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Evaluating the Thunder’s deadline moves

by Royce Young on February 21, 2013 at 5:59 pm 757 Comments

The Thunder sent a player to another team for literally nothing and brought in a player for a second-round draft pick. That’s the kind of trade deadline this was.

With the hype building and some fans giving wild ultimatums about the necessity of the Thunder making a big deal, Sam Presti and his front office went for the small play. Essentially a favor deal sending Eric Maynor to Portland for a trade exception, and a move to bring in Ronnie Brewer from New York for a 2014 pick.

Watching Maynor go is kind of sad, but that was expected, and necessary. He wanted a chance to prove himself worthy of a contract and wasn’t ever going to get it in OKC. So the story of this deadline for the Thunder is the acquisition of Brewer and what that means. 

Here’s his vitals: A 27-year-old 6-foot-7, 230-pound small forward that is averaging 3.6 points and 2.2 rebounds in 46 appearances for the Knicks. He’s a defense first player, a guy that is as tough and gritty as they come. He’s not an offensive weapon — his jumpshot might be stranger than Kevin Martin’s — but he’s athletic and is an excellent cutter and terrific transition player. Which with the Thunder, he should have ample opportunities in both aspects.

And here’s the kicker: He’s got a lot of history defending LeBron James. Playing two seasons with the Bulls, Brewer got very used to checking LeBron and while no one in the world could ever be considered a LeBron Stopper, Brewer at least seems to be a better option than Kevin Durant (who can’t stay out of foul trouble) or Thabo (who doesn’t seem to have the bulk).

A lot of people have been griping the Thunder didn’t do anything to improve their title chances because they didn’t do anything to beat the Heat. I would argue that’s exactly what the acquisition of Brewer is. Why else would OKC need another perimeter defender?

Keep in mind, the Thunder have one of the top two offenses in basketball and while the bench has remained a concern, I would suspect the postseason plan is going to be 44 minutes and more for the Thunder’s top two guys. OKC is all-in with Westbrook and Durant, not just in that it’s their team, but it’s THEIR TEAM. Their offense, their show. It goes as they go.

How much will Brewer play? Probably not a lot. He’s certainly knocked DeAndre Liggins down a peg on the depth chart and in a lot of ways he’s Thabo Lite, but there’s really nothing wrong with having an extra defender like that. I would expect more than a handful of minutes a night, depending on matchups. But I do think he’ll play. Scott Brooks loves tough, gritty, physical defenders and that’s basically what Brewer makes his living on. He was a favorite of Tom Thibodeau in Chicago, which I think should tell you something.

(Sidebar: I would expect the Thunder to use their last roster spot to sign someone for the stretch run considering they now have only two point guards on the roster. It’ll be a wait-and-see thing to see if anyone gets bought out over the next few days, a la Derek Fisher last season. Or they could just sign Delonte West. Kidding. I hope and think. Or Allen Iverson. Or Gilbert Arenas. Or heck, Derek Fisher again. Also kidding with those. I think.)

Now, I do want to make this part clear: I think the Thunder should’ve done more. I certainly didn’t like the idea of anything drastic, but a second tier move bringing in a dynamic scorer would’ve been preferred. Something that could relieve a little of the second unit pressure on Kevin Martin and given the Thunder a new spark.

At the same time though, you have to grasp the Thunder’s situation. By dealing Harden, they’re going to have more financial flexibility, plus a heap of young assets and picks. Yeah, they could’ve used them now, but judging the landscape of this deadline, not many teams were dealing.

Plus, you don’t acquire things like that Toronto pick and Jeremy Lamb and give them away for some three-month playoff rental. That is, and never has been, the Thunder philosophy. It’s always about the long view and by OKC’s deadline actions here, it’s clear the Thunder value Lamb, Perry Jones and the picks. At least enough to hold on to them for now.

Presti and Brooks obviously like this team a lot as is. They’re in this game to win it all and wouldn’t have jeopardized that at the deadline by allowing potential game-changing moves to slip through their fingers.

So the Thunder made a very small move that certainly appears to have improved them. By a lot? Probably not. But they’re better today than they were yesterday. At least when it comes to beating the Heat. Maybe by only a very slim margin, but consider the way the last six games against Miami have gone, maybe that’s all it will take.

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T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts

Darnell says Brewer is Thabo 2.0 

DXL
DXL 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

From Espn's Kevin Pelton:

 

"Lastly, Printezis is more valuable than many of the players whose rights are exchanged this time of year. He's a key player for defending Euroleague champion Olympiacos whose translated statistics suggest he could make the leap to the NBA."

 

Interesting. Printezis was drafted by the Spurs organization, so Presti probably has some insight into who he is. The Knicks reportedly offered Printezis on contract in 2012, which he turned down. So he seems to have NBA-level talent, it's just that right now he's going to make more money playing in Europe.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk08nKPd3fc

 

Big guy, around 6'9", mobile, tough, good shooter. Made a Euroleague championship-winning shot. There's a lot to like.

 

 

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @DXL Pelton's player comparison tools are not reliable at all. His team projections based on them for the near worst in a contest at apbrmetrics and they have been terrible almost every year.

Crow
Crow 5pts

 @DXL Printezis plays minutes but has very ordinary / weak  efficiency. He might come over but it is very unlikely he would be anything but terrible in the NBA from an efficiency standpoint given hiseuropean efficiency.

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

Lets go http://dailythunder.com/2013/02/friday-bolts-2-22-13/

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

All this hype around Brewer reminds me of all the hype DT had for PJ3 which we all know how that turned out.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @bmuelle22 give PJ3 a couple years

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@bmuelle22 no kidding!

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @bmuelle22   Not yet we don't.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @TaoMaas half of DT thought he was going to make an immediate impact on our team. personally imo he won't even be on our team within the next few years.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @bmuelle22   I think he'll serve his purpose...giving us another guy to throw at Lebron.  Nobody really stops Lebron, just as nobody really shuts down KD.  Folks were wanting us to trade for Shawn Marion.  I think Brewer will be the bargain-basement version and will provide more help than what we paid for him.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @bmuelle22 Except PJ3 is a rookie unknown, and Brewer is a proven elite defender.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @Keith00 DT is going to be disappointed when he will have no effect on LeBron, which is really the only reason we got him.

AlexR44
AlexR44 5pts

 @Keith00  @TaoMaas  @bmuelle22

 I think Brewer wasn't necessarily brought in as a "Lebron-stopper", but more as a extra perimeter defender. When we play teams like San Antonio, Clippers, and Miami, one of the ways they exploit is on the perimeter with 3 point shooters. Having a big guard out there that can defend well goes a long way to helping defend those perimeter-oriented teams.

 

Will he play many minutes? No. But when he does play, he'll have an impact on the defensive end of the floor.

lmp5336
lmp5336 5pts

 @bmuelle22  @TaoMaas  @Keith00 I hope he doesn't play much more than that. There's no need for him to. But 10 minutes of lockdown perimeter D is nothing to sneeze at. In the end, the team (on paper) improved yesterday.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TaoMaas  @bmuelle22 Agreed. I've said it before, but our struggles with Miami are more about rotation than actual personnel. We are good enough to win when we match their small lineup. KD is a good Lebron defender, and really, no one is going to shut him down. Brewer gives us another option off the bench. He improves the defense when he is on the floor. There is no magical answer because there is no magical problem. We are already an elite team capable of winning the championship.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @TaoMaas  @Keith00 I especially love how some ppl think picking him up is our "magical" answer for winning a championship. I highly doubt he plays more then 10-15 min a game.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @TaoMaas  @Keith00 i'm not saying the trade wasn't worth it. honestly we gave up nothing. I'm just saying that DT's hype of this player is hilarious to read. 

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @bmuelle22  @Keith00   Baloney!  We got him for a song and even if he has no effect on Lebron, we're not out much.  If we had traded Thabo and the Toronto pick for him, THEN we'd be disapointed.

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@bmuelle22 jones III is real bro

EddieJones
EddieJones 5pts

I thought the stat-heads and non-stat-heads alike would both might like this. The non-stat heads can at least enjoy the colors. :)

 

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1671897/infographic-the-nbas-best-players-visualized-as-statistical-snowflakes#6

 

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

What a complete beat down last night at Staples. On the road, the Spurs just completely dismantled the Clippers. Neither Chris Paul or Eric Bledsoe did much of anything. The Heat and San Antonio clearly appear as the cream of the crop as the goal achieving portion of the season is almost upon us. Both teams cresting their games at just the right time. We have to be honest about our Thunder. Our team has not improved from Day 1 of this season. Reggie Jackson has improved, but I can't really say any other player on the roster has markedly moved his game forward to help the overall team cause other than Reggie. Some will say KD has....that is arguable though because he still doesn't play defense consistently hard and his turnovers are an issue. We also have to be honest in saying the Thunder's early season success came because the schedule was extremely easy. The schedule is not easy in these remaining 28 games. What Presti did in acquiring Brewer for basically the 54th or so player taken in the 2014 draft is a smart move. The trade exemption commodity for getting something of value for Maynor before his contract expired was a nice touch. But did OKC really address the issue of making itself good enough to beat San Antonio, let alone Miami? I would say no. OKC now has 28 games left to start improving as a basketball team. I would hope the process begins tonight--and I hope it is signaled by Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook taking care of the basketball---and playing hard on the defensive end.

KCScuba
KCScuba 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @El Prez 28 games left in the regular season is not the time to peak. Saying Durant hasn't improved this year is ridiculous.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Improving and peaking are two different things. True---you don't want to leave your best basketball in your rear view mirror too early, but you want to improve as a team. Specifically--with this team...show you can pass the ball, play team defense... and avoid the mental meltdowns in the last six minutes against good basketball teams. As far as KD, I would agree his rebounding his toughness have been better. But I would offset that by saying his carelessness with the ball and his inconsistent defense would negate the first two areas of his overall game...he's always going to score. Another words---if you get three more rebounds a game, but turn the ball three more times a game...the possessions you have as a team are virtually identical...a wash.

KCScuba
KCScuba 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @El Prez The Spurs win 20 in a row going into the WCF and then lose. The Heat sleepwalk to the finals and then play their best ball. We have the third best record in the league right now. Chill.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

We had point guard by committee last year against the Spurs....Russell, James and Derek Fisher. There will be no point guard by committee this time around. So---I think the dynamics are a bit different in that regard. There is no way on earth an objective person can say the Thunder are as equally equipped to handle the Spurs as they were last season. I'm not even thinking about Miami at this juncture.

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@KCScuba @El Prez like i said, thesrguys are a little bored

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@El Prez all tru words, but something tels me this team is just biting at the chop and is waiting for the real season, they might just be bored.

T-Fred
T-Fred 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

TONIGHT IS MASCOT MANIA NIGHT 

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@tydude i hope russ doesn't block his own mascot ;)

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Cold-Blooded    When I saw the Nuggets' mascot at the All Star game, I was thinking, "Please, God...let Russ block a shot by him tonight!"  LOL

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@TaoMaas you never know, plus russ do whT russ wants

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Good Morning Guys and Gals, is it game day? :)

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Is Tony Parker the most underrated player in the NBA? 

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @kennygee90   Definitely....definitely.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @kennygee90 he is up there, probably is long term, but short term there are  a lot of players who have fallen out of the conversation but still are really good.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @f5alcon true

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @kennygee90 Maybe last year but I think he gets enough credit now. 

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Fezzy yeah he's starting to now...hopefully people will recognize this dude this year cause he might win MVP with the way him and his team are playing

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@kennygee90 @Fezzy if durant is falling off, i really don't know what to say about LA. . .could you help me with that?

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Cold-Blooded  @kennygee90  @Fezzy cause he seems to be falling off...i was hoping earlier but i dont see anyway he gets it unless the spurs or heat implode now

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@kennygee90 @Fezzy parker? Why not say durant? Man get outa here

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Fezzy hopefully not..i want parker to win it now... im tired of lebron

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @kennygee90 LeBron's  got MVP

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@kennygee90 ;)

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@kennygee90 i'd say durant

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Cold-Blooded  @kennygee90 durant isn't nowhere near underrated..

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@kennygee90 i gues you didn't see my winki fac ;)

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

 @Cold-Blooded  @kennygee90 people say he's the 2nd best player in the league..thats not underrated

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@kennygee90 how do you know

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