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Thunder Player Power Rankings: Rebounding

by Royce Young on January 14, 2013 at 12:32 pm 254 Comments

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The week in review: three wins and a loss. But the loss, man oh man, the loss.

Losing to the Wizards was really bad, but to the Thunder’s credit, they’ve bounced back and won their last three games. All you can do when you lose a game you shouldn’t.

Rankings:

1. Kevin Durant (Last week: 1)

Durant’s performance against the Lakers was maybe of the most impressive takeovers I’ve ever seen from him. He was just ruthless. He completely shredded the Lakers and with him cooking the way he was, if he had decided he wanted 60, he could’ve gotten 60.

But something that really stood out in the Lakers game, and then the Blazers game, is just how important Durant is to the Thunder’s on-court success. Yeah, I know that sounds dumb because duh, of course he’s important. The stats show it (the Thunder are a net 8.6 points per 100 better with KD on the floor), but visually, you can just see what Durant means. Even when he’s not carrying the load, he’s making his four teammates better too.

I thought Durant had a decent case for MVP last season, but ultimately, it was just destined to be LeBron’s award. I feel that way about KD this season. He’s taking his game to new heights, but more importantly, he’s taking his teammates with him.

(Also: Did you know over his last five games, KD is averaging 5.8 assists per game? Pretty good.)

2. Russell Westbrook (Last week: 2)

Westbrook went 4-17 against Washington, then bounced back to go 17-35 over his next two games. But then he went 5-21 against the Blazers. What happened? He’s Russell Westbrook, that’s what. All part of the Russell Coaster.

Huge positive about Westbrook’s week though: He had 36 assists to just nine turnovers. That’s really good, and not just for Westbrook. That’s really good for anybody.

3. Kevin Martin (Last week: 4)

It seemed like Martin exorcised some of his road demons with a strong performance against the Lakers, but he couldn’t string two road games together as he went just 1-8 from four points against the Blazers.

I’m starting to get a little nervous feeling about Martin and the playoffs. For the most part, he’s been outstanding in his role off the bench. He’s averaging a solid number, shooting good percentages and adding a nice punch to go with Westbrook and Durant. But then there are nights like Sunday where he’s entirely eliminated from the offense and you honestly wonder if he’ll ever score a point again. I just don’t have a hard time picturing a playoff series where Martin is eliminated from the Thunder equation for two or three games.

Martin’s version of “being aggressive” seems to be hoisting deep 3-pointers, and not really attacking the paint. He acknowledged that his role on this team is more of a shooter than a scorer, but when he’s struggling, he seems to try and shoot himself out of it. There’s no doubt he’s a brilliant scorer. Just a tad inconsistent at times and seemingly, not all that difficult to remove from the Thunder offensive equation.

4. DeAndre Liggins (Last week: 11)

Too high? I’ve got serious Liggansanity right now. His effort and intensity is contagious, and obvious. You can’t watch Liggins and not be struck with how hard he’s playing.

Question is, why wasn’t it good enough for the Magic to keep him? If he’s truly this good of a defender, at a position where elite defense is very valuable, why was he having so much trouble finding a roster? I think it’s this: For a team like Orlando, using a roster spot on a specialist isn’t ideal. Thabo is super successful with the Thunder because he’s able to fill a very specific role. That same idea applies to Liggins. The Thunder don’t need or expect anything from him other than hard-nosed defense and effort. Durant, Westbrook, Martin and Ibaka take care of the rest. So giving a roster spot to that kind of guy is no problem because the Thunder have filled most every other need.

I mentioned the Tony Allen comparison in the recap and I think it really fits. Liggins just needs to do a job. And he understands that. Defend, rebound, take open shots when you get them, cut hard to the basket and defend some more.

The problem is, Liggins does basically all the same things Thabo does. He doesn’t necessarily fill a need for the Thunder. He’s not a bench scorer, not a creator, not anything other than an energy guy. Not that that’s a bad thing, but it’s probably going to limit his potential use going forward.

5. Kendrick Perkins (Last week: 6)

Shh, don’t tell anyone, but Perk is averaging 8.3 rebounds a game in January. Remove the Wolves game where he played only 13 minutes because of foul trouble and had just one rebound, and he’s averaging 9.5 a game. That’s like a real number for a starting center. And it’s in only 23.9 minutes a game, so expand it to per 36, and Perk is averaging 12.5 so far in January.

Here’s my theory with that: I think it’s directly related to KD’s rebounding numbers being down to 6.4 per game in January. Take note during a game how many rebounds Durant comes in and takes from either Serge Ibaka or Perk. It used to be a lot early in the season. Now, he’s doing it a little less. Rebounds can be kind of a dumb stat sometimes, because a lot of getting them or not is happenstance and luck. You can block your man out and do everything right, but the ball hits long and bounces to Westbrook, then what are you going to do?

But regardless of how he’s getting them or not, Perk has played better in January. That doesn’t mean he should necessarily fit into OKC’s best crunchtime lineups every time, but his play has been encouraging.

6. Nick Collison (Last week: 5)

I was talking to a league insider recently and he floated this theory to me: Scott Brooks is keeping Collison’s minutes down because he doesn’t want to overwork him prior to the postseason. The expectation being that Collison’s role will be increased in the playoffs.

I don’t know if that’s the case, but I sure hope it is. Outside of defending bigger post scorers, Collison accomplishes essentially everything Perk does, but adds in an offensive dimension. The pick-and-pop, the finishing at the rim, the passing, the screening — Collison is a lot more versatile. I get Brooks’ obsession with playing Perk because it’s necessary to maintain a certain feel around his team, but when the games get more important, it’ll be interesting to see which way he goes.

7. Thabo Sefolosha (Last week: 7)

After Sunday’s game against the Blazers, more than a few people asked about DeAndre Liggins and his impact on Thabo. One person phrased it this way: Is this potentially an Alex Smith/Colin Kaepernick situation?

Other than missing a game, Thabo had a pretty terrific week. Offensively, he averaged 11.0 points on 65 percent shooting, including 5-8 from 3. Defensively, well, of course he was great on that end. He locked up Kobe Bryant and he harassed the Wolves (three steals).

The game Liggins played against the Blazers Thabo has played probably 20 times this season. It just stuck out because Liggins was new and the performance was unexpected. We take an 11-point and strong defensive effort from Thabo for granted.

So if you’re one of those people asking the question about Liggins taking Thabo’s place, I’d advise you to kindly zip it. There’s no doubt Liggins was excellent against Portland and you can see what the Thunder love about him. And yeah, there may be more minutes ahead for him in the future. But taking Thabo’s place? Hold on, I need to bang my head against this table for 10 minutes.

8. Serge Ibaka (Last week: 3)

Ibaka set a career-high against the Wizards with 26 points, but it came in a miserable losing effort. Then, for the first time since the opening two games of the season, Ibaka registered back-to-back single-digit games. And hurt his chest and had to miss a game for the first time since Feb. 24, 2010.

9. Reggie Jackson (Last week: 8)

I have no idea what to make of Jackson. One minute I’m thinking he’s a decent solution, the next I’m dreaming of trades or for Eric Maynor to retake the role. I can see the potential in Jackson as a playmaker, but it’s about whether or not he’s playoff worthy. Can the Thunder rely on him to play big minutes in a postseason game? Do you feel confident turning the team over to him for a couple minutes in the Western Conference finals?

10. Hasheem Thabeet (Last week: 10)

Still can’t get over the lineup last night where Thabeet was playing power forward.

11. Perry Jones III (Last week: N/A)

Hey! He played! And had a cool dunk. That was pretty much the extent of Jones’ participation, but still, it was nice to know Scott Brooks hasn’t forgot about his existence.

12. Eric Maynor (Last week: 10)

Should Maynor consider accepting a D-League assignment? He said pretty emphatically that he had no interest in that, but for a guy struggling to recover from an injury and clearly lacking in comfort and confidence, wouldn’t it make sense for him to run to Tulsa and play a couple 35-minute games and get to feeling better?

On the other hand, Maynor is a big part of the Thunder’s locker room. He communicates a ton with Westbrook and Jackson, and has great interaction with everyone. Maybe he sees his value more in being part of the team still.

13. Jeremy Lamb (Last week: N/A)

Kind of thought Lamb might see some minutes this week, but alas, DeAndre Liggins trumped him.

Inactives: Daniel Orton

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RRRWHOAAAA
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http://dailythunder.com/2013/01/thunder-vs-suns-pregame-primer/

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WHAT DID I DO?

ThunderChick2010
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 @RRRWHATEVER 

You wouldn't be so tasteless.

RRRWHOAAAA
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wasnt me btw... what happend tho?

TrippingBilly
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 @RRRWHATEVER Some Devil

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ThunderChick2010
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 @sandpiperair 

Not the way to make a good first impression . . .

Tronchaser
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 @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair ..and it's gone.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @RRRWHATEVER  @ThunderWins  @Tronchaser  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair OMG what ....WHO WOULD DO THAT. THATS SO STUPID.

RRRWHOAAAA
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 @ThunderWins  @Tronchaser  @<--A Benz can make me dance  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair that move was just gay

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @RRRWHATEVER  @ThunderWins  @<--A Benz can make me dance  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair Ole boy here put up a fake link saying that KD tore his ACL.

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @RRRWHATEVER  @Tronchaser  @<--A Benz can make me dance  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair They joke about injuries to a Thunder player and I think that was pretty low with a fake link.

RRRWHOAAAA
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 @ThunderWins  @Tronchaser  @<--A Benz can make me dance  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair what did happen, btw?

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @Tronchaser  @<--A Benz can make me dance  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair No one should EVER joke about injuries. 

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts

 @<--A Benz can make me dance  @ThunderWins  @ThunderChick2010  @sandpiperair This boy sandpiperair be Shaqtin' A Fool, that's what's happenin!

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ThunderWins  @ThunderChick2010  @Tronchaser  @sandpiperair What happpen?!?

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @ThunderChick2010  @Tronchaser  @sandpiperair Everyone back to your usual DT conversations - nothing to see here.

ThunderChick2010
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 @Tronchaser  @sandpiperair 

Leaving everyone to wonder . . .

Lost Ones
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 @sandpiperair spam

ThunderWins
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 @sandpiperair THAT IS NOT FUNNY

Fezzy
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All of UK's freshman are likely to come out due to Calipari's recruiting class. We may be able to pick up Cauley-Stein if he drops out of the lottery

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @Fezzy Anyone a cats fan who have been watching him?

Impressions please

RRRWHOAAAA
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 @ThunderWins  @Fezzy I think he looks good. taller than noel. super athletic, all state wide reciever in highschool. still learning the game, but could be a very serviceable nba center IMO.  I think if his stock doesnt rise he will be one of the biggest steals in the draft

Keith00
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 @Fezzy  @ThunderWins  @RRRWHATEVER I'd certainly take a flier on Stein with a later pick. Dallas or our own, sure. He's more naturally fluid that guys his size, which is probably from football, also his soft hands. But he still needs a lot of refinement defensively. His offensive advantage over Noel seems to have a lot to do with simply not being so robotic on offense.

Fezzy
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 @RRRWHATEVER I don't know what it is about Len that I'm wary of, but I'm really not feeling it

RRRWHOAAAA
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I'd still rather have Len, but Stein can have a long nba career. it will take him a few years to put it all together tho

Fezzy
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 @ThunderWins  @RRRWHATEVER I'm not sure who you are referring to but yes to either Noel or Stein

ThunderWins
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 @Fezzy  @RRRWHATEVER Let say he drops like Sullinger drops - we take him to develop to play along side Ibaka one day?

Fezzy
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 @RRRWHATEVER  @ThunderWins I'd still take Noel over him any day though. 

RRRWHOAAAA
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 @ThunderWins  @Fezzy has more of a natural nba position than noel

Lost Ones
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 @ThunderWins  @RRRWHATEVER  @Fezzy he does.

ThunderWins
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 @RRRWHATEVER  @Fezzy I heard he has more refined offensive game then Noel?

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @ThunderWins  @Fezzy He's huge and pretty athletic. He makes Noel look small. He's also raw, doesn't have any refined post moves nor is he a great defender. He's big and takes up space, but he's more of a team-defender than individual. He seems to have a lot of energy though, and seems like he could have a place in the league. Thing is, he's seems more energetic than Noel. Noel gets more shots, but I think Cauley-Stein stands out a lot more when they are both playing.

Lost Ones
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 @Fezzy Cauley one of those guys who i think is going to be a slow burner like tyson chandler.

d21
d21 5pts

Tulsa 66ers ‏@Tulsa66ers

The All-Showcase teams were selected by a panel of NBA Scouts and NBA D-League personnel following the four-day, 16-game event.

 

d21
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Tulsa 66ers ‏@Tulsa66ers

The @nbadleague has named Jeremy Lamb to the All-NBA D-League Showcase First Team and Daniel Orton to the Third Team

ThunderWins
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 @d21  @Tulsa66ers Every Lamb has his day.

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Durant now .297 WS/48.  LeBron, Jordan, Kareem, Wilt the only ones to do that for a whole season.

ThunderWins
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 @justin_mia KD, I have  Naismith on line one.

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 @ThunderWins Durant's season is flying to far under the radar.  He's been amazing.  If this team wins anywhere close to 60 games it'll be one of the best wing seasons of the last 20 years.

ThunderWins
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 @cemitten  @justin_mia IF KD was in NY or LA wouldn't he have the MVP wrapped up by now?

long arm of the law
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 @justin_mia  @ThunderWins He's been getting progressively better as the season has gone on. Phenomenal.

[censored]
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 @FF_pickups Kinda like being a fan of any great player during Jordan's career.  "Hakeem is having an all time great season for a C... but Jordan's better"

[censored]
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 @FF_pickups Yeah, he's LeBron.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia  I agree with you and you could still make a great case that LeBron is the MVP. :-(

[censored]
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 @ThunderWins Assuming he keeps up his current pace.

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

Off Topic-but the more I think about it. the more McLamore out of Kansas would be a flat out stud for the Thunder. He can shoot lights out. Be a perfect 1st round pick for OKC.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @Mr_posey  Noel!

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @Fezzy Will he slide is the ? Doubtful

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @Fezzy  @d21 that was a direct quote from Bilas today on Poythress

Mr_posey
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 @Fezzy  @d21 Poythress is like McAdoo in a way. He was hyped coming out of high school and has been very good. However, he has not been as good as we said he was going to be. Coming into the season, I projected Poythress to be among the top candidates for SEC Player of the Year. After 15 games, Poythress is averaging 13 points, 6 rebounds and shooting 63 percent from the field. But over his past five games, he has averaged 10 points on only 5.5 shots per game. Poythress has been inconsistent against the best teams. He is a spectacular athlete who can physically dominate an opponent with his size (6-7, 239), athleticism and length, but he lacks a position and an understanding of how to impact games consistently. Poythress is not a natural perimeter player nor a natural back-to-the-basket post. But he is a freshman playing with other freshmen, none of whom have it figured out yet. Poythress is going to get there, and will be a first-round pick in this year's draft. I believe he will get there this season as a college player, but he is not there yet. To date, he has not yet lived up to our hype.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @d21  @Mr_posey  If both are available, I'd rather have Poythress

d21
d21 5pts

 @Mr_posey   @Fezzy right now mclemore is top 3 in most mock drafts. i would love Anthony Bennett ,he is going to be a stud.

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @Fezzy You're right. He also could be 6-7. I think Noel is a lock for top 3, one of the few locks.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @Mr_posey  McLemore very well could be top 3 haha

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Mr_posey  I think we have enough SG prospects 

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @Lost Ones Who?

 

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @ThunderWins  @Lost Ones Come on, is that going to hurt his draft? cuz a FTA? To think that the kid has a problem because he has an underage drinking ticket is ridiculous.

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

 @Lost Ones Is this real life? RW, Jackson, Liggins Shooting guards? Martin is a stretch to be back next year

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @Mr_posey  Russell Westbrook, Reggie Jackson, Lamb, Liggins martin

ThunderWins
ThunderWins 5pts

 @Mr_posey   @Lost Ones http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7349771/ben-mclemore-kansas-jayhawks-arrested-failure-appear

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