Harden is ‘pretty, a hundred percent’ sure he’s staying

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James Harden is currently busy trying to do the whole gold medal thing. Which means the Thunder’s biggest offseason question marks have been placed on hold. Both Harden and Serge Ibaka are eligible for extensions, but with them playing basketball, those things aren’t priority right now.

After the dust settles in London, things will advance one way or another. And while a lot of people fret over Harden and Ibaka and the Thunder’s future cap situation, one person seems to be fairly certain there’s nothing to worry about: James Harden. As he told Sam Amick of SI.com:

“I’m pretty, a hundred percent, I’m pretty sure that I’m going to be in Oklahoma City,” Harden said with a reported small stutter. “I’ll let my agent and Mr. Presti and [Thunder owner Clay] Bennett discuss all that, so I’ll let them handle that and stay out of it for right now and worry about the USA Olympics.”

Harden was then asked if the thought of being a featured player with a more prominent role was at all intriguing to him.

“I love winning,” he said. “We have some great guys over here, something special, something I don’t think any other team in the NBA has – young guys who got drafted basically together, year after year after year. We’ve got something special, so I’m focused on what we have and trying to win a championship with these guys.”

Amick notes he talked to Harden about this at Team USA’s July training camp in Las Vegas, meaning he said this before he told Paul Coro of the Arizona Republic that he’d consider playing for the Phoenix Suns if he reaches free agency.

But by the sounds of it, Harden has no intention to do that. Obviously a lot of that falls on what the Thunder offer because if it’s a max deal or even close to it, Harden is likely to sign on without thinking much about it.

At the same time, he’s hinted as possibly taking less money to remain with the Thunder. “This is something special here,” he said. “A dynasty is being built here. So we’re winning, we’re having fun and we’re brothers. The other stuff, you can’t buy it.”

As we all know, what happens with Harden impact Ibaka. And vice versa. But in order to keep both, you have to keep at least one and I’d presume that would begin with Harden. His importance to the team is undeniable, and that’s just not on the floor or off the bench. He balances the top of the roster and that’s an incredibly valuable thing to the structure of the team. Plus, he’s a 22-year-old Olympian that just won Sixth Man of the Year. So yeah, he can ball.

We’ll see what happens after London and there’s a chance to really get to work on this stuff. But one thing’s for certain: Harden’s pretty kinda sorta pretty much positive sure he’s not going anywhere.

Jameswade99
2012-08-07 22:07:29
I want to join the DT fantasy league. Where do I go on the net to sign up? I've only participated in ESPN college football league my friend set up. In that league, we all picked players to complete our teams and were awarded points for their performance each week. We didn't have a draft or anything so often times we all had the same player at the same time thus collecting the same points. It was ok I guess but having a draft would be better. Who do I contact?
Beyond_Petroleum
2012-08-07 22:00:34
 @Thunder S Think about how good this is for Anthony Davis, If I was Hornets fan i would be very excited.
Watson
2012-08-07 22:00:44
 @El Prez http://www.nbauniverse.com/championships/coches_with_titles.htm  
Watson
2012-08-07 21:59:10
 @El Prez I was counting since the 86-87 season. KC won in 85-86, but the effect remains the same lol
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 21:54:04
I have a feeling that someone is going to trade a fantasy player for likes...
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 21:15:38
 @El Prez Where's Chuck Daly? Pistons right?
El Prez
2012-08-07 21:32:39
You're right. Chuck Daly twice with the Pistons...'89, '90. WTF KC Jones won his in'86. Are we counting KC Jones as one of the nine? If not--we have ten coaches. It's a little easier crunching the numbers on my TSN Rating Scale.
okcjim
2012-08-07 12:10:41
The long term plan has to be to amnesty Perk.  I love Perk but he is only really helpful against a hand full of teams and that 8 million of his contract would make it to where 10 million apiece for Harden and Ibaka is way undervalued compared to what the market is paying to 28 million between the two of them gets us to where we need to be I think.  I honestly think the team knows that and that's why they're signing these project centers.  Basically hoping one of them will develop late and be able to be a solid defensive presence when they amnesty Perk.
tydude
2012-08-07 12:22:31
 @okcjim if we amensty perk Cole Aldrich will be our starting center yuck 
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 12:27:34
 @tydude LOL exactly
TaoMaas
2012-08-07 12:32:58
 @tydude    I think Perry Jones might end up being central to this Harden/Ibaka thing.  If he can become the player many thought he could be, it would make these possible roster changes much less critical.
okcjim
2012-08-07 12:37:16
 @tydude  At this point.  Maybe they can pull the "come play for us for nothing and win a championship" card to some aging center somewhere at that point.  You hate to rely on that but it is a possibility if none of the stiffs turn out.
okcjim
2012-08-07 12:38:34
I also think we need to lock them down before they start getting max offers from stupid teams that we have to match to keep them.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 12:50:19
 @okcjim  @tydude I don't think any center who'd be willing to chase a championship on the cheap would be any better than Perk. Just judging from history, guys don't take pay cuts unless they're way past their prime and on the downside of their careers.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 12:52:55
 @okcjim If we want a chance at serge we need to lock him up...James doesn't really matter he'll get max or close to max regardless
okcjim
2012-08-07 12:54:19
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @tydude  He wouldn't have to be better than Perk to help.  He would have to be better than Aldrich.  The Thunder aren't going to sign Harden and Ibaka for 10 each and they can't afford to sign them both for 13-14 million with the current payroll.  Ibaka is much more valuable to us long term and Perk.  He's still getting better.  Perk isn't.  The logical thing to do is to try to keep Ibaka and Harden and amnesty Perk. 
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 12:59:06
 @okcjim  I don't disagree that amnestying Perk is a good option, and probably our only/best option. I just know that we can't rely on the "come play for us for nothing and win a championship" card because that player won't add any value. We're much better off hoping Cole improves.
Legendary_Dork
2012-08-07 13:23:07
honestly id rather have harden than ibaka . if ibaka wants to  much money then see yeaaa. id rather have money left to re sign maynor anyways. Plus we dont know how PJ3 will pan out in practice. Plus if cole or thabeet can shine a little then that amnesty perk idea might not be so bad 
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 13:25:11
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct If you are able to extend Ibaka, you are probably doing so hoping he can play at least 15 minutes a game at center, ideally more. 
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 13:25:32
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct @okcjim If you are able to extend Ibaka, you are probably doing so hoping he can play at least 15 minutes a game at center, ideally more. 
mb22
2012-08-07 13:28:14
 @Legendary_Dork I'm close to being done hoping that Cole will someday shine. 
Legendary_Dork
2012-08-07 13:32:57
 @mb22 seeing cole play with a bunch of summer leaguers doesnt sway me. He didnt have any chemistry with them. Its obvious they see SOMETHING in cole in order to NOT trade his ass
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 13:37:49
 @Legendary_Dork  @mb22 His name is Daniel Orton. That signifies a shake up to me....or its at least possible
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 13:40:35
 @Legendary_Dork  @mb22 His name could also be Hasheem. Cole gotta be worried.
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 13:42:36
 @Jooseppi  Ibaka CAN plat center iIF we have a defensive/ rebounding minded PF who isnt undersized.  A lineup of rw0,harden,kd,Colly, serge  wouldnt be all that bad. The only teams we need perk for would be the L@kers and Spurs. Do we hope we can outscore and rebound them instead? I'd honestly say we are already there. We are NOT a defensive minded team.
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 13:46:35
I think harden is very close to his peak. Thats not a bad thing just less potential growth than Serge can offer. If, Presti is thinking in terms of growth he keeps Serge and hopes he pans out. Conversely, PJ3's potential is higher than Serge's. So you keep Harden and trade serge to the bobcats for picks and filler.   Round n round we go. The draft of PJ3 and his growth this year(which we wont see becuase he wont play much) makes the choice for us.
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 13:48:04
i was done  watching his garbage time this year.(last season)
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 13:49:33
i think drafting PJ3 became our leverage for him to sign earlier. Assuming he loves the team as much as harden does.
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-07 14:07:07
I personally like the idea of blowing the team up and rebuilding it with Kemba Walker, Austin Rivers, and Bizmack Beyombo. 
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-07 14:15:40
 @Bsooreal I don't think so.  Harden can add muscle to that frame and actually post up all the way to SF.  He has a lot more to add to the game as the 6th man on the roseter
ou_sas
2012-08-07 14:18:24
Question that just occurred to me: People talk about Serge having a higher peak than Harden, and if we assume that's true, do we really think that the Thunder big man coaches will be able to effectively bring it out? I submit for your consideration, almost every big man we've had. If you think that Serge can actually reach his potential with our coaching staff, that's great, but uh... you've got kind of a track record going against you so far. I mean, there's always going to be exceptions, but the Thunder's big man record is not stellar.
ou_sas
2012-08-07 14:20:41
Second thought, but how much longer do we expect Collison to keep playing/playing well/effectively? He's almost 32.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 14:25:28
 @ou_sas Until he is 34 imo. We'll let the Spanish coaches bring out his potential.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 14:26:16
 @ou_sas Plus where were you. TC even created a 'FREE OU_SAS!' comment for you yesterday.
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 14:27:01
Only "pretty, a hundred percent" sure? You should be 1000% sure you're staying.
ou_sas
2012-08-07 14:28:09
 @cleandoe Baby_sas was kind of in melt-down mode a lot yesterday, and I had to stay home and take care of him since my wife was at work. Was trying to get some work done for the office while I was there, but didn't even get that finished, let alone get on DT.
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 14:28:14
 @thelaughingwiseman i think that could slow him down on the permimeter. But if he could add more bulk and play deep a la kobe/melo/lbj tand keep his speed then it'd be very hard for us to not pay him the max
cleandoe
2012-08-07 14:31:03
 @ou_sas Well we're glad to have you back.
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-07 14:34:23
I think it's time we move harden to the the starting sg spot and find some cheap players to fill the scoring role
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-07 14:36:09
on the bench
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:36:12
 @ThunderCityUsa or just always leave one of harden, Russ or KD on the floor at all times...hopefully maynor, reggie, pjIII can help score off the bench
alvarex
2012-08-07 14:36:15
 @ou_sas Ibaka has more skill than we utilize.  We just don't feed him in the post more than 3 plays a game, and Westbrook all but gave up on doing post dump-offs on drives last season.  If Ibaka gets into better position and Westbrook has confidence he'll catch/finish, then you'll see Ibaka reach 12/13 points per game, and Westbrook's assists will go up.   I don't foresee either happening, but I can dream.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:37:17
 @EatSleepThunder he did get tricked into thinking he was traded to the hornets a few weeks ago lol
alvarex
2012-08-07 14:37:25
 @OBoymuzik  @ThunderCityUsa We have enough players where we could keep 2 on the floor at all times during the playoffs.  Maybe have a few minutes rest where it's just Harden/Durant with 4 backups (Westbrook is best with one of the other two to play off of).
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:40:40
 @alvarex  @ThunderCityUsa remember dallas's rotation when they won the championship? they would sit dirk first (which would be KD) so Russ and James stay on the floor maybe bring thabo in at the 3..then to start the 2nd quarter it could be   Maynor at the 1 Thabo,Reggie, or Cook at the 2. KD or Thabo at the 3.  PJIII, KD, or Nick at the 4 Nick, PJIII, Cole or Serge at the 5
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-07 14:42:54
@alvarex @OBoymuzik I'm just saying we need our best players out there at the start of the game run away with the game in the first two quarters and just have the bench players there to sustain the lead honestly besides harden our bench is pretty weak maynor is going to be as good as he's been so far I don't think he'll get any better plus that way pj3 can automatically come off the bench and contribute immediately maybe find a realize three point threat and we'd be set
ou_sas
2012-08-07 14:45:23
 @cleandoe Thanks!
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 14:45:36
I may sound a little crazy, but If we have to choose between Ibaka or Harden I'd rather have Ibaka. Ibaka will be a lot cheaper, and I'd rather have a team of Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, and a bunch of good role players than Durant, Westbrook, Harden, and below average role players. Ibaka has a massive ceiling, and he is working really hard this summer trying to reach his potential. He's doing great at the olympics, learning from the Gasols, and then he's going to Hakeem to work on his post moves. I watched the recent Spain game, and when he was passed the ball, he he showed some nice post moves and finishing skills. If Harden leaves and we keep Ibaka, I think he can be a very nice third option. He won't put up the point totals that Harden can put up, but I see him as a 15-10 guy. Also I'm going say something no one on here has probably said before, but I really believe Sefolosha can be a nice fourth scoring option. He's vastly improved his 3 point shooting and he's shown some smooth passing. Now, if there's a way to keep Harden and Ibaka, then I would do it. Those are just my thoughts, I'm sure a lot of you disagree with me. Sorry for it being so long, usually I post short, unintelligent sentences (sometimes that make no sense) so I thought I'd post something that made me seem smart. 
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:45:39
 @ThunderCityUsa  @alvarex  @OBoymuzik i don't really care if hardens in to start the game or not...i just want him there so he gets more chemistry with Russ and KD...and i also think it can't hurt for contract negotiations with him
C-Wil
2012-08-07 14:47:06
Sounds to me like Harden doesn't want to be here. We should trade him for the corpse of Stephon Marbury or possibly Steve Francis. The two guys are total team players, and will benefit us greatly moving forward. 
ou_sas
2012-08-07 14:47:57
 @alvarex For sure, you can see that from the Spanish team. However, he's spending 2 months every 2 years with them, whereas he's spending 10 months every year with the Thunder. So comparatively, any positive effect from playing for Spain is going to be diminished by the regular season with the Thunder.
f5alcon
2012-08-07 14:47:58
 @C-Wil allen iverson
Patrick OKC
2012-08-07 14:48:29
http://proxy.espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/48715/the-top-10-of-olympics-group-play   So according to this, these are the 10 best players in the Olympics so far.  KD is an honorable mention.  Have fun!
C-Wil
2012-08-07 14:48:48
 @f5alcon he'll want a max deal tho. 
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:49:07
 @EatSleepThunder i don't disagree that serge has a higher ceiling but i'm worried that if we were to trade harden we wouldn't contend this year...it would take awhile to adjust, and i don't want the team to be stuck in limbo...and also i think if we choose serge than we HAVE to trade harden during the season and that worries me...if we choose harden and can't keep serge i'd be fine with letting him walk in free agency after we make a run at a title this year
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:49:30
 @Patrick OKC saw it this morning...yuck
cleandoe
2012-08-07 14:49:53
 @f5alcon  @C-Wil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XixBwzJ4KTk
C-Wil
2012-08-07 14:50:14
 @OBoymuzik  @Patrick OKC it's an espn blog post, that alone shoulda told you it would suck. 
duhsweetness
2012-08-07 14:51:30
 @OBoymuzik  @Patrick OKC Read it earlier and laughed. KD should be on there over Patty Mills, Joel Freeland, and Batum EASILY.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 14:52:30
 @C-Wil  @Patrick OKC i'd be willing to bet whoever wrote this knows little to nothing about international ball...because this reeks of "hey lets put these international guys in!" because leigh ellis wouldn't even have patty millionaire on this list lol
duhsweetness
2012-08-07 14:54:34
 @OBoymuzik  Usually Arnovitz is pretty spot on about most things. I think he felt compelled to include Patty Mills 'cause of the game winner. But still, poor form.
Patrick OKC
2012-08-07 14:56:25
 @duhsweetness  @OBoymuzikAt least the comments are still few enough to make trolling fun.  
cleandoe
2012-08-07 14:57:10
 @Patrick OKC Well since Joel Freeland is 'doing his best Nick Collison imitation' we should sign him up. This guy is good enough to keep KD off the top 10!
Patrick OKC
2012-08-07 14:58:28
 @duhsweetness  @OBoymuzikStraight trade for Harden and Ibaka.  
Patrick OKC
2012-08-07 14:58:52
 @cleandoeStraight trae for Harden and Ibaka.   
shiki
2012-08-07 14:58:54
 @Patrick OKC “KD is 1st in pts,2nd in rebs and steals and 4tth in asts(it is great because ball is not on his hand long time) in team USA.and Media says it is Lebron's team”   I said this in another post.and I made a mistake,It is not Lebron's team,it is Lebron and Melo's team
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 15:03:43
replace thabo with Maynor or jackson and this comment makes so much more sense.  I agree keep  Serge name name name Jonas name name name Ibaka for potential's sake.   Devils advocate: isnt the growth od PJ3 > the growth of Maynor/Thabo/Jackson? If so then you take the chance on him over those three.
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 15:05:39
 @cleandoe  @Patrick OKC he will be good for portland.
Bsooreal
2012-08-07 15:06:17
"all your beard belonging to us"
ou_sas
2012-08-07 15:06:43
 @shiki  @Patrick OKC "Melo's a “198 shooter," when you add up field-goal percentage, free-throw percentage and percentage from beyond the arc. "   Nevermind that KD clocks in at 200.6. Of course not.
dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!
2012-08-07 15:10:14
Similar to how we know that OKC has had interest in Thabeet and Orton in the past, is there any legitimate information on whether or not the Thunder have had past interest in Dejuan Blair or am I just imagining that happening?
persiansooner13
2012-08-07 15:11:12
 @cleandoe please dont make fun of allen iverson. Most people here believe that this team, with 4 olympians, 1 of the best post defenders (perk), 1 of the best perimeter defenders (thabo), best backup big (collison) best backup PG (maynor), one of the best shooters (cook), and most promising young player (PJ3) will win about 60 games. The 2000-2001 philadelphia 76ers won 60 games with allen iverson, an old mutombo, AND NOBODY. Imagine if our starting PG going into next season was eric snow? Starting forwards Tyrone Hill and Jumaine Jones? That team won 60 games because of allen iverson. That team went to the finals and beat an invincible laker team in game 1. Allen Iverson is not a punchline
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 15:11:34
 @dancassidy35/FreeLatWill! That would mean giving the spurs something. And knowing the spurs, they would probably make that person into a superstar or something like that.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 15:14:15
 @dancassidy35/FreeLatWill! we don't value rebounding obviously...we value size and potential 
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 15:15:51
 @ThunderCityUsa You serious? Who will come off the bench? Nahhhhh B.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 15:17:01
 @persiansooner13 I don't quite know why you addressed the comment at me. f5alcon made the post and I posted a video. My post just says he isn't the G.O.A.T. What's wrong with that?
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 15:17:24
 @Tricia_status  @ThunderCityUsa so miami should make wade their 6th man?
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 15:21:09
 @OBoymuzik  @ThunderCityUsa I dont even understand your response. Harden needs to be the 6th until OKC finds someone on the squad that can replace him. I believe Maynor's name was called, he just recovering from Knee surgery. PJ3, he's new.  Reggie, showed some good signs in summer league but ... nothing solid. You cant just inject Harden into the starting spot without guaranteed points when someone needs to rest. Its terrible planning.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 15:23:03
 @persiansooner13  Plus 2001 AI is not 2012 AI. f5alcon is perfectly entitled to make that comment. Someone made a joke. Someone added a joke. I added a video. I don't get why you're annoyed over that.
dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!
2012-08-07 15:26:07
He does pass the wingspan test for OKC...
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 15:27:35
 @Tricia_status  @ThunderCityUsa this year miami will have bench production with allen but last season when they won a championship our bench was better than theirs regardless of production in the finals and thats counting james as a starter and thabo as a bench player.    obviously every time we've tried putting harden in the starting lineup it hasn't worked..but harden coming off the bench and not practicing as a starter is probably a reason that he has better chemistry with Daequan and Nick instead of the other 2 stars on the team.   regardless of if harden starts or not there should be no time during a game t where atleast one of harden, Russ or KD is not in the game...so why does that have to change if he becomes a starter?
justin_mia
2012-08-07 15:35:22
 @EatSleepThunder Ibaka a third option?  Replacing the most efficient third option in the NBA that I can remember?  Okay...
justin_mia
2012-08-07 15:40:36
Serge only appears to have a higher ceiling than Harden because he's such an incomplete player.  Everyone is forgetting that Serge didn't even really improve a whole lot from his 2nd to 3rd season other than swatting a lot more shots.  Offensively, he got his points in mostly the same ways he did in his second season, his scoring efficiency was about the same as it was post-Green trade in his 2nd season.  He showed about the same on the boards by the end of the year.  Did he look more comfortable in PnR, both defending and on offense?  Did he look more comfortable with the ball in his hands?  Did he look more comfortable passing the ball?  If so, IMO these improvements were marginal.  How many times did we bemoan Ibaka's stone hands?  He has shown glimpses as any player of Ibaka's athleticism would but I think assigning him this huge ceiling is a mistake, since he's been unable to really shown these things more than once every few games.     Harden on the other hand blew up in his third year as many great talents do (KD, Russ).  His ceiling is higher IMO.  Ibaka not taking a leap in his 3rd year puts a hamper on my expectations for him.
justin_mia
2012-08-07 15:41:21
And of course Harden will stay.  Duh.  OKC is going to max him out of they have to, they are assured Top 3 offense IMO with that trio every year.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-07 15:42:14
Looks like Serge is the odd man out.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 15:43:04
 @justin_mia what's your opinion on harden starting...don't think i've heard yours
anonymous12345
2012-08-07 15:43:29
 @EatSleepThunder Take a look at Javale Mcgee's deal, Serge won't be that much cheaper than Harden
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 15:44:04
 @anonymous12345  @EatSleepThunder if we can get serge for around what javale got we have a shot at keeping both
anonymous12345
2012-08-07 15:44:53
 @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder It comes down to how much of  a discount Harden wants to give the Thunder.  
justin_mia
2012-08-07 15:46:06
 @OBoymuzik He should start, since it makes it easier to give the Harden-Westbrook-Durant group more minutes. You want your three best players on the court together as much as possible.  I thought the three showed some better synergy together at times in the playoffs. 
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 15:47:09
 @justin_mia Plus, see ou_sas' post below about the track record of our development coaches and our previous big man projects. Not that promising.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-07 15:48:18
 @justin_mia  @OBoymuzik If we pay harden max or near max, he better be starting.
justin_mia
2012-08-07 15:50:23
 @Bsooreal  @thelaughingwiseman Harden has a lot of upside because he's way worse than he should be defensively.  Offensively, he still doesn't do anything from mid-range.  He has plenty of room for growth.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-07 15:53:53
 @persiansooner13 Iverson sucks.
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 15:54:27
 @OBoymuzik  @ThunderCityUsa We talking bout Practice? LOL. He hasn't been able to play well with the starters not because he didnt have enough practice as starter. Nothing dictates whether the opposing team's defense will be all starters or not. He didn't play bad. Miami Heat played smart and zoned in on James because he's the only one they couldve contained. We focus on 2 players (Wade and LBJ), they picked one - Harden.    Scotty will play the starting 5 non-stop and they will be tired. YOU KNOW THIS. And if he has to sub, WHO will come in? LOL we all know in Practice that bench isn't running plays with the starters.     
El Prez
2012-08-07 15:55:14
If Harden starts..which he will if signed to a max deal..that would leave the Thunder bench with Eric, Nick, PJIII, Thabo, and you would think Cook. You could still overlap Harden's minutes somewhat with the second unit to utilize his and Nick Collison's chemistry as well. Harden does a lot of things well. I would think Presti and Pelinka will figure this all out.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-07 15:59:23
 @El Prez Maynor / Jackson / Thabo / PJIII / Cole should be an OK scoring lineup.
alvarex
2012-08-07 16:01:43
 @justin_mia He showed better spacing and 1-on-1 defense, but that's about it (and blocking shots, which he already was great at).  Spacing wise I mean 2 years ago he was constantly in the way of a driver in the lane, resulting in bad dump-offs.  He still is in the wrong position at times, but it was a lot less.   1-on-1 defense I point to the Dirk defense.  He actually did alright against him (eye ball wise) when defending Dirk in the postseason.  2 years ago he was absolutely man-handled in every possible way by Dirk.  He isn't an elite 1-on-1 defender, but he's improved.   He showed flashes of post moves too, but we never went to him in the post because our best scorers are on the wings.   To allow Ibaka to have a breakout season he has to be a feature part of the offense.  Unlike defense, offense requires your teammates to look for you.  That's why we saw such a great stride in his blocking this year.  He doesn't have to be a focal part of the defense to get blocks.  I would like to see him get better at rebounding his area better.  Durant's still our best player at that, and he's not exactly a world-beater considering his size advantage (compared to centers/power forwards, not small forwards).
Tronchaser
2012-08-07 16:03:00
Congrats to the USA Beach vball team 2... looks like an all US Gold medal match!
El Prez
2012-08-07 16:05:05
Good point. I forgot about Reggie and I shouldn't have. Reggie could very well be an effective two guard with that unit. Cole over Nick Collison--I'm not seeing just yet. Here's the thing which bothers me about Cole Aldrich. Since the Jayhawks won the national championship his freshman year--have you seen any real upward movement in Cole Aldrich's game? I thought Cole's best year at Kansas was his freshman year when he had a somewhat limited role.
alvarex
2012-08-07 16:06:05
I wonder what other teams would do if we brought Harden, Westbrook and Durant off the bench.  You know, switch up the rotation so that they come in at the 6 minute mark of the first.  If our "second unit" was good enough to break even with other teams starters, our boys would come in fresh and still play their 35-40 minutes.   No coach would ever do that.  It goes against common sense to platoon your best players.  Or atleast conventional sense.  So sadly I'll never have my answer other than peoples conjecture.
Grolgar
2012-08-07 16:09:11
@MisterJohnsonOKC I'm not sure about that. That looks like a pretty weak scoring lineup to me.
alvarex
2012-08-07 16:10:17
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @El Prez That would be an average defensive unit, a below average offensive unit, but an amazing fast break unit.  Hell, that line-up could have started for the Bobcats last year.   Bad example?!
Grolgar
2012-08-07 16:11:43
@alvarex Why would we feature Ibaka in the offense when he has no go-to move? It's not that different from going to Perk...
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 16:12:09
 @alvarex You might have an answer if the Thunder played in Europe. The coaches over there are all about strategy like that.
alvarex
2012-08-07 16:13:12
 @Grolgar  @alvarex My point is that we, as fans, don't know that yet.  You may be right, but even if he develops post moves how is he better than Westbrook, Harden and Durant?  Especially if we don't know those moves will work in the regular season.   Basically what I'm saying is that he'll never get a chance to prove his ability because in the regular season, we already have 3 excellent offensive threats that will get the ball more often.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 16:16:49
 @alvarex  I understand your point, and I agree with you - as long as Russ/Harden/KD are on the floor, Serge will not get the chance to be a scoring threat. There is no royal jelly left for Serge to improve in that area. Serge is going to have to learn to use his time on the floor to contribute in other ways. There's plenty of royal jelly left for that, since we have no post player who is especially adept at rebounding/putbacks, and there is always royal jelly for defense.
Grolgar
2012-08-07 16:19:32
@justin_mia Hit the nail on the head when he said that it is now looking more likely that Ibaka will never reach the high ceiling that everyone has for him (and often have for athletic big men). Just because someone is tall and athletic does not mean that they will eventually turn into Hakeem Olajuwon. Ibaka has terrible hands, and limited upside from where he is now. He improved very little last year in key areas, and I do not expect him to dramatically improve much more. He is a great role player. Harden, on the other hand, has carried us through crucial playoff games, and shown great consistency over an entire season. I can't understand anyone that would ever even entertain the idea of keeping Ibaka over Harden. It seems like such a no-brainer to me.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:20:37
 @alvarex Wouldn't it just balance itself out against big teams? Their starters would go up against our 'second unit' and vise versa.
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 16:23:00
 @justin_mia you think Dwight Howard is where he supposed to be? I'm not comparing Ibaka to Dwight, but maybe some positions take longer to develop.
alvarex
2012-08-07 16:23:03
 @Grolgar  @justin_mia I feel that Harden has no where to go but down efficiency wise.  If he truly is the player we saw all last year + more of the Ginobliness he showed in the playoffs then I agree, basically a no brainer.  I'm just not convinced yet as last year was such an odd year with the condensed schedule.   And the fact that he has 3 plays he's good at (outside of catch n shoot), which can all be countered by athletic trappers.   Although one of the big reasons I'm more Ibaka than Harden is all the hate Ibaka gets because he doesn't put up huge offensive numbers.  The only thing I dislike about his defense is his rebounding rate, but that can also be attributed to KD being more aggressive on the boards.  If he improves that I'll be ecstatic.
El Prez
2012-08-07 16:25:08
You'd have two of our better defenders on the floor in Collison and Thabo. Eric at the point, Reggie at the 2, Thabo at the 3, PJ at the 4, and Nick at the 5. Reggie and PJ's offensive production would be the key. Yeah, a smaliish team, but I find it somewhat intriguing. Reggie's play at the 2 would be the key. Could he be a consistent finsher? I think he will with time.
alvarex
2012-08-07 16:27:10
 @cleandoe Depends on how you look at it.  If our "second unit" is good enough defensively to keep the other teams starters at bay, then our "A Unit" would destroy any other teams backups.  It would require a good defensive B Unit to work.  Or atleast one with enough playmakers to keep things interesting.   Basically, unit matchups aren't simple math "A is better than B, and B is better than C".  If our B unit is good enough defensively to match up to other teams A unit, then it is more of a wash, even if our B's offense can't get much done against the other teams A.  But no teams B unit can match our A unit, know what I'm saying?  You can switch "defensively" with any other factor too, like offense, full-court, rebounding, hustle, etc.   Not saying it would work against the Heat, but something to ponder.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:30:50
 @alvarex I see where you're coming from. Maybe take out starters out quite early but keep them in long enough to set the benchmark on the game.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:31:53
Someone mentioned creating a fantasy league before. Who's up for it? because we need numbers
ou_sas
2012-08-07 16:32:47
 @El Prez Thabo not being a 4th option might help his offensive game too. He played a pretty good offensive game last summer during the lock-out, no reason to think that given the opportunity (and lesser defensive competition), he might not thrive a little.
ou_sas
2012-08-07 16:35:53
 @cleandoe I did - at least for basketball. I copy-pasta'd the thread in an email to myself so I wouldn't forget, but here's where it is: http://dailythunder.com/2012/07/kelly-crull-not-returning-as-thunder-sideline-reporter/
Tricia_status
2012-08-07 16:38:18
 @cleandoe I'd be interested. I'm inexperienced but I'll take it serious.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 16:40:32
 @cleandoe i'm in
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:42:15
 @ou_sas Cool. I do that but with bookmarks. I'm thinking a head to head most catergories league. to make it more competitive but realistic. Plus the draft should be an auction with 200. They are fun, especially with people you know.  Oh, and I should be the league manager
S4TISF4CTION
2012-08-07 16:42:39
 @cleandoe I'll play too.
Legendary_Dork
2012-08-07 16:44:51
 @Patrick OKC i........i ..think i just threw up in my mouth reading that. boooo
Barry Amenema
2012-08-07 16:45:52
 @ou_sas you shouldn't mention a "pasta-ed" thread so late in the afternoon [stomach rumbles]
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:49:03
Guys there's a max of 20 so this is first come first served. So far we got: Cleandoe ou_sas tricia_status OBoymusik S4TISF4CTI0N EatSleepThunder? Jax Raging Bile Duct?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 16:51:05
 @cleandoe I'm this group's taco (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=iles/091118) - you don't want me. If previous years performance is any indicator of this years participation success, you'll have enough participants for at least 3 leagues.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 16:51:34
 @cleandoe Hat tip to @OBoymuzik 
ou_sas
2012-08-07 16:52:42
 @cleandoe I think Elmexi was interested at the time too.
ou_sas
2012-08-07 16:54:50
 @cleandoe When I have 3 computers (work, home desktop, laptop), I tend to use email just because it shares easier.   Which website do you prefer as far as the league goes? I'm a yahoo sports guy for fantasy stuff myself, but, whatever.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:57:31
 @ou_sas I use Rockmelt browser. It's basically google chrome (exact same model and codes) but linked with fb. It doesn't track or anything - it's just like your login. So you can use it anywhere and all your history, bookmarks etc go with you.  I use ESPN
cleandoe
2012-08-07 16:59:20
These are the rules I request. There can be a compromise (I guess) http://tiny.cc/ftxoiw http://tiny.cc/4txoiw http://tiny.cc/nuxoiw 
ou_sas
2012-08-07 16:59:39
 @cleandoe huh. I'm a chrome user myself - I prefer the sleek look over Mozilla and the other browser. That's a cool function though to be able to take things with you.   I've got an ESPN login, so no bigs. (as if it wasn't free).
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:02:45
 @ou_sas Same with me. Check it out for a sec. It's got loads of cool features you'll wonder how you managed without. It's a social network browser basically but i only use FB so it's good enough for me. For you other guys it will be able to multitask all your things at once so its good. I dont know how it works since i dont use it but from everything else ive seen it must be good :)
ou_sas
2012-08-07 17:04:21
 @cleandoe Lol, I like how you set the maximum at 4 centers. No copying Houston at that position allowed!   8 stats, am I reading that right?    I don't see anything I can't live with. Dunno about anyone else though. Though I've not done an auction before, so that should be interesting. Were you thinking online auction?
ou_sas
2012-08-07 17:06:04
 @cleandoe I'll d/l and check it out when I get home from work.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 17:07:01
 @ou_sas  @cleandoe rockmelt felt a little janky to me..i use chrome now that it syncs up with the ipad...before i used firefox
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:07:33
 @ou_sas Don't watch the old official vid from 2010. Its an old model. Watch this instead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At0ZVRTyQcM
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:09:30
 @ou_sas Of course. Btw those 4 centers are default lol. I dont know why but I decided against changing it. Auctions are very interesting. Someone blew 188 on Blake Griffin. Yeah... we didn't see him anymore. The only problem is getting a time where everyone is available.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:09:59
 @ou_sas What do you mean by 8 stats? Too much? Too little?
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:11:54
 @OBoymuzik  When did you have Rockmelt last? what was wrong with it?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 17:12:11
 @cleandoe As an unbiased, 3rd party, non-participant, I'd say that this group should include (if possible) at least one advanced metric stat to include in the league - for no other reason that poetic justice.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:16:33
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct Well now you mention it. An uneven stat number would make it easier to tiebreak the most catorgories game type. The most advanced stats are: Adj. FG% Assists to TO ratio (A/TO) Steals to TO ratio (STR)   But wouldn't you feel hard done by to lose to an advanced stats. I'd rather Team Wins.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 17:18:18
 @cleandoe i tried it first a year or so ago and then gave it another shot a few months ago...just didn't seem very clean to me..the social features are nice but i use a twitter client on my desktop anyways and am not big on facebook
OBoymuzik
2012-08-07 17:19:30
is it going to rain? is it?    go rain!!!!!!
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:19:54
 @OBoymuzik Fair enough. I dont know if it's the same model but everyones entitled to their own opinion. I just like this browser :D
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-08-07 17:24:03
 @cleandoe Adj. FG% is probably the only usable stat in a fantasy league. It would drive the value of a guy like Russ up and a guy like Kobe and Melo down. Which is just snooty enough to be worthwhile in a DT fantasy league.
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 17:25:48
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @cleandoe A winshares DT fantasy league would be so cruel.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:26:29
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct So just drop FG% for Adj FG%. I like that. Now for the last slot?  
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:27:29
 @Jooseppi  @Jax Raging Bile Duct Or right! Slip of the mind (is that a phrase?). I thought it was if the team wins you get a point.
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 17:28:50
 @alvarex  Harden will inevitably have decreased efficiency for a number of reason. For one, he had a historic year in terms of efficiency.  http://bit.ly/MrQzQu Is he going to put up a .660 TS% on 20 or more usage again? Probably not. Why? Because it's insanely efficient for a perimeter player. Just because he had an historic mark this season doesn't mean any mark lower than that is not worthwhile. He can put up a lower mark and still have a better season offensively with an increased role. 
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 17:30:18
@alvarex Harden will inevitably have decreased efficiency for a number of reasons. For one, he had a historic year in terms of efficiency.  http://bit.ly/MrQzQu Is he going to put up a .660 TS% on 20 or more usage again? Probably not. Why? Because it's insanely efficient for a perimeter player. Just because he had an historic mark this season doesn't mean any mark lower than that is not worthwhile. He can put up a lower mark and still have a better season offensively with an increased role.  
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 17:32:32
 @OBoymuzik It's raining here. Yay. 
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 17:39:09
 @alvarex  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @El Prez Reggie is a good prospect with some desirable offensive skills. He'll find his way. I wouldn't worry about whether the nominal "bench unit" has enough scoring because moving Harden to the starting lineup will inevitably shift the periods Russ, Harden and Durant spend on the floor to make up for it. It's not like Coach K line changes are common in the NBA. 
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:39:28
YEAH! 13.3 on Google Hurdles :)
AllDae
2012-08-07 17:52:29
 @cleandoe I'm in. 
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 17:59:26
 @cleandoe I'll play. But I warn you, my drafting skills are pretty good. Although I did make the mistake of drafting Thaddeus Young over James Harden...........
cleandoe
2012-08-07 17:59:58
 @EatSleepThunder I got LeBron. Nuff said
cleandoe
2012-08-07 18:02:06
lol at you all trying to break it so you can come and post it here :P
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 18:04:13
 @cleandoe I think it would be interesting to do keeper rules, where we can keep some of our players from one season into the next. That would mean we would play multiple years. I don't know if you guys want to take that on, but I kind of want to do that. Should we take a vote on that?
cleandoe
2012-08-07 18:07:07
 @EatSleepThunder I wouldn't mind. I'd rather not but if others wanted to I couldn't care less.
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 18:09:09
 @cleandoe We could have two separate leagues, one with keeper and one without, so the ones that don't want to play keeper rules can play without them.
Crow
2012-08-07 18:14:18
If it is true that the Heat and Spurs both have inquired about Blatche, then I need not apologize for simply considering the merits (such as they are) of players like Orton, Whiteside, etc.    Can't say for sure from the outside but it appears to me that many contenders are more flexible in what they will consider or considering doing than Presti.
Crow
2012-08-07 18:15:43
If it is true that the Heat and Spurs both have inquired about Blatche, then I need not apologize for simply considering the merits (such as they are) of players like Orton, Whiteside, etc.
Legendary_Dork
2012-08-07 18:23:18
*listens outside* OMG, whats that sound...is that...THUNDER *pun totally intended*  :D
bmuelle21
2012-08-07 18:23:40
i'm in for the fantasy league if there is still room
Crow
2012-08-07 18:24:53
Nobody seems to racing to offer extensions (except the Clips with Griffin). It probably will wait til Oct. Will be interesting to see if Presti tries the offer $5-10 million less (total) than what Harden and his agent are expecting routine or not and if he moves up and how quick.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 18:25:41
 @bmuelle21 yup. No problem bro.
Crow
2012-08-07 18:26:19
and B Lopez
supreme35
2012-08-07 18:36:05
 @OBoymuzik lol does it not rain there?
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 18:36:26
 @supreme35  It's been a tough summer for rain. 
supreme35
2012-08-07 18:37:20
 @Jooseppi ah ok
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 18:53:40
 @Crow I don't know why but I got a feeling he's going to go in at close to the most he thinks we can afford, hope Harden jumps at it, and put this behind him quickly.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 19:09:09
I'm re-thinking this. For the draft, auction or snake?
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 19:16:13
I've started glancing at some guys in the 2013 draft and it looks like I'll be following Rice basketball a bit. Arsalan Kazemi is interesting. Probably a second round talent. 
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 19:22:10
 @Jooseppi Draft Express currently has him pegged round 2 pick 28. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Arsalan-Kazemi-5665/stats/  
Lasers
2012-08-07 19:23:25
If it's possible to keep both through amnestying Perk then we do it. But consider, LAL's probably gonna have a big year.
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 19:27:22
 @Old Man Game He's a bit small but his rebounding is interesting. Going to be overlooked because of his size and age, 
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 19:31:24
 @Old Man Game Also just noticed they have LeBryan Nash at 11. Funny. 
Lasers
2012-08-07 19:32:32
 @Tricia_status  @OBoymuzik  @ThunderCityUsa I'm pretty excited to see what sort of dynamic could develop between RJ, PJ3, and Maynor.
Lasers
2012-08-07 19:51:29
 @El Prez Pretty excited about the bench this year.
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 19:51:48
 @Jooseppi Ouch.
persiansooner13
2012-08-07 20:02:05
 @Jooseppi You are my new favorite member. I will like all of your posts from now on
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 20:04:59
 @persiansooner13 I started looking at him back when OSU was recruiting him. Interesting kid. Hope he can get stronger. 
Jooseppi
2012-08-07 20:05:21
 @Old Man Game At least he's probably never going to end up like his brother: http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/9080/93235216.jpg
persiansooner13
2012-08-07 20:07:41
 @Jooseppi Kazemi is basically Nick Collison except 6'7", which does not bode well for him, but recently there have been a lot of undersized rebounders doing well, so maybe there is hope for him. He really is a rebounding machine. But he has 0 perimeter skills. He may be able to guard 3s tho
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-07 20:16:01
Just got back in town . . . Did I miss anything good today???
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 20:16:33
 @Jooseppi Looking like Tractor Failer.
cleandoe
2012-08-07 20:24:05
 @ThunderChick2010 not too much. i posted russ' "eurostomp" in the last thread. do you want to join our fantasy league?
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-07 20:29:48
 @cleandoe Better not . . . I'd be clueless.
cemitten
2012-08-07 20:33:06
I lost power for a long time. 
cleandoe
2012-08-07 20:33:54
 @ThunderChick2010 its not hard. come on tc.:)
El Prez
2012-08-07 20:38:02
1.19 inches of rainfall at the DT Deer Creek Weather Reporting Station on Covell between May & Portland. So beautiful to see rain. It's the first measurable precip we've had since June 21st. Looking at the radar--am hopeful so more will drift southeasterly. Hope the rains hit all the areas hit by wildfires late last week.
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-07 20:40:27
 @ou_sas  @cleandoe  Hur?? 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-07 20:40:55
 @cleandoe  I guess i'm down! 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-07 20:43:41
I want Tony Parker, Manu, Andre Iguadala, Paul Millsap, and Marc Gasol. 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-07 20:44:29
If any of you get them i will silence you.
Watson
2012-08-07 20:48:35
My funfact for the week. In the last 26 years, 9 coaches have won an NBA Title. We fret over the need for a big guy, or better role players, or for Harden to not disappear when he's needed the most, but sometimes we don't realize that OKC is one stellar-ly coached playoff run away from a title as-is. I'm not arguing for or against Scotty in any sense, but he will have to grow as a coach for us to win a title. 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-07 20:48:58
Reason being i know everyone else that's at the top of their position will already be gone. 
Watson
2012-08-07 20:50:26
Actually I'm pretty sure everyone realizes it. As you were.
DennisBerry
2012-08-07 21:01:12
 @El Prez We for like 9 drops
bmuelle21
2012-08-07 21:01:37
 @ElMexiThunder you realize that if i'm ahead of you i'm now going to pick these guys just to piss you off..
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 21:07:49
 @Watson It can't be said enough. Scott Brooks needs to either pull his head out or hit the bricks.
Thunder S
2012-08-07 21:08:34
Ive got to think our guys' basketball iq is improving tremendously just being around all these other guys. especially on defense. Hopefully russ can also learn some of the finer points of floor generaling.
El Prez
2012-08-07 21:11:40
That is a fun trivia question.   1 Phil Jackson 2 Pat Riley 3 Greg Popovich 4 Eric Spoelstra 5 Rick Carlisle 6 Doc Rivers 7 Rudy T 8 KC Jones 9 ?   I got the first eight without googling and will admit #9 stumped me--but it shouldn't have especially since I bleed OU hoops.   Larry Brown 2004 Detroit Pistons   Good question. That was fun.        
Jameswade99
2012-08-07 22:10:43
@El Prez Where's Rudy T from Houston? 1994-95.
justin_mia
2012-08-07 22:11:55
 @alvarex  @Grolgar How many plays does Ibaka have that he's good at?  Harden wasn't just 'good' on PnR he was the best in the entire league last year.  
justin_mia
2012-08-07 22:14:06
 @Tricia_status Not coincidentally, Dwight took a huge leap himself in his third year.  The fact that Serge did not improve a lot from year two to three is an ominous sign.
Watson
2012-08-07 22:14:33
Hey @cleandoe , you got any fantasy spots left? If you so, I would like in pleez.
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 22:15:38
 @Jameswade99  @El No. 7
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 22:18:19
Hey you peoples if you want to join the fantasy, I have successfully stalked back to find cleandoe's email adress. Spam him (not really) until you get a reply saying you can join. His adress is....... *cue epic music* cleandoedt@gmail.com  
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 22:19:13
thats probably not his regular adress since it hat DT at the end, but it's worth a try. He'll probably show up later if you don't want to send him an email.
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 22:21:10
dang i cannot spell address. ITS WITH 2 D'S COUNT IT TWO.
Jameswade99
2012-08-07 22:21:11
@EatSleepThunder Just emailed an information request. Now let's see if my email gets bounced back?
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-07 22:23:05
 @Jameswade99  @EatSleepThunder I literally copied and pasted it from his comment, so if it bounces back he probably closed his account.
El Prez
2012-08-07 22:45:54
@Watson--thanx for the clarification. I thought that might be the deal. It's shameful I forgot Chuck Daly. Larry Brown -- not as much. I always equate Larry Brown more as a college coach at UCLA and Kansas--than an NBA coach.   Name the starting five for that '88 Kansas Jayhawk team which beat OU 83-79 in the '88 NCAA Championship Game. No googling.
Jameswade99
2012-08-07 22:49:52
This is a very very quiet comments night on DT. Must be some good shows on TV.
duhsweetness
2012-08-07 22:52:25
 @Jameswade99 I just finished watching Valhalla Rising.
Old Man Game
2012-08-07 22:57:32
 @Jameswade99 All Olympics all the time in the Old Man Game household.
DennisBerry
2012-08-07 23:00:20
Hey does anyone here work at Tinker AFB? I work at Fort Sill now but wanna get a job up there so I can move up North to OKC with all the cool people
El Prez
2012-08-07 23:17:55
It's the rain. I've been mezmerized watching the radar. Hobart, Altus, and Mangum are all going to receive relevant precip. Chickasha might get some as well. I'm hoping this moves over to Alex and help out our pond. It's hard to focus on DT chat witht the radar buzzing like this. We missed the second wave in Deer Creek, but 1.19 is nothing to sneeze at in the midst of a drought.
DennisBerry
2012-08-07 23:23:39
Did anyone see Tulsa's own Liz Cambage become the first woman to dunk in the Olympics a few days ago? http://youtu.be/XTZRt7xsHqE
DennisBerry
2012-08-07 23:42:41
http://outofbounds.weei.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/KevinDurant_shimmy_original.gif
MD4Okc
2012-08-07 23:42:54
 @Old Man Game  @Jameswade99 I don't know why I thought I would never see this http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/07/stephan-feck-video-worst-olympic-dive_n_1752738.html at the olympics. Gotta feel pretty bad for the guy
MD4Okc
2012-08-07 23:45:31
 @DennisBerry  you're getting DT used to your late night gifs.
DennisBerry
2012-08-07 23:48:30
 @MD4Okc http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg534/AlwayzNToSumthin/Definitive%20Sports/mikemillerlikesit.gif
DennisBerry
2012-08-07 23:49:00
http://i1242.photobucket.com/albums/gg534/AlwayzNToSumthin/Definitive%20Sports/mikemillerlikesit.gif
persiansooner13
2012-08-08 00:23:15
 @El Prez Nick Collison Cole Aldrich Wilt Chamberlain Kirk Hienrich Mario Chalmers   wow no googling sucks
BrockSuede
2012-08-08 03:10:32
 @DennisBerry  Don't tell Jim Traber. He may go into shock.
BrockSuede
2012-08-08 03:15:04
 @El Prez  You're an interesting fellow @El Prez . BTW, the double rainbow by my place in OKC was exquisite. Need the sprinkle too.
Old Man Game
2012-08-08 07:12:25
 @MD4Okc  @Jameswade99 HA! I hadn't seen that either.
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-08 07:54:56
Off to Fort Worth . . . talk to you guys later!
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-08 08:02:33
 @El Prez Chickasha got just a little . . .
Tronchaser
2012-08-08 08:15:58
 @ThunderChick2010 Have a great trip TC!
cleandoe
2012-08-08 08:20:26
 @Tronchaser  Do you want to join the DT Fantasy league?
Tronchaser
2012-08-08 08:36:07
 @cleandoe No thanks bro.  I've been in one for 15 years.  It's awesome, and we go on road trips to games ever other year.  Great time, and great guys, so I try to limit my fantasy stuff to just that.
cleandoe
2012-08-08 08:39:26
 @Tronchaser Fair enough. Just an excuse to get your email to spam you for your ideas anyways :)
Tronchaser
2012-08-08 08:42:36
 @cleandoe Good thinking, but no dice this time.   The idea is pretty good, I promise, but if I go spamming it all over the interwebs, it might be snatched up.  I can't have that.  I have to talk to my friend who works with this kind of stuff 1st to get a feel if it can even be done.  I promise, if it ever comes to fruition, DT'ers will be the 1st to know about it.
AllDae
2012-08-08 08:46:22
Is there a game today? If so, what time? 
Tronchaser
2012-08-08 08:46:46
 @AllDae 4:15 CT I believe, versus the Aussies.
cleandoe
2012-08-08 08:49:06
OMG OMG You can get a DT app for Rockmelt. http://s1169.photobucket.com/albums/r518/cleandoe/?action=view&current=dtapp.jpg
Tronchaser
2012-08-08 08:52:57
 @cleandoe What's rockmelt?
cleandoe
2012-08-08 08:54:21
 @Tronchaser It's a browser. It's basically google chrome (exact same model and codes) but linked with fb. It doesn't track or anything - it's just like your login. So you can use it anywhere and all your history, bookmarks etc go with you.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At0ZVRTyQcM
SoonerSpens
2012-08-08 09:08:29
 @cleandoe BTW if you still need more for fantasy basketball, I'll play. I've never done it though, just football, so I'll probably suck!
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:11:48
 @SoonerSpens No fear. I won my first one. Beginners luck, I guess. Stay tuned for my announcement in the Bolts
SoonerSpens
2012-08-08 09:13:42
 @cleandoe Also never done an auction, so this should be interesting!
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:19:15
 @SoonerSpens Hehe. I guess it's more fair than a normal draft in terms of fantasy league. You want them - you better cough up
shiki
2012-08-08 09:22:24
shved plays like Russ
SoonerSpens
2012-08-08 09:22:24
 @cleandoe Sounds like fun. I'll be that guy that gives Harden max though :P
ou_sas
2012-08-08 09:42:55
 @cleandoe  @Tronchaser Do they have Rockmelt for the Android platform though? If I could get that...
Tricia_status
2012-08-08 09:46:09
 @cleandoe  @SoonerSpens Can you hit me on the twitter if miss your update about fantasy basketball on the bolts? I dont want to miss the opportunity to beat (ehhh heemmm) participate with you all.   Just @ Tricia_Status.  
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:47:53
 @ou_sas  @Tronchaser I don't think so :(
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:49:04
 @Tricia_status  @SoonerSpens I'll just post it now since Royce is taking his time. I'll repost it when he puts them up. The things I do for you :)
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:49:11
DT Fantasy League: I need the email address of everyone that wants to join in. For some reason you can't use a password which would make everything sooooooo much easier :(   So far we have: cleandoe ou_sas Tricia_status OBoymusik S4TISF4CTI0N EatSleepThunder All Dae jameswade99 Watson El Mexi Thunder bmuelle21   We have room for 9 more if you'd like to join Everyone's team name should be their name on here, for obvious reasons.   These are the league settings http://games.espn.go.com/fba/leaguesetup/settings?leagueId=8279 Consult me if you wish to change anything. via here or cleandoeDT@gmail.com Thanks :)  
todayisbananas
2012-08-08 09:50:25
Years and years of training.   http://i.imgur.com/8rB5Q.gif
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:51:07
 @todayisbananas Do you reckon I'd have got more points if I did the bomb dive?
ou_sas
2012-08-08 09:51:07
 @cleandoe I've had more exposure to snake, which will be pretty cool with 20 people drafting, but I'd like to try auction too. *shrug*
ou_sas
2012-08-08 09:52:03
 @cleandoe  @Tronchaser And the search for a livefyre app on Android continues...
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:52:07
DT Fantasy League: I need the email address of everyone that wants to join in. For some reason you can't use a password which would make everything sooooooo much easier :(   So far we have: cleandoe ou_sas Tricia_status OBoymusik S4TISF4CTI0N EatSleepThunder All Dae jameswade99 Watson El Mexi Thunder bmuelle21 SoonerSpens   We have room for 8 more if you'd like to join Everyone's team name should be their name on here, for obvious reasons.   These are the league settings http://games.espn.go.com/fba/leaguesetup/settings?leagueId=8279 Consult me if you wish to change anything. via here or cleandoeDT@gmail.com Thanks :)  
cleandoe
2012-08-08 09:52:47
Bolts are up. Now I know instantly thanks to my app :)
ou_sas
2012-08-08 09:53:36
 @cleandoe It's basically an RSS feed, it looks like.
cleandoe
2012-08-08 10:03:40
 @ou_sas Yeah. But it's better than constantly refreshing 
Tricia_status
2012-08-08 10:21:51
 @cleandoe  :) Thank you soooo much
Tricia_status
2012-08-08 10:22:13
 @cleandoe show off  
cleandoe
2012-08-08 10:34:29
 @Tricia_status Send us your email and you'll be in the league.