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Practice Report: Preaching patience for Lamb

by Royce Young on November 29, 2012 at 3:31 pm 712 Comments

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Any time a player gets sent to the D-League, it’s seen as a demotion. It’s natural. The D-League is down. The NBA is up.

Especially when the player is someone drafted in the lottery, with legitimate expectations and potential. So with Jeremy Lamb being assigned to the Tulsa 66ers, there’s a little disappointment bouncing around about one of the pieces the Thunder got back in the Harden trade.

Lamb obviously has some offensive skill, and actually is a little better defender than I figured he’d be. But he’s very clearly a rookie that forces things and looks a bit overwhelmed on the floor. The best way for any rookie to learn, adapt and adjust to the speed of the NBA game is to play. And Lamb wasn’t seeing any time other than mop up duty.

That’s how Kevin Durant developed. That’s how Russell Westbrook developed. That’s how Serge Ibaka developed. They got out on the floor, played big minutes and weren’t worried about what their playing time was going to look like. So with Lamb essentially stuck in neutral behind Kevin Martin, Thabo and Durant, it was either let him sit in a warmup and wait for 20-point blowouts, or send him to Tulsa to let him play some.

“I think it’s going to be great for him to get on the court and play,” said Scott Brooks. “That’s the great advantage that we have in Tulsa. One, it’s right down the road, northeast. So we get to follow them and they do everything we do. And Darko [Rajakovic] does a great job. I’ve seen him in action, so [Lamb is] going to get great work on the practice floor and game floor.

Now, yes, playing in the D-League is a lot different than playing in the NBA. But with the Thunder’s stature, they don’t exactly have the luxury of lending big minutes to a developing rookie. It’s unreasonable to carve out 20 minutes a night for Lamb if he’s not ready. If the Thunder were headed back to the lottery, absolutely. But this is a contending team that has playoff seeding, homecourt advantage and bigger things on their mind.

Lamb showed off his pure stroke Wednesday against the Rockets, swishing two catch-and-shoot 3s with little effort. He’s a smooth scorer, but one that definitely needs a little refining. He can spot-up, but if he’s going to be a future impact player for OKC, he needs to improve as a ball-handler, as a creator, as a defender and as an attacker.

“We like what he does. He has a very high skill set,” Brooks said. “He definitely needs to continue to develop his body and his game, but that’s a great position for him to be in.”

Being sent to the D-League isn’t some kind of NBA death sentence. Unlike a lot of other teams that would just let their rookie sit and watch, the Thunder take full advantage of their D-League affiliate. They send players down, bring them back up and use it as much as a develop tool as they would practice. In Tulsa they run the same system, operate the same kind of practice, use the same terminology and play the same kind of style.

Lamb was traded into a great situation with the Thunder because he was going to have great players to learn under and a supportive organization that’s not in a hurry with him. But at the same time, with OKC’s depth, he wasn’t going to have the opportunity to get time on the floor.

With the trade, it was pretty clear the intention was to have Martin for the short-term, and hope Lamb blossoms into something for the long-term. And if not, that’s where the picks and cap flexibility come into play. But as is the usual, the Thunder aren’t in any kind of rush right now.

SCOTT BROOKS

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On Westbrook in the post: “Russell has improved every year in the post. I think he’s more comfortable this year. I also think it’s natural. He’s been working on it three or four years now. I still think we can get him down there more.”

On if Westbrook makes his teammates better: “I think he has. Like all the great players they have the ability to score and they have the ability to help their teammates score. And he’s doing that at a high level this year. His passing has improved. But not just him, our team has improved. Our spacing, our basketball IQ level has gone up because of all the work they’ve put in … I think our team is seeing defenses much better this year.”

On how long Lamb will spend in Tulsa: “Don’t know that. Don’t know that yet. Some time.”

RUSSELL WESTBROOK

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On what he’s looking for in the pick-and-pop with Ibaka: “It’s usually two people on me, so somebody’s open. If it’s two people on me somebody else is open and you just got to find the open guy.”

On if he has a goal this year with his passing: “No.”

On his mindset as a creator: “You just got to play. Play off instinct. If somebody’s guarding you, then pass it. If not, then make a play.”

On if he goes to the post enough: “Not enough. I will though. I will though. I gotta find a way to get down there.”

Audio via Randy Renner

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SeeMoreLamb
SeeMoreLamb 5pts

See more Lamb....... in my own city of Tulsa!!(:

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

why can we just get ird of perkins, why can't we just amnesty him...why!!?? why!!??

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCe_9DFctvs

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

Trading the pick would be best.  Lottery picks are exciting but are far from a guarantee.  Even in the 4-8 range, and especially if you're planning on selecting a big man.  Wing players are usually higher percentage picks in that range.

 

If the Thunder can use the pick to get out of Perkins' contract and upgrade that position, it's a no brainer.  That's what I'd seek to do.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @justin_mia   I suspect you're right that we'll trade the pick.  With the players we have locked up right now, our real need lies further down the road.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@justin_mia I still have hope that Timberwolves miss the playoffs again and Love demands a trade.

tygablood
tygablood 5pts

I think we should include he Toronto pick in a trade. We should sell high on that pick because there is no way Toronto is outside the top 3, They may have the worst record since the wiz got Nene back and won the first game with him. I have no interest in waiting another year to cash in on the Harden trade, make a move with Cleveland or someone else and let's win now

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @tygablood with the lottery system it doesn't matter where they end up they could be in the not in the top 3 even if they are a bottom 3 team or the 15th team.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@tygablood Avatar confused me...I thought God was speaking.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @tygablood I will only trade that pick if it get us someone like gortat and I can also get rid of perkins 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @tygablood

 Then who do you trade for?  Tyreke Evens?

THUNDERCATS
THUNDERCATS 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @tygablood

 id rather have cousins.....id rather have the pick, lamb, and pj3..i have faith in the wizards and pistons to tank while the raptors give effort at least

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @THUNDERCATS  @PerkPunt  @tygablood The Raptors have played better than their record. They have lost an inordinate amount of close games. That will likely level off over time anyway.

 

I agree our best bet may be trading the pick, though.

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @THUNDERCATS  @PerkPunt  @tygablood The only thing is, with a weak draft, package a high pick and get someone established. And sell high to a team that is already rebuiliding and can use the pick

 

tygablood
tygablood 5pts

@PerkPunt Tyreke? I dunno...I was thinking a big like Andy V would be better than Tyreke

tygablood
tygablood 5pts

The*

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

I like Gobert and Noel a lot because of their tendencies to get steals with their wingspans.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel/FreePerryandJeremy!!!

 Noel is a PF in the league.

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PerkPunt  @FreeFezzyFel/FreePerryandJeremy!!! A good one too. He has a pretty solid Offensive skill set

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @FreeFezzyFel/FreePerryandJeremy!!! Noel isn't particularly long. Nor does he have a big frame. Just as Davis is a PF, Noel likely doesn't stay at C at the next level.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @Keith00  @PerkPunt I could see both as centers in the future assuming they can gain weight.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @PerkPunt Depends on how he can bulk up. 

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

Let me show you what I've been working on, I'll probably win executive of the year wouldn't I? 

 

http://s11.postimage.org/dzz2gabsx/Trade_OKC.jpg

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @KeyserSo7e

 i dont like kemba walker's game

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @KeyserSo7e I love it. 

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @PerkPunt I think he'll make a good sub..if not how about Fredette?

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @PerkPunt you're right

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e

 a 3rd PG

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e

 he has a lottery contract right? too expensive for we third PG

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @KeyserSo7e Ha, if you could get those teams to take the deal, you should win executive of the century.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @Keith00 LOL

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

I was wondering if we actually get the toronto pick this year, at 4# or 5#, who do you think we should pick?

 

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @KeyserSo7e   I used to think our biggest need was at center, but I've revised that because of the progress of Thabeet.  At BEST, our Toronto pick will be a #4 guy...and here we have a former #2 pick fall into our laps...a guy that Presti would have picked at #3 if he had been available.  So now I'm thinking that we need to go get help for our 2nd team.  As much as I love Maynor, he just hasn't been the same since his injury and the Harden trade.  I think that was a bit of a double-whammy to him.  I haven't given up on him yet, but by year's end, I think the direction ought to be clear.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @TaoMaas In that case what Pg would you pick?

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e    I think Thabeet can be that guy, although he may be a year or so away from it.  I throw out his years up until now because he wasn't handled right.  He may have been drafted way too high at #2, but I think that every GM in the league would have grabbed him if he'd been in the 8-10 range.  That's more than plenty when combined with KD, Russ, and the emerging Serge.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @Keith00  @TaoMaas But I still think that we should go for a good center, imagine our startin lineup with a center that can score more tha 4 ppg and grab more than 4 rpg, that would make us even better right away

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @Keith00  @TaoMaas I was thining the same, I like that dude

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @KeyserSo7e  @TaoMaas Smart is the only PG viable for a high pick. I don't like anyone in the late first or second.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @TaoMaas  @KeyserSo7e

 I think we go best player avaliable no  matter what position they play.  A combo 2-4 MKG type of player would be best. But i guess we have that in liggins pertainting to defense. A F/C would cause some excitement and build the amnesty perk talks but i think he is with us to the end or atleast until he becomes an expiring.  A PG to battle reggie for the backup would be another route. I like Reggie and think he will do fine but a more  dynamic rookie could be a great tool for the team.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel/FreePerryandJeremy!!!    I'm not sure how many rookies would be able to start for the Thunder.  We're not the Wizards or Bobcats.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @PerkPunt    "A PG to battle reggie for the backup would be another route. I like Reggie and think he will do fine but a more  dynamic rookie could be a great tool for the team."

 

This is what I'm thinking.  I like Reggie, but I'm looking at Lamb and PJIII as our future 2nd team.  A PG with that kind of skill range, who could contribute now, would help the team a lot and provide a path to the future.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @TaoMaas  @KeyserSo7e

 errors all day, excuse them.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @TaoMaas  @KeyserSo7e With a pick that high, we should be aiming for someone who can start on this team. Two open positions would be at the 2 and at the 5. We have more depth at the 2, therefore, I'd aim for someone to play at the 5.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TaoMaas  @KeyserSo7e I would hope Presti wouldn't have taken Thabeet 2nd. That pick was being ridiculed pretty heavily from the moment it was made by Memphis. As for helping the bench, that's what the Dallas and our own pick are for. We should take BPA, that's just how the NBA works. Of course, BPA at a position with no minutes means we are more likely to trade than anything. If we get the 4th pick, and Poythress (or any SF/PF) is the obvious pick, we should probably trade down.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @Crow    I'd heard it said before that the Thunder were thinking of drafting Thabeet, but David Thorpe talks about it in his interview that's linked in the Thursday Bolts.  Is Presti more chance than skill?  Eh...maybe.  But the Thunder have already gotten more out of Thabeet than his previous 3 teams combined, so I'm leaning towards believing that Sam is what everyone thinks he is...the craftiest GM in the game.  When you stop and think about it, Thabeet really made more sense for OKC at the time.  We were playing Nenad at center and were getting muscled around inside.  We really didn't NEED Harden...which is why he ended up as our 6th man.  I think he was just the best player available at our draft position.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @TaoMaas  @Keith00 if true, then presti is more chance / less skill than currently presumed

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Keith00    Don't know if it's true, but the prevailing rumor is that the Thunder would have taken Thabeet if he had been available at #3. 

THUNDERCATS
THUNDERCATS 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @KeyserSo7e

 tony mitchell. freakish athleticism

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @THUNDERCATS  @KeyserSo7e isn't he more of a swing guy? I think we have that in Jones, I think we should stock up on bigs, and hope one pans out

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @Keith00  Oh yeah, I agree. Tough to come by minutes there. I think a 2 or a 4/5 interchangeable guy with Serge is a must. The big guy doesn't have to be a scorer either. A defensive lock down player, shot blocker. Or even an athletic guy who is good at guarding the PNR 

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @Mr_posey   @THUNDERCATS  @KeyserSo7e What I mean is where does he play on the Thunder. A SF/PF tweener isn't going to see many minutes.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @THUNDERCATS  @KeyserSo7e Where does he play?

tygablood
tygablood 5pts

@Keith00 @THUNDERCATS @KeyserSo7e North Texas...seems like a good bust candidate to me

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e

 we keep ther Tor and @nd rounder picks and

 

Draft : Len with the 5th pick

 

With our second rounder we draft a backup PG :Isaiah Canaan from  Murray St.?

 

 

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @KeyserSo7e  @nd Yeah, the PGs in this draft seem really week. Brown might be available, but he's pretty bad at scoring at all. Unless he becomes a lockdown defender this year, I would be skeptical. He looks like he's going to be a post-injury Maynor, all passing and nothing else.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @Keith00  @KeyserSo7e

They are,  thats why i focused on seniors with plenty of leadership skills and pass first thought processes 

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @nd I'm not sure about another point guard, we will have to trade some of them

tygablood
tygablood 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@KeyserSo7e @PerkPunt @nd Maynor is gone

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e

 Maynor wont get resigned. Just Russ,and Jackson this offseason

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e The current 4-6 players on Ford's board are Poythress, Len, and Gobert. Poythress doesn't really fit for us, as we don't have many minutes for a SF/PF behind KD-Ibaka. Len and Gobert make sense if we think we can ever get rid of Perkins. Both are huge, 7+ footers with crazy length good athleticism. Len is more skilled, Gobert is longer and more athletic.

 

We could pull something a little out of left field and get Goodwin (strong shooter/scorer) or Smart (big guard who can pass and handle the ball). Most likely, the players at the top of the draft will change by the end of the year. Ideally, I'd like a center.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @Keith00 I like Alex Len, to replace perk, cause i don't think Steve Admas will go for this draft

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e Assuming the top 3 are Zeller, Noel, and Shabazz.

 

Poythress and McAdoo would almost certainly not fit but would be intriguing. 

 

Steven Adams or Rudy Gobert would be nice. 

d21
d21 5pts

 @FreeFezzyFel/FreePerryandJeremy!!!  @KeyserSo7e alex len or rudy gobert

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e Add Tony Mitchell to the Poythress and McAdoo group

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