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Tuesday Bolts – 12.18.12

by Royce Young on December 18, 2012 at 10:28 am 96 Comments

David Thorpe of ESPN.com: “All three accomplishments came about because of the Thunder’s improved play on both ends of the court, and of course thanks to Kevin Durant, who is quietly trying to wrestle “Best Player in the World” status away from LeBron James. The reality is the Thunder are coasting through many of these games — easing to leads often, then fighting when necessary to finish the game. When they have stayed locked in from start to finish, the Thunder have embarrassed opponents.”

Ben Golliver of SI.com: “Ibaka is a nightmare cover for a Spurs’ frontcourt that has plenty of talent overall, just not the right skills to neutralize him consistently. Ibaka’s athleticism, length and leaping ability present a tough match-up for a vast majority of the league and San Antonio is no exception. Boris Diaw, DeJuan Blair and Stephen Jackson simply can’t compete athletically; Tim Duncan and Tiago Splitter stand a better chance but face other match-up issues if they play together and OKC goes small. Like teammate Russell Westbrook, Ibaka is at his most effective when he’s maxing out the relentless meter. That was the case here. He gets love for being able to hit the mid-range jumper, and he was 5-for-8 on jumpers, but he cleaned up inside too through dogged effort, with five baskets in the restricted area. Again, like Westbrook, Ibaka has the ability to wear on his mark and, as a game or series progresses, wear on the opposing team as a whole.”

Darnell Mayberry: [T]hings get tougher on the Thunder from here as 15 of the next 22 will come on the road. A three-game trip is on deck, starting at Atlanta and ending with the highly anticipated Christmas game at Miami. If the Thunder can successfully tackle these next three, OKC will be on a 14-game winning streak and 23-4 the next time it plays inside The Peake. It’s unbelievable what this team is doing right now. I think it’s safe to say we’re all getting pretty spoiled.

Twitter recap from 48 Minutes of Hell.

Shoals with a tweet I’m pretending I understand: “Durant’s complexity is in the relationship between style and personality, as opposed to the two illuminating their respective complexities.”

Kind of fun that the draft is relevant to the Thunder again. Here’s Chad Ford’s top 100. And here’s Jay Bilas: “Len will be a starting center in the NBA, and has the best potential as a pivot man in the league. A true 7-footer, Len has size and skill along with the best offensive game among centers available in this year’s draft. Len also has good hands, can pass out of the post and can face up and hit perimeter shots. He is a productive rebounder and shot-blocker, and is gaining strength and confidence in his first full season at Maryland. Len is a worthy selection at No. 1 this year.” Thunder draft Len, Daily Thunder makes Lensanity shirts. I can already see it happening.

Quick note: Look at the top six players on Ford’s big board: Noel, Len, Muhammed, Zeller, Poythress, Rudy Gobert. The Thunder are sitting pretty to get a top six pick right now. The Thunder could be landing an incredible young talent to add to this roster. Getting kind of excited about June, and not just because of the Finals.

From Elias: “Serge Ibaka scored 25 points, grabbed 17 rebounds and blocked three shots in the Thunder’s win over the Spurs. The last SuperSonics/Thunder player with that many points, rebounds and rejections in a game was Shawn Kemp on November 19, 1996. Kemp scored 26 points, hauled in 18 rebounds and swatted four shots for the SuperSonics in a win in Toronto.”

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Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

DRAFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sammasaaron
sammasaaron 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

That Shoals tweet is an example of word choice that flows off the tongue, but is nigh meaningless.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @sammasaaron It may mean something to him but it is meaningless to me. An example of a tweet that fails in its brevity.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @sammasaaron I guess one could argue that personality is innate and style is consciously selected on top of it but I wouldn't really.

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

 @Crow  @sammasaaron

 exaccccttttttly.

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/kd-on-lebron-russ-and-himself/#respond

Coletrain17
Coletrain17 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 23 Like

I heard they're considering changing the NBA logo, what are your thoughts on the new image?

 

http://i.imgur.com/sVWSU.png

RRRWHOAAAA
RRRWHOAAAA 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Coletrain17 Perk stole that move from Ibaka's buzzer beating 3 pointer a few games ago

cdub00
cdub00 5pts

 @RRRWHATEVER  @Coletrain17 Thats what i said.

 

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @RRRWHATEVER  @Coletrain17 

Oh, you mean this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFOFtPL1K2A

 

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Coletrain17 epic

Coletrain17
Coletrain17 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

Tweeted this to Royce (1 of my 7-8 lifetime tweets) and got a retweet. Today was a good day

duhsweetness
duhsweetness 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Coletrain17

That's just so good.

soonerfan237
soonerfan237 5pts

It seems everyone else is way more confident than me about us getting Toronto's pick this year.  It's top 3 protected.  Toronto is currently 4th from last, only 1 game ahead of New Orleans and 1.5 games ahead of Cleveland.  The Hornets will get Eric Gordon back soon.  The Cavaliers recently got Irving back.  They may both pass Toronto.  We could still get rescued by the lottery, but a high draft pick is certainly no lock.

 

That being said, it seems that the experts are expecting the 2014 draft class to be very special.  I almost wouldn't mind waiting an extra year to get one of those guys.

yayowulf
yayowulf 5pts

 @soonerfan237 I expect Toronto to improve. On paper, they should be better. They've had some injuries. Colangelo's job is on the line. I expect him to make some moves before the trade deadline. Still, I won't be surprised if they turn out to be the worst team in the league this season. They are the Raptors.

d21
d21 5pts

 @yayowulf  @soonerfan237 they had a tough schedule,they also played 15 games on the road 1-14. i would expect them to get better but as you said irving is back ,gordon is going to be back and john wall will be back.but you can always count on the kings to suck.

BallSoHard
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@soonerfan237 Don't mistake confidence in the Toronto pick with playing around with scenarios out of boredem.

Crow
Crow 5pts

I was somewhat surprised when Bryan Colangelo was not let go this past summer but I assume he will be next summer without some sign of improvement. I don't know if he can put it off but I'd guess he will try to show improvement.

The bench
The bench 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Crow Actually Colangelo is not expected to produce wins this year, he won't be let go of until at least 2014

Crow
Crow 5pts

http://www.toromagazine.com/sports/throwin-smoke/7708f2b9-c865-39d4-a990-dc334560026c/Bryan-Colangelo-has-Got-to-Go/ @JUNKYARDDOG 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @JUNKYARDDOG I guess they could try to play it that way. The team has an option on him  for next season.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @soonerfan237 the top 2 guys in 2014 look special but past that it looks pretty average to me. 

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Thabeet has 10 rebounds in last 65 minutes. 7 of last 9 games have been weak overall. Has only gotten half his normal minutes in half of the last 6 games but what about a DNP? I would strongly consider it now or soon if no improvement.

soonerfan237
soonerfan237 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I don't think we can afford to give him a DNP.  You have to let your bench players get some minutes during the regular season and we just don't have any other real options.  You're risking injury/exhaustion to your starters if you don't.  It's why Nazr got playing time in the regular season last year.  That being said, I'll bet we see plenty of DNP's for Thabeet when the playoffs roll around (like with Nazr).

Crow
Crow 5pts

I'd like to see Orton have a few  shots at playing decent minutes for comparison. And the minutes could also be resorted for Collison to be more at C in place of Thabeet and give Jones more a shot at PF too.

Crow
Crow 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Or Jones more at SF and Durant more at PF if you prefer.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Crow I agree Crow.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

how about this second unit:

 

Marcus Smart or Maynor (I still have faith in him),

Lamb  

Sefolosha

Collison

 Len

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@KeyserSo7e It will more than likely be Jackson, Lamb, hopefully Martin, Collison and either PJ3 or 1st pick.

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @KeyserSo7e id hope that jones would have turned himself into a decent powerforward by then 

d21
d21 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @KeyserSo7e pj3 ?

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @d21 yes I forgot him, I was just trying to find a way of getting Lamb to play more minutes, i don't like wasting talent

seth_22
seth_22 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e  @d21 The thing is the 2nd unit (reserves) is really only 4 deep (sometimes 3) at least for non-blowouts.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

So, say we draft 4 players next year....who do we cut next summer to make room?

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @BallSoHard Collison has seemed to have taken a significant drop in effectiveness.  It may be him, it may be Maynor, it May be both.  I think Martins gonna get resigned to a 3 year deal

supreme35
supreme35 5pts

 @Lambchop   @BallSoHard pause.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Lambchop   @BallSoHard Are you serious about Nick? I think we should keep him

treybuck
treybuck 5pts

 @Lambchop   @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard You must be watching different basketball games than I am. Nick is playing with extreme effectiveness, and looks better now than he did in the 2009-2010 season. He is an immediate impact off the bench, even though his stat line might not always impress.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@Lambchop @KeyserSo7e @BallSoHard he's been playing as good as he ever has.

d21
d21 5pts

 @Lambchop   @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard nick has been good this year.leave johnny basketball alone 

supreme35
supreme35 5pts

 @Lambchop   @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard he's scoring more points at a higher clip than the past 3 seasons. pretty much the same rebounding as the past 2 seasons.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard I love Nick, but hes almsot been completely absent for tehs eason, Im worried how much more fo a dop hell have next season.  Maybe hell be our coach

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts

 @BallSoHard We only need to draft 2, a center and a backup point guard

d21
d21 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard i would like to draft a shooting specialist in the 2nd round with the Charlotte pick

anonymous12345
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 @BallSoHard  @d21  @KeyserSo7e Euro stash.

 

d21
d21 5pts

 @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard i think they are trying to develop lamb into a sg that can handle the ball and set up his teammates rather than being a specialist.

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

 @d21  @KeyserSo7e  @BallSoHard We kidna did that with Hollis Thompson - we got him in A, but he was projected to go tehre and it looks likes hes finally getting into that.  However, methiks Lamb will grow into a wicked 3 pt threat.

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @d21  @BallSoHard Lamb can shoot we don't need more players to sit on the bench we have to get only what we need to help the team, Lamb can shoot he just need to find more minutes, he is a lottery talent, you aint gonna get someone better with a second round pick

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@d21 @KeyserSo7e Yea, that's my point. There's no room for 4 additional draft picks. This is why I think we are planning to do something in a trade. Only other option is to lean on trading up in the draft.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@KeyserSo7e so what do we do with the other 2 picks?

KD4theWin
KD4theWin 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard  @KeyserSo7e try to trade them to pick higher

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