ESPN logoTrueHoop Network
An ESPN Affiliate
Daily Thunder.com
  • Home
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact
  • Team
    • Salaries
    • Roster
    • Schedule & Events
  • Commenting Guidelines

Thunder make quick work of sluggish Nuggets, 117-97

by Royce Young on January 16, 2013 at 10:59 pm 392 Comments

BOX SCORE

It’s probably a pretty good thing when a win is so uneventful that it’s hard to really think of much to write about. Really at no point tonight, other than when it was 0-0 and the ball was being thrown in the air by ref Bill Kennedy, was this game in doubt.

Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant picked up right where they left off in Phoenix where they scored 47 of 51 in the second half, scoring 24 of Oklahoma City’s first 26 tonight. Westbrook had 16 of those in the first quarter. The Nuggets as a team had 18.

“I thought we came out with great energy from the start on both ends of the floor,” Scott Brooks said. “We set the tone early with our defense and it allowed us to score 30 points in that first quarter, but it was good basketball.”

Westbrook finished with 32 — in 28 minutes — hitting 12-20 overall and 7-13 from 10 feet or more. He had the midrange game going and he was getting to the rim.

“What can you do?” Durant said about defending Westbrook when has his midrange going. “He can shoot a jumpshot, you pressure him and he can go to the rim. It’s a nightmare when he’s making that jumpshot. Hopefully he continues t keep making them. This game, last game, Laker game — he was terrible in Portland. Nah, but these last few games he’s been really good at scoring the basketball and taking pressure off of everybody else.”

Brooks went to his bench exclusively with 1:54 left in the first quarter and the Thunder holding a 10-point lead. But instead of the recent trend of the second unit failing to preserve big leads the starters hand over, tonight, they expanded on it. The final two minutes the Thunder outscored Denver 8-2 to take the lead to 16 heading to the second quarter. That right there maybe is a significant storyline.

“I thought that first quarter [the second unit] did a great job of extending that lead,” Brooks said obviously.

What was the difference? To me, it was pretty simple: Kevin Martin finally did what’s needed to be done with the second unit: He took over play. He asserted himself as a dominant handler and didn’t just linger around the 3-point line waiting for Reggie Jackson to set him up. He scored on a driving layup, then made another layup in transition and then knocked down a 3 set up by Jackson.

Roll over to the second quarter, and it continued. The lead went from 16 to 19 before Durant checked back in with 10:26 in the second. That’s +9 for the bench, which is terrific. Especially considering Denver has a pretty stout second group. With Martin in rhythm, he continued on even after Durant checked back in, knocking down another 3 and finishing another layup.

That’s been the plan all along is to sort of let Martin dominate the bench group, but unlike James Harden, he hasn’t seemed to take ownership over it. Harden relished his time on the floor being The Man, getting to play alpha dog for four or five minutes. Martin has seemed to sort of latch onto his role playing as support to Westbrook and Durant and hasn’t been able to transition between third banana and alpha very easily.

Martin finished the game with 20 on 8-12 shooting, including 2-3 from 3. He tacked on a few points late by cherry-picking, but he was much more aggressive and less of a spot-up guy. Hopefully, that becomes a bit more of a trend.

Obviously, you can’t really dissect this game without acknowledging that the Nuggets were on the second night of a back-to-back that including them going to overtime less than 24 hours ago. They clearly were lethargic early and the Thunder sensed it, and pounced.

“We knew these guys were playing back-to-back, playing in overtime last night so we wanted to give it to them and make them make quick decisions with the ball,” Durant said. “They are so good when they pass and get into the lane and kick out, so we just wanted to pressure them and make them take tough shots.”

(The Nuggets have been playing their best basketball of the season though, winning six straight. So that’s something to also consider.)

Now it’s on to the road for six away from The Peake, with a couple of challenging stops included. This is a pretty good sendoff though. Blow out a divisional opponent at home to continue a recent trend of dominance over them. And maybe find a little bit of something with that second unit in the meantime.

NOTES:

  • Maybe the most interesting thing: Despite the blowout, Eric Maynor didn’t play. As to why, Scott Brooks said no real reason for it, just that he wanted to give Jackson and the young guys a little more time on the floor. “I know what Eric does. He’s been very professional in a tough situation. He wants to be out there and play with our guys. But he still works and he’s still looking for an opportunity and usually it comes around. You just got to keep working and staying positive and he has.”
  • Early in the third quarter there was a weird shot clock violation, which really isn’t huge news. What is though, is the way Bill Kennedy completely took over the arena with his explanation. He blew his whistle and the arena went dead silent as he shouted out the explanation. It was incredible. Best moment of the night.
  • Right after that came moment number two of the night: Perk isolated on Koufos and proceeded to back him down for like 30 seconds, and then hit a pretty nice baseline turnaround jumper. The crowd stood up and absolutely roared after it, as if it was a massive poster of something. Cracked me up.
  • Durant on the play: “He when he started doing it, I was a little upset. Because that’s not what he do. But he made a tremendous move and that’s probably the most excited I’ve been in a game for a long, long time. I was still marveling at that play three or four possessions later.”
  • After the game in the locker room, Serge Ibaka was challenging Perk to a game of one-on-one, obviously because of Perk’s move. Perk first told him he’s too old for one-on-one, then said, “I don’t want to kill your confidence man.”
  • Perk on it: “That was the only play to make right there. I couldn’t get it to KD, I couldn’t get it to Russ, I just had to make a play so that’s what I done.” On if we can expect to see more of it: “Nah, nah. Once every 30 games.”
  • Ibaka absolutely owns the defensive paint against the Nuggets. He had five blocks in 27 minutes and basically sealed off any penetration from Ty Lawson or Andre Iguodala.
  • KD picked up his seventh technical of the season after dunking on Kenneth Faried. All he did was pull a little staredown-yell move.
  • KD: “We just try to play up our level. We have a level we want to reach every single game. It’s the Thunder way of basketball. Defense first, playing off our defense and moving the ball. Guys are buying in. If you have a team full of guys that buy in, anything can happen. I learned that from Ray Lewis.”
  • I saw Kevin Martin dunk three times tonight. For real. No hoax.
  • Perry Jones shared the court with Anthony Randolph tonight for the fourth quarter. I hope he paid close attention to Randolph because if he’s not careful, that could be his Ghost of Christmas Future.
  • DeAndre Liggins is just everywhere, all the time. I think he’s standing behind right now while I’m typing this.
  • Nick Collison sat out the second half with a sprained right ankle. He’s day to day, but will likely play Friday.
  • Corey Brewer’s headband is so low, it covers his eyebrows. He was about an inch from playing blindfolded.
  • Little thing: When a ref clearly gets an all-ball call wrong and knows it, they always go with the “body” or “push” foul description. That’s what Pat Fraher pulled on Liggins stuffed of Randolph in the fourth. Everyone saw it was all-ball, but Fraher called it a push.
  • Reggie Jackson really has pretty poor shooting form when you break it down. Arms spread out, took much motion to get the ball loaded into a good release spot.
  • Hasheem Thabeet went 1-4 at the line tonight. He started the season a solid 20-25 (80.0 percent), but has since gone 7-17 (41.1 percent).
  • I just noticed tonight how crazy long Jeremy Lamb’s arms are.
  • Kosta Koufos really needs to let it go and just shave his head.He’s really not fooling anyone with that combforward. But in all seriousness, what a find by the Nuggets with Koufos. Very nice low post finisher.
  • Brian Davis Line of the Night via @ThunderBDSays: “He was so wide open he could have had an entire baguette.. Forget the sandwich!”

Next up: At Dallas on Friday.

Categories
Recap
Previous Post Nuggets vs. Thunder: Pregame Primer
Next Post Thursday Bolts – 1.17.13
392 comments
  Livefyre
  • Get Livefyre
  • FAQ
Sign in
+ Follow
Post comment
 
Link
Newest | Oldest
datman7
datman7 5pts

The Thunder can not be stop lately, only team we have trouble with is Miami.  30 - 8 right now and looking foward for a run to  the final this season . Durant is still continuing playing his game. Westbrook taking less shots , more assist and continuing his legacy. Thabo defense is unstoppable and  keep stopping the  best scorer on the court. Ibaka actually scoing more and blocking. Perkins just there. Kevin martin and the rest of bench helping the starters out.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://dailythunder.com/2013/01/thursday-bolts-1-17-13/

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm not sure I've seen anyone like Liggins. I don't think his intensity is matched by anyone. He kind of reminds me of a Tony Allen lite. He is definitely better than what Ivey was last year.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard

 bigger than ivy

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

And for fun....

 

http://bkref.com/tiny/8N00m

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser

 get the whattt outta here with this comparison lol

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser One of these thing is not like the other, one of these things does not belong...

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @justin_mia  @Tronchaser 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ect-kgxBb4M

 

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

We still need another scorer with the second unit. Collison and Martin aren't losing minutes so we have 3 choices on what position that scorer can play. I think the main reason people are asking for a 3/4 scorer is because when we play the Heat and Perk is ineffective we have someone to get those minutes. So if we got a 3/4 that can score some and defend we're not putting Ibaka or Martin on Lebron or having Ibaka trying to guard Battier or Chalmers. The problem with that is you have to find a 3/4 that can score/defend who doesn't make much money that a team is willing to trade. The list is not long of players who meet all those requirements. PG is a differemt story though. its a little easier to find cheap scoring PG's. Jackson hasn't been bad but he hasn't been great. He can't shoot the ball. He defends pretty well but we need another guy that can score. Fisher filled that role last year and hit some huge shots. Cook had 2 or 3 huge 3's in that one Spurs game that really helped us win a game. As much progress as Jackson has made he's not a good shooter and we can't count on him to hit shots in a tight game. Our guys solid against the Suns, Mavs, tired Nuggets etc... Unfortunately we'll be playing the Grizzlies, Clippers, Spurs and Heat in the playoffs.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @okcjim I don't care if the 3/4 can score, just needs to play smart defense

This comment has been deleted

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @MJOKC  @okcjim Would you say no to LRMAM?

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@Fezzy @okcjim I think Perry showed some smart D last night...but he also is not good at post-up defending.

mikecal
mikecal 5pts

 @Keith00  @BallSoHard  @Fezzy  @okcjim Didn't KD go into foul trouble a;,ost every finals game he guarded leBron in? We need another scorer man. You can hope all want we can do it with the KD, Westbrook, Martin, & Ibaka but it's not enough just look at Xmas game. Jackson to me is not a guy I want to rely on during playoffs. Heat have those role players from last year and they added RAY ALLEN. Also Fisher shots not lucky bc he has been clutch his entire career. Not a lucky night bro. I do not want to watch Heat win again bc we refused to get another guy. Just start playing Lamb if we won't add any pieces. he can shoot well enough and get him going now

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @Keith00  @BallSoHard  @okcjim Jeff Green was not a net positive in his role. In a sixth man role, I think he would have done much better

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard  @Fezzy  @okcjim Perry still plays like a weak SF, which is going to be problematic unless he fixes it. He's a poor man's Jeff Green right now, and Jeff Green has never been a net positive for a team.

 

Also, KD did fine guarding Lebron in the past. I don't see an issue there. The only problem is limiting fouls. But KD isn't likely to foul out anyway.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @Fezzy  @okcjim Perry is definitely in my future vision. I just want someone now to put in front of LeBron because I don't see KD being able to do it 

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@okcjim jackson this year fg 42% 3pt 28% ts 49% fisher last year fg 34% 3pt 31% ts 43% jackson is scoring better than fisher

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@f5alcon is Jackson going to hit the shots fisher did in the playoffs?

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @okcjim Well, I do think it's fair to point out development. KD has become arguably the most efficient scorer in his stratosphere of workload ever - even moreso than last year. We are finally utilizing Ibaka's offense and it's been very efficient. Martin isn't far off Harden's numbers, and shoots even better on threes. Even Westbrook is turning the corner again and making his shots.

 

Like I said, you can never have too much shooting. But, the realities of minutes and positions limits how much we can actually upgrade. Would a shooter in Jackson's place improve the team? There's certainly evidence for it. But what consistent, quality shooters are available that can play PG, won't mind minimal minutes, and fit within our salary constraints? It's always easier said than done. The only two position that will even have backup time available in the playoffs are PG and C. SG-SF-PF is just too stacked. KD will play 42 MPG at SF and PF. Ibaka will play 40 mpg at PF and C. Thabo and Martin will eat up all the SG and backup SF minutes.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

 @Keith00We need more pieces though.  We had all of those guys last year and still needed others.  The others (Chalmers, Battier, Miller) were the difference in the series last year.  I want better others this year so we have a better chance of winning! 

 

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @okcjim  @Keith00 And my only real point is that we already have a number of better shooters. Martin shoots better from deep than Harden. KD is shooting better than last year. Thabo is getting more consistent and taking more shots. Ibaka is really working his jumper this year. You can never have too much shooting, don't get me wrong, but I think the Fisher shots were very fluky. As such, given our significant 3pt shooting uptick as a team, I don't see the Fisher jumpers as a missing piece anymore.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@Keith00 I definitely don't want fisher, I want a better shooter than Jackson and Fisher was just my example of why we needed one.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @okcjim  @Keith00 I just don't see the value in trying to replicate Fisher when overall he was a bad player. Maybe if we go small with Russ-Thabo-Martin-KD-Ibaka iinstead of Fisher-Russ-Thabo-KD-Ibaka, we don't NEED a bad player to get lucky. Increase shots from Ibaka-Thabo (a better shooter than Fisher now), and we don't need that.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@Keith00 he shot much better in the playoffs. If Reggie can give us 42 and 38(%) then I'd be satisfied. There's no way that's happening though.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @okcjim  @Keith00 That's not entirely true the way you lay it out. He happened to hit shots that ended up being big because of the score. But he wasn't shooting well overall in the first place. If you take away his numerous misses, suddenly the shots he hits may not be as big. We couldn't have predicted he would hit the shots he did, so saying we need a "big shot" taker is odd. By all accounts he was a bad player that happened to hit a few shots at the right time.

 

There's no real reason to suggest Reggie (or someone else) couldn't be just as lucky.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

Just like the Heat have Lebron, Wade and Bosh and they needed Chalmers, Battier and Miller hitting.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

@Keith00 we'll we had KD, Russ, Harden and Ibaka last year and needed him hitting those shots.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @okcjim Ideally, no backup would be tasked with hitting gamechanging shots. I'd rather put the ball in Russ-KD-Martin-Ibaka's hands.

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

Fisher shot 42 and 38 in playoffs and had a few games he got hot that the Thunder probably wouldn't have won without his shooting. Do you feel comfortable putting Jackson in those same spots? Where we need some shots to fall or we might lose? I don't.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

"Guys are buying in. If you have a team full of guys that buy in, anything can happen. I learned that from Ray Lewis.”....perfect opportunity for Ray Lewis plug, KD.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

what are people projections on our record for this upcoming 6 game road trip? I think the back to back against the Clippers/Warriors is going to be tough. I'm going with 4-2 splitting the back-back and dropping one to sacramento because that seems like the typical Thunder.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @bmuelle22 I think 4-2 as well, but I think we lose @Denver and @LA. Denver is going to be fresh and looking to run us out of the building. Their huge road-home splits over the years shows this works pretty darn well. It will be close, but they'll get their revenge game. @LA I think is just going to be one we play poorly and drop at the end. This will spark all sorts of "LA is BACK" garbage, and they'll proceed to lose their next 5 games.

 

I think we are better than the Clippers, and the Warriors without Curry won't have the firepower to beat us even on a back to back.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @Keith00  @Denver  @LA forgot they won't have Curry, good point.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

@bmuelle22 it depends on the role players, if we have good production from 2/3 of martin/thabo/ibaka we can beat all of those teams, if it is more of the kd/russ show 4-2 or 3-3

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @bmuelle22 4 and 2 through this stretch would be a WIN in my book.  These are some pretty good, tough teams we're playing.  I'd take it.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

lol when did Indiana make it to 3rd in the west?

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW2Yw2X8fmo @bmuelle22 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @bmuelle22 They're in the East.. halfway decent basketball will get you home court in the PO's.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

east*

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

Three year projections:

 

It looks like to me Brooks as installed a three year system for the development of our young guys. I root this all the way back to KD's growth with the team. Year one is almost a know your role. Year two is to focus on or two things for that role. finally, year three is to accelerate their growth by giving that player more freedom.

With that in mind, if we keep our young core of Orton, Liggins, Reggie, PJ3, Lamb what are our expectations for their growth?

 

Mine:  PTS, rbs, ast

Reggie : A 8,3,3 type of player who is focused on being a dynamic passer , rebounding, and driving threat. I don’t expect his shot to be any better, however. 15 mpg

 

Pj3: A 6, 6,2 type of player who will focus on put backs and rebounding with a smooth jumper a la Serge with no blocking. He will become more of a high flier and garbage than anything. Nick collision replacement, just not as super smart. 12mpg

 

Liggins: A 5,5,3 type of player that averages around 11 mins a game. He will be the defensive spark used as a situational player off the bench. He is nearly at his max. 15mpg

 

Lamb: I look at his play and it seems he is focusing on being more of a play maker with a good mid range game. He will be a 10,2,3 type of player in 18 mpg.

 

Orton: ridding pine and a d-league pro. I don’t expect him to be on this team but I’d be nice either way.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Watching Denver dog it and go through the motions last night in person on the second night of a back to back...has made me appreciate our Thunder even more. Yeah, there are the occasional nights where OKC struggles, but it is very rare OKC doesn't work through that and make a game out of it. At least give the fans in opposing cities' building some value for the money spent to be there. Give them a show. We almost always get a show from our Thunder...even in losses.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@El Prez it was their 4th game in 6 days, and we are a lot better than them.

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @El Prez Maybe their fans should sue.  *rolls eyes*

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Tronchaser  @El Prez 

Maybe Prez should sue FRED?

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

well looks like Detroit will end up drafting Te'o' They tend to gravitate to the nut cases with their high draft picks; Charles Rodgers, Suh, Fairley...

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @bmuelle22 As a Lion fan, that's actually true and sad. Though in this case I don't think they take Te'o. He didn't show well in the NC game, and Detroit has huge holes on the O-line and in the secondary. If they don't take Milliner, Warmack, or an OT, I would be shocked.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @Keith00 they desperately need a secondary player. I'm tired of having to you some 3rd string nobody as a replacement since everyone is injured.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @bmuelle22 But they've been so terrible in drafting or assessing DBs. The best corner they've probably had in the last decade was an over the hill Dre Bly. Houston is at best a solid #2, and their safeties have been bad forever. The one time they actually get someone with talent (Delmas), he can't stay healthy for more than a game at a time.

d21
d21 5pts

 @bmuelle22 rex ryan will draft him and then he will get a tattoo of the girlfriend wearing te'o shirt 

AlexR44
AlexR44 5pts

 @d21  @bmuelle22

 He already has an imaginary tatto of Te'o wearing his wife's sandals.

Back to Top

Headlines

  • Fisher’s lawyer claims conflict of interest for Hunter
  • Russell Westbrook is off crutches, says ‘I’m back’
  • Gervin on KD: ‘I think he’ll be much better than me’
  • Report: Mo Cheeks hired as Pistons head coach
  • Nike donating all profits of KD V Elites through 6/15
  • Report: KD dropping agent, expected to change to Jay-Z
  • Mo Cheeks the ‘frontrunner’ for the Pistons job
Daily Thunder
  • Home
  • About
  • Advertise
  • Contact

Copyright © 2008-2012 DailyThunder.com
Designed by iThemes Creative & Hosted by Site5