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Practice Report: Derek Fisher will ‘definitely’ play

by Royce Young on February 26, 2013 at 2:36 pm 1,122 Comments
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I saw the addition of Derek Fisher as a great thing, as a perfect move to bring in a great locker room voice and added roster insurance. A very sensible, smart thing to do with an open roster slot available.

But that was assuming he wasn’t going to be jumping right back into the rotation because surely not, right?

“Definitely, he will play,” so says Scott Brooks.

Oh.

More Brooks: “Does he take spots on the floor, minutes from other guys? To have a good team you have to have sacrifices from everybody.”

Oh.

“Minutes are going to be had, minutes are probably going to be taken away from many guys. Not just because of Derek Fisher, but as the season goes on, sometimes the rotations become smaller.”

Oh. No.

Last season’s circumstances were much different when Fisher joined the team. Eric Maynor was down and out with an ACL injury and the Thunder were facing a postseason having to rely on a rookie point guard as Russell Westbrook’s backup. It was clear Reggie Jackson wasn’t ready, that he needed some more time to learn and grow.

This season, it’s changed. Jackson has developed considerably, becoming a quality second unit player and someone that’s earned his minutes. He’s versatile, athletic and seems to be building confidence and understanding his role better and better. Early on, it appeared he was a little hesitant to let loose and play while Maynor was still looking over his shoulder. After it became clear the job was his, Jackson blossomed some as a playmaker. Nothing spectacular, but certainly encouraging.

Is Fisher going to usurp Jackson again? We’ll learn more over the next week or so, but the fact any minutes are going Fisher’s way and not directed to the likes of Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Nick Collison, Thabo or whoever, is a bad thing. Fisher can still hit a corner 3 and was fairly productive for OKC last season, but his defense is awful and even six minutes on the floor for him means six minutes less for someone else. I don’t get that. Seems to me it flies in the face of the Thunder developmental philosophy too. Instead of giving spot minutes to a young player to get him adapted and comfortable, a 38-year-old on a three-month rental is going to get that time.

Again, I think bringing Fisher back is a very sensible, smart move. It makes a ton of sense. And even playing him in spots isn’t the worst thing ever, much in the same way Royal Ivey sometimes saw time, or even Daequan Cook. But we all know what happened last season with Fisher’s playing time growing to the point where he was seeing upwards of 30 minutes in the NBA Finals. And if he’s set to “definitely” play, it’s natural to feel that he’s going to play a lot. Likely at the expense of Jackson.

“My tank is much more full showing up this year than it was last year,” Fisher said. “So I plan on being more impactful and more effective than I was for the team last year.”

So what about this destroying Jackson’s confidence?

“That’s hypothetical,” Brooks said.

It would also be likely.

Here’s what Fisher said of his role: “I’ve come here without any sense of entitlement or expectation … Whatever role or whatever opportunities Scotty and the team sees for me in terms of being helpful, that’s what I’m willing to play.

“I think Reggie Jackson has played really solid basketball and deserves the opportunity to continue to play,” Fisher said. “So Scotty will make those decisions.”

As Brooks was pressed on it a bit more, he was very coy about his rotations and playing time. He danced around anything direct about how much Fisher would play or if he’d be in the rotation. That is a little different change in tune from last season when Fisher was signed and Brooks immediately declared that he would be Westbrook’s backup.

So we’ll just have to sort of wait and see what happens with the rotations and playing time. Will we get an idea Wednesday against the Hornets? Will both Ronnie Brewer and Fisher be active?

Said Brooks: “Ask me tomorrow.”

SCOTT BROOKS

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On why he chose No. 6: “For sure, kind of symbolizing and serving as motivation for myself that winning at the end of the day, is what this all about. It symbolizes for me in terms of No. 6, but it also symbolizes for me the reason why I’m here to be part of this team and that’s to get No. 1.”

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Cold-Blooded
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http://dailythunder.com/2013/02/wednesday-bolts-2-27-13/

Gyella
Gyella 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

WHEN WILL GIORGIOS GET HIS MINUTES!!!!

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Wow, just watched that Doug Colling post game presser.  That's one of the rare times that a coach will just say what's on his mind and not worry about coach-speak.  I like the quote about energy, effort and execution.

Cold-Blooded
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@elprez what do you think of this lol http://www.hoopsworld.com/lebron-james-says-hes-faster-than-manti-teo/

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Cold-Blooded  @elprez te'o ran a pretty slow 40

Gyella
Gyella 5pts

 @f5alcon  @Cold-Blooded his 40 was .7 seconds faster than Terrell Suggs' columbine 40 and Suggs is OK, eh?

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Gyella  We were taking about speed, lebron is probably faster than suggs too.

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts

 @Gyella  @f5alcon  @Cold-Blooded Suggs was at Columbine?

okcjim
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 @Cold-Blooded  @elprez

 Lane Johnson is faster than Teo.  I'm sure Lebron is faster.

Cold-Blooded
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@okcjim @elprez thats bull S, it depends on the distance they're going sir, lebron doesn't have endurance like eo

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @okcjim  @Cold-Blooded Lane Johnson is also a quarter second faster than Landry. Ouch

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Can we all agree that we need to draft Anthony Bennett with the Raptors' pick? And if the pick is too low we do what it takes to move up

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell Rather take a gamble on Noel

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @Fezzy  he is still projected as #1 on draft express, and 2 on espn

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

 @Fezzy  @dollarbillrussellNoel will be top 3.  Bennett could slide.

 

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts

 @Fezzy I'd rather move Serge to the 5 if we're gonna gamble on an offensively limited, skinny big, who specializes in blocking shots. And take a gamble on Bennett

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @Fezzy    You're right...we need rebounds more than we need offense.  Someone who can grab a lot of boards and play decent defense would go a long ways towards making Serge a workable starting center for us.

Fezzy
Fezzy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @dollarbillrussell There are already not enough touches to go around on offense. Rather go with someone who can fit in around the guys we have. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @dollarbillrussell I like him but 6ft 7 in shoes scares me. Faried is almost 6ft 8 and looks tiny out there. 

areayewhy
areayewhy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoy  @dollarbillrussell standing reach is a better predictor of if a person is 'big enough' to play a positioj than height 

long arm of the law
long arm of the law 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @areayewhy  @OBoy  @dollarbillrussell blake griffin's trex arms go against this thought process

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OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @MJOKC  @dollarbillrussell it's possible, i'll start paying attention more. It doesn't help that we have no idea how tall KD is now lol

NicKadau
NicKadau 5pts

 @OBoy  @MJOKC  @dollarbillrussell I like the idea of drafting a PG with the lottery pick, then with the late first round or early second round pick taking a big who cares about rebounding and nothing else, like a Dieng from Louisville kinda player. Thoughts?

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @MJOKC  @dollarbillrussell I can't find any official measurements. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MJOKC  @dollarbillrussell He's atleast 6'9. 

dollarbillrussell
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 @OBoy I just feel like the long wingspan and athleticism makes up for it. I could see him being a better Mlilsap 

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoy Bennett's 240. He's got an NBA body already

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell For some reason Millsap doesn't look that small to me on the court. Probably because he's built. If Bennet could be someone like Millsap that would be great. 

TempBoy Brandon
TempBoy Brandon 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell What pick is he projected to go with?

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts

 @TempBoy Brandon 5-8. Although I've read a couple articles that say he could potentially move up to the top pick. Obviously if he jumps that high he's out of our reach.

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @dollarbillrussell why bennett??

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts

 @CLthunderfan Because he's an athletic 4 whose offensive potential is through the roof, he can handle the ball, he can rebound, and of course, because Presti seems to value this above all else, he's got a huge wingspan. 

okcjim
okcjim 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dollarbillrussell  @CLthunderfanI like Bennett a lot.  I wish he would be dominating college basketball a little more than he is.  He's probably the only PF in the top 15 picks.  If we drafted him and wanted him to have a prominant role eventually Serge would move to the 5 and he would play the 4. 

 

courtsense
courtsense 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Having Brewer as the designated wing defender of the second unit allows Brooks to hide Martin's deficiencies.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @courtsense 

I prefer to hide Martin's deficiencies by not paying any attention to them.  :) 

courtsense
courtsense 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 Yeah, that's kinda how I approach my personal life as well...I don't pay attention to my deficiencies, and just keep ploughing forward. :) 

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @courtsense 

What deficiencies?  You certainly don't have any that I can see.  :)

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ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @MJOKC  @courtsense 

It's what I do.  :)

El Prez
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With all the talk about Marcus Smart in this area, Romero Osby has quietly gone about his business of having a very good year while being the hub to lead OU back to the NCAA Tournament for the first time since Blake Griffin's departure. 17 ppg, 10 rbpg and 4 assists per game. He can play either the 3 or the 4 at 6'8", 235. Already a graduate student, and very much a mature team leader, hard worker and an obvious culture fit for the Thunder.  Maybe not a bad choice for that Charlotte pick which will be the 31st player in the draft.

long arm of the law
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 @El Prez He could maybe pull off playing the four but I really just think I'd get heartburn watching him try to play the 3.  

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

 @see-mittens

  I mean...I'm only seeing him as a role player with limited minutes...not a starter. He certainly couldn't guard a Battier or a Vince Carter or that type of player. But he might be that nice odd piece to have available in certain situations. It really doesn't matter who OKC drafts because none of them will be seeing the floor next season as a rookie. I think all talk about OKC draft selections are just basically going to be about finding a nice little piece---not a game changer.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @El Prez What about our own 2nd rd pick, do we have that this year or was it traded away

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @f5alcon  @El Prez I dont believe we have it.  I believe we gave it to minnesota in the lazar trade.   

anonymous12345
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 @CLthunderfan  @f5alcon  @El Prez

 A 2nd rounder for Lazar.  Most lopsided trade ever?

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @El Prez He is just undersized.  Not sure how well he will do in the NBA.  

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

He wouldn't be undersized in a small ball configuration or playing the 3.

El Prez
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 @CLthunderfan I think the site I referenced his stats off was using 17, 10 as in Big 12 Conference games only.

 

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @El Prez also El prez, osby is only averaging 7.1 Rebounds a game not 10 

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @anonymous12345  @El Prez agreed also Amath Mbaye is more likely to get picked int eh 2nd round than osby. 

anonymous12345
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 @CLthunderfan  @El Prez

 Osby is likely to go undrafted, so picking him the high 2nd round wouldn't be a good choice considering he'll be available as an undrafted signee

CLthunderfan
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 @El Prez he cant play the 3 at all. not in todays NBA.  

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @CLthunderfan  @El Prez  they said that about Kenneth Faried.  

 

 

But then again Ken doesnt play defense to save his life

Cold-Blooded
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@PerkPose @CLthunderfan @El LMAO and some timing belts

Perk-Punt
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 @Cold-Blooded  @CLthunderfan  @PerkPose  @El PJ3 just needs a tuneup and some new spark plugs

Cold-Blooded
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@CLthunderfan @PerkPose @El Prez needs to give perry jones a few cylinders out of that motor

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @CLthunderfan  @El Prez  still undersized. Just making a point that the undersized  tag is a little outdated 

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @PerkPose  @El Prez also faried was a rebounding machine in college. his last year he average 14.5 rebounds a game. 

anonymous12345
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 @PerkPose  @CLthunderfan  @El Prez

 Osby doesn't have the athleticism that Faried does.

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @PerkPose  @El Prez this is true but faried has a big time motor.  

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