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Wednesday Bolts – 12.12.12

by Royce Young on December 12, 2012 at 10:51 am 400 Comments

Ben Golliver of SI.com says KD is the first quarter MVP: “The case for Durant begins with the Thunder’s 17-4 start, excellent in any season but especially so this year in the wake of the James Harden deal. Much is made of the teamwork-first culture in Oklahoma City, but the Thunder’s steady response after the unpopular trade of a budding superstar speaks first to Durant’s elite reliability. Through five-plus seasons, he’s appeared in more than 96 percent of his team’s games, and this year he’s averaging the third-most minutes in the league and has scored at least 20 points in every game he’s played 30 minutes or more. He delivers night in and night out, regardless of matchups or schedule, and his game is growing: He’s averaging a career-high 8.5 rebounds and registering more than a steal and a block per game, something James can’t claim. He’s shown flashes of an improved post game, his defense has gotten markedly better in the last two seasons and he continues to refine the one-two balance with Russell Westbrook late in games.”

Jenni Carlson: “Fans of those teams love those guys while everyone else around the league thinks they’re punks. The Thunder image makers want you to believe this team is punk-free, but the truth is, they are like every other contender. They need nasty on the court. They need some bad boys. Looks like one might be developing right under their noses.”

Something that could greatly impact Serge Ibaka.

Laughing at the Lakers.

Rob Mahoney of SI.com: “Westbrook’s playmaking vision and judgment are improving by the day, but the evolution hasn’t quelled the underlying fury of his game. It’s as if a dead sprint is Westbrook’s sole response to any amount of open court, and a full, complete effort the only option his body will allow. Sport VU’s optical tracking data will tell you that other players cover more ground, but I’m consistently impressed with how aggressively Westbrook approaches the hustle game, and how completely he refuses to use his superstar status as a convenient out.”

KD’s Christmas shoes.

Darnell Mayberry on OKC’s record pace: “But to write off the Thunder’s early season success using such excuses is to ignore the development that’s been taking place. Individually and collectively, the Thunder has shown a great deal of growth both offensively and defensively. Perhaps to the surprise of many, the Thunder has become the league’s top offensive team even without Harden. Assists are up. Turnovers are down. And a better team-wide understanding of where to be on offense has helped lead to an impressive 49.1 percent shooting clip, the second best accuracy in the league.”

Serge Ibaka does a Dikembe Mutombo impression.

Kevin Martin has a new website.

The Lakers are looking to add a point guard desperately. And you know, the Thunder have an extra one kind of laying around. Except, why would the Thunder help the Lakers? And the Lakers have nothing the Thunder really want or could use. Unless L.A. wants to trade Pau Gasol for Eric Maynor, there’s nothing there.

You are now free to start dreaming about Kevin Love.

Dave Zirin to Patrick Hruby of Sports on Earth on sports welfare: ” “It’s like this magic alchemy where we take all this public money and it morphs into private profit,” says Dave Zirin, author of “Bad Sports: How Owners are Ruining the Games We Love.” “The most egregious example of this is the Seattle Sonics going from the fourth biggest market in the country to Oklahoma City, a market that has one-eighth or one-sixteenth of the per capita income. Why did that move make sense? One place offered corporate welfare and another didn’t. The NBA punished a city for not giving them hundreds of millions of dollars.”

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OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Love in LA would be scary

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

@OkcBaby don't give them ideas

jugularbane
jugularbane 5pts

 @<--Not About Dat Lyfe  @OkcBaby Love in OKC is even scarier

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @jugularbane  @OkcBaby I really think it would be a terrible idea in both cases.

As Promised
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Where would be the best fit for Kevin Love?  A place where he can play pick and pop or go in the middle.  he can get support from Perkins on Defense.  He has reliable ouside shooters to space the floor in RW and KD.  Imagine a Pick and roll with Love and KD?  And you can't have too many Kevin's on a team either

SoCal Thunder
SoCal Thunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I guess I'll direct traffic

 

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/hornets-vs-thunder-pregame-primer-7/#more-23312

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

I believe @wudmonster made a comment below saying that Love -- "he could abuse any one in the league down low, including bosh and lebron."

 

Is weed legal in OKC? Ya'll be smoking the herb I swear!

wudmonster
wudmonster 5pts

@<--Not About Dat Lyfe ????? That's exactly what he's been doing for the last two years. You watch any games of his? Range out beyond the the point line and he can finish on the block with either hand. Any one in the league that could slow him down on the block surely wouldn't like to follow him out to three point range and leave kd down low one on one. Basketball involves strategy and tactics which are dictated by the pieces involved. KD, Russ and Love on one side of the floor would be easy points if guarded straight up or wide open shots for the other two players if they doubled. Ibaka and Martin don't do that for us now.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

@wudmonster too many words!!! Are you saying Kevin Love is the "Lebron stopper" yes or no?!

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

@wudmonster unfortunately for your theory, OKC is not in desperate need of MORE offense. Can he play defense? Looool

wudmonster
wudmonster 5pts

@<--Not About Dat Lyfe Did I say defend? No. Did I say abuse anyone down low? Yes. As in, no one can stop him down low. Clear enough?

Air Bud
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Delonte West to the Lakers should be fun.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @Skyline

 not a bad pick up personnel wise, personality wise it is a disaster. Imagine him in LA.  whew.

SoCal Thunder
SoCal Thunder 5pts

 @PerkPunt  @Skyline "HIDE YOUR WiFES, HIDE YOUR MOMS"

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts

 @SoCal Thunder  @PerkPunt  @Skyline After the decision Lebron went South Beach and Lebron's mom went West. 

 

ba dum tis

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Skyline This whole Laker season has been fun

Fuzzy Logic
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Comparing what happened to Love with what Howard did in Orlando is like comparing apples and arses. Howard was given everything he wanted from the franchise repeatedly and they made a huge commitment to him. Love was repeatedly told by the Wolves that he wasn't as good as most thought he was and as a restricted free agent he really had no choice but to stay in Minnesota.

 

As an excuse to humble brag on our players that's another reason it's so impressive none of our main guys have requested a player option.

 

The Wolves are going to rue their treatment of Love when he opts out early and they lose him for nothing. Rue it.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Fuzzy Logic

  They will be "Rue-ined"

Aren't
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We should get Love and somehow keep Martin so we can become the "Oklahoma City Kevins."

The OKC K's.

dali parton
dali parton 5pts

 @Aren't Kevin!

 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Aren't gah Perk you're so close to being Kevin Perkins. 

BlueLamp
BlueLamp 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @Aren't "And here's your coach.... KEVIN OLLIE!"

BlueLamp
BlueLamp 5pts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4p8qxGbpOk

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

So whata re we fighting about todayy

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@cemitten LOVE

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard  @cemitten http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy8rn0bUesk

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cemitten Kevin Love, and #ThingsthatarebetterthantheLakers.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

Hopefully its a blowout so we can play the call ups

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpWu_56cMUU&feature=g-high-u

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @ILikePancakes pretty big drop off from the other one but still a good laugh. 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Borrowing from twitter: #ThingsthatarebetterthantheLakers

 

GO!

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

Kennygee

Perk-Nightmares
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 @ou_sas

 Rosanne Barr

OUThunderfan
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 @ou_sas half of the Western Conference

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

 @OUThunderfan  @ou_sas And the other half too

twistdov
twistdov 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas Brussel Sprouts

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-MW5tkTWtQ

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CKHOMKqxYw

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP0_7w88joI

 

all of the above

 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Flopping no-calls

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @ou_sas Meggings

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts

To bad the Lakers burned that Phil Jackson bridge

KellOne
KellOne 5pts

 @OkcBaby Phil can't save them now either

D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

STAHP

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

We can all probably agree Love is clearly a better player then Ibaka and will almost certainly always be. But any trade for Love is unrealistic and we would have to give up too much. 

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

Clearly? Ibaka can develop and learn to do the things Love does that he can't (better positioning for rebounds, better shooting from distance). Love can't learn to do the things that Ibaka does (finishing strong at the rim, blocks) because those things require a physicality and athleticism that Love will never possess.

TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard 5pts

@Fuzzy Logic ironic that your username is fuzzy logic... Yes, Ibaka is a better athlete, but if that's all it took to have more potential than another clearly superior player, everybody would be clamoring to trade their whole roster for James White.

Fuzzy Logic
Fuzzy Logic 5pts

@TonyMitchellForPresident13 Someone needs to learn the definition of "ironic" before they go throwing it around willy nilly. First as for potential I think Ibaka is still improving while Love I think is at or near his peak. Secondly, I don't think either is clearly better than the other. They're very different players whose skill sets don't overlap.

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts

 @Fuzzy Logic Umm.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@Fuzzy Logic I wound't consider Ibaka a strong finisher but I think he has improved in this area.

BrockSuede
BrockSuede 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @Fuzzy Ibaka is currently 4th best scorer in the restricted area. Top 5 is the very definition of strong finisher.

Lokedogg
Lokedogg 5pts

Id love to have love, I cant believe you guys are comparing him to howard I think everything love said was justifiable. And I think love is a top 10 player in this league. However, I think ibakas ceiling is too high to let go at the age of 23. And if we were some how able to keep ibaka in all of this, there just wouldn't be enough shots to go around. I think we stay with what we have until perks contract is up, then we either let him go or resign him for a bench spot and less money. At which point we add a defensive minded and tough center similar to perk with just a little more athleticism and offensive capability

 

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @Lokedogg who else recently signed a contract then went to the media complaining about the team that cuts his checks?

 

DWIGHT.

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