we have totally different skills sets than our old closer. Time will tell. The talent is there!

Amuro
Amuro 5pts

 @DooDooBrooks Or we could just lose games and Brooks will continue what he's always done. If something doesn't work keep doing it and it still wont work.

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @DooDooBrooks I really worry that the days of Thunder U are over. Some will say I'm overreacting, but I think I'm being completely logical. The players have already seen an original member of the family get traded away in Harden, which now has a very realistic chance to even further expose Brooks' coaching flaws. I really, really hope Brooks is able to figure things out, not just for the sake of this season, but for the sake of the entire culture of this team. While I've never been a big fan of his coaching, I think losing Brooks in addition to Harden could greatly reduce the likelihood that KD reups once this contract is up. At that point it would no longer be a "family" to "sacrifice for", but simply another basketball team, run like a business, in a small market.

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell  @DooDooBrooks I think it depends on who we are playing each night

Crow
Crow 5pts

At "factor" level, the Thunder was pretty close to league average everywhere last night but elite on defensive rebounding and not fouling.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Crow rebounding and defense was some other level shit last night

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Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @DooDooBrooks  @Skyline welp

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I believe the Thabo era in the starting lineup is coming to an end.

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts

 @DooDooBrooks god, i hope...

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @DooDooBrooks  I hope the perkins era is coming to a end

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

That too.

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

 @Crow Its bout damn time for a change!

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DooDooBrooks What prompts that as "belief" and not just wish?

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

SUPER-OVERREACTIONIZER: The Thunder Are Doomed Because Russell Westbrook Is The Worst.

http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/11/02/super-overreactionizer-the-thunder-are-doomed-because-russell-westbrook-is-the-worst/

desatt
desatt 5pts

The Thunder didn't look prepared for the level of intensity the Spurs played with.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @desatt ...maybe true, but even with all that, they lost on a last second long 2 from Parker.   They'll be fine.

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

Honestly the Spurs were ripe for the picking and we easily could have won. Manu didn't play, and honeslty they want be as good as last year ebing a year older. Our worst enemy is ourselves. Trust me on this.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Westbrook averaged 27.5 points, 7.3 assists and 8.8 boards as the Thunder took three of four from the Trail Blazers last season.

criznazy53
criznazy53 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHarden who cares about past stats.  Westbrook needs to change his game now that harden is not there. He needs to sacrifice less scoring for more setting up people

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden he should sacrifice possessions to Serge, Kmart, KD, Collison. Not Perk and thabo

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell  @Lost Ones  @OBoy Jones III  @Bryson   @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden you think they'd run a two on two fastbreak drill with thabo handling at some point. guaranteed miss or worse, turnover. every. time. 

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones  @OBoy Jones III  @Bryson   @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden I scream very loudly every time Thabo handles the ball. Similar to the way I yell when Perkins is given the ball anywhere on the court except within 2 feet of the basket.

Bryson
Bryson 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoy Jones III  @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden That's fair. I agree.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoy Jones III  @Bryson   @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden thabo should never handle the ball its always bad

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Bryson   @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden thabo can stand on the wing and shoot. i hate when he dribbles or tries to pass. 

Bryson
Bryson 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @criznazy53  @BallSoHarden Nick shot horribly last night, while Thabo shot well. Switch those. 

EternalThunder
EternalThunder 5pts

 @BallSoHarden Only because of 'The Call'.

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts

i like lillard, but westbrook is going to dominate his matchup tonight

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @yarkmu Want him to run the team well and play defense as well. Without that, they are in for a battle.

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow portland certainly looked good against the lakers. at least, better than what the experts prognosticated. but i have a feeling okc is going to look better tonight. pop's teams are always a battle. 

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TreyFiveOnMyBack  @yarkmu Yes I hope that one is shelved. Need at least one better scorer in there.

TreyFiveOnMyBack
TreyFiveOnMyBack 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @yarkmu  @Crow 

Some of the lineups brooks rolled out lastnight made my skin crawl. Maynor-Martin-Thabo-Collison-Thabeet.

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts

this isn't based on stats, and is a gross generalization, but i feel like westbrook's playmaking is directly related to his own offensive output. when he's scoring well and dominating  his matchup, he seems to look for his guys more. when he's off, he overcompensates. 

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Crow i agree. rough spot, and then got carried away at the end. i'll take it, because the guy is going to crush it more often than not throughout the season.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @yarkmu  @Crow i just think he was in a tough position of trying to play with a new player and a new rotation. KD was being a little passive, and he got carried away at the end of the game. 

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow definitely. one wonders if he subconsciously tried too hard to have a "great" game to pre-empt the trade naysayers 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @yarkmu Interested to see how Westbrook reacts. His teammates did all they could to console him last night.

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Crow i feel like our offense couldn't get any worse than it got last night. first game of the season jitters, big trade, new pieces. someone mentioned that westbrook always needs a few games to work through his creation/shot balance anyway. 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @yarkmu Yeah they should look better on offense. Hard to tell if last night was good OKC defense or not good overall offense by the Spurs.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow  @yarkmu I actually want him to set his players up.

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