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Friday Bolts – 2.8.13

by Royce Young on February 8, 2013 at 9:55 am 183 Comments

BoltsLogoNew11Darnell Mayberry with a trade thought: “O’Neal for Maynor works straight up, and the beauty of that swap is that it actually would save the Thunder nearly $1.5 million by shedding Maynor’s $2.33 million from the books. Another idea is for the Thunder to try to get P.J. Tucker in that package as well. Tucker is a bulldog defender, and, if nothing else, he’s another body the Thunder could throw at LeBron James in a potential Finals rematch. And because Tucker is making the league minimum, the Thunder still would be saving about $700,000 even in that two-for-one swap.”

Kevin Pelton of ESPN Insider simulating the West playoff seeding: “With the Los Angeles Clippers slumping, it has become a familiar two-team race for home-court advantage throughout the West playoffs, with San Antonio once again claiming the role of favorite. Oklahoma City actually has the slightly better point differential thus far (plus-8.8 points per game versus plus-8.5), but when we account for schedule, the Spurs move just ahead of the Thunder. Naturally, that means San Antonio has the easier slate the rest of the way. Add in the Spurs’ current 1.5-game lead in the standings and they land the No. 1 seed in 63 percent of simulations.”

Charles Barkley: “To me, the key to that team is going to be (Serge) Ibaka,” Barkley said. “(Russell) Westbrook and Ibaka are the keys. Westbrook has to get better at making people around him better. He has not done that. He’s already an All-Star. Now comes the point where he (needs to be) like, ‘Oh, I’ve got to make the guys around me better.’ “But Ibaka to me is the guy. The only way to beat the Miami Heat is down low. And Ibaka shoots a lot of jumpers. He’s got to post up and punish Chris Bosh down low.”

You heard Russ is coaching in the All-Star celebrity game? Guess who’s playing? USAIN BOLT. Yeah, for real. But then there’s this. Oh.

Justin Kubatko for the New York Times: “Win shares is a statistic that estimates the number of wins contributed by a player to his team due to his offense and defense. Durant currently leads the league with 12.0 win shares, 1.2 more than the runner-up, LeBron James, and just 0.2 off his total from last season. Durant’s rate of .301 win shares per 48 minutes also leads the N.B.A. and puts him on pace to become the fifth player in league history — joining Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, LeBron James and Michael Jordan — to average at least .300 win shares per 48 minutes in a season. Three consecutive All-N.B.A. first-team selections have cemented Durant’s place as a superstar, but his performance so far this season ranks with the all-time greats. And given that Durant is just 24 years old, the best may be yet to come.”

Mark Jackson defended Russell Westbrook.

Ian Levy for HP on shot selection: “Three of the best teams in the league this season have been the Heat, Thunder and Clippers. From their placements on this graph they would appear to be entirely unremarkable offensively and defensively. However, we know that to be the exact opposite. Each of those teams is so wealthy with individual talent that they can overcome a lack of extreme efficiency in their systems. Degree of difficulty is nothing to Chris Paul, Kevin Durant and LeBron James. On the other end of the spectrum you find the Spurs, Nets, and again, the Rockets; teams with a decided deficit of individual talent as compared to those other teams. They compensate with an enlightened intent and efficient design. Knowledge and scheme, don’t negate athleticism and natural talent, but they can help level the playing field.”

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Sup' Bruh'
Sup' Bruh' 5pts

Ha!! Raptors you suckers!!

Rudy might have hit the game winning shot in overtime against a team with a 14 game home winning streak........But.........He wasn't efficient!!!! HAHAHAAHAH!!!!

booles
booles 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://dailythunder.com/2013/02/new-stats-show-off-durant-and-westbrooks-offensive-brilliance/

KidCanada13
KidCanada13 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

would you guys like Javale McGee on this team ? 

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @KidCanada13 Not at 11 million a year.

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Patrick OKC
Patrick OKC 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CP2  @KidCanada13I had to like your comment because it got Cliff Paul to post.

 

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

does anyone know if we own our 2nd round pick next year or not?

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

How Good will Andrew Wiggins be?

KidCanada13
KidCanada13 5pts

 @Lost Ones real good, he is from Canada. 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts

 @KidCanada13 Obviously

Patrick OKC
Patrick OKC 5pts

 @KidCanada13  @Lost Ones

 Ain't nobody got time for that.

KidCanada13
KidCanada13 5pts

 @Patrick OKC  @Lost Ones eh** 

Patrick OKC
Patrick OKC 5pts

 @Lost Ones  @KidCanada13*aye

 

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Want to improve our big-man rotation at the deadline? Simple. Trade for a SF good enough to demand minutes, and we find ourselves with more KD at the 4 and 0 mins for Thabeet. Both good things come playoff time.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @DSYIII I don't think the team wants to move KD to the 4 more than he is now.

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @DSYIII What SF could we get though?

Westbrookinit3
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Dorrell Wright

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @Westbrookinit3 I like moultrie, but if he's not getting minutes for the sixers without bynum he wouldn't have a dream of getting minutes this season. 

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @Westbrookinit3 They were wanting Maynor earlier in the season. I personally would have really liked to have gotten Moultrie (which is apparently what they were offering).

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts

 @Westbrookinit3 for maynor and PJIII

Mr_posey
Mr_posey 5pts

My question is if we do get an impactful big, who obviously wouldn't be a superstar name, but someone who can come in and play. What that would do for the rotation, as far as min for guys like Perk and Collision.

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @Mr_posey I think you just shave a little off of both of their playing time, and giving him Thabeet's minutes (11.5) that is plenty to make an impact.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @Mr_posey I would hope we could move Perkins in the deal, and thus open the starting C spot for the new (better) player. If we pick up another big without moving Perkins, it wouldn't change the rotation much at all, as the new big would likely just take Thabeet's minutes.

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts

With all the talk about trading Maynor, do you think there's a possibility that this is working out perfectly in Presti's mind? Maynor wants to stay here, and he has played himself into a much smaller contract situation. Maybe Presti and the team believes that he'll be 100% next year, and we know how good Maynor is when he is healthy.

 

I'm not saying that I believe this is the case, I'm just saying that it could be a possibility. Why trade him for peanuts when we can sign him for peanuts and he might turn back into the stud backup PG we know he can be? It's a risk, but it's just a thought...

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @TempBoy Brandon I wouldn't re-sign him for peanuts because he's not any good. I'd rather draft a rookie late and not waste the roster spot. Even before injury Maynor was wildly overrated here. He had a good Ast/Turn, but the only thing he really did well was not turn the ball over. He was never an adept scorer, shooter, defender, or even passer.

thunder_mike
thunder_mike 5pts

Wow, Not a good scorer, shooter, or passer? Now you're just downplaying his abilities. He was better pre-injury at all of those things than Reggie is now. He was draining his open shots and had a pretty floater. And his passing was his main strength. The difference is Reggie has the size to play defense.

 

That being said, he's not staying. Presti is gonna either move him as a trading chip or let him walk this summer.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @thunder_mike That wasn't a comparative analysis, that was overall. Yes, he shoots and passes better than Reggie, but Reggie is bad at doing those things too. Maynor being better than Reggie at a couple things doesn't make him a good player.

 

Maynor was not particularly productive pre-injury, and has been worse post-injury. I wouldn't want to use up a roster spot on a player that isn't good, even if Reggie isn't any better.

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts

 @TempBoy Brandon Soooooo what happens to reggie?

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

What is your guys' list of "gettable" bigs for OKC? Not taking into real consideration whether they would be a perfect fit or anything, just who out there is gettable and would (in a vacuum) help the team. I'm thinking: Hickson, Blatche, Mozgov, O'Neal... am I missing any? Mozgov is my personal favorite that I think we could get at a reasonable price.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey Check my name. Thanks.

Patrick OKC
Patrick OKC 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FREE DEMARCUS COUSINS  @DubyaexwhizeyHe said gettable.  I don't think the Konics would trade him.

 

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

KD is now no 250 in all time scoring.  He should be near 200 by the end of teh season

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

@Lambchop thought u was gonna say by the time his career finish

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Cold-Blooded  @Lambchop Hell be top ten, provided he doesnt miss significant time.  Most like top 3

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @[censored]  @Lambchop   @Cold-Blooded  @Lambchop At his current rate he would have to maintain his current production until he is 36.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @Lambchop   @Cold-Blooded  @Lambchop Top 3?  Depends on where Kobe ends up...

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups  @Cold-Blooded  @Lambchop A spot up three pointer when hes 40

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Cold-Blooded  @Lambchop

His game should translate into his 30's.

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@Lambchop @Lambchop his style of play doesn't demand alot on his body and the way he can score? You never know...probably#1. But definitely top three

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Cold-Blooded  @Lambchop He coudl be in teh top 5 before hes 30.  Thats stupid

 

Lambchop
Lambchop 5pts

I was gonna post that Kabatko article, thinking no one hears reads teh NYTimes

dollarbillrussell
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 @Lambchop  I'm having trouble just reading your post

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

I don't like this growing up thing. I never have time to get on DT anymore. -_- 

ThunderChick2010
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 @ElMexiThunder 

Careful, Berry Tramel will call you Peter Pan!

ElMexiThunder
ElMexiThunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010

 

Email me later. esrodriguez7@gmail.com. I want to talk to you about a project Bmuelle and i have planned. I'm sure he's talked to you about it already!  

ElMexiThunder
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 @ThunderChick2010

 

I would never be caught wearing green tights!!

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

The narrative that Harden would take over at the end of games when Westbrook didn't 'have it' is completely false.  Harden made only 1 FG in the last 5 minutes of games with 5 points last season or 1.73% of the Thunder's points in the entire season.  In the playoffs, he was much more involved scoring 13% but not as a playmaker, as an iso scorer.  The Thunder's offense in the last 5 minutes of games had 39.2% of baskets assisted during the regular season but only 33.3% during the close games in the fourth quarter.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @FF_pickups Things were really changing in the playoffs.  Harden was a lot more involved.  I hope they get to that point with Martin.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @[censored]  @FF_pickups  A lot of things changed in the playoffs, Defense improved, Turnovers improved, playmaking improved etc. 

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @Lost Ones  Surprisingly, playmaking in the final five minutes of close games decreased but overall, it was increased.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @[censored] I know that they changed in the playoffs, that's not my point.  My point is that the 'narrative' that Harden was running things at the end of games during the regular season is wrong.  There was a welcome adoption of Harden into the final five minute offense during the playoffs but that's not the narrative.  The narrative is that Harden had been carrying RW during his 'frequent emotional breakdowns' all year long.  That's absolutely not the case. 

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @FF_pickups That definitely isn't true.  I think some people are just remembering the playoffs and not the season.  Harden's usage in those 'clutch' regular season minutes was under 7%.  In was something like 17%.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @[censored] "So what you're saying is that Harden wasn't involved a lot late in games during the regular season?"

 

No, I am commenting on the national narrative.  Every national game or talking head says that

 

"the difference between the Thunder this year and last year is that we would run our offense with Harden at the point at the end of games and now we have to let the 'emotions of Westbrook' rule the day." 

 

We didn't run our offense through Harden at the end of games, that's just not true.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

So what you're saying is that Harden wasn't involved a lot late in games during the regular season?  Almost goes without saying, LOL.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @FF_pickups *waits for someone to blame westbrook or denounce your statistics*

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