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Monday Bolts – 12.3.12

by Royce Young on December 3, 2012 at 10:09 am 224 Comments

Terry Pluto of the Plain-Dealer speculating: “In the past, there has been a lot of trade talk about Varejao, but the Cavs never were real close to trading their 6-10 veteran. Their price has always been high — something like a lottery pick and perhaps other young players. The teams that treasure Varejao’s skills are contenders with low draft picks. That has not created suitable trading partners. It’s possible — with Varejao having a career season — that could change. Oklahoma City owns multiple picks, including a possible lottery pick that originally belonged to Toronto (protected for picks 1 to 3). You can imagine Varejao adding some lightning to the Thunder. But who knows if there will be a deal.”

Ian Levy of Hickory High looks at Westbrook’s post game: “He’s being smarter, using his physical attributes to his advantage better than he has in years past and making a conscious effort to take better shots. Fewer predetermined moves and more reading the defense. Fewer fade-aways, more going to the rim. He’s realized that his speed and quickness can be used to his advantage more when he faces his man up. He knows he can use his strength as more of a weapon when he’s trying to get to the rim and it becomes useless when he just fades away. His post game has been years in the making. It’s still in the making, frankly. He’s still shooting just 41.7%, so it’s not like he’s great yet. But he’s getting there, slowly but surely.”

Darnell Mayberry on Kevin Martin: “Since the 1985-86 season, there have been 170 occurrences in which players have scored at least 50 points, according to Basketball-reference.com. Martin is one of only two players over that span to do so on 22 or fewer shots. Willie Burton once dropped 53 with the Sixers on just 19 shots. Whenever you hear Martin described as an efficient scorer, that’s what writers and broadcasters, coaches and scouts, are speaking of. It’s a skill that’s every bit as much of a weapon as Martin’s sharp-shooting and something that has defined his career over much of the past eight seasons.”

Matt Moore of CBSSports.com has OKC as his team of the week: “Yes, most of it was on the back of their big game against the Bobcats, but Oklahoma City wound up beating teams by over 26 points per 100 possessions this week, and that included wins over Houston and Utah, who aren’t really pushovers. When you consider how well Charlotte’s played this year, that win actually looks more impressive. OKC has won five in a row, is 8-2 in heir last ten, and just a half-game back of the top spot in the West. What beard?”

From Elias: “The Thunder beat the Hornets, 100-79, and has won each of its last four games by at least a dozen points. It’s the longest such streak for the Oklahoma City franchise since November 2004, when the SuperSonics had a four-game streak.”

KD is No. 1 in NBA.com’s MVP rankings: “Durant is playing more minutes (39.3) than he has in three seasons, rebounding at a record clip (9.1), making plays (4.4 assists) like he never has before and still scoring a ton (26.6). Any lingering questions as to whether or not Durant’s game was still evolving have been answered. This is the only player with an all-around skill set to rival LeBron James. And his ceiling might even be a tad higher than that of the reigning MVP.”

Michael McNamara of Hornets 24/7: “If we look at the season as a whole, can we really say that Al-Farouq Aminu is any different than the player we saw last year. He had a couple of nice games at the beginning of the season because he got out into transition for easy buckets, but this Thunder team is a team that we will have to contend with for the next 5-10 years and when you watch the elite teams, you realize none of them have regular players or starters as flawed as Aminu. People think of Thabo Sefolosha as a defender, but he can hit the three, put the ball on the floor and create for others, and most importantly, he does not turn the ball over. The Thunder simply do not respect Aminu on the offensive end, and as a result the Hornets spacing is terrible when he is on the court.”

NBA.com power rankings have OKC fourth: “If we want to dissect Russell Westbrook every week, there isn’t much room for criticism of late. His shooting is still inconsistent, but his assist rate is way up from last season and his defense has been improved. Opposing point guards Kemba Walker, Jeremy Lin, Mo Williams and Greivis Vasquez combined for just 24 points on 9-for-31 shooting against OKC last week. Next up: Deron Williams.”

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OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop 5pts

lets go camp for the thunderstruck DVD

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

Steve Blake out 6-8 weeks. 

CDNBallJunkie
CDNBallJunkie 5pts

I think the Varejao trade idea was great. Send our Toronto pick (maybe Dallas too?) for Varejao and give us the chance to finally amnesty Perk? Makes sense.

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts

What are the odds Ibaka makes the all-star team? If he's leading the league in blocks, averaging >15ppg, and we have the best record at the AS break is there any way winning bias doesn't sway the coaches towards selecting him?

Crow
Crow 5pts

he should have a shot but i dunno the competition immediately

RWolverine
RWolverine 5pts

What about trading for Afflalo?

Crow
Crow 5pts

for? dunno is Hennigan really likes him. He did trade for him but that is not sufficient information to be sure.

tromeo143
tromeo143 5pts

I need some help... I have a group of Kids that got free tickets to go to the Thunder game on the 14th vs the Kings... Problem is they only can give us 20 the organzation needs 7 more tickets. if anyone wants more info on how they could help please email me... passionsports@passionchurch.tv

potatojoe22
potatojoe22 5pts

 @tromeo143 Why dont you ask your church members for help? 20 free tickets are pretty generous and the thunder are playing the crappy kings so the tickets are going to be cheapest price you will get all year besides when they play the wizards, thats probably why you got free tickets to that game in the first place cause nobody wants to see the kings play.

Crow
Crow 5pts

Perk: "check my win% since I have been here..."

 

2010-11 44% win, lower than any Thunder player except Ivey.

2011-12 56%, lower than all but 4 deep bench players.

2012-13 46%, lowest of any rotation player except Maynor.

Crow
Crow 5pts

It appears Thunders won 85-90% of time without Perk in 2011-12 and this season. A lag at 82games prevents a quick and precise answer. So either Perk and Presti get credit for keeping it close with him in or he doesn't really deserve a lot of credit for the team win%.

Crow
Crow 5pts

That was for Perk's time actually on the court. Of course the team wins much more without him.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @Crow Crow where do you get non-prior informed RAPM from?

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

http://godismyjudgeok.com/DStats/aspm-and-vorp/2013-aspm/

 

this is DSMok1's non-prior informed advanced statistical plus minus. it is all from the boxscore but weights the various stats based on a regression on the league to determine the average value of these stats in th eleague (not for specific player in his games). it doesn't have shot defense so the defensive data is not that strong, as is the case for all exclusive boxscore based stats. but it based 100% on this season.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow So there you have it. We lose when Perkins plays, we win when he sits. Yeah, definitely don't try to upgrade on that position.

Crow
Crow 5pts

If something else useful is available. I'll let you know. There have been other versions of APM in past years but not so far this season.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @Crow Yeah that's what I've been looking at.  I thought you had a resource for current non-prior informed RAPM.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

this is what is in public right now, a boxscore prior informed RAPM

 

 

http://stats-for-the-nba.appspot.com/

Crow
Crow 5pts

Don't have non-prior informed for this season right now. He might provide it later. Some folks have asked but he doesn't always respond to being pushed.

Crow
Crow 5pts

you want a specific player figure from last season or just wonderring in general?

Crow
Crow 5pts

Jerry took it down but I still have a copy at home.

Thunderucker
Thunderucker 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

forgive me if this is a repeat post: http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/powerrankings

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Thunderucker

 stein keeps us at 4... he's a dallas homer though

KellOne
KellOne 5pts

ahem...http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/perry-jones-iii-assigned-to-tulsa-66ers/

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Perkins has OKC-high eFG%, career high AST%, career low TOV%, career high ORTG.  His rebounding is somehow worse than last year, though.  11.6% TRB is worse than a lot of guards.  Wonder if he keeps those offensive numbers up.  

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @justin_mia

 I rather him get his RB% up then sustain those offensive numbers.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lost Ones  @justin_mia that requires being able to jump

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @f5alcon  @Lost Ones  @justin_mia well said

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @f5alcon  @Lost Ones  @justin_mia He'll get it. I'm all about the assists for him.

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @justin_mia

 i can see him keeping his ast #s up

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

I rather go after Peković for the pick and a player then Andy

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones Pekovic is going to be prohibitively expensive this offseason I'm guessing.  MIN probably wants to keep him and Love together.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @justin_miaThat's the only issue his future expense

 

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Lost Ones The ones that just traded a guy for money reasons?  I'm cautiously pessimistic.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @justin_miaYou have no faith in our owners?

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones Pretty big issue, no?

DXL
DXL 5pts

I don't think OKC can beat Miami in the Finals with Perkins. Adding Varejao gives OKC a much better shot, and probably makes them the clear cut favorite.

 

Championship windows are short. There's not going to be time to develop a bunch of young prospects. All those picks and prospects are assets to get OKC over the top. 

 

I'd trade some of the young assets for Tyson Chandler or Al Horford, too, but Varejao is the only top center who is a logical trade candidate. 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

 @DXLAre you going to post about anything else today?

DXL
DXL 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lost Ones Are your comments filler? Or would losing them blow up the blog?

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @D-MC  PREACH

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @cemitten  @DXL  @Lost Ones I'm already so sick of hearing about Varejao that nothing could sway me to want him on this team.

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @DXL  @Lost Ones popcornsmiley.jpg

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Dwight Howard Says Championship desire could lead him away from the lakers. http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2012/12/3/3721530/dwight-howard-lakers-championship-magic

Durienne
Durienne 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Lost Ones Here's a funny comment by a Laker fan in that article...

 

"He’s hardly played and he’s already complaining the same was when he was with Orlando. If I were the Laker’s management I would fire D’Antoni now and hire Stan Van Gundy. This is what Howard deserves.

He will never be a winner with his atitude. It’s never him, it’s always the other guys who are keeping him from a championship.

Give me Perk or Tyson Chandler any day in the week. We probably can’t get them, but I sure don’t want Howard here."

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts

 @Durienne  @Lost Ones is this..... real? please let this comment make its way to the bus family.. if you dont think dwight will resign, trade him for perk, he is a proven winner!

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Durienne  @Lost Ones Wait a cotton picking minute....they asking for Perk?

 

LOL . As I always say on this board...be careful of what you wish for.

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Lost Ones He should just sign one year deals every season and keep switching teams till he gets on a Championship roster... next year he will join the heat, then the thunder, the the Nets, etc etc... do it, Dwight! Cherry pick for that ring!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @RRRWHATEVER  @Lost Ones They should just hire stan van gundy as an assistant to motivate howard,lol

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @RRRWHATEVER  @Lost Ones

 Well if he wants a ring, the logical choice is OKC. 

MD4Okc
MD4Okc 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Lost Ones Damn! Already?

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