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Thunder roll over the overmatched Hornets, 100-79

by Royce Young on December 1, 2012 at 9:42 pm 1,309 Comments

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It’s always a positive sign when the top storyline entering the fourth quarter is, “When is Perry Jones going to check in?”

On the second night of a back-to-back, the Thunder steamrolled the young Hornets, 100-79 and did it with the starters resting the entire fourth quarter.

The Hornets weren’t exactly hanging tough, but they were hanging around just enough to keep Oklahoma City’s starters in the game. But a late third quarter flurry from Russell Westbrook pumped the lead to 27 entering the fourth, and officially initiated the PJIII Watch.

Now, the Hornets aren’t exactly good. They’re not even average without Anthony Davis and/or Eric Gordon. But they are an NBA team with NBA players, officially speaking at least. (Who is Brian Roberts? Who knows, but he’s in the NBA, which makes him an NBA player.)

And considering the circumstances — those being the Thunder coming off a pretty rugged game last night — I’m pretty impressed with this performance. Not only did the Thunder win, they did it convincingly. There was absolutely no letdown, no lapse in concentration, no lack of energy. The Thunder showed up and established their authority over an overmatched side.

Remember last season how many games the Thunder seemed to have to win in the last five or six minutes? A lot of games were close and while the Thunder proved themselves to be great closers, they’re asserting themselves as the dominant team a lot more this season. Which is very nice to see.

The schedule finally turns and gets a bit tougher with games against the Nets, Lakers and Pacers up next. But there is something to be said for not only taking care of business against teams you’re supposed to, but doing it with a little authority. The Thunder are in a serious groove and while questions will be raised with the next loss, it’s extremely apparent that there hasn’t been some kind of massive drop-off after the trade.

Really, the Thunder look a little bit better it seems night after night. A little more flow, a little more understanding and a little bit better chemistry. Saturday’s game was the kind where there wasn’t anything all that significant to gather because there wasn’t exactly an intriguing matchup or real challenge from anywhere. Except for the Thunder competing against themselves. Because that’s really who you’re playing against a lot of times, especially when you’re matched against an overwhelmed opponent.

That’s now five in a row, the second five-game winning streak this season for OKC. Again though, this upcoming week will reveal new things about this team. One way or the other.

NOTES:

  • The Thunder now 5-0 second night of back-to-backs.
  • Kevin Martin and Nick Collison have very clearly developed some quality chemistry.
  • It’s got to be pretty good being a garbage timer for the Thunder. You actually get pretty decent minutes.
  • Attention: Perk looked solid again. On both ends. He’s been active on the glass, has actually been plausible on the offensive end and looks swifter than I can remember. He’s getting a little more lift on his hook shots and tip in attempts. That’s back-to-back double-digit games for Perk. He only did that once last season and hasn’t had three straight double-digit games since 2010 with the Celtics.
  • Clutch 3 by Eric Maynor with 20 seconds left to give OKC 100 points an extend the Thunder’s century-mark streak to nine games.
  • For shame it was DeAndre Liggins and not Jeremy Lamb called up today.
  • OK, so Russell Westbrook for real got hit in the face tonight. Xavier Henry caught him with an inadvertent elbow and bloodied Westbrook’s lip.
  • Westbrook seems to be more into the defensive end than I can ever remember. He’s really trying to wreak havoc out there. The gambling is great when it works.
  • Eric Maynor was pretty solid tonight creating good looks for his second unit buddies. He drove multiple times on the baseline and found an open teammate a couple times. He had four assists tonight, equaling his season high.
  • What’s happened though to Maynor’s mid-range pull-up game? That was a real point of strength for him but now, it seems Maynor tries to take everything a step or two too far. He’s really trying to rely on that awkward off-balance floater, and it’s just not working. He needs to get back in the pick-and-roll and feel pockets of space a little more and not be afraid to pull up from 15.
  • You think when Sixpence None the Richer came up with “Kiss Me” that they knew they just wrote the all-time Kiss Cam song?
  • Martin gets great elevation on his jumper. And he has to, with that release point.
  • Al-Farouq Aminu just looked lost. He looked like that guy in your Saturday pickup game that’s almost always out of control and taking wild shots.
  • You could say the same thing for Austin Rivers too.
  • Serge Ibaka had his weakest offensive output since opening night against the Spurs. Just five points on 2-7 shooting. But he only got 23 minutes, of course.
  • That KD behind-the-back move to setup a no-look to Thabo. Whoa.
  •  Westbrook picked up his eighth double-double of the season. He had seven all of last year.
  • Brian Davis Line of the Night: “I think he put a little bit of nasty in that jambalaya he served up there.”

Next up: At Brooklyn Tuesday.

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erics
erics 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/monday-bolts-12-3-12/

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @erics Move it!~

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

i think Luke Ridnour would be perfect for this team.  ill start the campaign now.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

problems are his contract is 4mil wit htwo years left ...... he cant shoot the three.  #falsehopes.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @#sheem Are you going to the OKC/BRK game????

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @Tronchaser I'm in there like swimwear!

 

I bought my ticket a long time ago. I'm ready to rep my team!  LOOOOOOOL

 

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @#sheem  @Tronchaser Justin will be there, too, I believe. 

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @ThunderChick2010  @Tronchaser  @Jooseppi I'll bring my friends along to start a Justin Hug fest

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @#sheem  @Tronchaser  @Jooseppi 

Yeah, he likes to be hugged by strangers.  :)

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser  @Jooseppi I'll try to get one of us hugging. LMAO.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @#sheem  @Jooseppi A Tricia/Justin picture would be worth a lot on this board!

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Jooseppi  @Tronchaser HAHA...I need to find out where he's sitting. That way I can a picture right before we start to argue about James Harden and be escorted out of the arena. LOL jk jk

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @#sheem Wear that Hasheem jersey with PRIDE!

 

#TeamHasheem

DXL
DXL 5pts

Varejao is clearly the best center in the NBA right now. He leads the league in rebounding. His PER is 8th best in the league, he's Value Added is 5th best in the league. It would be a travesty if he doesn't make the All-Star team.

 

OKC right now is playing like the best team in the NBA (#1 in Hollinger Power Rankings). Delete Perkins, the least productive starting center in the NBA, and add the best center in the NBA = a Championship. 

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DXL Varejao maximizes his individual skills better than any other center in the league. But is he as skilled as the Gasols, as dominant as a healthy Dwight or Bynum? I would tend to disagree. But I do see your point from a Thunder perspective. Varejao does everything we desire from a C at an elite level. Defender? Arguably the best in the league, especially against PnRs. Rebounder? Leading the league in volume and efficiency. Offense? Efficient, but not a creator, hits his foul shots. All of these things make him ideal. We need a starting C who can start in all situations. We need a C that won't torpedo the offense, but that won't demand too many touches either.

 

If Cleveland opens the trade lines (which honestly they don't have much reason to do, he's signed through 2015), there's not a good reason to ignore making an offer. Of course, what we can offer is very limited. We would have to include Perkins to make the money work (for both teams, Cleveland is well below the salary floor next year), and the only way to make that work is likely to offer the Toronto pick. Is that enough? It should be. Is it worth giving up a possible top 6 pick? It should be. Varejao makes us the favorites right now and likely for the next two years.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @Keith00  @DXL Yall just look at the stats. Stream their games man. LOL...be happy with what you have. You dont need anything more.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @#sheem  @DXL Have you not watched Varejao play? He's a dominant defender and rebounder.

 

As for happy with what we have, why? If the opportunity presented itself to improve, wouldn't it be stupid not to try? Perkins is not a very good player overall. Maybe we can win with him, but why be anchored down with him if we have the pieces to do something more?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DXL our hollinger ranking is skewed because of the blowouts, we are beating the teams we should be, all of our losses are against playoff teams, but clippers are our only big win until tomorrow.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @f5alcon  @DXL All 4 loses are to teams in the top half of the power rankings.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DXL  I don't have a problem with his system, but it skews early in the season, like last year when portland was ranked #1

DXL
DXL 5pts

 @Tronchaser  @f5alcon Hollinger rankings tone down the variance. There's a measure of luck in close wins or close losses.

 

But NBA history says that a strong average margin of victory is the best indication of a team's true strength and how deep a playoff run it can go on.

 

Anyway, debate Hollinger if you don't like his ranking system.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

It's not that easy, bro.  If it were, the Lakers would be dominating everyone right now.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DXL stop it at your very first sentence. 

DXL
DXL 5pts

 @#sheem Show me an NBA center who's playing better. Choose any statistical measure you like. Varejao is clearly the best this year. That's undeniable.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @TonyMitchellForPresident13  @#sheem  @DXL We picked up Perk coming off serious injury which he has NEVER recovered from. I don't buy that his crappy play has anything to do with moving out of the East.

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

 @#sheem  @DXL Varejo's numbers may be inflated by the East, but let's not be completely dilusional. Perk is very obviously, definitely, worse since coming here.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @PerkPunt  @#sheem How much would his numbers dip? His defense isn't going to get worse, which is his primary skill. His rebounding MAY dip, but should we really expect it to crater? Why? Is his ability to properly position himself going to go away? Is he going to suddenly not be as tall or long? Don't we create a LOT more defensive rebounds than the Cavs? Maybe he will compete with more decent rebounders, but again, a LOT more defensive rebounds to be had.

 

Also, #sheem, Varejao is not a scorer. He averages 11 shots per game this year because Cleveland has no one else. His last highest shot average was 9 shots per game. That's only 5 more than Perkins has averaged here. That's not so hard to do with putbacks (Perkins is a terrible rebounder who misses on a number of these opportunities) and more minutes with the bench.

DXL
DXL 5pts

 @#sheem Varejao doesn't need touches. Cleveland doesn't run a play for him and he still scores. He gobbles up offensive and defensive rebounds and plays excellent defense.

 

None of what he does best means KD shoots less.

 

This "STOP" thing is overdone. Don't put it in every post, especially when you're losing the argument.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @DXL You dont get it.

 

Perk doesn't have to be any better than he is now with the make up of this team. You get a dominate center, he'll want more touches, more touches means KD shoots less. Do you really need that?

 

STOP

DXL
DXL 5pts

 @#sheem Stop it with your last sentence, bro.

 

Perk's play hasn't been worse since he tore his ACL? Since his productive run winning a championship with Boston? Ridiculous.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @#sheem   no doubt that his numbers would dip

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @#sheem  @DXL East coast wisdom right there. lol

Fisha Status
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 @DXL Cleveland is ranked 3rd from Last in the Eastern Conference. I repeat, the Eastern Conference. He averages 15/15. Meaning that his team misses a whole lot and he gets a whole lot of put backs. Its the Eastern Conference bro!

 

Don't let his numbers fool you. Its a different kind of game over here. We dont have great shooters like the West. Thats why Perk's numbers seem to have dipped since coming here from the Celtics. He's not worse, the TEAM is better. 

PNT
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What are the odds that we see KennyGee on the board today? Not good I'll bet. The Lakers were embarassing last night.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @PNT they can always just hope it is like when the heat first got together and started 9-8 and made the finals, but they are not as good as that team

anonymous12345
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 @f5alcon  @PNT

 The only other team worth a damn in the east that year was Chicago.  LAL would have to go through OKC, SA, and Memphis to get to the finals.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @areayewhy he was referencing what I was talking about 3 years ago, not this year.

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts

 @anonymous12345  @f5alcon  @PNT I think brooklyn has a good roster, but i'm not sure if d-will will stay healthy through the season and playoffs.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PNT OMG...yooo...i went to sleep thinking the Lakers had this in the bag.

 

I woke up and was like DAYUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUM

ThunderGunner
ThunderGunner 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

"Is all hope lost? I still believe we can go 71-9. We have the greatest basketball player in Kobe and the greatest Center in the nba. Chin up y’all! Lakers 2013 Champions, you can bet on that!"

 

My favorite post on the lakers blog just for its sheer arrogance 

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderGunner

 sounds like sarcasm to me. i hope at least.

DXL
DXL 5pts

Carmelo trade return for Denver: Gallinari, Felton, Mozgov, Chandler, Knicks 2014 first round pick, and a couple second round picks.

 

If very good player like Varejao comes on the market then OKC clearly has the picks and young prospects to get a deal done. 

 

Houston traded Kyle Lowry straight up for the Toronto pick. Lowry's a very good NBA player (21.95 PER this year). That is what the Toronto lottery pick is worth: one very good NBA player.

PNT
PNT 5pts

 @DXL

 A productive point guard is worth a lot less than a productive center. Scarcity is a big issue.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

We do we play the knicks? Durant has to Embarrass Carmelo statistically cause he will be the frontrunner for the media.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones forget about Personal stats. 

 

Just make sure they beat the Knicks period. 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @#sheem  @Lost Ones Just win baby - WIN!

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

what would it take to get Luke Ridnour? Maynor (expiring) + dallas pick?

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

 @PerkPunt

 They'll be looking to move Barea not Ridnour

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @anonymous12345

 although he might be a good fit in what we need out of the backup. i just dont like him nor his contract.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @anonymous12345

 no to Barea.....

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PerkPunt

 Obviously.  I'm just saying, they'll want to keep Ridnour because he's better and cheaper than JJ 

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

@PerkPunt If that. Maynor plus a second rounder or our Late first rounder would probably be enough

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