Happy Saturday. Thank you for your support of Daily Thunder. Shine on.
It was more than a week ago, but KD’s career-high 52 was pretty special. And via Hip-Hop Nonstop, here’s a fun behind-the-scenes look at it.
Bonus cartoon after the jump:
The OKC Chamber of Commerce put this video out yesterday and as a lifelong Oklahoman, it’s pretty terrific. There’s just something special about this place.
How did I miss that dunk?
The Promotional OKC video made me think of this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM
Maynor / Martin and maybe Mavs pick to Utah for Millsap / Foye and Mavs pick. Anybody?
http://dailythunder.com/2013/01/tgr-89-swears-and-snubs/
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=am6pxzq change liggins with orton or thabeet,add okc and dallas 1round pick and its a good trade
@No beard no fear i would not give up 2 1st round drafts picks for that at all, im not sure I would even give them the dallas one. and no way am I giving up liggins for him
@No beard no fear you would have to do liggins, ortons is nothing.
Stat looking impressive.
For the poster asking below, I would say the great things about OKC (or surrounding suburbs such as Yukon, Edmond, Mustang, etc.) are low cost of living, easy access to everything as long as you don't mind driving because everything is connected to either I-40, I-44, or I-35, there are a lot of family entertainment options and most of them are cheap (Zoo passes, Omni-plex, Frontier City and White Water), a lot of the parks are nice, especially in Edmond, the state does have TONS of lakes, and the city is always getting more and more arts stuff and great restaurants and businesses every year (like SunFlower Market, Half-priced book, or pretty much everything in Edmond where the players live). The construction is super annoying, but it should end eventually, and you do have to drive everywhere. There are no subway system or El-train like in Chicago and the busses are just so-so. Also, you have to deal with tornados a lot. In case you're politically or religiously liberal many people are uber Republicans or evangelical Christians (though not as much for the younger generation) or at least, the media seems to assume that most people are. Not saying that's good or bad. Just throwing it out there. I lived in OKC most my life (thus I'm NOT kennygee people!) and moved back there after I got my masters while we had our two boys to be close to family (also so my wife could have a VBAC, midwife, and cloth diaper. There's actually a very "granola/earthy" sub-movement going on in OKC). I would still live there now if it wasn't for getting accepted into FSU. Now I live in the retirement capital of the world. Go old people!
@GervinReincarnated
Also responded below . . . although I was kinda late to do so.
I forgot to mention if you visit you have to eat breakfast at Jimmy's Eggs. That's where the players go eat breakfast at. Daequan used to breakfast all the time. http://pics.lockerz.com/s/142230629
@GervinReincarnated That sums it up pretty well.
@GervinReincarnated they say prayers in the arena before Thunder games. Only pro team to do so.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars Very weird I think. I'm almost surprised the NBA lets them do it.
@O O O O O O
I believe i said if there was a muslim prayer i would leave. I don't believe that was me saying they couldn't have it. If i don't agree with it i don't have to sit there and sit through it. But that option is available to everyone now. And you are right i wasn't looking for any pity. But please tell me why i should have to give up something i enjoy just because someone else doesn't like it? I didn't ask them to have the prayer before the game, but why should i hvae some sort of problem with it that they do?
If you have 10 people and 9 of those people want something, why should they have to miss out just because the other one doesn't want it? That is plain and simple ridiculous. And to say it isn't is selfish. To say that i as a white christian man am afforded liberties that "minorities" are not is racist. I don't get any special treatment because i am white or christian or a man, and it is demeaning to everyone to insinuate that i do.
You said majorities can be wrong, and that is true they can be. But we aren't talking about some sort of injustice towards people here. We aren't talking about segregation where just because you were black you were not allowed the same things as white people. A prayer before a game where the main thing requested is safety for the players isn't an injustice to anyone. And to say that it is is being close minded.
@MJOKC @SexyWatt @Lost Ones @O O O O O O I doubt anyone would turn in their season tickets. And if they did, the waiting list for them is well over 4,000 anyways and I'd certainly be willing to pick them up.
@MJOKC @SexyWatt @Lost Ones @O O O O O O Difference is I'm not advocating to have someone with religious beliefs congruent to mine to sit up and pontificate and anyone who disagrees can just deal with it or ignore it,
It would be fairer to everybody, that nobody do so, and that is typically agreed across the country in every arena and event except for ours.
@SexyWatt see now,this is where its gets ehhhhh, you've been part of a privileged majority all of your life. it wouldnt make sense for you to think of any minority interest because they arent youre own.that whole as a christian deal isnt gonna get you any pity(not that youre looking for it) from anyone, because everythinggg goes christians way, which is why its being taken up as the issue. you were quick to walk away from muslim prayer, but then have a problem when people dont wanna deal w the christian prayer. loool this is the thinking that get people upset w christians. all this majority talk is more inconsiderate to me than any prayer or national anthem. smh, like majorities cant be wrong.
@SexyWatt @Lost Ones @MJOKC @O O O O O O What are you "giving up" though? So do you complain when you go to any other game in the country and there isn't a public prayer first? Again, is God only available 5 minutes before the Thunder game, and if said prayer is being lead by a local OKC pastor? Seems like if you needed to talk to him just right now, you could just do so yourself and that would be more sincere anyways.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Lost Ones @MJOKC @O O O O O O
The point is that the owners aren't here to appease you. They can run the team how they want. That should be clear by the fact that they don't make all the player decisions that you all want.
As a Christian i find all of what you guys are saying to be pretty offensive. I haven't set out or said anything to be offensive in this conversation, but i believe that you are going out of you way to belittle my beliefs. Its really simple. If you don't want to pray before the game then don't participate in it. But why should the majority of the people have to give up something they enjoy to placate you? I mean thats how it is in the world today. The majority have to give up things they love to make the minority of people happy. That seems to just be ridiculous to me.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @MJOKC @O O O O O O yup, Craig Hodges was blackballed as well for being an outspoken muslim kareem in some capacity as well.
@Lost Ones @MJOKC @O O O O O O Chris Jackson got blackballed from the NBA for being a Muslim.
And well if they aren't going to let everyone have their religion practice represented, then yea it is inconsiderate and offensive to do so for just one group.Of course, being non majority you are used to it and learn to "just deal," but everyone knows that wouldn't be as acceptable to the majority if the shoe were on the other foot
I could do without the National Anthem too, and the Jimmy is a 3rd grader from such and such elementary and get an A on his last spelling Bee part. I don't give a damn, just give the ref the ball so we can go. I got like a 90 minute drive home
@MJOKC @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @O O O O O O you dont? i dont at least when i dont want and nowadays it doesn't contain offensive language.
@MJOKC @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @O O O O O O yea the national anthem has a cult following but its widely accepted.
@MJOKC @O O O O O O I peed on a bush outside a church one time too lol. Not a political statement or anything, I think I was like 7. I just had to pee and someone was in the bathroom
@MJOKC @O O O O O O I have to. It's not well received to say the least.
@MJOKC @O O O O O O try walking around during a prayer then. See if some old white man doesn't flat out grab you
@O O O O O O @MJOKC Nah it's not a big enough deal that I really care and am writing up letters and starting an online petition for, but it's certainly inconsiderate and there's a reason damn near no other sports teams in the country are doing it
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @MJOKC looooool. thats silly, but its importance is gonna depend on the attention that you pay to it, if you think its a big deal. lol its naturally gonna be a big offensive deal, and i could see that side really, but im just not sure, its as big an issue as everyones making it.lool and this is coming from someone that has an issue w every christian white male on the planet. most well represented, privileged demographic in the world. im not tryna appease them for shit. lol but the spirit of prayer transcends that, nahmean. lool smh, (this is silly lol fun tho)
@O O O O O O @MJOKC Would the entire city of OKC get overtaken by the devil if it was just removed entirely? Is 5 minutes before the Thunder game the only time God is available?
@MJOKC @Lost Ones @SexyWatt @Old Man Game Again, the majority thing. So that makes it acceptable?
The majority is ok with it so everyone else, if you have a problem just deal, or find somewhere where you are the majority
@MJOKC @CLthunderfan @O O O O O O @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @SexyWatt @Old Man Game I know. I grew up as the biggest Bible thumper in the universe. Believe me. I know
@MJOKC thats all good, they can perform whatever prayer they want, its the understanding of the people that i take issue with, prayer isn't a christian practice, it's a spiritual practice, and should be understood as such. how we gonna take some transcendent shit and muddy it w religion and politics.
lol mind, im not a christian or the type that prays. but im really of the opinion that its causing nooo harm. should be able to place ur ego aside, and understand its about some higher shit going on, that's the idea anyway. lol that's me tho.
@CLthunderfan @O O O O O O @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @SexyWatt @Old Man Game that's also because most people who participate in NASCAR (minus Jeff Gordon) are Southern Christians who have no problem with it.
@O O O O O O @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @SexyWatt @Old Man Game I am assuming no one likes nascar here as they have a prayer said before every race lol
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @SexyWatt @Old Man Game lol the larger problem here is the divide between the faiths, lol we got two abrahamic religions thinking that their prayers are going to different places. lol and really dont think muslims would even trip over a christian prayer, christians would mind the muslim prayer for sure though(dumb), and atheists are always ready to some disrespectful shit in the name of consideration and majority. lol nahmean, take ur minute, pray, to allah, jesus, god, ahura mazda, meditate, or just sit quiet. lol its all good anyway. i promise it wont hurt.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Old Man Game
haha that is not what i said at all. don't twist my words around on a topic like this.
I think their are probably people who don't agree with me on everything that will not be going to hell. But i honestly believe people who are not Christians will be going to Hell. That isn't me telling you what to do. It is your decision. I am not judging you or your decisions, so i'm not real sure why you think you need to judge what i believe.
As a christian i think its important to stand up for what you believe. I'm not in here preaching at you all. But i do find it offensive to be bashing on the religious people because they find prayer to be important.
@SexyWatt I'm exaggerating obviously but the point is I grew up in a church and I don't see the point in praying before a basketball game but you seem to hold very closely to it so whatever. If not every 5 minutes every day, every week, before major television broadcasts, whatever you want to do.
@SexyWatt @Old Man Game You said everyone who disagrees with you was going to Hell? That doesn't seem very nice either SexyWatt
@Old Man Game @SexyWatt Yeah I probably shouldn't have brought up the religion thing. ONe of the weirdest prayers I ever heard was when a guy read a passage from Job about "thunder" (either Job 26:14 or 36:33) that had nothing to do with what that passage is about and then turned into a message about how our team with the help of God can defeat theirs. Most of the time, however, the prayers are just for prayer safety.
@Old Man Game
no one said anything about praying every five minutes. You going to tell me you weren't trying to be insulting by saying that?
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Old Man Game
In Oklahoma there is prayer before many sporting events. No one makes you sit through it. If you really find it offenseive then just go walk around for a bit. The prayer literally lasts less than a minute.
@SexyWatt I was trying to walk away actually but however you want to read it you read it that way.
@Old Man Game
thats classy. just insult those of us who do pray.
@SexyWatt Sorry. This talk has ventured into going nowhere territory. If you want to pray every five minutes knock yourself out.
@SexyWatt @Old Man Game Point is, to have no prayer prior to the game like every other sports arena in the country. It's inconsiderate to make people sit through your religious rituals. You are a Christian so you don't see the problem, but it was of some other faith you'd feel alienated and wonder why are they forcing this upon me, before a basketball game no less
@Old Man Game
I just don't think everything has to be about political correctness. If the owners are christians or want to support christian values isn't it their right to do so?
@SexyWatt Yeah, we get it, you're not able to see this from someone else's perspective who doesn't believe in god.
@Old Man Game
The prayers are normally for the safety of the players and all the people involved in the game. I'm not real sure why that would be offensive anyway. Besides they have been doing it ever since the first Thunder game. I was there to witness it.
@Lost Ones @SexyWatt @Old Man Game @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars they pray four times a day, they pray five who's ways is strange when its time to surviveeee
@Old Man Game @SexyWatt
Whatever the prayer, I just silently thank God for the likes of KD . . . and Serge. :)
@SexyWatt NO prayer = no one is particularly offended. It would have never even come up ordinarily. No one expected to hear a prayer at these games until they started doing it.
@Old Man Game
i think its funny that all these 'other religions' should be appeased but appeasing the Christians is a problem. It happens all over this country. The owners have the right to do what they want. If they want a prayer before the game and the NBA allows it then they can have it. If you don't like it you don't have to support the team. It's that simple really.
@SexyWatt @Old Man Game @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars Arena should have a silent prayer so it would be considerate to every faith.
@SexyWatt Oh yes, the old, no one makes you listen argument. That's solid. I'm sure that consoles people who don't believe in it or who believe in other faiths but never see their sect represented.
@SexyWatt @Old Man Game @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars id rather pray than sing the national anthem, thats for sure
@Old Man Game @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars
The prayer lasts less than a minute. If you don't like it go walk around the arean until after the National Anthem. No one makes you sit through it.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Old Man Game
they have all kinds of denominations come do them. If you want to say that Oklahoma is full of republicans and religious christians then i'm not real sure why you think having someone from a Mosque come say a prayer would go over all that well.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars Exactly. Every now and then they'll get some guy who starts editorializing and bordering on political/social activism type stuff in his prayer. And frankly it's just more b.s. we have to sit through before we can see the game we all came to see. If I wanted to go to church there's are plenty of options around here. I came to watch an NBA game.
@Old Man Game It's inconsiderate. They pretend to be "nondominational" in them, but they're not having Muhammad Akbar from *#&$ Mosque come lead them. It's always Pastor so and so from some Baptist or otherwise Christian institution.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated that's really weird.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Old Man Game
that has nothing to do with your rights. thats the right of the owners.
@SexyWatt @Old Man Game except have your God recognized publically at the Thunder game
@Old Man Game
I don't think we are disallowing anyone from drinking out of any water fountains. Everyone has the exact same rights to do whatever they want.
@GervinReincarnated @Lost Ones @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars
i didn't think you were trying to stir anything up.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Lost Ones @MJOKC @GervinReincarnated
its my right to leave if they are doing something that i have a problem with. just as it is yours.
@Lost Ones @SexyWatt @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars People forget there are other denominations in OKC. I worked at Target in Yukon a few Christmases ago because we needed some extra money, and we had a couple come in looking for Hanukkah stuff. We didn't carry any. Also, my main professor at FSU is from OKC but he is a Reform Jew. In fact, his dad was the rabbi of the Jewish temple by Penn Square mall until he passed away a few years ago. Another example: When I was in HS, the person I set by in band at Western Heights was Muslim, and everyone treated him like he was weird every time Ramadan came around. I confess back in HS I was one of those persons, unfortunately. Needless to say, what Lost Ones says is true, there are in fact many people in OKC who are not evangelical Christians. Nevertheless, I wasn't trying to stir up anything when I said that. I know for many people their religion and/or political views are important to them, so I was throwing that out there in case the guy posing below who is thinking about moving to OKC is such a person
@SexyWatt But they had their own water fountains. And no one made them drink anyway. What's the big deal right?
@SexyWatt @Lost Ones @MJOKC @GervinReincarnated It does because it's the exact same situation. Of course the majority doesn't have a problem. I.e Christians aren't going to see why having a Christian prayer amongst a group of 18,000+ all of whom may not be Christians, is inconsiderate. Kind of like how early 19th and 20th century whites (those in charge anyways) thought separate but equal is acceptible.
I proposed a hypothetical that put the shoe on the other foot, and we see now you have a problem and talk about leaving
@SexyWatt @MJOKC @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated Same concept. just because its not offensive to you doesn't mean its not offensive to others.
@Lost Ones @MJOKC @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated
who is talking about segregation? that has nothing to do with this
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @MJOKC @Lost Ones @GervinReincarnated
if a muslim was brought in to pray or chant or whatever then i would leave. its really that simple.
@MJOKC @SexyWatt @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated How was Segregation inconsiderate? Non Blacks didn't have any issues
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars No chance. That'd last one game before all hell broke loose.
@MJOKC @Lost Ones @SexyWatt @GervinReincarnated Easy to say when part of the majority though, right?
@MJOKC @Lost Ones @SexyWatt @GervinReincarnated Would Christians be ok wit being forced to sit through some other religions rituals? Say if we bought in a Muslim to pray and chant?
@Lost Ones @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated
hmmmm i'm pretty sure i'm not the one being judgemental here. i'm not the one who has a problem with anything. that would be the rest of you who is saying prayer is inconsiderate.
@1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @Lost Ones @GervinReincarnated
Well if i ever start actually sleeping with men then you can tell me that i'm wrong. Until then i think we are all good.
@SexyWatt @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated Oh so you're a judgemental christian huh? http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/555322240.gif?key=520293&Expires=1359249432&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=VF-d3tr3mxFIKI~sYN2zZTHmvOBwPCapGu2337NKhlNDJ5~0f-xRHX39L5oyitnYIbYSgJOB8ANx6Pux5Wussy0CugSV5d2bec5Ob9E84GhIjfthGeH6-mXWhP~jenw3~uKNIIQ56D1RQshot7Iev9sUGoAXreaCt5nAla80M9I_
@SexyWatt @Lost Ones @GervinReincarnated you know the Christian faith doesn't smile on your same sex coupling (or eating pork or shellfish but you don't hear those ones talked about as much), you abomination,
@Lost Ones @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated
so you would prefer those people to go to Hell? i'm not real sure that that is in fact all that considerate.
@SexyWatt @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated Im not brainless I have a open mind for other religions.
@Lost Ones @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated
hard to believe you are a christian if you think prayer is inconsiderate.
@SexyWatt @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated everyone's not of christian faith so yes its weird and incredibly inconsiderate.(btw i am a christian)
@Lost Ones @1 Knee 4 Points 5 Rebounds 35 Million Dollars @GervinReincarnated
I don't think its weird. I think its a really good thing.