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OKC rolls the Raptors, 108-88

by Royce Young on November 6, 2012 at 10:23 pm 486 Comments

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The Raptors walked into a trap Tuesday night.

The Thunder weren’t only seeking a win. Actually, yeah, that’s exactly what they were after. When you’re 1-2 with the panic attackers ready to pounce, winning is the only thing stopping the bleeding.

But more than just winning, punishing an opponent and feeling good about themselves was going to be a big plus. The Thunder have been saying they were lacking energy and effort, so from the tip Tuesday night, they made sure to bring an edge to the way they played. And that was evident with the way the Thunder played in the first quarter. They played angry. There was a clear sense of urgency from tipoff that this wasn’t going to be more fodder for the worried minority to run with.

“I thought the start was a big part of our win tonight,” Scott Brooks said. “We’ve talked about this the past few days to start the game with a defensive mindset, a game of toughness and I thought we did that in that first quarter.”

The funny thing though about Oklahoma City’s 108-88 win over Toronto is that it really didn’t feel like the Thunder played that great of a game. It honestly seemed to be more about how terrible the Raptors were.

“We don’t change how we approach the game,” Brooks said. “We had a tough loss last game. But we’re not a team that’s going to put our heads down and run from what we need to work on. And if we have a good win we’re not going to all of sudden puff our chests out and say we’re good now. We’re a solid team. We play together, we play hard and we work on the things that we need to work on.”

Russell Westbrook was pretty good with 19 points and eight assists, Serge Ibaka scored a season-high 17 on 7-of-8 shooting and KD had a season-low 15 on just 4-of-11 shooting. There wasn’t a real standout performance from anyone, nothing all that notable individually other than Hasheem Thabeet almost got to run a one-man fast break before he fell down.

Where the Thunder put their stamp was defensively. Absolutely nothing came easy for the Raptors. Every pass was a challenge. Every shot was contested. OKC tried to make dribbling a chore. Toronto shots just 35.7 percent from the floor, turned it over 17 times and looked entirely lost on the offensive end. And I think that was more of a credit to OKC’s defense than anything else.

With the outcome pretty much decided after a quarter, it became more about the little things. It’s the fourth game of the season and Brooks used it to try some new lineups. He went with Hasheem Thabeet as his first man off the bench tonight replacing Perk, and then Kevin Martin a few minutes later replacing Serge Ibaka. The Thunder haven’t played small all that much this season, but when they deployed it tonight, it ripped the Raptors up.

Brooks even tried Perry Jones III in the regular rotation again, using him in the second unit group with Eric Maynor, Martin, Nick Collison and Thabeet. The result? No offense. Jones wasn’t involved in anything and it was basically Maynor trying to manufacture something out of nothing in a pick-and-roll with Collison. I think Jones needs a place on the floor, but it’s on him to get involved in the game. He’s one of those players that if you could take DeAndre Liggins’ attitude and motor and put it in him, you might have a star.

Another game down, back to .500 and something to feel better about. And that’s about it.

NOTES:

  • The most interesting thing from the game: On a technical foul, Kevin Martin took the free throw with Kevin Durant also on the floor. It makes sense as Martin is a higher percentage free thrower than Durant, but KD has always taken the freebies in the past.
  • I’ve been really disappointed with the home crowds thus far this season. There’s just not much energy. Granted, the games haven’t been marquee — Portland, Atlanta and Toronto — but something is lacking. During big runs there isn’t the same noise, the same intensity. I fear Thunder fans are growing up and becoming NBA fans.
  • Westbrook is one of those rare players that gets a technical called on him even after the call goes in his favor. We need a name for this.
  • Eric Maynor played better, I think. He had some rough stretches, and missed some shots badly, but overall, he looked a but more like himself. He had the floater working, which is a beautiful thing.
  • Jeremy Lamb is so smooth it looks like he might fall asleep midshot.
  • Dwane Casey thought the Thunder traveled every time they put the ball on the floor. EVERY time. Literally.
  • Martin missed his first free throw of the season. Really thought he’d never miss one ever.
  • Not one, but TWO assists for Serge Ibaka tonight.
  • And 24 assists total for the Thunder.
  • Another moderately impressive performance from Hasheem Thabeet. He matched his career high in points with 10, which also is the first time since his rookie season (78 games) that he’s reached double-figures. And only the fourth time in his career.
  • KD’s dunk on Jonas Valanciunas >>>>
  • I asked Scott Brooks pregame if he thought the team was lacking any excitement, in that it wasn’t too long ago where they were playing in the NBA Finals against the Heat and now they’re in November playing Tuesday night games against the Raptors. “That’s a good question. There’s no question that when you get to the NBA Finals you’re at the highest level,” Brooks said. “But the process to get back has to start at the beginning of the season. And our guys have done a good job of understanding that the process of work every day. There’s no guarantee that June excitement will come back, we have to work for it and there are a lot of steps ahead.”
  • KD came out clearly more aggressive calling hit own number. He took shots on his first two touches, both semi forced. He only finished with 11 total, but he did seem to have more of an eye towards scoring.
  • I was really hoping a player would have an “I Voted” sticker on their jersey tonight.
  • Swell touch by the Thunder playing the Jurassic Park theme during the Raptors’ starting lineups.
  • Brian Davis Line of the Night via @ThunderBDSays: “I got three words for you. Asking me to rappel off a 300 foot office tower? NO. THANK. YOU.”
  • Bonus BD line of the Night via @ThunderBDSays: “Serge just walks into KD’s house and takes his food. “I want me a pop tart!”

Next up: At the Bulls Thursday.

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KatieCap
KatieCap 5pts

Thank God for Brian Davis. 

SoCal Thunder
SoCal Thunder 5pts

BONUS BONUS BD Line: "Air Congo ready to take flight (as he imitates a pilot talking through a walkie talkie)" classic

chuckbeesy
chuckbeesy 5pts

Totally agree about the crowds. I'm in CO and poor so I won't be helping the cause, but so far I've been able to watch each game and their seems to be a notable increase in empty seats in the lower seating area. I don't remember ever seeing too many empty seats. Is this because of natural gas prices or what's going on? It also doesn't come across as pandemonium through the TV like it used to. And people coming back way late after halftime! #crowdpolice 

 

Maybe the question Royce asked about the teams energy applies to fan support as well. The overall aura around the team has been a little negative/apathetic thus far. 

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts

When we lose every time we play the Nuggets in Denver, blame it on the weed.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/11/wednesday-bolts-11-7-12/

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

Livefyre breaking down...... i blame Obama.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PerkPunt I blame Perk.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @PerkPunt 

I thought it was Brooks' fault. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @PerkPunt I flipped a coin. Heads - Brooks, Tails - Perk.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

When the rooks came in i said to myself...." we have the best 3rd stringers in the league"

 

tell me i'm wrong

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PerkPunt "You're wrong."

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, you probably aren't. But you did say to tell you so...

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I thought we were doing bad rebounding but we're fourth in DRB% at the moment.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia Heavily carried by unsustainable performances from perimeter players. Durant came back to earth a bit last game. Hope when he does the bigs can make up for it. They did last night. 

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I'm just assuming a bunch of posts are hidden and that's a good thing. 

Nice to see a good effort all around on defensive boards, especially from Perkins and Collison.

I'm never going to forgive Jeremy Lamb for ruining his career numbers last night. m

dwells
dwells 5pts

i wonder if the coach realizes that when you take perkins out of the game, and leave the rest of the starters in, they play better.  Quicker rotations, and better intensity.  Then he took out ibaka, instead of sefalosha, and we made a huge run on them.  that happened in the 1st and 3rd quarters.  The substitution pattern was the best i have seen maybe ever.  I don't think it was a coincidence we suffocated a very good raptors team like that.  And it seemed as if Westbrook was conciously looking to get other players involved instead of forcing a shot in transition.  Exactly what we need from him.  If we play the right way, we are so talented that we will get on a roll against anybody.  We just can't afford those wasted possessions against the elite teams, and we can't afford those bad substitution patters where we have a bad lineup in and the other team comes back

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dwells "Very good raptors team" uh... don't know if I'd call them that.

dwells
dwells 5pts

i bet they make the playoffs.  they arent great, but they're solid.  we made them look terrible by just playing together.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Would Reggie be doing worse better or equal to what Maynor is doing right now?

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @PerkPunt Reggie hasn't lit the world on fire either.  

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 i understand that but , would he be doing worse or nearly equal? One would think if you have a guy most likely on his way out then decreasing his PT wouldnt be a bad thing considering his replacement isnt worse than him and could possibly get more comfortable and better with more PT.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/07/garnett-says-sullinger-is-like-perkins-without-the-defense/

 

I'll let the link description do the talking. That said, it's a good thing he didn't fall to us.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas

 Boston = sullinger'd

Sigmund
Sigmund 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas James Harden is also like Joe Dumars without defense. Good thing we traded him.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Heh. Heheh. Hahahaha.

 

"After chatting a bit pre-game with Westbrook, this reporter made the mistake of talking about the Miami Heat locker room within earshot of Westbrook, who still, understandably, has not gotten over the Finals loss to the Heat.

“That’s a bad word around here, that’s a very bad word,” Westbrook said, clearly not exactly joking."

 

Source: http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/06/thunder-rolls-over-raptors

slimjimzv
slimjimzv 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

livefyre is failing right now. . .

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

Danny Granger out 3 months.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia Is it just me or are there more injuries than normal for this time of year?

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Weed is now legal in Colorado and Washington State...WOW

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

Sad

Sigmund
Sigmund 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @kennygee90 Nuggets just moved up as a free agency destination. Beasley will sign there for the minimum, that's for sure at least..

Nicky Scarfo
Nicky Scarfo 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

"And you know this, MAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!"

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm liking Thabeet a litle bit more every game.  I think we may have found something there.  He's already a defensive presence in the paint and he's doing better on catching and finishing.  I also like that he seems to be big enough to hang with the more physical centers so far.  I think Nazr had more court awareness and Cole had a better offensive game, but Hash is already on the cusp of being the best back-up center we've had so far.  Btw, I'm not counting Nick as a center even though we use him that way.  I don't think he thinks of himself that way, either.

Gyella
Gyella 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @TaoMaas He was great from the FT line too last night. A rarity for a 7'3" guy.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @TaoMaas He has to foul less.  Even if it means he's less effective.  9.8 PF per 36 minutes is insane.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia  @TaoMaas

 i think most of his fouls are just dumb fouls getting beat and wanting to stop a post move afterwards. He has to just learn that he will get beat sometimes

okcjim
okcjim 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @justin_mia  @TaoMaas

 You can tell the refs across the league see him as a hack.  If he gets close to someone they call a foul on him. 

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TaoMaas Thabeet still has some rawness that is slowly being molded into a possible key backup for the Thunder. I'm definitely happy and proud of his improvement.

CDSpark
CDSpark 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Wow, this board today is like talking to my 3 grandchildren at the same time....  all over the place and random.  Replies to comments that don't exist.   I am all a dither here

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @CDSpark 

They're getting deleted, I think.  Fewer every time I refresh.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

I must have missed this artice on Martin.  It's a good one...

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/50755/dissecting-kevin-martins-efficiency

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Dang... and I wanted to respond to the guy who posted the grantland link too...

okcjim
okcjim 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Does Royce have a child that got ahold of the delete button haha?  Random deletes all over the board!

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts

 @okcjim Probably for the best.

Zach99
Zach99 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

People love to dump on Russ when he has a bad game, but he was running things very well last night.  He was really in sync with Serge on the pick and pop.  Looked very smooth with some perfect passes allowing Serge to get some real rhythym jumpers that he knocked down.  Another extremely low turnover game also.

 

Only criticism from me is on the threes.  He made a good percentage, but I still wasn't a huge fan of some of those shots.

 

Still a wonderful all around floor game from Russ.  Hopefully we see more of this.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

 @Zach99I agree.  I thought they all played pretty well.  Perk had his best game of the year.  He played good defense (help and on ball) and was really active.  Was by far our best game so far.

 

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Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @CP2

 spam?

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @CP2 guideline #2 says no posting about politics.

slimjimzv
slimjimzv 5pts

Wha?

slimjimzv
slimjimzv 5pts

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/41787/youre-allowed-to-hate-the-thunder-now

slimjimzv
slimjimzv 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Reading this actually made me angry. . . .

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts

 @slimjimzv It's true though. Although, I am sure a lot of people hated the Thunder regardless.

 

It just proves that we are legitimate, and will stick around for a long time.

 

HATERS GON' HATE

slimjimzv
slimjimzv 5pts

The premise of the article is that ownership was too cheap to pay Harden.  I haven't seen this written anywhere.  In fact, I've seen indications that ownership was willing to pay but Presti didn't want to go that deep into the luxury tax for that long.  But the writer doesn't want to let facts get in the way of his biased opinion.

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