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TGR 86: Thunder in 2013

by Thunderground Radio on January 2, 2013 at 12:08 pm 110 Comments

DTTGRHappy New Year! This week Brad and Joel recap this past week’s games against the Heat, Mavs, Rockets and Suns, and discuss the following topics…

  • Any answers for LBJ?
  • Is Perk getting big minutes crucial to team chemistry?
  • Analyzing Reggie Jackson as a backup point guard
  • Should a beat writer for a team be a fan of that team?
  • Checking out the Western Conference standings

…and tons more.

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T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

http://dailythunder.com/2013/01/whats-up-with-russell-westbrooks-shot/

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @tydude And now I have to share....

BallSoHard
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SO, I heard the other day Westbrook is dating a future doctor. Thought that was interesting.

Fisha Status
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Have I been obnoxious in 2013?

 

If so, I apologize. I really do.

 

#DTox

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. Obnoxious Tricia is necessary. This place has a bunch of cool characters that mesh together (sometimes), and it wouldn't be the same if it didn't have that colorful personality....

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. And the tears. This place needs more tears.

Fisha Status
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 @Tronchaser  @EatSleepThunder LMAO I'm going to use that QQ from now on...

 

tell em to quit it. LOL

Tronchaser
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 @EatSleepThunder  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. For shame. As a computer nerd, I should know this.

 EatSleepThunder
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 @Tronchaser  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. "Contrary to popular belief, QQ is not a set of crying eyes. It actually originated with the advent of Warcraft II. On battlenet, you could press ALT+Q+Q to immediately exit the match and program. Thus the term "QQ" was to tell people to just quit because they are unskilled. The term later developed and lost it's origin and is usually mistaken as crying eyes. "

Nice try Tron.

Tronchaser
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 @EatSleepThunder  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch.

 

QQ

Tronchaser
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 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. No, please do not change. I'm in ***TEARS***  :)

Fisha Status
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 @Tronchaser LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

Ok...but on the record. It's all love for all ya'll. Sometimes -- I get a little...cray. I can admit that.

BallSoHard
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@<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. @Tronchaser KennyG may need to accept this apology

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

I wouldn't be surprised to see Presti use the Toronto pick on Poythress.

 

S4TISF4CTION
S4TISF4CTION 5pts

 @Fezzy That'd be interesting. 

Tronchaser
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Dropped the coin on tonight's game. Bringing my friend who is in town. Floor seats for me. WOOT!

T-Fred
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 @Tronchaser same section on Monday Night 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @tydude Fun, eh?  Did you go to the bar thingy underneath?

T-Fred
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 @Tronchaser yea right before the tip 

Fisha Status
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 @Tronchaser ::Takes out umbrella::

 

its raining

Tronchaser
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 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. Dolla dolla billz y'all.    I've always wanted to sit on the floor seats, this is my excuse. She goes back to L.V. later this week.

BallSoHard
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@Tronchaser Well, I'm sure we'll see you on TV then.

Tronchaser
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 @BallSoHard  @Tronchaser Nah, that wasn't floor, that was just Row A in the corner. This is actually center court on the floor.  I can't wait!

BallSoHard
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@Tronchaser Because didn't you have floor seats last game...and didnt Trish bring out the umbrella last time this annoucement was made? Just thought I clicked on a 2 day old thread for a sec.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @Tronchaser Why do you say that?

BallSoHard
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@Tronchaser @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. I'm confused. I'm having DT deja vu...

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

Brooks says same starting lineup tonight which Means Perk will play 

BallSoHard
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@tydude was there a doubt?

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

NBATV .@AtlHawks’ Larry Drew & the @LAClippers’ Vinny Del Negro were named the NBA Eastern and Western Conference Coaches of the Month. 1/2/13 2:06 PM

Keith00
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 @tydude Is it possible to give Coach of the Month to a player? I feel very awkward giving Vinny Del Negro props for simply not torpedoing a talented roster.

Fisha Status
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 @tydude They better watch out.

 

Avery was fired the month after he was named Coach of the month

Sustainable Parameters
Sustainable Parameters 5pts

on his wife's birthday too.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

I'm glad they brought up the article about Perk again. All throughout the read, all I could think of was, "Is it more important to be good for 30 minutes against 4 teams, or good for 30 minutes against 25 teams?" We may have to go through LA and Memphis to get out of the West, but is Perk really going to be out of shape or patently unhappy when those teams come around? Why is it more important to keep him happy than to be better? The other thing is a flawed idea that we couldn't beat LA/Memphis without Perk. Last I checked, we defend very nearly as well with Perk on the bench, but we score like gangbusters.

 

Even if we give up a few more buckets against big teams without Perk, wouldn't we be scoring much more than we give up? I love chemistry and intangibles as much as the next fan, but why fight so hard to make a case for Perkins relevance? Nobody was writing pages about why Thabo should keep starting over Harden, and moving Perk to the bench would be just as big of a boost.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

in order to guard lebron you need an in his Prime Artest...IMO his the only player i can think of that can give Lebron Hell while guarding him one on one...any other option and his dropping a near triple double on you every night...

 EatSleepThunder
EatSleepThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @kennygee90 Yo. Whatchu talkin bout? Prime kobe would lock lebron down and steal his lunch money, yo.

Fisha Status
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 @EatSleepThunder  @kennygee90 we talking about Afro Kobe or Tattoo Kobe.

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 I dont know what this means

kennygee90
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 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. im just saying every team needs to double Lebron or his beating you....so you just need to have more offensive firepower than the Heat or have a great big man who can defend the paint like his life depended on it(like Garnett) or your going to lose..there's no need for people to go off on OKC's coach for doubling him when there's nothing else you can do stop him

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90  @supreme35  @GervinReincarnated the simple answer is...move your feet.

 

If a player stays in front, they'll be okay.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @supreme35  @GervinReincarnated   @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. here's what im saying..first off putting KD on Lebron is more taxing for Durant than Lebron...Lebron attacks the paint and plays in the post..Durant is mainly a jumpshooter that can still blow by you..the problem with Lebron is that you can live with a jumpshooter scoring, you can't live with someone destroying you in the paint...thats a high percentage shot ..The Lakers have the same dilemma with Westbrook..the team can live with Durant shooting jumpers, but you can't survive Westbrook destroying you in the paint unless you have the offensive firepower to outscore the team...

supreme35
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 @kennygee90  @GervinReincarnated   @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. Like I said Kevin's foul trouble is not exclusively from guarding Lebron.. game 5 and Christmas are clearest examples of that. Kevin just has to play smarter against the Heat. Both Lebron and Kevin will score on each other. You can't say Lebron will own Kevin when Kevin is doing the same thing to Lebron. No denying that the Heat have an advantage because they have Battier to put on KD so Lebron doesn't have to guard Kevin every possession (Presti is probably shooting himself for not snagging Battier for that reason alone) but in terms of handling most of possession against Lebron the Thunder aren't a compete liability.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch.  @GervinReincarnated  i said he cant shut him down..i didnt say he cant guard him

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90  @GervinReincarnated you said Thabo cant guard Wade?

 

 

RumbleTime
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 @kennygee90  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. Durant can guard him one on one. In the game in OKC last March where we blew out the Heat, Durant slowed LBJ way down because he wasn't called for BS fouls 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @GervinReincarnated   @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. no he can't shut down wade..he can slow him down...the problem is Lebron will go off on durant...if durant could guard Lebron one on one without fouling then there's a chance..the problem is when Lebron is aggressive the only option is to foul him sometimes  ...

RumbleTime
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 @kennygee90  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. he's not big enough to guard Lebron, but he can shut down Wade. KD has to man up and guard Lebron or this team needs to go get LbM from the Bucks 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @GervinReincarnated   @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. what happened when he faced Lebron?

RumbleTime
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 @kennygee90  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. LOL. You obviously never heard of Thabo Sefelosha. Shut down CP3, Parker, gives Wade and Kobe hell. Get a clue Laker loser 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. you don't get it seriously...saying Lebron will score 30+ is true but he could go for 50+ ..your talking about the best player in the league!!!! he'll put you in foul trouble, expose your defense...and you still won't stop Wade or Bosh...if it was that easy Kobe wouldn't have 5rings now...all the teams would've just said play Kobe one on one and they'd be fine...it works when great players are on bad teams...it doesn't work when great players are on great teams.....If you can't slow Lebron down, he'll just kill  you in the 4th quarter...

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90  I'm going to type slower and hope that you understand me.

 

LEBRON will get his. He scores 30+ while being double teamed. So whats the difference guarding him 1 on 1? If everyone else is decently covered then he cant pass it. If everyone else scores below average because they are not WIDE OPEN cuz we've double teamed Lebron then we have a better chance of winning.

 

Please read this Twice before responding. You're giving me carpal tunnel/

supreme35
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 @kennygee90  @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. Kevin does as well on Lebron as Lebron does on Kevin. If you actually watch the games you'd know that Kevin gets in foul trouble away from Lebron more than on Lebron. Granted if he can't avoid offensive fouls, transition defense fouls, etc. guarding Lebron isn't going to help with him fouling out.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. If it doesn't then that means that team is better than you!!!! stop acting like you never watch basketball...do you really think thabo and durant can guard Lebron one on one? if you do your crazy...there's nothing you can do unless ibaka turns into garnett in his prime defensively...i'd take my chances with 3pt shooters rather than Lebron putting the best player on my team in foul trouble while still abusing him...

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 every other coach has been doing this and has it been working?!? LMAO

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

LOL...cmon Kenny. Ya Killin me man.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. you have no other choice...I rather have other players beat me than Lebron...its not that hard....almost every coach in the league does this

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 Thats all I need to say.

 

You're spewing rubbish. You know that Lebron is one of the best passers out the double team.... Yet you saying we should double.

 

I cant understand. Its like im in the basketball matrix.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. thats all you gotta say huh ..

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 ask the Bucks... dude.

 

LMAO gettoutahere

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 ask Detroit  ...dude.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. thats your problem...just cause you think that you can pick a player and shut him down doesn't mean it will happen....guard him one on one and its as good as losing ... thabo and durant would be in foul trouble the whole game..Wade and Bosh are not James Harden dude....these guys can go off for 15-25 pts in a quarter...its nice saying that pick a player and shut him down but when you dont have the players to do it, its stupid

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 You're delirious.

 

You also didn't read what I said. The Miami heat didnt shut down KD or Russ. They picked James Harden. I said pick a player. Bosh and or Wade can be guarded.

 

Stop being crazy laker.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. shut down who? Wade and Bosh.. your out of your mind if you think you can do that..... you don't have any players who can shut anyone down in OKC and there are no players in this league that can shut these guys down..Lebron isn't playing with the Cavaliers so stop acting like you actually are saying something that will work...

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 Why focus on the person that "no one can guard".

 

We should James Harden them....shut down someone else on the squad -- Bosh, Wade, Mike, Ray....are all pretty guardable.  Lebron and Chalmers can't beat OKC by themselves.

 

The.End.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch. how am i wrong? explain any other way to guard this dude then

supreme35
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 @<--Dont Believe Me? Just Watch.  @kennygee90 lmao.

Fisha Status
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 @kennygee90 oh okay now I understand.

 

 

...and youre wrong.

 

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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