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Wednesday Bolts – 2.13.13

by Royce Young on February 13, 2013 at 9:47 am 193 Comments

BoltsLogoNew1A study from Kenpom on fouling when up three: “However, I think that says something about how difficult it is to determine the proper strategy. To me, the only conclusion one can make is that the criticism of coaches that choose to defend appears to be misplaced. A small percentage of the time you’ll get burned no matter what you choose to do. We will continue to see teams make game-tying threes near the end of games more often than they get fouled simply because more coaches choose this strategy. In the long run, it’s difficult to prove it’s a bad idea.”

Kelly Dwyer of BDL on halfcourt heaves: “When Durant says “it depends on how the game’s going,” he truly and technically is referring to his individual game on that night. To some this reeks of stat-padding, and needlessly obsessive stat-padding: NBA fans typically don’t freak out over shooting percentages on shots that players tend to take possibly once or twice a week; especially for someone like Durant who averages 19 shots per game on his career. In terms of sheer honesty, though? We love it. Though Kevin Durant is just about the only player we’ll let get away with it.”

Trey Kerby of TBJ: “Jokes aside, Scott Brooks is totally right and the Thunder should take those last second heaves. Even if they only make two a season, those two might happen to come in games where they end up losing by one. Who knows? That’s why you shoot it. And though Shane Battier is pushing for shooting percentage reform, even if these shots still negatively affect percentages, it’s still worth shooting because it does nothing but help your team. (Which, in turn, is probably why teams shouldn’t hold it against players who throw up these desperation heaves while negotiating contracts, which is exactly why a lot of players choose not to shoot them. It’s a vicious cycle.)”

PTI discussing the halfcourt heaves thing.

Brett Pollakof of PBT on it: “We think of lower-tier players being more likely to pull this trick, especially ones who may be in a contract year where their statistics at the end of the season will, at least in part, directly translate into the amount of future dollars that will go into in their pocket. Durant’s response was honest and refreshing, but if the game was on the line there’s no doubt at all that he’d hoist it the length of the court if it would give his team a chance to tie or win in the final seconds.”

KD tweets: “I love playing in Utah, just upset at how the fans treated us behind our bench….we don’t deserve that..but I’m movin on.”

DeMarre Carroll called KD’s flagrant “dirty.”

Twenty years from now, Will Ferrell will be Bill Murray. Book it.

Darnell Mayberry: “Westbrook simply walked off. The temperamental team captain got fed up with a reporter’s question and suddenly turned his back and ended the interview before walking away. The exchange was as follows. “Russell, did you guys lose this game, or did the Jazz win this one?” Westbrook: “Whaaaaat? Bro, what are you talking about, man? I’m out man. Y’all n***** trippin’.” Westbrook’s sound bite was good for a quick laugh and easily makes his top three all-time interview quotes. But what was sad about the exchange is that everyone on the team, players and staffers included, simply supported him. They came to his defense even after he lost his patience, snapped on a reporter, prematurely ended an interview and used offensive language. It’s one of the reasons Westbrook will always be Westbrook. Nobody seems to hold him accountable, on the court or in front of the cameras. A pretty generic question, one that players get asked all the time in every sport, caused him to erupt. But by now, that behavior is just what you expect out of Westbrook.”

Here’s video of Westbrook’s blow-up.

Interesting tweet from @NBAGuru: “‘Bad Shooting Night’ – player with 15+ FGA and <40% FGM. Among All-Stars: Westbrook 17; Harden 16; Kobe 14; ‘Melo 10; Durant 6…LeBron 1.”

A cool breakdown of ‘Bad Shooting Nights’ from Bucksketball.

From Elias: “The last five games played by the Thunder have all been decided by a margin of at least 15 points. They won by 21, 21, 31 and 28 before losing to Utah by 15 points on Tuesday night. That matches the longest such streak within one season in the history of the Thunder franchise. The SuperSonics had two such streaks: one early in the 1982-83 season and one in November 2004.”

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OBoy
OBoy 5pts

http://dailythunder.com/2013/02/3-on-3-thunder-versus-heat/

As Promised
As Promised 5pts

I think it's getting beyond Westbrook being Westbrook.  They are going to have to control him.  I am not liking how his "I don't care" attitude is seeping off the court.  It should always be on the court.  Soon it's gonna come to a time where they can't say anything to him and he will become a hassle to work with.

ThunderTheFUp
ThunderTheFUp 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@thelaughingwiseman If his teammates back him and no issues in the lockeroom I think most fans could care less how he acts towards the media. Its not like he's a jerk as soon as you step in the room. Simple: if you ask a dumb question to him he will respond accordingly. His teammates have had nothing but praise for him along with coaches. Unless the media controls a part of the Thunder it has no effect on anything substantial.

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

 @thelaughingwiseman Disagree... I wish more players would do what Russ does, because reporters asked some stupid questions and they, like the rest of the world should have some accountability. The old saying "You ask a stupid question, you get a stupid answer." rings true in this case. If more players in any sport turned off an interview because of a stupid question then the rest of the media people will soon reprimand the guys asking the stupid questions becuase they miss their opportunity to ask a question.

 

More players need this in their canned responses: "No more questions for you bruh!"

[coke head]
[coke head] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Westbrook turning into a drama queen lately.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @[censored] lately? i don't think it is new

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Glad to see Tricia is making her way to OKC!  Can't wait!

GoodKid
GoodKid 5pts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukwyJs7jt9M&feature=player_embedded

 

PJIII.

d21
d21 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Trade? @TonyMejiaNBA: Hearing there may be major Magic news coming up today. Working on details.

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

Someone might be in trouble http://www.hoopsworld.com/u-s-attorneys-office-investigating-nbpa/

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @Cold-Blooded

 Hunter is done. Get em out /

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts

Mavericks interested in brandon jennings....

smallhandedthunder
smallhandedthunder 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Cold-Blooded Are they interested in Derek Fisher?  Oh wait......

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Cold-Blooded

 they are interested in eveyone

Cold-Blooded
Cold-Blooded 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@PerkPunt lol, the guy on your avatar too......

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @Fezzy  @Cold-Blooded

 ha!

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Cold-Blooded  @PerkPunt Orton?

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

Nerlens Noel is out for 6-8 months with a torn ACL. How does that effect his draft prospect?

OneCasualFan
OneCasualFan 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey Shouldn't be too bad if he decide to enter the draft since it seems like this is one of the weakest in recent years.  Kyrie Irving didn't play too many college games in Duke in his lone year because of his injury neither.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey hopefully falls to us.

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @f5alcon OKC would be the only team in that area that would be able to take the risk IMO.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey yeah, I would see how the draft goes, if there are still other decent players on the board I would probably skip, but if we end up in the 11th or 12th spot he might be the best available and we can give him a whole year off. No matter who we get if they dont end up better than harden people are gonna complain and he is probably the best chance of outperforming his draft position.

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts

 @Dubyaexwhizey He won't be the 1st overall pick now that's for sure.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey he should stay at school another year. 

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Dubyaexwhizey

 this will be a last min decision. Oden will be in the back of everyone's mind when thinking abouty Noel.  School would be best but if he really needs the money then he comes out and gets drafted late first round by a contending team and doesn play much anyways. 

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OBoy Jones III  @Dubyaexwhizey I wouldn't, what if he gets injured again? his career is over before it started pretty much if he were too.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @Fezzy  @bmuelle22 Wall had a "stress injury" in his kneecap not a torn ACL. Shumpert, Rubio, Rose, Rondo all tore ACLs. It will be interesting to see how they recover. 

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Fezzy  @bmuelle22 Thought of a big guy injury, while not ACL could have been just as bad: Blake Griffin. He's all athleticism. Of course, a broken kneecap isn't quite the same.

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Fezzy  @bmuelle22 Very true. All the latest ACL tears have been PGs. John Wall is doing decent... will be interesting to see how Rose fairs. Rubio was on a decline before he got injured, so it's hard to tell with him. And I realize that big guys are quite a bit different than guards, but Wall relies mostly on athleticism and is doing just fine. I guess it all depends on who is available at that spot. If Len or Gobert is there, I would rather take them than take a flier on Noel.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @JustOneCasualFan  @Dubyaexwhizey  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 I'd put him behind Randle at least too. 

OneCasualFan
OneCasualFan 5pts

 @Fezzy  @Dubyaexwhizey  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 Not gonna happened if these two guys enter that draft. Andrew Wiggins & Jabari Parker.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @Fezzy  @bmuelle22 There's a real possibility that he never recovers or that when he does all his athleticism is gone. 

 

What would Serge's game look like if (god forbid) he tore an ACL? 

 

I tried to find a list of some players that have successfully recovered from ACL tears, here are the big men in the league currently:

 

Al Jefferson

Jason Smith

David West

Al Harrington

Kendrick Perkins

 

All of those guys game's are based on skill and not athleticism. Noel is the opposite. 

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @Fezzy  @bmuelle22 Underrating in what way? That he'll take a long time to recover so we shouldn't draft him, or that he shouldn't come out because it's such a serious injury?

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 I just think that staying in school would hinder him more because Kentucky is going to be DEEP next year and he might not get the playing time needed to get re acclimated. 

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @Fezzy  @bmuelle22 I think you're underrating how serious an ACL tear is. 

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @Fezzy  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 That's what I'm thinking too. We would be the only team that early that could take that kind of risk... depends on if he stays in school or not though.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @OBoy Jones III  @Dubyaexwhizey  @bmuelle22 I couldn't imagine Presti wouldn't take him. Assuming we are at the tail end of the lottery, I'd think the gamble would outweigh any players that we would pick up instead.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Fezzy  @Dubyaexwhizey  @bmuelle22 if he stayed and school he could atleast work out for teams and prove that he's recovered. 

 

Wasn't he viewed as a project before the injury? So now he's another year back from being a productive player? 

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 I still don't think he goes past lottery.

Perk-Nightmares
Perk-Nightmares 5pts

 @Fezzy  @Dubyaexwhizey  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22

 good point . injury history is still a red flag. He wont go top five ever now. Might as well come out and get first class treatment and hope to regain form

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @Fezzy  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 Maybe not first, but a lot better than in the 20s.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Dubyaexwhizey  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 Even if he stays in school, there is no way in hell he'd go first next year.

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @Fezzy  @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22 Big difference between a first round pick and 1st overall. About 17 mil dollars or so.

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22  @Dubyaexwhizey Hell, I'd take him with Toronto's pick.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @Fezzy  @bmuelle22  @Dubyaexwhizey i'll be shocked if he goes top 20

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III  @bmuelle22  @Dubyaexwhizey I can think of a dozen teams that would take a flier on him easy with their first round pick.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @bmuelle22  @Dubyaexwhizey he won't be able to work out by the time of the draft and won't be 100% for another year. I could see him dropping to the 2nd round which would be a non guaranteed contract. 

Dubyaexwhizey
Dubyaexwhizey 5pts

 @bmuelle22  @OBoy Jones III With an ACL he'll be out until the beginning of the NBA season next year. That could drop him way down, which means he loses a lot of money. Tough decision.

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

This loss really set the floodgates open for all the belly aching and blame to go around.

OKC035
OKC035 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 9 Like

http://www.thewhistle.com/pics32/0/QZ/QZNGVDSCMXOUMZZ.20130212195806.png?SPSID=632928&SPID=93308&DB_OEM_ID=27500

 

Dwight Howard Email

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts

 @OKC035 i love the tabs at the top. "how to deal with a bully" and "D'antoni impressions" hahahaha

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts

 @OKC035 the metta world peace one and nash ones are funny

smallhandedthunder
smallhandedthunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @f5alcon  @OKC035 #MambaOut

Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell
Fezzy/FreeAdamsKarasevSnell 5pts

 @OKC035 Somebody has too much time on their hands. Still pretty funny.

OKC035
OKC035 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Fezzy The Lebron one is great too 

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0724/grant_lebroninbox2_1152.jpg

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

 @OKC035 YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH

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