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Monday Bolts – 11.19.12

by Mrs. Daily Thunder on November 19, 2012 at 10:25 am 261 Comments

Nuggets from Darnell Mayberry: “Kevin Durant finally did it. He finally notched that first triple double. It took him 391 NBA games, but it was well worth the wait. He scored 25 points, grabbed 13 rebounds and dished 10 assists in 39 minutes. He had nine assists through three quarters and recorded his final helper with 4:57 left in the fourth. It was the culmination of years of fine-tuning his craft, of countless games where he’s been oh-so close but couldn’t quite seal the deal. But this was the night, and by the end of the night KD looked as complete as we’ve ever seen him.”

NBA.com’s highlights from last night

Kevin Martin will remain sixth man for now: ”Thunder coach Scott Brooks said he currently has no plans to insert Kevin Martin into the starting lineup but left the door open for that to change down the line. “At this moment, no, I don’t see it changing,” Brooks said. “You never know. It’s a long season. A lot of things can happen. But we have a pretty good track record with our starters. They understand their role and they do a good job. Kevin, we’re building him to be that guy off the bench that can give us what we need that particular game.”

The ever improving Kevin Durant: ”His shooting has improved form his rookie season to this one, and so has his shot selection. After those facets of his game got better, he needed to get a little stronger because big defenders like Metta World Peace could just bully him around while chasing him around screens and make it difficult for him to catch the ball or do anything good with it after finally getting a touch. And so KD became stronger, but also better at using screens. Considering that he was already a scoring machine at this point, no one could have blamed him if he stopped trying to improve, but that’s not Durant.”

Kevin Durant says he didn’t care about his triple-double: ”Durant notched his first career triple-double with 25 points, 13 rebounds and a career-high 10 assists, and the Oklahoma City Thunder beat the Golden State Warriors 119-109. ”I really didn’t care, to be honest. If it came, then that’s cool. If it didn’t, then just keep playing,” Durant said. “It feels good to get one. Now, I guess I’ve got a little monkey off my back. I can just go out there and play.” Durant has endured some growing pains this season trying to improve his floor game, with a bump in his assist numbers coinciding with an increase in his turnovers, too. He came in averaging four turnovers per game, the fourth-worst in the league.”

 

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holeydonut
holeydonut 5pts

What? Serge had triple doubles before KD?  Wow I really thought he had one before last night.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @holeydonut 

Whenever he was close. It was a blowout.

That is no coincidence.

But I guess, unfortunate.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @bmuelle21  and @Cleandoe Freeman . I got an email that says:

"This trade offer will process at approximately Nov 21, 2:28 PM ET pending review by your league members. To review this trade and cast your vote to veto or allow it, click here "

 

Your trade was automatically accepted within an hour of getting an email. I didnt get a chance to even review or veto it. This is not fair.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  

So, what is the question?

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe It breaks league rules that was set here:

http://games.espn.go.com/fba/leagueoffice?leagueId=8279&seasonId=2013

 

"The trades will be reviewed under a 2 day period. Within this time the league can veto the said trade in case it is unfair."

 

So its not a question - the trade must be undone. It breaks rules and isnt fair to do to the rest of us.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  @f5alcon 

I don't get it. I said ages ago I'll change it

We changed the subject to roster power but you keep dropping in the old discussion. 

I really don't get it.

 

Your point is that the league will be unfair, although I've already said I'll put it back. What is your argument seriously?

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe  @f5alcon  its not about the players. I follow rules. You know what. I'll leave it on your conscience. If you want to not fix it and leave it -- fine. What goes around really comes around.

 

I respected your league and your rules. If this how things go down though, I'll care less. That's really it.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  @f5alcon 

I just feel you're not taking into account he is losing Marc Gasol and Raymond Felton. 

If you don't like them in real life, doesn't mean there stats don't transfer to the stat sheet well. Great fantasy ballers

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe  @f5alcon

No. And you cant even take any of that personal so stop.

 

 You have a strong team. So does he. I focus on him because he got Nash today as well.  He's #winning.

 

I really wanted Nash. Obviously my bid fell short. To seem him get more good players. Just to to much.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  @f5alcon 

It does it in overall categories you've won, I think. But the difference is 1. Not much to brag about.

I'm not talking about the trade. I've already said I'll put it back. I'm just saying you make it seem like my team are floor scrubbers when we're joint top. 

Look at my roster please before telling me to look at his.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe  @f5alcon I use the filters to see where i am in every category and where i need to improve.

 

I didnt think I was random because I was #4 at week one. Maybe I'm wrong.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  @f5alcon 

Why are you looking at standings when you see we are both 3-0? It just does it randomly...

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe  @f5alcon 

Looks at standings:

I believe you're ranked #4 in the league?

 

Looks at standings again -- whose ranked #2 -- Oh wait...thats me. With Demarcus Cousins and Jose Calderon as my best players.

 

I'm trying my best to work with what I got in a league with slim pickings. If a trade goes through fair and square -- I got no problems. When I'm me... the rest of us is trying to make do with what we have but still other things we cant control (but you can) happen. I HAVE to fight back.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  @f5alcon 

I notice I'm 3-0.

with the best Pts, DD, Rebs (by almost 150) in the league. Also 2nd in Blks & 4th in Stls.

Please respect me first.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe  @f5alcon you notice the rest of his roster?

 

 

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  @f5alcon 

Hand him? I get Marc Gasol if you didn't notice

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe  @f5alcon nah...

 

I like to be fair. He won Steve Nash fair and Square. On top of that you hand him Rudy Gay....

Nope nope nope. Sorry.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @f5alcon  @The Sports Oprah 

lol

I would have done the same for anyone else, if they asked.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah 

No, I mean he accepted the trade at about 2:30 ET. So on Wednesday I'll uphold it at about 2:30 ET.

The rule you keep going on about

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah  This like how the draft was rolled back 4 picks in the middle when his browser crashed

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe its 48hrs! Why cant you wait 48hrs?

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah 

Fair?

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah 

Fine, I'll do it. But only after I gain his attention first. 

Plus I can uphold it before the end since we already agreed on the trade.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe I'm not hating. I'm talking about whats fair and right.

 

This is not hating. Its not fair to do this. Its not for you to judge. In your own rules you say: Within this time the league can veto the said trade in case it is unfair.

 

You cant say your own trade is fair. Its a conflict of interest and isnt right.

This is terrible -- I think very highly of everyone on this wall you cannot do that to other people.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah 

Please. That is an overexagerration.

I actually didn't want it to happen straight away but it's done now and I can't be bothered to do it all over again. 

It was a fair trade anyways. Stop hatin'

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @cleandoe WHAT thats totally not fair you cant really do that to us. I work really hard and spend  a lot of time trying to get my players the clean and right way. I follow your rules. You can undone anything that has been done. Please seek out ways to undo this. It doesnt balance the league at all. It actually crumbles the rest of us.

 

This is not fair - You cant do people dirty like that.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @The Sports Oprah lol

I didn't realise that if I upheld a trade as LM, it would go through immediately.

Oh well, lesson learnt. It ain't changing.

 

What was your problem with it?

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @bmuelle21 I have a problem with your trade

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/11/3-on-3-taking-stock/

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Last season 57.5% of shots were assisted in the league. So far this season 59%. Thunder at 61%. Last playoffs it was a bit over 53% for the league but only 46.5% for the Thunder.  For his career Westbrook's assist rate is 10% lower in the playoffs. I guess that is in line with the overall league trend of regular season to pllayoffs for at least last season.

Tapdog72
Tapdog72 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow

 It would be interesting to know shooting % on unassisted shots vs assisted ones.  A team might succeed with lower assisted shot numbers if they were getting high % unassisted shots

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @Tapdog72 http://www.82games.com/assisted.htm

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Crow You can CROW!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHicD_wr4Aw

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @RRRWHATEVER  @Crow 

Love the Crow!

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

In the finals against Miami the Thunder assisted basket rate was 43%.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

So team assisted FG rate is almost 40% higher now than it was against Miami in the finals.  Good now, problem then.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Every one of the title winners for at least the 10 years have been at or over 50% assisted in the playoffs. Miami in both title seasons were the lowest at just 50%. Dallas was at 64%.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Both Miami and OKC were among the toughest at giving up assisted at the rim shots last season. Miami uis currently the very toughest there this season. OKC average.

 

Last season Miami was tough on giving assists from mid-range. OKC easy. OC one of the toughest on 3 pt assists, Miami fairly  easy.

 

This season both are mixed from mid-range. OKC opponents are being assisted on 91% of 3s made (3rd highest) / Miami in 9th place.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Less commonly noted stats: Thunder are 3rd best at minimizing % of their shots which get blocked and 4th highest on receiving and1s.  http://hoopdata.com/teamoffstats.aspx

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@rednut Harden did not space the floor like Martin does

rednuht
rednuht 5pts

 @OkcBaby  @rednut What? How so?

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @rednuht Easy, majority of Hardens points was driving and around the rim.   Martin is a better 3 point shooter and midrange shooter then harden.  Hence teams could continue to pack the lanes more often where as they have to respect Martins shot first.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @TonyMitchellForPresident13  @OkcBaby  @rednuht Yeah, when he was with Houston. What's he shooting now? 

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

@OkcBaby @rednuht You do realize Harden shot better from 3 than Martin 2 of the last 3 years right?

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I responded to comments from Lambfries and Sammasarron below, where their comments were made.

sammasaaron
sammasaaron 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow Thanks.

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts

Anyone mention KD as western confernce player of the week?

rednuht
rednuht 5pts

 @Skyline And Durant said the triple double didn't mean anything.

HookemKD
HookemKD 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Durant and LeBron, going by stats at least, are pretty much identically the best player in the league. Past them 2 is a steep drop in whoever the 3rd best is right now...

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @HookemKD

 wait till Lazar gets picked up

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