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OKC wins its ninth straight, topping the Hornets 92-88

by Royce Young on December 12, 2012 at 10:42 pm 406 Comments

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One Thunder streak ended Wednesday against the Hornets. But the most important one lived on.

Oklahoma City failed to reach at least 100 points for the first time in 12 games, but managed to win its ninth straight, 92-88 over a scrappy Hornets group.

To say this one was ugly would be like calling Kevin Durant a solid basketball player — a gross understatement. The Thunder were unfocused, sloppy, lethargic and uninterested. Just completely out of sync offensively. Now, it’s hard to keep clicking offensively at a high level and there will be nights like this. There are nights shots don’t fall, that the ball movement lacks. It’s about the final score and though this one was far from pretty, it achieved the desired result.

It was one of those games where you’re just waiting for the Thunder to snap out of their trance and explode on an 18-4 run or something. But they followed up a season-low 17 first quarter points with only 19 in the second quarter. The 36 points at half were a season low, but fortunately the Thunder had two things working in their favor: 1) They were only down eight and 2) they were still playing the Hornets.

The Thunder finally got their spark and it came with an unlikely sub. Scott Brooks unchained Reggie Jackson from the Gatorade cooler with about two minutes left in the third quarter and OKC down 10. He promptly drained a 3, played high energy defense and just like that, the Thunder ripped off a 15-2 run spanning the end of the third and beginning of the fourth to take control of the game.

“We needed something different,” Scott Brooks said about using Jackson. “We needed a change of scenery for this game.”

Now, not to minimize Jackson’s impact — because it was real — but there is a chance it was more coincidental than anything else. Brooks had resisted going small to match the Hornets who use Ryan Anderson as a stretch 4, but finally did it late in the third. The jolt didn’t officially come until Jackson subbed in for Russell Westbrook, but OKC going small had as much to do with it as anything else. Nick Collison at the 5, Durant at the 4 and three guards (Maynor, Jackson and Martin) left the Hornets battling against OKC’s speed and quickness. The Thunder switched everything, jumped in passing lanes and hawked over New Orleans’ ball handlers.

It’s something I hope to see more of though. I can understand why Brooks would be so reluctant to go to Jackson in exchange for Maynor. But there’s real talent on the Thunder bench. Just inserting young players like Jackson, Jeremy Lamb or Perry Jones III doesn’t always work. What often does is a situation like tonight where a guy gets to come in and try and do something. Confidence grows, in both Brooks and the player. Spot those guys some minutes here and there and who knows, you might stumble upon a quality rotation guy. The Thunder are only playing nine now, sometimes eight depending on Hasheem Thabeet. There’s a little room for playing time out there to be had.

“You just got to stay ready,” Jackson said. “Of course it’s tough, but once you get out there, especially in this atmosphere, it’s easy to get going.”

It wasn’t finally over though until Greivis Vasquez’s 3 clanged off the iron into Thabo Sefolosha’s hands. Down two with eight seconds left, Monty Williams made the wise decision to go for the win. The first option was shut down by Perk as Anderson flashed to the corner. Fearing a trap he kicked out to Vasquez who threw up an awkward heave, which of course every Thunder fan thought was going in, because they’ve seen it go in before.

Win streaks get harder with time, just because they tend to end. I don’t remember too many 61-game win streaks. Nine straight is very good, any way you get it. An 18-4 record is pretty to look at. But that doesn’t mean the path to it was all that attractive.

NOTES:

  • OKC beat the Hornets by 15 and 21 in the first two meetings and survived by four tonight. Lesson: It’s hard to blow a team out three times. Especially when they change their name in between.
  • For as boring and terrible as this game was, it kind of got good there in the fourth quarter. Exchanging buckets, some knockdown shots, some good plays. Pretty fun.
  • Nick Collison played one of those outstanding six-point, five-rebound games. You just want to yell at the box score once it’s over because it’s not fair to Collison.
  • Kevin Martin was really struggling from the floor, but stayed aggressive with his shot. And it paid off as he knocked down two big corner 3s in the fourth quarter. He started the game 3-10 for just nine points but finished 5-12 for 17.
  • Kudos to Brooks for sitting down what wasn’t working and flexing on his bench a little. Nick Collison was playing terrific and instead of going back to Perk as his 5 in the smallball group, he rode Collison for most of the way. The sub using Perk on that final Hornets possession was smart too because it was obvious they were going to Anderson for the win and Perk has a little more length to combat Anderson shooting over the top of him. And he’s smarter than Ibaka.
  • Jackson said he had no idea he was going to be part of the game tonight. “If you notice, I think [Brooks] probably called it a few times and I was just kind of grounded and stuck on the bench. I thought I heard my name but I wasn’t really sure.”
  • The Thunder shot 11-36 (30.6 percent) in the first half. They shot 20-35 in the second (57.1). That’s a little misleading though because the third quarter mostly stunk too. OKC hit only 8-18 in the third, but in the fourth, found the touch going 12-17.
  • Jackson got lost a few defensive possessions and Brooks wisely subbed him for the last 2:56. Overall though, he was pretty good. His intensity was terrific and he clearly was doing his best to take advantage of the opportunity. Does it mean that he’s now automatically a regular? Likely not. But it does mean that Brooks will probably look to him again if he’s searching for a spark. Like I said, this is often how you find help from the end of your bench.
  • OKC doubled up the Hornets at the free throw line, taking 32 freebies to 16.
  • In the first half, Martin had the ball on the wing with Durant posting against Vasquez. KD was calling for the ball but Martin, for whatever reason, fired a 3 over the top. It missed and on the way back down the floor, Durant had a very words to say to Martin about it.
  • Important: Serge Ibaka was allowed to sniff the ball following free throws tonight. He didn’t have to wrestle it away from the ref.
  • There was a jumbotron proposal tonight. She said yes.
  • Brooks was visibly frustrated with Westbrook not getting back on defense late in the fourth. Westbrook drove the lane and tried to kick out to Durant for 3 but threw it away. He stopped and dropped his arms to his side as the Hornets broke out. Brooks was screaming for Westbrook to get back, but by the time he did it was too late as the Hornets were drilling a 3.
  • Austin Rivers isn’t bad at beating his man. He just has no idea what to do once he does it. He reminds me just a little of Westbrook his rookie season, except without the explosiveness and athleticism.
  • Remember that one time everyone cared about the Hornets coming to OKC? I feel like 70 percent of the crowd totally forgot they used to play here. Makes me miss the good old days with Boki Nachbar and Speedy Claxton.
  • Only 11 turnovers for OKC tonight.
  • The PA guy seemed to really try hard to bring some serious energy in the starting lineups tonight. Almost like he was trying too hard. Also, he pronouncd Xavier Henry’s name, “Zavia.” Which was fun.
  • The crowd was very late arriving tonight and pretty weak until the fourth quarter. At tipoff, it was the most empty seats I can remember seeing in a long time. I mean, the arena was probably 90 percent full, but for Thunder games, it was noticeable.

Next up: Kings at home on Friday.

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Thunderucker
Thunderucker 5pts

Nice to see people finally picking up on the ball movement story. Very few will remember but I've been in here singing the praises of the Harden trade (even when it was highly unpopular to do so) because of many reasons, but one in particular--ball movement. We died in the finals because of lack of ball movement. We beat three fossilized teams before that only because our athleticism against older teams compensated for our lack of ball movement. Sooner or later, the iso Harden, the iso Westbrook, the iso Durant (with end of game exceptions for Durant) had to change. The next step was to grow up in this area. Thankfully, Westbrook did grow up this year. Thankfully, Durant is simply who is is--teachable, brilliant, and a freak of skill. Thankfully, Harden got what he wanted, only with another team--his money. I know Harden's assists are up this year and I've gone rounds with people on this--it is because the offense runs through him so for most possessions, Harden should receive an assist, points, or a turnover (very few possessions should leave his stat line empty). 

 

Harden's departure made us better. Good enough to win the finals? Who's to say? There may be a better team at that time of the year. As for self-comparison, we are better than our former selves (there are other factors--smarter, older, olympic bball experience, the bitter taste of finals gone bad, etc.) because of ball movement.

Thunderucker
Thunderucker 5pts

...and let me clarify, I've never said Harden was bad or average. I've always said he was good. For us, however, due to his role (working with the second unit whereby he knew he'd have to take charge), he learned to be a black hole on offense--the ball would stop with him. The occasional PnR with Collison accounted for some assists, but Collison could run a PnR with freakin' Shaq and be successful (it's Collison's forte, not necessarily Harden's indomitable prowess).  

thunderinthuckotash
thunderinthuckotash 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

New Bolts: http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/thursday-bolts-12-13-12/#more-23318

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

I know I am in the minority in this but there is something about Magic Johnson that I really dislike.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@BallSoHard nancy Lieberman gets on my nerves.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

The Thunder and the Spurs remain the only teams in the league to have a flawless record versus teams under .500 (both 11-0). And every team in the league has won at least one game against a team over .500.

 

#Stats!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas Last year we lost 4 games to under .500 teams out of our 19 losses

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

Interesting 5on5  they asked who should be in the HoF : AI, Vince Carter, T-Mac, Wallace , and Hill ?

 

Of those i say only AI and Hill (ncaa career)

AIaska
AIaska 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@PerkPunt I read that yesterday. I think T Mac definitely deserves it. Vince kinda deserves it too, In a different way. I mean he's the best dunker ever... Kinda legendary

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @PerkPunt

 That's like whose who list of 'what coulda beens'

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Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @ThaboThabeetThunderrr you sure do write and erase a lot of posts man.

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Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @ThaboThabeetThunderrr he only says "continue to improve" because he/she's a Maynor homer.. saying that he "will improve" means he's at rock bottom, as opposed to continue to improve which means he's made some strides.  No worries bro.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThaboThabeetThunderrr You mean continue to improve

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Scottie Pippin to star in own reality show, titled "Big Pippen". Oh boy.

Zach99
Zach99 5pts

I might watch this.  I have too many functional brain cells as it is.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @BallSoHard Just set my dvr

BrockSuede
BrockSuede 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @BallSoHard Not real. Please be not real

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@BrockSuede http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/13/scotty-pippen-to-star-in-his-own-reality-show-were-sorry/

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @BrockSuede

 Not surprisng.  His wife is on one of those real housewives shows

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

Did justin accidentally coin 'long arms of the law' as RJ's nickname? Ha

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

How long until we see and 2nd unit of Jackson, Lamb, KMart, Collison, Thabeet?

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @okcjim During practice

okcjim
okcjim 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OkcBaby

 Jackson looked good yesterday but he still has a lot to prove. 

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OkcBaby  @okcjim Will you leave when Maynor leaves?

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @D-MC  @okcjim Cute kitten

okcjim
okcjim 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @D-MC  @OkcBabyEasy now

 

AIaska
AIaska 5pts

@okcjim I think Jackson will be the 2nd unit guy next year.. Not sure about lamb

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

 @AIaska  @okcjim

 I'm hoping next year the 2nd group is Jackson, Lamb, Martin, PJ3 and Collison.  Hopefully PJ3 and Lamb make a nice first to second year improvement.

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

After KD's rookie season, did anyone expect him to rise to the level he is now?  

dead13mau5
dead13mau5 5pts

 @cemitten actually i did!!!

twistdov
twistdov 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @cemitten Not to this extent, no. I have notied that his detractors don't bitch about "how skinny he is" anymore

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @twistdov  @cemitten he's not getting manhandled like he used to. *see MWP from a couple years ago*

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 11 Like

we are on pace for a 67 and 15 season.  Makes you marvel at the 72 win season...

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @cemitten My bold prediction of 70-12 still stands!

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Tronchaser  better make it through the rest of the month without a loss, the at miami game is probably the toughest

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @D-MC  yeah they had a ortg of 115.2 and a drtg of 101.8, both 1st in the league. We are close at 111.0 and 100.3

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @f5alcon  @Tronchaser Amazing how an old Ron Harper, aging but still awesome Michael Jordan, primed Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, and Luc Longley led that team to such a great record.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @cemitten yeah, it would be so hard to do that ever again, they didn't get their 4th loss until the 45 game of the season.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

 That's crazy.

 

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

You guys will get to see your favorite players next game.  Fredette and Demarcus

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts

 @OkcBaby Depends on who you mean by "you guys."

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

100 point streak was snapped.  Oh well least we got the win

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

Getting sick of ppl saying Melo is current MVP

BrockSuede
BrockSuede 5pts

 @BallSoHard The Knicks are getting wins with Melo and Fatty Felton. We have KD and Westbrook. MVP all the way for Melo at this point. He is turning chicken sh!t into chicken salad.

Zach99
Zach99 5pts

 @BrockSuede  @BallSoHard Yeah because Jason Kidd, Tyson Chandler, J.R. Smith, Steve Novak are a bunch of scrubs.

 

There's a freaking ton of talent on that team.  Jason Kidd is shooting freaking 52.4% from 3!  Tyson Chandler is shooting 69.8% from the field!

 

Let's give Melo all the credit and ignore the fact that Durant is just plain, unequivicably better than he is. 

Zach99
Zach99 5pts

 @BrockSuede  @BallSoHard Doesn't change the fact that KD is a better player on the best team in basketball.

 

Also we traded James Freakin' Harden probably one of the top 20 players in the league and haven't missed a beat.  Pretty good story there too.

BrockSuede
BrockSuede 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Zach99  @BallSoHard But he's not being overshadowed by those guys. He's a standout among guys shooting ridiculous numbers. He's still top MVP because of that. Also, the whole "New York is back" story line will surely keep his name at the top of the list.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @BrockSuede  felton is playing well this year, losing a small child in weight helps

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @BrockSuede  @BallSoHard

 By that logic, Lebron shouldn't have won last year

tomkar98
tomkar98 5pts

 @BallSoHard KD is the rightful MVP of the first quarter, so far.  Some "analysts" have agreed with this.  Others have not.

MostJadedGamer
MostJadedGamer 5pts

 @tomkar98  @BallSoHard

 I am a Thunder fan, and I don't agree with that.

 

Melo 1, and Durant 2 at this point.

tomkar98
tomkar98 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @MostJadedGamer  @BallSoHard 2012-13 Regular Season(Stats):

 

KD: GP 22, Min/G 39.6, FGM/G-FGA/G 8.7-17.2, FG% .508, 3FGM/G-3FGA/G 1.5-3.6, 3FG% .430, FTM-FTA/G8.3-9.3, FT% .893, Reb/G 8.5. APG 4.3, BLKPG 1.4, STLPG 1.5, TOPG 3.2, PPG 27.3

 

Melo: GP 19, MINPG 36.3,  FGM-FGAPG 9.5-20.4, FG% .465, 3FGM-3FGA/G 2.5-5.6, 3FG%.449, FTM-FTA/G 6.3-7.8, FT% .804 Reb/G 6.6, APG 2.1, STLPG 0.6, BLKPG 0.9, TOPG 2.8, PPG 27.7

 

W/ Advanced Stats thrown in:

 

KD:  TS% .642, AST(Ratio) 14.8, TO(Ratio) 11.2 USG 26.2, ORR 2.3, DRR 21.3, RebR 12.8, PER 28.04, VA(Value Added) 228.0 EWA(Effective Wins Added) 7.6

Melo:  TS% .583, AST 7.2, TO 9.7, USG30.6, ORR6.1, DRR 15.4, RebR10.5, PER 25.32, VA152.4, EWA 5.1

 

KD has mostly better regular and advanced stats.  Melo is better on the offensive glass. KD is better on the D-Glass and better overall rebounding ratio.  Mello has a much higher usage ratio, and is less effective/efficient than KD.  KD's per is better than Melo's by 2.72pts.  KD adds 2.5 more wins on a BETTER team.  Meaning KD adds more win on a team that has "more talent" as some people are saying.  Wouldn't you think, that if Melo was "MVP" that he would/should be more effective/efficient while "adding more wins" than KD, since Melo is on a "Lesser team"?

 

I mean, we were trying to make the case about KD for the past 2 years that KD should be MVP because he is the best player on the team and without him we wouldn't be able to make the playoffs, or at the very least, no HCA.  If thats the case, and KD didn't get the MVP, then shouldn't melo's number be better then KDs?

Zach99
Zach99 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

This position is not defensible by any reasonable metric.  KD is a better player on a better team. 

 

I posted the stats down lower in this thread so I won't do it again, but KD is more efficient, rebounds better, assists better, has more steals and more blocks.  Most of the non-scoring stats are SIGNIFICANTLY in Durant's favor too.

 

His team has a better record in a tougher conference.  I would love to hear how you defend your position, because to me the only argument is "I like Melo better".

MostJadedGamer
MostJadedGamer 5pts

 @BallSoHard

 At this point I think he is the current MVP. It an amazing turn around from last season for the Knicks, and melo has been playing amazing.

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Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @BallSoHard Sorry but he's gonna get it if they keep this up..

 

KD would get it if OKC wasnt into this team basketball passing the ball sorta thing. LOOOOOOOOOOL... Sorry

MostJadedGamer
MostJadedGamer 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @<--Not About Dat Lyfe  @BallSoHard

 No he wouldn't.

MostJadedGamer
MostJadedGamer 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @BallSoHard

 Not the NY hype machine Melo, and the Knicks have been absolutely amazing, and far better then anybody could have expected. Give credit where credit is do.

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