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TGR 93: Slam dunks and junk shots

by Thunderground Radio on March 5, 2013 at 11:36 am 252 Comments

DTTGRTwo blow outs, a couple nail biters and one giant shot to the mommy-daddy button made this week an eventful one for the Thunder.

Joel and Brad give you their take including:

  • Ibaka’s defensive improvement?
  • The addition of Fisher
  • Russell Westbrook’s recent domination
  • What does it take to consider your own guy a dirty player?

…and much more!

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AlexR44
AlexR44 5pts

Do not fear DT'ers. Here's an appetizer pre-game preview before the entree we call "Pre-game Primer". Enjoy

 

http://nowthatsthunderbasketball.com/2013/03/05/los-angeles-lakers-vs-oklahoma-city-thunder-game-60-of-82/

 

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

just got approved for my martial arts scholarship!!, im trying to go undefeated today, i need a dortmund W, and a thunder W, and my day is madeeeeeee. 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

Anyone expect Otto parker to fall to us

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

porter

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

http://dailythunder.com/2013/03/is-russell-westbrook-the-next-kobe/

 

Move it or ibaka will slap you where it hurts. 

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts

 @CLthunderfan Yes sir!

okcjim
okcjim 5pts

NBA draft.net updated today...

 

http://www.nbadraft.net/

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @okcjim I think I'd be pretty happy if that's how it plays out

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

todays 5 on 5 on espn is a total joke.  All about the lakers.  But what else should i expect. 

 

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130305/nba-state-los-angeles-lakers

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @CLthunderfan I actually like Strauss' responses. Unlike everyone else spouting narrative-based claims ("They won a few games so they are BACK!"), Strauss just points out the truth (minus his one random claim about the Spurs). LA has won the last few games based on coin-flip luck, despite actually having a negative margin during that span. They have a chance at the playoffs, but primarily because the bottom seed is really vulnerable this year (which would be different if Minny had stayed healthy). They have no chance at the championship, and there's just nothing we've seen that would say a year older Nash-Kobe-Pau would get them any closer in the future.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

 @CLthunderfan FACT, THE LAKERS ARE BACK.

KellOne
KellOne 5pts

 @OBoy  @CLthunderfan To .500

booles
booles 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxNWYpO3yAoUeTBaSngxMVN4MDQ/edit?usp=sharing&pli=1 

 

DT Predictions rankings

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @booles Man... I don't recall putting the Lakers 3rd ...must be a typo lol.... And I didn't expect Houston and GS to take the place of Minny, Dallas and Memphis.....

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @booles Thanks

CLthunderfan
CLthunderfan 5pts

 @booles  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry How in the world did vegas have the kings making the playoffs?? 

SoCal Thunder
SoCal Thunder 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @booles  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry I love how everyone picked the Lakers to make the playoffs....

SoCal Thunder
SoCal Thunder 5pts

Even better just realized that the average is the 1st or 2nd seed lol

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @booles  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  does this mean we all shouldve take the bet?  how do the rules work on this?

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @booles  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  well except you @booles 

booles
booles 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry minny at 7 and New Orleans at 8 sunk me haha

Air Bud
Air Bud 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 10 Like

Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixSI

No suspension coming for Serge Ibaka, I'm told. Fine only for the crotch shot on Blake Griffin.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Skyline  @ChrisMannixSI YES WE WINNING TONIGHT

sooner403
sooner403 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Skyline  @ChrisMannixSI Be funny if Kobe was scared now.

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @sooner403  I don't understand why Kobe needed to say what he said. Chris Childs laughs at his "toughness"

Sustainable Parameters
Sustainable Parameters 5pts

 @PKBOB  @sooner403I laugh at Chris Childs's toughness. Those weren't even punches. You slow it down and look at how they connected, dude palm pushed him in the sternum. But because Kobe is high profile and somebody people love to hate, everybody acts like Childs actually put in some type of work

 

Perk-Punt
Perk-Punt 5pts

 @Skyline  @ChrisMannixSI insert Charles Barkley "role model " quote 

SoCal Thunder
SoCal Thunder 5pts

I just had a great conversation with my friend (huge NBA fan) about the timberwolves. Last year I told him they were going to make the playoffs this year but unfortunately injuries happened. 

 

What seed would you guys think the twolves would have IFFFFFF they were fully healthy? I think they will be fighting for the 5-6 spot 

booles
booles 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @SoCal Thunder well I picked them to get the 7 seed this year in the DT predictions challenge, but that doesn't mean much because I'm in last place...

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @booles  @SoCal Thunder 

I forgot about this.... where are those rankings?

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @booles  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @SoCal Thunder Diligent TC is diligent.

booles
booles 5pts

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @SoCal Thunder TC updated them last night.. hang on let me find them

 

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @SoCal Thunder 

I'm like you, I think Minny is pretty good when healthy.

booles
booles 5pts

Why were the Lakers the one team to not send a representative to the Sloan Sports Conference? 

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @booles Because Buss and D'Antoni are smarter than everyone else.

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/03/04/bernucca-is-reckless-russell-becoming-relaxed-russell/

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @O O O O O O  

The one bad thing (and probably worst thing) I have NOT seen from Russ in a long time is his tendency to get sucked into one-on-one match ups against the other PG.

 

He use to take that stuff personally. Guys use to be able to get under his skin. Now he seems to stay more focused.

O O O O O O
O O O O O O 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry i think russ game lend itself naturally to some sort of zen style... think as he grows older, he'll penetrate himself further, and less and less shit will get to him, lool then he'll start playing the game w an empty mind, and start balling something ridiculous from there. we need to get in him in front of phil jackson, and some bruce lee movies. smh, i dont think the league is ready for russ at 27. 

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @O O O O O O  no longer commit charges either hes growing up

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lost Ones  I've definitely seen less of him trying to "blake griffin" guys on fast breaks... more methodical for sure.

Lost Ones
Lost Ones 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PKBOB  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @O O O O O O  well that and he's better at achieving angles instead of using force. hes trying to go around people instead of threw them now

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry Instead of jumping over the guy (which is causing the charge), he is working his way around him. Definitely an increase in BBIQ/maturity from last year.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @PKBOB  Interesting thought.... he does seem to use it a lot lately

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts

 @Lost Ones  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @O O O O O O It's that euro-step that he developed which is lowering his charges for sure.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

Does anyone here think that maybe the NBA's shift from true post players to bigs with speed and range has extended what little was left of Kevin Garnet's career?

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry Garnett was/is a good post defender.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @PKBOB True.... but now he's effective at the 5, whereas before he could only defend the 4.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @PKBOB  @Team Gatorade Bry Bry PKBOB, I agree. Not that Dwight isn't a great player, but he should have been a 25+ ppg scorer by now. He just isn't skilled enough to overcome every opponent the way other greats have and do. If he just would have been a passable free throw shooter I might think differently. But as it is, he's not Shaq good as a scorer to get away with Shaq level free throw shooting.

Keith00
Keith00 5pts

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @PKBOB Garnett was often tasked with guarding Duncan, who is the last remaining great post-playing center. He got matched up with Shaq a lot too because he was always Minny's best defender. Sure, he wasn't going to stop Shaq-Duncan-Yao (certainly saw those matchups too) from scoring, but like I said before, nobody was stopping Shaq-Yao, and Duncan is an all-time great. Nobody was shutting down Garnett either, and that had nothing to do with lack of size on opposing teams.

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @Keith00 Off-topic, but IMO, Dwight Howard has never lived up to his potential to this point (offensively).

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @Keith00  @PKBOB 

Kevin Garnet was never able to handle the better centers in the post. But, I see your point about dominant post players. Dwight Howard could have been that guy....... but he's still somehow a work in progress lol

Keith00
Keith00 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @PKBOB I'm not sure that things have changed as drastically as is being presumed. Garnett was always ABLE to guard the 5, but Minny wanted to limit how much punishment he might take. Chris Bosh would have been a fine PF in most any age. He's tall, long, and smart.

 

What needs to be understood is that certain all-time greats skew our perception. Nobody could guard Shaq in his prime, or Yao when healthy. Very few people ever have been built like Hakeem or skilled like Kareem. Players never needed to be burly plodders to guard 90% of the competition. The shift from post-players to stretch-bigs actually increases the need for athleticism (something that is lost much quicker with age). I think the longevity of Garnett just has to do with being an all-time great - he has farther to fall while remaining productive.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @PKBOB Both. There really aren't many guys coming up working on their drop step lol....

AlexR44
AlexR44 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry  @PKBOB

 Very true. This has also probably extended the career of Chris Bosh.

PKBOB
PKBOB 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Team Gatorade Bry Bry I'm not sure if the shift from true post players to bigs with speed is more by default due to the lack of good post players out there in today's game more-so than it being an actual shift or evolution of the game.

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