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Film Study: Backdoor Lob City

by Royce Young on December 18, 2012 at 2:27 pm 903 Comments

You can pretty much count on it: At some point during the Thunder’s 48 minutes on the floor, Russell Westbrook will find Kevin Durant on that subtle backcut lob. It’s an incredibly simple read and react thing between Durant and Westbrook, one of those plays that comes from knowing each other and having a mental connection.

My question is: Why does it always seem to work?

When you break down the play, it’s pretty clear the lob is just an improvisation off of the actual called set. The Thunder run countless pindown screens for Durant throughout a game and as Grant Long perfectly points out, at some point you can catch a defender cheating a bit and get him with a little backdoor move.

Two big keys to this play working:

1) Space

Look at all that room along the baseline. Both Thunder bigs — Perk and Ibaka — are 15 feet away from the basket. They’re setting up to set screens, but it also clears out opposing defenders.

And you’ll notice too how much room Westbrook has to throw the lob. That’s not an easy pass to put on target if he’s getting severe on-ball pressure. But he gets a pick from Serge Ibaka, and Tyreke Evans lazily gets through it and closes out without any urgency, leaving Westbrook ample amounts of space to throw it.

Spacing has been a massive focus for the Thunder this season and it’s been a pretty significant key to their offensive success. Wider passing lanes, more room to see, less traffic to play in. Spacing is great not just for shooting and one-on-one isolating matchups. It’s great for passing too.

2) Timing

Really, that’s all this play is. It’s an eye contact thing, where Westbrook and Durant connect and make that split second decision to go for it. What’s amazing, and I think this speaks to Westbrook and Durant’s incredible chemistry, is that they don’t screw this up all the time. I can’t think of too many times where Westbrook has thrown a lob to no one.

Westbrook delivers the pass perfectly on time, right as Durant gets John Salmons leaning the wrong way. There’s no time to recover at all.

You can’t blame Salmons. Because if you try and guess and cheat thinking this is coming, you’re going to be late trailing Durant around that pindown screen. And then he’ll drop one on you from 18 like it’s a layup. But if you’re picking your poison, you’d at least rather him have to shoot one from 18 than lay it in point blank.

It’s almost something that keeps the defense mindful. Get burned backdoor once and you’re not going to try and jump any pindown curls.

Honestly, I’ve watched this set roll now about 30 times, and the only ways I could recommend the Kings stop this is to sag much more off of Perk, who isn’t a jumpshooting threat from 20 feet, pressure the ball better and don’t overplay Durant. But that’s way easier said than done. Because when the Thunder execute this thing, it’s not easy to defend.

It’s pretty much a guarantee: They’ll get it once a game. So the new question I’m left asking is, why just once?

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BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

No one even likes you, Wednesday.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard sorry no one told you

 

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/wednesday-bolts-12-19-12/

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

The Thunder has announced that Kia is now the official automotive partner of the team. (via darnell)

 

Kia's are corny.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@Lost Ones I drive a Kia...you calling me corny?

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @Lost yes sell it immediately. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @Lost ITS A VASTLY SUPERIOR MACHINE

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcs8IwK-Co

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

"Comment From Rob Rob :  Which players on the Thunder are "untouchable" at the deadline?  Just the two or has Ibaka reached that level yet?

 Darnell Mayberry: Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, Perry Jones, Jeremy Lamb and Reggie Jackson. I might say Perk is in that group as well."

 

Quite a list of untouchables.  I'm shocked at Mayberry's list. Agree, disagree?

 

GO......

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PerkPunt I only look for Presti to make one small deal before the deadline. That being---to shore up another spot on the second unit. No way would I consider trading Nick, Thabo or Perk. No way...they are the defensive core of the team. The team has already gone through the transition of moving Harden...why do this again right before the playoffs? Darnell was probably just throwing something out there in the hopes of making it appear there is some NBA conversation actually taking place over at newsoksports.com. Maybe the lady boss or Mike Sherman told him to be more provocative. Who would know? Sigh. He outta just post over here so as someone would be reading his thoughts. No trying to be snarky---it is what it is.

 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @PerkPunt pretty much everyone is touchable outside of Durant westbrook and probably ibaka imo.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Lost Ones  @PerkPunt They are untouchable in the way that no trade could reasonably happen that they would accept, for that list, though maybe not reggie. but I am sure if the heat offered lebron for ibaka and perk, we would trade ibaka or some other insane trade

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @Lost Ones

 I'm just shocked at the thought of the Brookies and Reggie untouchable.  I'd be different if they made contributions now.  I just dont understand his logic

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @PerkPunt why? 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser  @PerkPunt spurs are in a tough position talent wise with age and $

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser  @Lost Ones  @PerkPunt We've been perturbed at the inactivity of this team before. Several people really wanted Chandler, and it's arguable we would have been better off having picked him up. Many of us were crying out for Jeff Green's head well before he was shipped out. And even now many people want Perk moved and an upgrade at C. None of these feelings were wrong, necessarily, but not all of them are going to be resolved.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PerkPunt  @Lost Ones Rookies are cheap, I guess, but I'd trade any of them before Thabo.

 

I also don't think Presti will be out looking for a deal this year, but I also don't think he'll turn down a good one if presented with it. All indications now are that Cleveland is asking a ransom for Varejao. Let's say the deals just aren't materializing like CLE wants and comes offering Varejao for the Toronto pick and cap fodder (Perk). It would be hard to say no.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lost Ones  @PerkPunt I read a little at Spurstalk or whatever this morning.  It seems they are perturbed at  the "grow and develop talent" internally and want a big trade. Now, I know that's not all Spurs fans, but we are modeled after them.  I wonder if there comes a day where we're all pissed off at our front office for not making a big trade and "developing internally".

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @Lost Ones

 If next season started and Reggie Pj3 and Lamb had to become major rotation players, I'd be very very scared.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @PerkPunt As a small market team i think this organization values rookies a lot.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @PerkPunt but i dont see this team making a huge midseason move after going 20-4.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @PerkPunt Nope.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Hopefully it will be in the bolts, but Justin Kubatko at ESPN makes the argument that KD is well above Melo for the early season MVP in today's Per Diem. Finally KD gets a little recognition.

 

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/PerDiem-121219/kevin-durant-not-carmelo-anthony-better-choice-early-season-mvp

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

There  isn't a Duh big enough for this article, but I'm excited that Justin Kubatko is writing at ESPN.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @Keith00

 I need free insider links again.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

@PerkPunt Here's the ending snippet:

 

Once again acknowledging the imperfection of the available data, there is nothing to suggest that Anthony has any kind of defensive advantage over Durant. In fact, the evidence points to Durant being the better defender.

 

Win shares is a statistic that attempts to summarize all of a player's accomplishments in a single number. Durant currently leads the NBA in both win shares (5.5) and win shares per 48 minutes (.280), while Anthony is 11th and 12th (3.0 and .204, respectively) in these categories.

 

None of this is meant to be an indictment of Anthony as a player -- it is an indictment of the primary argument being used to support him as MVP. Durant's clearly better season, coupled with the fact that Oklahoma City has the best record in the NBA, negates the "best player on the best team" argument. If you're looking for the MVP of the first eight weeks of the season, look no further than Durant.

 

Basically he brings up a bunch of stats to say what we already know; Durant does just about everything better than Anthony individually, and the Thunder are a better team too.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Kosta Koufos ain't about that life, Ty Lawson was about that life for a little bit then couldn't handle it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=E3bIQf57N_Q

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

Perry and Liggins to Tulsa via the regular people (royce and darnell)

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III

so,  the the gangs all there.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @OBoy Jones III i forgot lamb was still there we about to dominant tulsa.

DXL
DXL 5pts

Love what Martin does but you can't invest huge money into 30-year old shooting guards, especially a complementary player. When Martin got his last big contract for $12 million a year he was a much more dynamic offensive player, shooting 9 or 10 free throws a game. There's been a decline in athleticism, now he takes 4.5 free throws a game. This will get worse as age encroaches. If K-Mart is re-signed for 4 years, $40 million he's going to be a jump shooting specialist making $10 million a year at the end of his contract.

 

3 years, $21 million is as high as I would go. If K-Mart leaves for a bigger contract I believe Lamb can play a role next year. 

 

 

 

 

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @DXL Also, I think you're 'bending' the numbers a bit to suit your argument here.  FTA/g is a shoddy way to evaluate Martin compared to his Houston years since: A) he gets less minutes, B) he gets less shots.

 

Martin's DrawF% this year is far better than it was last year (15.8% vs. 10.6%), and not that far off his insane 2010-11 when he averaged 9+ FTA/g (16.8%).  His athleticism may fade a bit but it doesn't look like his foul drawing ability has gone anywhere.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @DXL This is also supported by Martin's FTA when Westbrook is on the bench.  In 267 minutes played without Westbrook, Martin is getting 8.8 FTA/36 which would be better than Durant and about on par with Harden on the season.  With Westbrook on the court he's more of that spot up shooter and averages far less.  It's clear to me so far that Martin has no issues getting to the line when that's his role.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @DXL I agree in general but Martin's a knock down shooter, Johnson kinda was sometimes, and Wade never was.  Martin on a three year contract wouldn't scare me all that much if he shows he can stay healthy this season.  We don't ask him to create a lot of offense and if he can shoot like this he's probably worth $10M a season.

 

There are cautionary tales though.  Rip Hamilton may be another.

DXL
DXL 5pts

 @justin_mia That's reassuring. It seems Martin still has enough in the tank, this year at least.

 

Still, 30 is a dangerous age for a perimeter player. Look at what's happening with Joe Johnson and Dwyane Wade. All of a sudden the free throw attempts and rebounding rates decline, signs of overall athletic decline. Both of those guys are not who they were a couple of years ago.

 

 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia  @DXL

 Wow that sixth man role really has set him up for success.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @DXL if they sign him to a 2 year deal i don't care how much it's for. If it's 3 or 4 years it needs to be under 10 per

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @DXL 3/21 is not going to get it done,  But I agree they should be careful about him especially considering his injury history.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @justin_mia  @DXL

 honestly, this team is one scary injury away from foricing its self to make a good trade.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @PerkPunt  @justin_mia  @DXL

Nah, I’d rather make a trade for utility reasons and not for need.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@PerkPunt @justin_mia @DXL and we aren't wishing for this....or are we...?

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DXL

 that is low bro. Maybe a team option contract will work best with him. 3/33 team option on year three would be fair.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@PerkPunt @DXL Agree. 3/21 is pretty low, but I get the point.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@DXL whew...first comment in roughly an hour. Thought the apocolypse happened early. relief.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Lots of action on here last night...

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Nice win last night Kennygee

Thunder S
Thunder S 5pts

Warriors are a nice story but theyre not physical enough to compete with the likes of us or memphis. we literally could post up every one of our starters against their starters. yes, even perk.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Thunder S they are a playoff first rd exit probably but for their recent years that is still a big success.

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @f5alcon  @Thunder S FREGS?

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderWins  @f5alcon  @Thunder S Something like that. :)

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I hope for our 4 days off before miami the team stays in okc, if they go to miami and party it will be a sloppy game.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @f5alcon Wait for it...........................................................wait.....................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Harden's no longer on the team..

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @PerkPunt it will be a bad christmas for miami strippers then,lol.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @f5alcon

 But the Houston skrippers will be living good!

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