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KD responds to Skip Bayless’s comments

by Royce Young on September 11, 2012 at 4:07 pm 117 Comments

So Kevin Durant’s working out with LeBron again this summer. Naturally, some are going to make a deal out that, because of what took place in the NBA Finals. And by some, I mean Skip Bayless who had some very strong words for KD about it.

“I say once again, Kevin Durant, congratulations you are owned by LeBron James,” Bayless said. “Have fun in next year’s NBA Finals finishing second again.”

Not surprisingly, that test of manhood wasn’t overlooked by KD who responded to Bayless via Twitter:

Of course this isn’t the first time Durant has scuffled with Bayless, as KD defended Russell Westbrook last season from Bayless’s constant criticism of the OKC point man.

Bayless said that part of the reason the Heat won in five games over the Thunder was because OKC couldn’t get in LeBron’s head. He said that because Durant respects his “best bud” LeBron so much he played him differently.

“LeBron James was able to operate knowing that not only would Kevin Durant not talk trash to him, he wouldn’t get physical with him, he wouldn’t incite any fights or pushing matches with him, that he would just let LeBron do what LeBron does best: attack the basket.”

Now, a few things about that mindset: Primarily, KD didn’t actually defend LeBron all that much in the Finals. Because of foul trouble and concerns of foul trouble, the Thunder used Thabo Sefolosha and James Harden mostly on LeBron while Durant defended Shane Battier or Mario Chamlers.

Secondly, one team tried Bayless’s philosophy last postseason with LeBron and it failed spectacularly. The Pacers attempted to rough up LeBron, tried to push him, grab him, talk trash and gesture at him (Lance Stephenson with the choke sign), tried to incite fights (Danny Granger, especially). It didn’t work. LeBron was magical in that series leading the Heat back from a 2-1 deficit despite Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade battling injuries.

And like Stephen A. Smith wisely pointed out, it’s not like KD wilted on the biggest stage of his NBA career. In the Finals, Durant averaged 30.6 points, 6.0 rebounds and 4.0 assists per game while shooting 54.8 percent from the floor. If anything, playing LeBron brought out the very best in KD, as his game rose to another level.

But what of the argument that Durant shouldn’t be training with his closest competitor and seemingly sworn enemy and rival? Should he really be buddy-buddy with LeBron after losing to him in the Finals just months earlier?

I’d certainly agree that the idea of LeBron and KD working out together is uncomfortable. Because we as fans have this idea that the only friends you’re allowed to have are the ones wearing the same color shirt as you. There’s a life outside the lines though. These guys aren’t programmed robots that swear loyalty to only their team and teammates. There’s no blood oath in basketball. On the floor? Yes, absolutely. Off it though, it’s another world.

Just because you’re friends doesn’t mean you’re going to play with any less heart or desire against the other guy. If anything, when I’m playing one of my friends in something whether it’s ping-pong, fantasy football or golf, I want to beat them more. Because friends don’t let you forget. If KD softened up because LeBron’s his pal, then there’s no way Durant would’ve made it this far. KD’s an incredibly fierce and passionate competitor and a guy that backs down from no one. Durant’s been friends with guys like Ty Lawson, Michael Beasley and others for a long time. And he’s never backed down from them.

Like I said, I can understand a Thunder fan’s trepidation of this. On the surface, it just kind of feels gross. But don’t forget, Russell Westbrook trains with Derrick Rose in the offseason. James Harden works out with other players. KD and LeBron are seen differently because they’re supposed to be the next big NBA rivals. I guarantee you just because KD runs some lines with LeBron or does a shooting drill with him doesn’t make him want to beat his brains out any less. Durant has a one track mind of improvement and wouldn’t be doing anything that stunts that. And if training with LeBron gives him any kind of edge or opportunity to get better, then it only makes sense, right?

KD’s a grown man. He makes his own decisions. He knows himself better than any sportswriter, any analyst, any talking head. He knows what he’s doing. The only player I wouldn’t want him training with is Andray Blatche, because I wouldn’t want KD to actually get worse at basketball.

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thunderfan005
thunderfan005 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I've quit listening to the dumb ass Jim Traber. And I could give a damn about the fraud, skip bayless. They both say stupid crap to incite sports fans and I'm done with it. I'm sure I've added 8 years to my life by being done with these assholes

Skip_Bayless
Skip_Bayless 5pts

I have a HUGE problem with this, as it concerns my FAVORITE player, Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is once again falling right into Prince James trap. LeBron is a shrewd operator and he knows that you keep your friends close and your enemies closer!  Kevin Durant, LeBron has DUPED you into taking the pressure off of him! I’ve suggested cheap, underhanded, nefarious tactics such as cheap shots and trash talking LeBron. And I grant you that LeBron did perform well in the Indiana series where they tried many of these very same tactics that I am advocating as but may I remind you that in game 3 of that very same Indiana series, for a 3 minute stretch of the 2nd quarter, LeBron missed 3 consecutive shots and then what happened, you ask?  Granger twisted his ankle.  For 3 long minutes, the chosen one was turning into the frozen one and then was luckily saved by Granger’s serendipitous injury. And now, Kevin Durant, who was already at a big disadvantage because Russell West-Brick, who so desperately wants to be DERRICK ROSE SOUTH, is shackling his chances, Kevin Durant is now HANDING the artist formerly known as the Ringless King a DYNASTY on a readymade platter.  Congratulations, Kevin Durant, you’ve willingly turned yourself into LeBrick’s domesticated servant!

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @Skip_Bayless You convey him well. I'll give you that

Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/09/wednesday-bolts-9-12-12/

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

Check out the RTs on https://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA from Robert Littal. This is not the first time Elite players have trained together in the offseason. Yes, even Jordan and Magic did that with their competitors. The difference is social media and media creep in general have made it possible for everyone to know about it.

beelieve035
beelieve035 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas It's just amazing to me that people can honestly insinuate that, because LeBron and KD are friends, that he's not going to give his best every time they go up against each other. KD has always said that when he's on the floor he's going to compete, friend or not. 

anonymous12345
anonymous12345 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

I've been gone a couple months and the first post when I come back is about the one whose name shouldn't be mentioned.  Didn't we make a rule about this?  

YoniFromIsrael
YoniFromIsrael 5pts

 @anonymous12345 There a special peaceful harmony thingy going on with Durant and Lebron and to be quiet honest it makes me sick to my stomach.

kennygee90
kennygee90 5pts

Lebron James beat Durant in the finals, how can he seriously train with this guy..You work all your life to achieve your dream of winning a ring and you get as close as the finals then get beat by your rival then months later you want to train with him..something ain't right with Durant....His a nice and great guy, but if someone celebrates in your face after whooping you in 5 games I'd hate him with a passion..I can't imagine Kobe or Jordan doing it..Hell even magic and bird hated each other till they retired..IMO the problem is Durant assumes that he'll eventually win a ring since his young so the loss of the finals didn't seem that bad..That could been the only time he'll ever be to the finals, cause its not a guarantee that you'll make it again..Being nice is cool but I hope Durant has that coldblooded killer attitude that Kobe got and I can see it in westbrook who i love cause he just don't give a damn..I wonder if something would pop off in a OKC-Heat game if Durant would go off on Lebron..After Kobe retires I hope Durant takes his place as the player that rips peoples hearts out but seems like westbrook is more fit for that role than Durant..

Borgothh
Borgothh 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @kennygee90 Westbrook trains with D-Rose on the offseason. U mad?

Lasers
Lasers 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 4 Like

Not trying to kick a dead horse, but god damn, that CBA was a waste of time. So sad.

GrendelKnight74
GrendelKnight74 5pts

Off this thread's topic but if the decision is that Harden is going to be too expensive, wouldn't it better for the Thunder to trade him before the season? If you wait until the trade deadline it will significantly decrease the market (to playoff contenders) and do you really want to trade him to someone you might be facing in the playoffs in a month and a half? I say trade him immediately (if the dollars dont fit) to a team like Sacramento or Orlando or anywhere that you can get the most value for him. Use the savings to lock up Maynor to an extension. I know alot of fans are ga-ga for the beard (I think he is a very good, but not max player) but I would hope fans would be on board for whats in the long-term best interest of the franchise.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8369074/2012-nba-player-rankings-91-100

 

Quick, quick, tell Royce Nick Collison's Number 100!

YoniFromIsrael
YoniFromIsrael 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

So Dallas and Houston like Harden? But do they have the cash to max him next summer?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @YoniFromIsrael Dallas probably does - they've been doing 1 yr contracts for a while for just such an occasion.

YoniFromIsrael
YoniFromIsrael 5pts

Oh yes they definitely do. Seems as if they been planning it all along LOL... actually not amusing for us at all

YoniFromIsrael
YoniFromIsrael 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas You know he does

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @YoniFromIsrael Yeah, but it's not a problem unless we let him get to RFA. Still there's a difference between a Thunder Max and a matching Max. (See Eric Gordon's deal. It's at the 4% raises instead of the 7.5%). So maybe the Thunder will just match if they can't get a deal done to save some cap space then trade him. We'll have to see what happens. Hopefully Presti's got a few tricks up his sleeve.

Dan Yuschick
Dan Yuschick 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

For me it's this simple; there's no denying how great of a basketball player LeBron James is.  Durant wants to be the best and as fans, we want our guys getting better.  Training alongside LeBron, I feel, gives Durant the best chance of improving and becoming even more well rounded.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe  Did you see the PM's statement on the latest report on the Hillsborough disaster? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-19543964

walkerdog
walkerdog 5pts

Skip Bayless is full of sh-t. If you play sports you want to win regardless of who your playing.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 5 Like

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to disagree with KD in his feud with Skip.  People do NOT assume Skip knows what he's talking about just because he's on ESPN.

YoniFromIsrael
YoniFromIsrael 5pts

Does Marc Stein knows something that we dont?: "In summary: Looks like this October won't be the usual sleepy start to the season that the reigning Western Conference champs enjoy in OKC"

dollarbillrussell
dollarbillrussell 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 8 Like

I would give up a half of what I make in a year (which admittedly isn't all that much because I'm a broke college student) to see KD beat the shit out of Skip.

Jooseppi
Jooseppi 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Some things are meant to be shared:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1356589/trollface.gif

Tequila or Failure
Tequila or Failure 5pts

@Jooseppi It looked like Dempsey was mouthing 'after the game' when this exchange took place. My money's on the Jamacian's in that rumble, they're some pretty ripped dudes & our guys are scrawny as hell - introduce yourselves to the benchpress for gods sake.

Tequila or Failure
Tequila or Failure 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Have zero issue w/KD training w/Lebron unless it leads to KD getting talked into leaving OKC to team w/LBJ in 4-yrs which doesn't seem to be in KD's DNA. No reason to publicly respond to bayless though, only substantiates public perception that bayless is someone whose opinion matters - the tiny little munchkin is so full of himself it turns my stomach.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @Tequila or Failure DING DING DING DING...this is the real reason why Skip is scared of KD playing with Lebron. Lebron CAN talk KD into leaving...or make him feel so comfortable with him that he would. This is possible. 

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I'm not a fan of Skip Bayless, but the gist of what he's saying I agree with. KD is just too damn nice. You don't need the little ESPN ferret to tell you that--because Dr. El Prez has been saying that ad nauseum since the Finals. Put LeBron aside---for crying out loud...KD allowed Mario Chalmers to bully him on our bench. On my TSN rating of Kevin..I have the Offensive KD. The Offensive KD scores a 95%. The other KD who plays the rest of the court in defense and transition...I give a 74% TSN rating.

 

Put LeBron aside and don't pay any attention to the ESPN ferret. But realize this...the truly great ones who win championships have an edge about their alpha competitive demeanor. Magic Johnson had that edge.Michael Jordan had that edge. Larry Bird had that edge. Quit frankly--I don't think LeBron has an edge anywhere close to those three---and KD certainly doesn't. Maybe Bayless is doing this so as KD will quit kissing his mother so much, throw the occasional elbow commanding his space on the floor...and maybe start playing with the same edge Michael, Magic and Larry did.

 

So--if you add the two KD's TSN ratings together--then divide by two...you have KD's TSN rating on my complex system.... 84.5%.

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

KD's not like Magic, Bird, or Jordan.  He's more like Tim Duncan or Kareem...a couple of guys who can also point to multiple championships, but who went about winning them in a much less demonstrative manner.

Sustainable Parameters
Sustainable Parameters 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @El Prez Magic kissed grownass MAN opponents on the face before games and MJ cried on camera after he tricked off the series against the Magic. Maybe he gets some asshole points back by ruining Kwame Brown's confidence by calling him a "F'ing faggott" when he was in Washington, but nobody's infallible.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts

I'm not dissing Kevin. He's great a player when he's shooting the ball. That Kevin got 95%. The other Kevin got 74%.

Thunder S
Thunder S 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @El Prez I'm not dissing Kevin either. He's cool as ice, clutch as anything, but sometimes i wish he had more of Russ' mentality- aggressive scorer and Russ had more of Kevin's mentality - efficiency, poise, making the right play and not necessarily the aggressive play.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @El Prez

Be sure to read the end of our conversation from last night.  I know you're too lazy to find it yourself . . .  http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/09/for-serge-ibaka-place-not-money-was-the-priority/#more-21901

 

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Nice post, TC. I fell asleep and wouldn't have read it otherwise. Tarahuma's --that's it. Bravo is okay, but I avoid that Penn & Memorial if possible. Though..I love PF Changs. Vitos--over on May near Grand is my favorite Italian place. It's a joint. They have a guy who sings Sinatra and Tony Bennett on the weekends. When he sings My Way... I just sing along out loud pretending I'm Michael Corleone.

 

My wife is a saint. I'm pretty certain we'll be married until one of us dies or if she ever reads the comments section of the Daily Thunder. She knows how to handle me...always has.

El Prez
El Prez 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 She's okay. Isn't see bisexual? We've seen Tony Bennett and Kenny G at Riverwind.  I would definitely go see Olivia Newton John on my birthday. We used to go see every group or artist who came through OKC. Not just the rock groups, but the all the great ones who played the OKC Civic Center....Roberta Flack, Dionne Warwick, Jack Jones, Robert Goulet, Johnnie Mathis...and on and on. You haven't lived until you've heard Roberta Flack sing The First Time Ever live in a small venue. Haunting.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @El Prez

You could bring her on the 21st and we'll all share our favorite El Prez stories . . .  :)   Are you an Olivia Newton John fan?  I noticed she's going to be at Riverwind on your birthday.  I could picture you singing along to "Physical."

shiki
shiki 5pts

pleiss got 12+8 in QUALIFICATION of Euro cup 13,but their opponents are weak

C-Wil
C-Wil 5pts

bloody brilliant quote from KD.

Facsimile
Facsimile 5pts

bayless is a dumb cracker.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts

i'm just laughing that skip still tried to knock Lebrons game 6 vs Boston. 

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

The fact that KD and Lebron are friendly off the court just further cements my belief that this is Magic and BIrd for our generation. No one every questioned Larry's competitiveness just because he didn't hate Magic's guts. 

shiki
shiki 5pts

 @Old Man Game Only Bird had several seasons in which he reached 50+FG% ,40+3p% and 90+FT% with 20+ shots.KD was 50+39+86 in these 3 stats with 19.7 shots .

Bird reached it at 28 and KD is only 24

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Earth to Skip, people try talking crap to Lebron all the time and it does nothing. Did you watch the Pacers series in the 2nd round? Danny Granger talked to him non-stop. Its not about talk, it's about performance. Our team didn't finish the job for a variety of reasons, none of them remotely having to do with talking trash. 

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts

RealSkipBayless: Remember @KDTrey5: LeBron now has a ring. You don't. If you want your say on First Take, you're welcome any morning 10-12E. Just say when.

 

Skip be trollin'

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ILikePancakes Nice try Skip. KD isn't going to help you promote yourself by showing up on your show. 

ILikePancakes
ILikePancakes 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

All this to make money. Skip is truly sickening

GrapeNUTZ
GrapeNUTZ 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Kevin Durant is going to play with a chip on his shoulder this year

KellOne
KellOne 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 6 Like

cuban vs bayless:  http://youtu.be/hv2jqFd2-qI  

 

Caution:  You may have a lot more respect for Mark Cuban after watching this!

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

 @KellOne wow, go away WPPJr

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