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OKC swarms Harden and handles Houston, 120-98

by Royce Young on November 28, 2012 at 11:35 pm 310 Comments

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Entering tonight’s homecoming for James Harden, the big question was how the home fans would respond. Would they boo? Would they cheer? These are the stupid things we all care about.

But in the end, it was obvious: They were a whole lot more cordial and friendly than the Thunder were.

All that talk of this being any old game and No. 13 in red being just your usual opposing player? Yeah, right. The Thunder swarmed him, frustrated him, and completely locked down on him. Part of that is probably coincidental seeing as Harden is by far the best player Houston’s got. But there was a little extra motivation there too.

“Pride gets in and definitely you don’t want to be the one where he scored 30 against you,” Thabo Sefolosha said. “So definitely.”

Harden didn’t score 30. Didn’t score 20 either. He got 17, but it came on a miserable 3-of-16 shooting night that didn’t see him hit his first bucket until the second half.

It was certainly awkward seeing that beard in Rocket red. But it didn’t take long to get past it all. The Thunder crowd responded appropriately to Harden’s introduction — a hearty ovation — but didn’t give him any special treatment as the game went on. After Harden got into it with Hasheem Thabeet in the second quarter leading to an ejection and then un-ejection of Thabeet, Harden was booed lustily on the free throw line. The message was clear: We used to be friends, but not when you’re playing against us.

“I knew that they would cheer. We’ve got great fans They’re very respectful and classy and did the right thing, cheer him on,” said Scott Brooks. “But once the game started it was us versus them. Our fans have the same mentality we have: We’re respectful, we compete fairly, we compete aggressively. But we’re not here to make friends with our opponent.”

This idea that this game didn’t have more in it was crazy. The Thunder very obviously not only wanted to beat the Rockets, they wanted to do it in style. A couple statement plays: Westbrook’s block of Harden, Ibaka’s two possessions later and then Durant’s and-1 3 right in Harden’s face where he punctuated it by doing Harden’s “3s down” move. A little message sent there?

“Paying homage to the guys that we used to have here,” KD said. “I wasn’t talking trash man. Just paying homage.”

Homage, message, trash talk, whatever. It was cold-blooded.

I don’t know if KD had that little move in the back of his head, but it’s possible, seeing as he couldn’t get this game out of his head yesterday.

“Last night, I couldn’t sleep throughout the day in my napping, and last night, just thinking about playing against my former teammates, or really my brothers,” he said.

On the floor, KD was wide awake going for 37 on 13-22 shooting. He looked completely locked in to the game, showing a little more emotion than I’ve seen from him this season. This is the kind of game that Durant always shows up for. The Rockets were really never all that close but any time they threatened, No. 35 put them back to sleep.

It seems like we can finally kind of put this whole thing in the past now. It’s been a month since Harden was dealt, and now we’ve seen him in person playing on the other team. We got to experience what it felt like to be annoyed when he threw his head back looking for a foul. We got to watch him hit 3s and run down the floor with three fingers dragging the floor. We got to watch him try and beat the Thunder.

Now, it’s done with. Now, he’s just another player on another team. Or at least more so than he was before tonight.

“It feels good to compete against these guys and finally get it over with,” Harden said after the game. “Now I can continue on with the season.”

I’m sure it did feel good to get that one over with. And he’s probably not looking forward to the next meeting either.

NOTES:

  • Durant on Harden: “It was crazy. Seeing him before the game, in chapel, in a different uniform, it was a little different,” Durant said. “But we moved on past it man, happy to see him, glad he’s doing well out there in Houston. But we wanted this win bad for all those days in practice that him, Daequan and Eric Maynor beat the first group, I wanted this game real bad. It was a good win. Good to see him and good luck to him the rest of the way.”
  • Brooks on what he told Harden pregame: “Just the normal things. Pleasantries. We’re not going to let you score tonight. He said good luck.”
  • Serge Ibaka, terrific. I never bought in to the Harden-or-Ibaka talk, but if there was any of that, Ibaka sure made the Thunder look smart tonight. He went 11-of-13 for 23 points with nine rebounds and five blocks. In 29 minutes.
  • Look, I get that Chandler Parsons is a pretty nice player. But the number of people that have tweeted or said, “Well, keep in mind Chandler Parsons didn’t play…” is pretty ridiculous. If that’s where this Rockets team is, Chandler Parsons not playing, I think that says a whole lot.
  • Without Parsons though, that left Harden and Cook to defend KD for most of the game. And they really just had zero chance of checking him.
  • That KD baseline stepback in the fourth quarter.
  • Evidently the James Harden trade should be known as the Daequan Cook trade. Cook did a lot more damage tonight than Harden did.
  • Nothing all that interesting from Harden pregame. He said he wouldn’t have done things differently leading up to the trade and said he was stunned by it. “To be honest, I thought it was a very slight chance a trade would happen,” he said.
  • Brooks on Harden: “James had an off night, that’s the bottom line. He missed some shots he normally would have made.”
  • Is it just me or does Kevin Martin swish everything? Everything that goes in, I should say.
  • The Thunder got hit with a delay of game before tipoff because pregame handshakes took too long. And it came back to bite them as Westbrook got a delay of game late in the fourth, which resulted in a technical foul Said KD about it: “I gotta go quicker on my little introductions or whatever they call it. Hopefully we don’t get one of those again. I just gotta speed it up.”
  • Scott Brooks pronounced Omer Asik’s name “Ass-ick.” Which was awesome.
  • Kevin Martin matched Harden with 17 points himself.
  • Evidently Presti should asked for Patrick Patterson in the deal.
  • Public service announcement: I can’t rip video when I’m at the arena. Also, I’m not your personal video ripper of every single play you want to see. Thank you.
  • Westbrook is an improved catch-and-shooter, but he seems to rush it just a bit. His body doesn’t get settled and he almost starts his motion before he’s entirely caught the ball.
  • When Jeremy Lamb is just catching and shooting, he looks amazing.
  • So the Thabeet ejection. Evidently he sort of pushed ref Marc Davis inadvertently, which Davis interpreted as a “hostile” act. The play was reviewed and Thabeet was allowed to return to the bench. Davis released a statement after the game saying basically nothing, just describing what happened.
  • Props to Davis though who is generally a pretty hot-headed official but swallowed his pride and reversed his decision.
  • Evidently though Scott Brooks ejected Thabeet too, because he never returned. At least not until garbage time.
  • Nick Collison said postgame that they definitely knew Harden’s game well and that helped, noting how KD timed up his Euro-step for a block.
  • It should be noted that the Rockets had it pretty rough today. They were coming off a game last night but on top of that, they flew to Minnesota to attend Kevin McHale’s daughter’s funeral. So while it was an emotionally charged game because of Harden’s return, the Rockets had other stuff on their minds too.
  • Seriously, Eric Maynor must have the coldest hands in history. He never stops blowing into them.
  • It’s pretty obvious that Thabeet is trying to play with a little mean streak this season. Trying.
  • The crowd was tremendous tonight. Harden got his ovation and the crowd was respectful of him the whole game. Except when he messed with one of their guys. At that point, he was just like any other opponent. Then the roar for Thabeet when he returned. Awesome stuff.
  • Awesome tweet to me from @alexmsteele: “Is it just me or has Grant Long supposedly been in every situation possible in basketball?”
  • We all know Thabo’s a tremendous defender, but the guy deserves more credit than he gets. He’s a lockdown guy.
  • Nice moment pregame between Cole Aldrich and KD. Aldrich, who didn’t play because of an ankle injury, was waving over at the Thunder bench and no one seemed to really notice him. Durant looked up and not only waved back, but ran to midcourt and gave him a big hug and talked to him for a few minutes.
  • A lot of people have been asking where KD’s mom has been this season. She will be at Friday’s game. She lives out in DC and simply doesn’t come to all the games. That’s it.
  • Brian Davis Line of the Night via @ThunderBDSays: “The ashington izards are now the ashington Wizards… They got one W!”

Next up: Home against the Jazz Friday.

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atxhorn
atxhorn 5pts

Didn't Ibaka get six blocks, not five?

Sigmund
Sigmund 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/11/thursday-bolts-11-29-12/

Thunder S
Thunder S 5pts

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Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @Thunder S posted this morning

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Has this been posted?  http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh600/Rodman2124/asspat.gif

Podirk
Podirk 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@justin_mia Was that PATrick PATterson??

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 take that , take that.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @justin_mia Dear Patrick Patterson. Bandz does NOT make Hasheem Thabeet dance... 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @justin_mia yeah, it was last night I think.. hilarious.

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I'm afraid of the Knicks being good and Carmelo having a good (for him) season.  If he won a MVP before Durant I'd cut my eye balls out.

MostJadedGamer
MostJadedGamer 5pts

 @justin_mia

 I think one of the keys for Durant winning the MVP this year is for the Thunder to finish with the #1 seed in the West, and of course also win his 4th straight scoring title. 

alvarex
alvarex 5pts

 @justin_mia The MVP award, more often than not, goes to the best player on the best team.  Last year that technically didn't happen, but that's the reason why Rose, James (the first few times), Nash, Shaq, Duncan, and Dirk won the MVP in their respective years.  It's always the tie breaker.

 

So if the Knicks have the best overall record, then maybe he'll win the MVP.  But it's unlikely.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia

 i dont think Melo is having an MVP caliber season.

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 @PerkPunt Neither was Derrick Rose...

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @#sheem  @anonymous12345  @justin_mia

  just think Amare wont get 30+ mins off the bat. I could care less if he makes them better or not they are not  ECF team IMO

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 @#sheem  @PerkPunt  @anonymous12345 They'll need Amar'e to do something when their 3pt shooters come down to earth.  Felton, Kidd, Smith, Melo shooting unsustainable percentages, IMO.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @Keith00  @PerkPunt  @anonymous12345  @justin_mia Oh I get it...but worse than being 1st or 2nd seed is ...3rd or 4th. Its just a really really really ridiculous thought to pass around. Knicks wont be the Wizards when Amare comes back.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @#sheem  @PerkPunt  @anonymous12345  @justin_mia Amare is a shell of his former self, and lineups with him and Melo together don't work for real basketball reasons. The Knicks aren't going to suddenly tank with Amare, but smart fans know that Amare is going to make the team worse, he's a negative player overall.

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @#sheem  @PerkPunt  @justin_mia

 I dont think Amare makes their team worse.  But that doesn't mean he won't bring down Carmelo's number.  No different that Ibaka's numbers being up without Harden.  There are only a certain amount of points/rebounds to be had

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @anonymous12345  @justin_mia Please dont feed into the Amare stopping the Knicks Wish/hope/story that everyone is trying to push. 

 

Lets be smarter basketball fans....lol...those be twitter comments. 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @anonymous12345  @justin_mia

i doubt amare get that many mins for a while

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @justin_mia

 I don't see this happening.  Durant's numbers are across the board better than Melo's.  Further, at some point the Heat are going to go on a 10+ win streak and leave the rest of the east in the dust, so there is no worry about the Knicks being the #1 seed.  Also, once Amare comes back, Melo's numbers will go down, even if Amare comes off the bench, he'll still get 30+ minutes 

supreme35
supreme35 5pts

 @justin_mia  @PerkPunt You would hope there would be some consideration of how weak the East is.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 if NYK get a #1 seed and he performs well in the first two playoff games then he might get a good bit of votes but the narrative will still be the heat as the team to beat. While KD will have a better narrative if OKC gets a top 3 seed without Harden

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 yeah i forgot about D12. his team made him look bad in the playoffs

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 The knicks where bad like the bulls but not forgotten like the bulls where

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 @PerkPunt Dwight was the clear winner, and if NYK earn a top seed what happens?  Ugh.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia

 Derrick Rose MVP  was a little diffrent as he is responsible for the resurrection of a team in the third biggest market in the US. The local media was more powerful in terms of creating the story. Also no clear winner means Rose was an easy vote.

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts

 @justin_mia That would be ridiculous. I really think that this is KD's year to win MVP. If he keeps up these levels of production, KD wins it hands down. He has by far the best stats of anyone this season, and his team is 12-4 without Harden.

 

I looked today cause I was curious. KD is leading LeBron in points, rebounds, blocks, and steals. And LeBron's normal edge over KD, assists, is much closer this season. Also, at this point, KD is shooting 50/40/90. LeBron is shooting 50/40/67. And there's no way that LeBron's 3 point percentage remains that high. KD's shooting numbers could be sustainable.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TempBoy Brandon  @justin_mia KD is not getting MVP this year. They will find some other excuse to not give it to him.

 

Carmelo will have a better chance to win it because they'v been itchin for him to be THAT player since he left 'cuse

supreme35
supreme35 5pts

 @#sheem  @TempBoy Brandon  @justin_mia I will be so mad if you're right. Melo fans would come out of the woodwork.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @#sheem  @TempBoy Brandon  @justin_mia I'm diggin the new name... jump on the hashtrain.

supreme35
supreme35 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia Based on the season so far there is no reason he should win over Durant.

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 @supreme35 Derrick Rose won an MVP.

supreme35
supreme35 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia Rose is a more dynamic and exciting player than he is. Melo's market will help him though. It could happen but it would be a jooooke.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @supreme35  @justin_mia Get a dog and a stick because... chances are they'll give it to him. ESPECIALLY if they have a better record than the Heat

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @Perkfection  @supreme35  @justin_mia Maybe you could get him on the not so late show, and then break his kneecaps?  :)

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

@supreme35 @justin_mia might when because of the turnaround

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @justin_mia That might be messy though, and there's that whole blindness thing.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

I want to see this lineup more..

 

5 N. Collison | K. Durant | K. Martin | H. Thabeet | R. Westbrook OKC 10:31 +28.7 -4.7 +.333 +4.7 -11.6 +.333 +.361 -6.3 -1.6 -.167 +55.8 +4.7 +12.2 +12.4 +12.2 +7.7 +15.8

 

Just for test purposes though.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

On these rookies and other young guys I know it's easy to say so and so isn't productive they stink but almost all rookies have a learning curve.  Harden barely made the rookie/sophomore game his 2nd year.  I think he was an alternate and right after that game is when things started to click.  So guys like Jackson, Lamb and PJ3 should all continue to improve.  You can even throw Thabeet into that group. 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @okcjim

 took harden a full season to get consistent.

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Durant #1 in offensive win shares and tied for #1 with Duncan in defensive win shares.  Lot of that is playing a ton of minutes of course...

Hasheem Thabinks
Hasheem Thabinks 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @justin_mia And lots of that is being Kevin Motherf****** Durant

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Did anyone else feel kinda bad for Harden last night?

 

For me, after about the 5th blocked shot and not getting any buckets to fall and the feeling I got that he was pressing because the game meant a lot to him... I don't know, I just felt kinda bad for him.

 

Don't get me wrong, I was glad to beat down the Rockets. I was glad that K-Mart scored as many points as Harden, on a lot less shots and minutes. I was glad that

 

But I felt kinda bad for the guy. Kinda like if you see an ex-girlfriend that you used to really care for a lot, if she is struggling, even if the break-up was her fault, you just wanna give her a hug. I was glad to beat him, but I wanted to give him a hug.

 

 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @TempBoy Brandon Lemme think about it for a sec.....

 

Hmmm.

 

Nope. He can cry himself to sleep in a bed of 80 million 1 dollar bills, along with a few of the ladies from Night Trips. 

 

:)

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Tronchaser Haha. Fine, I'm alone in this sentiment. Maybe I'm just a hugger.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @TempBoy Brandon  @Tronchaser 

You're too nice, Brandon.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @TempBoy Brandon Honestly, I want him to do well and thrive there, until they play us - and then I want him to lose by 50.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TempBoy Brandon  @Tronchaser I felt kind of bad for him too. Honestly, it wasn't his fault that we traded him, and I don't wish any bad play upon him. If it could be OKC-Houston in the WCF for the next decade, I would be happy. I would still want OKC to win, but I would hope Harden plays his best too.

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser  @TempBoy Brandon The American Dream.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @D-MC  @Tronchaser  @TempBoy Brandon His Kleenex is made out of dollars....

 

He aight. 

Fisha Status
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 @TempBoy Brandon Nope. just you.

Trackbacks

  1. Three-Pointers: Thunder blow out Rockets in Harden’s return to OKC | The Point Forward - SI.com says:
    November 29, 2012 at 12:56 am

    [...] of words, Rockets center Omer Asik pushed Thabeet away from Harden and into Davis. That contact, Davis indicated after the game, is what drew the ejection. With Davis sticking to his guns on the automatic ejection for [...]

  2. Harden stymied in return to OKC | Online News says:
    November 29, 2012 at 1:43 am

    [...] of words, Rockets center Omer Asik pushed Thabeet away from Harden and into Davis. That contact, Davis indicated after the game, is what drew the ejection. With Davis sticking to his guns on the automatic ejection for [...]

  3. Harden stymied in return to OKC - Gadsit Buzz says:
    November 29, 2012 at 2:33 am

    [...] of words, Rockets center Omer Asik pushed Thabeet away from Harden and into Davis. That contact, Davis indicated after the game, is what drew the ejection. With Davis sticking to his guns on the automatic ejection for [...]

  4. Harden stymied in return to OKC : One Caribbean Radio | The Global Mix says:
    November 29, 2012 at 4:16 am

    [...] of words, Rockets center Omer Asik pushed Thabeet away from Harden and into Davis. That contact, Davis indicated after the game, is what drew the ejection. With Davis sticking to his guns on the automatic ejection for [...]

  5. Harden stymied in return to OKC - DistinctiveImpression MMG says:
    November 29, 2012 at 5:20 am

    [...] of words, Rockets center Omer Asik pushed Thabeet away from Harden and into Davis. That contact, Davis indicated after the game, is what drew the ejection. With Davis sticking to his guns on the automatic ejection for [...]

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