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Thunder vs. Heat: Pregame Primer

by Royce Young on December 25, 2012 at 3:41 pm 1,565 Comments

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OKC Thunder (21-5, 7-3 road) vs. Miami Heat (18-6, 13-2 home)

TV: ABC (Cox 8, HD 705)
Stream: Click here
Radio: WWLS The Sports Animal (98.1 FM, 640 AM, 97.1 FM Tulsa)
Time: 4:30 CT

Offensive Rating: Thunder – 113.1 (1st), Heat– 111.6 (3rd)
Defensive Rating: Thunder – 103.6 (10th), Heat – 105.0 (13th)
Pace: Thunder – 92.1 (13th), Heat – 92.4 (9th)

View from the enemy: Heat Index

The last time the Thunder played on this floor, well, you know what happened the last time the Thunder played on this floor. Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and James Harden defiantly stood together with a very “never again” kind of look. Unfortunately, one of those guys has been removed from the equation, but that doesn’t remove the feeling of regret and remorse for what happened in June.

You simply can’t erase something like confetti falling on your head as your opponent celebrates a championship. It changes you. And so far, the Thunder are better because of it.

Revenge in the regular season really means very little. I honestly don’t think you can get anyone back, unless it’s in the postseason. Winning today doesn’t change anything that happened in the Finals. It doesn’t mean the Thunder won Game 6. But it sure would feel better than losing.

Especially with the Thunder coming off a loss in a game that feels like it happened two months ago.

The Thunder have always been a tremendous bounce-back team, but most of the time, they aren’t bouncing back against a team like the Heat. On the road, too.

It’s a major challenge for the Thunder in front of everyone in what’s being dubbed the game of the year. It has the hype. Will it live up to it?

Miami coming in: The Heat topped the Jazz on Saturday.

Three Big Things

1. LeBron and KD. The two best players in basketball going head to head. Obviously Shane Battier will check KD a fair amount and Thabo will have some time on LeBron. But mostly, it’s going to be these two head to head. What a present.

2. Russell Westbrook. He’s really the X-factor for OKC. The Heat don’t have anyone that really can guard him. They don’t have anyone to stay with him athletically. But Westbrook has to control himself, stay within the offense, play his game and avoid trying to avenge the Finals all on his own.

3. Perimeter Dee. The Heat punished OKC with their small lineup in the Finals, so we’ll see how much the Thunder and Scott Brooks learned from that. The Thunder have adjusted their offensive style some to play a little more Heat-ish, involving other pieces. But defensively, can Serge Ibaka defend the 3? Can Perk be effective guarding Chris Bosh? And if he’s not, will Scott Brooks stubbornly stick with him until the bitter end?

Tip at 4:30 CT. Go Merry Thunder.

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Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

brooks has to get lamb into the rotation before all-star break we need another rotational player.

TrippingBilly
TrippingBilly 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Christmas Song - I came to shed a little light on this darkening sea...

HookemKD
HookemKD 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

If I'm looking at this game from a Heat perspective I'm anything but satisfied. Westbrook went 5/19, the refs leaned towards Miami, Durant sat in the first half with foul trouble, and its fully apparent now that LeBron can't guard KD. Losing sucks, but the outcome doesn't really matter until June.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @HookemKD and KD cant guard lebron either

HookemKD
HookemKD 5pts

 @Lost Ones Sure, but Durant is the better scorer so I will say advantage Thunder on that one.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Lost Ones  @HookemKD our issue is that we can't double Lebron because he'll find an open man. They can double KD easier. We need a better plan on Lebron. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Lost Ones  @HookemKD how does that effect guarding Lebron?

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @HookemKD lebron could never guard KD, the issue is KD cant stay on the floor.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

knew that game at minn was no good 

Dicharden
Dicharden 5pts

Harden's having a nice Christmas

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts

houston's ball movement has been impressive

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

Me through the whole bull shi... game:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSAKHLbCUGk

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

Also, when I saw the Thunder took 30+ ft attempts and still lost

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

And when I saw Lebron asking for a foul, a Heat player on the ground, Perkins in the game etc

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

Anyone knows what was our pace in this game?

supreme35
supreme35 5pts

The Heat play a physical game and I think until our players mentally can take on that type of game without pressing we will continue to have problems with them. Even when we got steals we'd give it right back because Miami was physical and kept pursing. I feel like things like that get to our players.

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @supreme35 yep, we need to experience more games like this and learn to maintain our composure. there are going to be quarters and games where we're not getting calls and we can't make shots--we still have a ways to go. 

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supreme35
supreme35 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC I don't disagree but there are things in the Thunder control and a lot of the time they were not playing smart. They have to get to a point where mentally they can get over those things and go execute.

supreme35
supreme35 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC the pressing issue*

supreme35
supreme35 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC Brooks is definitely a big part of the problem. Perk should not start. It doesn't help our players with pressing issue if they have an uphill battle all game.

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

 @supreme35 Durant needs to learn how to be a ball hog

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 7 Like

Jones III is keeping it in perspective.

 

Perry Jones III ‏@Perry_Jones1

Blessed to dress out for a NBA game on Christmas Day @ American Airlines Arena http://instagr.am/p/TrJkuBivIk/ 

 

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts

 @Old Man Game  @Perry_Jones1 thats not a bad looking jersey 

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

Why can't we trade coaches in the NBA?  Can't we trade Brooks and a Ibaka for Greg Popavich?

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As Promised
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 @MisterJohnsonOKC Rick Adleman!  He is my first option, but he seems very committed to MIN.  But for Pop, once Duncan and the rest are gone, he can look to something similar, yet different!

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

Usually when we loss perk is the reason 90% of the time. even when westbrook goes 4-40 its not the reason we lose.

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

 @Lost Ones Shit.  He was the only one playing like he had balls in the first half.  Him, Martin and Collison had balls in the first half, the rest forgot theirs in the locker room

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

lose

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

There was one game against Miami when i wasn't mad at Perk. It was the 'Peake game last season. Gosh we looked so dominant in that game

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ILikePancakes Spo hadn't figured out his small lineup at that point and he played Joel Anthony a lot more against us. 

alvarex
alvarex 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ILikePancakes Miami was slow on their traps and switches.  Like they were against 25 other teams in the league.  That game woke them up and they've been energetic on D ever since.

I'm a Specialist
I'm a Specialist 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

4 points on 20% field goal shooting, 4 turnovers, 5 rebounds, and 1 crucial defensive blunder in 25 minutes for 8 million dollars.

 

 

alvarex
alvarex 5pts

For the next matchup I'd like to see some play calls specifically designed to break the trap.  I'm not basketball savvy to know of any, as passing out of the trap and ball-movement didn't work tonight as the Heat were excellent on their switches.  

 

I guess maybe going exclusively small so there is a shooter at every spot might be the only solution.

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

 @alvarex KD is almost freakin' 7ft tall!!!  I don't know why he just didn't stand up straight, and then Jump and then pass it.  He was always low, trying to guard the ball

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

I never like playing the Heat.  Durant always get's into foul trouble and Perkins is always playing more then Necessary!  Where was Thabeet?  He could have done much more and most likely stole the pass from Lebron to Bosh in the fourth with his outstreatched Navi hands!

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OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC atleast we lost to a good team and not the Hawks at home without Josh Smith

alvarex
alvarex 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @MisterJohnsonOKC Pshaw, what losers did that?!?!

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

 @MisterJohnsonOKC I don't like the Knicks, so I was rooting for the Lake show.

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @thelaughingwiseman  @MisterJohnsonOKC picking between the knicks and lakers is like weighing the merits of gonorrhea vs syphilis. 

yarkmu
yarkmu 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MisterJohnsonOKC clippers can still lose though

alvarex
alvarex 5pts

The officiating was pretty horrible, but we still had a shot down the stretch.  The only play that really upset me was that offensive foul against Battier by Durant that put him on the bench.  Losing him early really hurt.  And we might have been ahead in the 4th instead of behind.

CDSpark
CDSpark 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

After these laast two games, I just don't see how we are going to make it the playoffs.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CDSpark Trade KD for BJ Mullens, it's rebuilding time

alvarex
alvarex 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ILikePancakes  @CDSpark Trade KD for all the white guys on the Timberwolves.  Show that MidWest pride!

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts

Trade Perkins

 

Fire Brooks

 

Play Lamb

 

Draft Zeller

 

Don't feel like going through the comments, so I'm going to assume this is the gist of it

alvarex
alvarex 5pts

 @anonymous12345 *screw the refs

 

Figuratively, not literally.  We aren't that kind of kinky.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

The people behind the scoring table were probably scared shitless after that Russ slap lol

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

We don't need a defender to specifically defend Lebron. KD needs to score in different ways vs the Heat so he doesn't get offensive fouls and we'll be fine guarding Lebron with KD and Thabo. When we have problems is when KD has 3 or 4 fouls and someone like Nick or Serge has to try to cover him.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @OBoy Jones III Game was lost coming down the stretch. Too many blown rotations/calls and we couldn't overcome it all. I don't think the personnel on the roster was the problem as much as the personnel on the floor during stretches. Perk most notably. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game our defense was the problem most of the game but down the stretch it was pretty good. We needed stops because we couldn't score for a stretch.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Lost Ones  @Old Man Game we got 5 straight stops late in the 4th and only scored 3 points.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Old Man Game  @OBoy Jones III yes lol

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @Lost Ones  @OBoy Jones III Isn't that bad defense then?

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Old Man Game our defense was good but we allowed miami to get open buckets with slow rotations.

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III Gave up two easy ones to Wade at the rim. And then the bad one to Bosh. Blown rotations or just guys falling asleep.

I'm a Specialist
I'm a Specialist 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoy Jones III  @Old Man Game best way to get a stop, have Perk leave his man wide open under the basket to go doubleteam 5 feet away

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III the heat guards kd the same way they guard harden.

I'm a Specialist
I'm a Specialist 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lost Ones  @OBoy Jones III flop. undercut

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Perk90X  @OBoy Jones III he def needs to learn how to flop on those double teams.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lost Ones it has to do with how we iso post up durant. He always picks up atleast 1 offensive foul vs the Heat on those plays.

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lost Ones  @OBoy Jones III There has to be a way to guard LeBron, but when was the last time Scotty went with a gameplan against a specific team or player? I can recall only the WCF last year

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @ILikePancakes  @OBoy Jones III The best way to guard the heat imo is for KD to not allow lebron to go into the post which he does a great job against. the issue with that is KD is not a focused defender. oh yea and dont play perk. 

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