A lot has changed since the last time the Thunder and Lakers met. The Lakers are different. The Thunder are different.
Except nothing is really different.
At least in terms of outcome.
The last time the Thunder and Lakers met, Oklahoma City was polishing off a nice gentleman’s sweep, a five-game handling of the LA. Of course, the Lakers didn’t just make an offseason splash, but emptied the pool with the signing of Steve Nash and the Dwight Howard trade. The Thunder actually subtracted from their roster.
Didn’t matter Friday though. Russell Westbrook went ballistic the first 24 minutes, Kevin Durant calmly closed the last 24 and the Thunder cruised to a 104-108 win over the Lakers.
“A lot of [the game] was Westbrook,” Mike D’Antoni said. “He just went crazy on us.”
That first half was something else. Westbrook has a pretty clear tell when he’s cooking and it’s that he not only gets super aggressive with his jumper, but he starts dropping his arms immediately after he releases the ball. You can literally see the swag oozing out of him. And in that second quarter, Westbrook was droppin’ arms and swaggin’ out. He hit five 3s — a career-high, not just for a half, but a game — scored 27 points, had five assists and didn’t turn it over once.
“I was able to make some shots early and just kept shooting,” Westbrook said.
The best one obviously was the and-1 3 that punctuated a dominant OKC first half. As the ball fell out of the net, Westbrook laid on his back, holstered his smoking fingers, did a somersault and then stood nose-to-nose with KD and they yelled in each other’s faces. It was one of Those Moments. One where you just shake your head and say, “Holy crap these guys are fun.”
But as is with Westbrook, it wasn’t going to last forever. He started the second half 0-of-7, missed two free throws, turned the ball over a couple of times and didn’t score a point in the third quarter. Good news for the Thunder though, they still had this Kevin Durant guy. Durant assumed his role as the best scorer in the world and started dropping mid-range pullups, deep 3s and slashing layups. He had 18 in the first half, 18 in the second. While Westbrook’s explosion had your jaw dropped, in the end it was Durant who had 36 points on seven fewer shots.
In fact, I this moment in the third quarter when it hit me: As frustrated as it can be sometimes when the Thunder play poorly, just imagine what it’s like to have your team playing against the Thunder. I mean, it just has to feel unfair . Westbrook’s killing you, making everything, running everywhere. Then he cools off. So what happens? Kevin Durant steps in and scores at will. If I were a Lakers fan, I feel like I’d just be sitting there like Bodie in The Wire — this game is rigged.
While the Thunder continued their superiority over the Lakers — that’s now eight of 10 with an average margin of victory of 12 points — no Thunder fan is so clueless to realize that a) it’s December and b) the Lakers were without Pau Gasol and Steve Nash.
“We all know the Lakers are one of the best teams. They don’t have the record right now, but they will,” Brooks said. “They’re going to get some guys healthy and they’re going to get some rhythm, but they have the best center in basketball and they have one of the best players ever. Steve Nash will come back and [Mike] D’Antoni will continue to get that team better.”
But at the same time, isn’t this what the concern over the assembling of this Laker team was? I know it was the angle I kept laying out as people asked in August if the West was already won by LA. They’re relying on a 39-year-old point guard, a 34-year-old Kobe Bryant, a center coming off spinal surgery and a power forward that has been slipping the last few seasons. On paper, sure. They look amazing. But as KD said during the summer, you don’t win games on paper.
There’s still so much time to go and things may look very different come March or April. I’m convinced 100 percent the Lakers will be better then than they are now. But any fear or worry that the West was the Lakers to lose looked pretty silly as the Thunder rolled them up Friday. The Lakers came in to Oklahoma City looking to make a statement. Instead, it was the Thunder who did it: The West is still very much theirs.
NOTES:
- Nick Collison, you guys. Just Nick Collison. This was me tonight when he checked out with 13 points and seven rebounds in 17 minutes.
- I think Westbrook’s second half is what John Hollinger would call “regression to the mean.”
- Westbrook on if he was having fun after that and-1: “Definitely, at that point. Definitely. It was a good shot, a good moment.”
- Before the game Scott Brooks was asked about the Lakers being 1-7 when Kobe scored 30 or more points. “”I didn’t know that stat was out there but I’m going to put that on the board. Give him 32 tonight.” So with Kobe sitting on 32 points with 15 seconds left, I was all excited about a perfect storyline. Naturally, Kobe drilled a 3 to finish with 35 and ruined everything.
- A heads up: I talked to Kevin Martin pregame and he is not on Twitter, so @KMart23, if you’re following it, isn’t a real account.
- Westbrook was asked very specifically about the Thunder scoring 32 points in the final eight minutes of the second quarter and what keyed it. His answer: “Defending.” I mean, I guess I get it, but, well, um.
- Perk got caught in a one-on-one with Kobe late in the fourth quarter. Perk looked right at Kobe, said, “Let’s go boy” and then proceeded to get a finger tip on Kobe’s jumper causing it to barely catch iron.
- Pretty surprised the Lakers didn’t use Kobe on Westbrook one time. Takeaway for Mike D’Antoni: Chris Duhon can’t guard Westbrook.
- That’s 11 straight for the Thunder scoring 100 or more points.
- Some GIF fun: Here’s Westbrook hitting the and-1 3. Here it is from another angle. And here it is with Doc Rivers’ reaction.
- Clever move by Scott Brooks to end the third quarter. With Kobe shooting free throws with 24 seconds left, Brooks subbed in Durant for a final possession to end the quarter. It resulted in a missed corner 3 from Ibaka, but it was still quality awareness from Brooks.
- Ibaka clearly isn’t that comfortable in the post because every time he gets it there, he faces up.
- Perk might be able to defend Howard, but he sure couldn’t keep him off the glass. Howard had 18 rebounds, 10 in the first quarter and six offensive. Perk did do a pretty solid job on Howard in the post, but with the way the game shook out, Howard wasn’t much of an offensive focus at all.
- Woo boy, Eric Maynor stunk tonight. Maybe the worst eight minutes I’ve ever seen him play.
- It wouldn’t be a Thunder-Lakers game without Metta World Peace scuffling with someone. This time, it was Serge Ibaka as the two got locked up after a free throw. Ibaka appeared to sort of cock his arm back and ball up his fist. World Peace had those crazy eyes. It was tense.
- KD was actually asked postgame who would win in a cage match between Ibaka and World Peace. For real. Real question. KD answered it though. “I’m taking Serge,” he said.
- At times, Dwight Howard is barely even playing basketball. He just tries to overpower and manhandle people. I think that’s a real sign that he’s not physically right. He’s not using his incredible athleticism, but more just trying to rely on his strength.
- Kevin Martin dunked tonight. I don’t remember that ever happening.
- Any time Hasheem Thabeet tries to run really fast, I get pretty nervous.
- Violet Palmer is seriously the worst. It’s just pretty much a fact at this point. She’s so bad that players really don’t even argue with her. It’s like they hear a whistle, start to get mad, see it was her and just go, “Oh, it’s Violet.”
- Via Thunder PR bro John Read: “The last OKC franchise player to score 27+ points in the first half was Gary Payton vs. Washington on 2/15/2000 (29 pts).”
- We may have witnessed the worst fan halfcourt shot of all time. The guy barely got it to the free throw line. It really wasn’t a surprise. His free throw form was so bad that even Shawn Marion was going, “What the hell is that?”
- Nick Collison on defending Dwight Howard: “I’m giving up a lot of weight. And ability.”
- The options the Thunder have defensively are pretty incredible. Second quarter OKC had Durant on Kobe, Martin on Duhon and Westbrook on World Peace.
- That play in the early second quarter where Jodie Meeks drove into Kevin Martin, got the whistle and then shot the 3? What’s the big difference between that and the rip move? Meeks wasn’t set on attempting a shot there at all. But he felt the contact, heard the whistle and then went into a shooting motion.
- Am I the only one that’s almost always caught off guard by tipoff. I mean, I know it’s coming and all, but I’m never actually paying attention when it happens.
- You guys, Rob Clay can rock a national anthem. Best there is in OKC.
- Brian Davis Line of the Night via @mr_kylesmith: “The JayHawk sticking his talons in the Lakers!”
Next up: The Pacers at home Sunday.





can we get ibaka and kd to spend time with hakeem after this season?!
Lineups:
15,15,+0, 7.07,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
4, 3, +1, 1.47,Westbrook,Martin,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
2, 6, -4, 1.58,Westbrook,Martin,Durant,Ibaka,Collison
5, 3, +2, 1.88,Westbrook,Martin,Sefolosha,Collison,Thabeet
14,10,+4, 4.50,Maynor,Martin,Durant,Collison,Thabeet
2, 1, +1, 0.60,Westbrook,Martin,Durant,Collison,Thabeet
3, 2, +1, 0.88,Westbrook,Martin,Durant,Collison,Perkins
13,7, +6, 3.58,Westbrook,Martin,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
9, 4, +5, 1.68,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
0, 2, -2, 0.75,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Thabeet
3, 1, +2, 1.22,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
13,12,+1, 6.82,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Thabeet
4, 2, +2, 1.18,Westbrook,Martin,Durant,Ibaka,Thabeet
0, 4, -4, 1.07,Westbrook,Martin,Sefolosha,Collison,Thabeet
2, 3, -1, 1.32,Maynor,Martin,Sefolosha,Collison,Thabeet
0, 0, +0, 0.40,Martin,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Collison
1, 4, -3, 1.70,Maynor,Martin,Sefolosha,Durant,Collison
10,4, +6, 2.87,Westbrook,Martin,Sefolosha,Durant,Collison
2, 6, -4, 2.53,Westbrook,Martin,Sefolosha,Durant,Perkins
8, 16,-8, 4.57,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
2, 0, +2, 0.05,Westbrook,Martin,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka
2, 3, -1, 0.28,Westbrook,Sefolosha,Durant,Ibaka,Perkins
Will also post in other thread for your convenience.
http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/12/saturday-morning-cartoons-thunderstruck-opened/
Serge's father passed away when Serge was 8, the Second Congo War started when he was 9 (largest war in modern African history, death toll of 5 million) and his mother was imprisoned when he was around 12.
I don't think Stephen Jackson and MWP want to mess with Serge.
@OBoy Jones III Um, WOW. That's one male model I'm going to avoid pissing off.
for a minute i forgot the lakers were playing without Nash and Gasol...Hope they come back fully healthy and ready to go..Howard and Kobe look good...last nite, Westbrook just got hot in the 2nd quarter..seems like anytime we take out Kobe the other team goes on a run...can't wait for Nash to take care of the offense and create easier shots for everyone... does anyone have a clip of that nasty "start n stop" move Kobe did on sefolosha. (I think he was guarding) him, his reaction after was hilarious..Steve Nash and Howard are the need to be healthy and playing at their best for us to win it all..
@kennygee90 Even with those 2 guys the4 Lakers can't guard us! Nash with Kobe will see how that works and Gasol scares no one anymore. Go to your team's site. No one here wants to talk about a nice move Kobe di against our Thunder. Will give ya some credit for coming on after that loss but then your post is an excuse that is invalid anyways since Nash will not help stop Westbrook.
@kennygee90 When Nash and Gasol get back, which one of those guys is going to stop Durant from shooting over 50% from the floor? Since Howard couldn't stock Westbrook from getting to the rim at will last night, how is Nash going to slow him down?
@BrockSuede we didnt lose cause of durant...we have kobe to cancel out most of durant's production..we started losing when we took Kobe out and put the bench in..you guys have westbrook and durant guys that can make and create shots..we only got Kobe..Nash was brought in to create easier shots...we have 2 stars just as good as yours ..we just need production from the other players
@kennygee90 @BrockSuede Wow 2 starts as good as ours? Kobe is a monster and still a superstar but Durant is better at this point even if only by a little and guessing you mean Howard as second guy. Very good player but with Westbrook defense and offense he is a better player than Howard is. Also the depth of these teams is not even close.
@kennygee90 @OBoy Jones III @justin_mia The Lake Show will make a good run at it when everyone gets healthy, but I think that if they don't make some kind of move at the deadline, they may yet again miss out on a deep playoff run.
@OBoy Jones III @justin_mia @BrockSuede I agree, we need 2 productive players...Duhon is not too bad of a backup PG though, if we have nash healthy we'll be alright
@kennygee90 @justin_mia @BrockSuede yeah thats why i think you guys need ATLEAST 2 players back for Gasol in a trade and probably a backup PG because Nash has a minutes limit.
@kennygee90 @OBoy Jones III @justin_mia Who on your bench will be able to do this with the current roster?
@OBoy Jones III @justin_mia @BrockSuede we need them to control the start of 2nd and 4th quarters cause thats when OKC usually make their runs..when kobe goes out..we lack any playmakers...we need people to create and put points on the board when he's on the bench..
@OBoy Jones III @justin_mia @BrockSuede yea but adding that extra ball handler who happens to be the one of, if not the best playmaker in basketball is huge,,,..
@kennygee90 @justin_mia @BrockSuede Kobe and Dwight are your only players that are on the same level as Durant and Westbrook. Nash and Gasol are good but past their primes.
@justin_mia @BrockSuede Scott brooks is smart and usually plays westbrook or durant or both at the start of the 2nd quarter when kobe gets his rest.. westbrook went off...with nash less turnovers, easier shots and No crazy runs like that..Kobe and Nash can shoulder the burden not just Kobe..Imagine OKC playing without durant or Westbrook...the results would've been opposite
@kennygee90 @BrockSuede Pau in the game also prevents OKC from going small so much. I'm glad we won but this game probably isn't indicative of anything we'd see if we faced LAL at full strength.
Which two guys would that be? Just as good I could go with you for Kobe maybe. That's it.
@kennygee90 @BrockSuede Your offense ended up fine in this game, it was your defense that lost. Nash does not help with that, but maybe you'd have less turnovers. We scored a lot off your turnovers in that second quarter.
@kennygee90 You must secretly like the Thunder a little too. I never go to the Lakers site myself, just saying.
@kennygee90 Gotta admire your optimism, KG. You are a true fan. :-) I'm not sure how much Nash and Pau are going to help your guys, though. One thing's for sure...the Lakers will get better as the year goes on.
@TaoMaas this is what killed us too.. Nick Collison, Serge Ibaka, and Kevin Martin shooting 5-7, 7-14, and 4-8 respectivel,,...we need this kind of production from our bench and role players, but we need nash to create shots for them...
@kennygee90 Welcome to our world during last year's finals. The stars on any team are gonna get theirs. It always seems to boil down to what teams can get from their supporting cast.
@kennygee90 cool story, kenny.
I'm sure everyone knows this but I always love to point it out. Kobe scored 35 on 11/24 shooting and KD scored 36 on 10/19
LOL at the ESPN halftime of last night's game. They said Rondo should shoot more...like Westbrook. Bandwagoners
@KellOne I thought the exact same thing! When just two weeks ago they were lighting Westbrook up for not passing, and last year magic said he wasn't a good point guard.
Daequan got his bell rung pretty good last night, bumped heads with a teammate at the end of the game. Did anyone hear if he's hurt bad?
There's nothing wrong with "complaining" about Eric Maynor after this game. He played poorly. He's played poorly all season. Lineups with Maynor-Martin-Thabeet have been very hit or miss all season and result in our starters playing heavier minutes. Even when Maynor was healthy to start last year and playing "well" there were signs of this happening. He was shooting more, and shooting worse. Just less obvious with James Harden around.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd feel uncomfortable entering the postseason with the Thabeet-Martin-Maynor trio coming off the bench. Something has to give by the deadline.
@justin_mia BROOKIES
jk......kinda
@justin_mia Agree 100%...OkC should be active at the deadline.
@justin_mia no what it's wrong is to complain about Perkins...if I said someting people say I hate winning.. THAT IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Perkins is supossed to be good at this kind of games and matchups but he sucked men, can just someone admit it please
@KeyserSo7e @justin_mia I don't want to "admit it". It ain't my job to decide what trade-offs are most appropriate when giving this to get thsat to fill our roster. It ain't my job to lecture or critique. I like Perk, which works out him being on the team and all.
I just don't want sucked into the evil vortex of investing emotionally into being negative and critical and pointing out flaws in others and thinking that makes me something better or what ever.
It was great game by , glad I went. So Perk didn't have his best game, I'm just glad we don't have Howard.
@KeyserSo7e @justin_mia Can you not understand why people wonder 'wtf?' when people bitch about a player or two when we are 16-4 and seeing improvement in just about every aspect of the game?
How many of Howard's points vs. perkins came from that high-off-the-glass semi baby hook? You can't sweat those points. If you want to say "Perk/Serge/Nick had a bad night blocking out Howard on the glass" then that's awesome and everyone would agree. But complaining that Perk is a liability and all that, I mean, gripe all you want but as long as we are improving, get used to people calling your bluff on the Perkins hate
@twistdov @KeyserSo7e To be fair, Perkins is still not adequately rebounding the ball, and he's gotten worse at that from last season. There's still stuff to bag on Perkins about, but he's improved on other things, so you take what you can get.
@TaoMaas I just gave my opinion you know...did I ever insulted anyone here in DT? I just gave my opinion, maybe I'm the only one that thinks like this, but that doesn't means that I'm going to change my mind...no matter how wrong you tell me I am...
@KeyserSo7e Sorry...just a pet peeve. When a person finds themselves all alone with everyone else behind, they need to figure out whether they're leading the pack or about to get lapped.
@TaoMaas I'm completely wrong.. well OK, I'm human
@KeyserSo7e "I guess that I'm the only one that feels he hasn't been good enough..."
You do know that this is exactly how it looks when you're completely wrong, don't you?
@twistdov @justin_mia I do not hate Perkins beacause I do not know him, If I criticize him is only about his game, what he does in the basketball court, that's all that matters, but I guess that I'm the only one that feels he hasn't been good enough
@KeyserSo7e @justin_mia Have you no respect for Mrs. DT's inbox?
@KeyserSo7e @justin_mia Not what I saw. I saw the veteran Perk come in and settle down things when the low-life ex-Superman had devolved to his usual lowlife sucky instigating BS
@KeyserSo7e Perkins didn't get in the way on offense, his defense was alright, and he struggled on the defensive boards. What more do you want for him? Definitely better than his average performance last season. At this point you take what you can get from Perkins, I wouldn't complain about his game last night.
@justin_mia Okay, makes sense, but my worrying about it won't make anything happen. So I go and enjoy. You must be young and hungry still. I'm oldish and happy. The one blessing of starting to get older.
@Crownme 'Young'? Guess it depends on your frame of reference. But I am hungry, and I've got some chorizo waiting to be cooked.
http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2012/12/varejao-trade-destinations-or-lack-there-of/
MWP likes to attack drunk midwesterners and deliver blindside elbows to unsuspecting defenders. Serge grew up fighting lions and rhinos in the Congo, and he can sever your arm with his Kung-Fu grip. Smart money is on serge
Watching Spurs replay. how long is Duncan going to be able to keep running breaks like that anyway. When he's getting up and down the court that well they are going to be a handful for anyone. Few more days we'll see how he keeps up with somene besides Asik