KD responds to Skip Bayless’s comments

So Kevin Durant’s working out with LeBron again this summer. Naturally, some are going to make a deal out that, because of what took place in the NBA Finals. And by some, I mean Skip Bayless who had some very strong words for KD about it.

“I say once again, Kevin Durant, congratulations you are owned by LeBron James,” Bayless said. “Have fun in next year’s NBA Finals finishing second again.”

Not surprisingly, that test of manhood wasn’t overlooked by KD who responded to Bayless via Twitter:

Of course this isn’t the first time Durant has scuffled with Bayless, as KD defended Russell Westbrook last season from Bayless’s constant criticism of the OKC point man.

Bayless said that part of the reason the Heat won in five games over the Thunder was because OKC couldn’t get in LeBron’s head. He said that because Durant respects his “best bud” LeBron so much he played him differently.

“LeBron James was able to operate knowing that not only would Kevin Durant not talk trash to him, he wouldn’t get physical with him, he wouldn’t incite any fights or pushing matches with him, that he would just let LeBron do what LeBron does best: attack the basket.”

Now, a few things about that mindset: Primarily, KD didn’t actually defend LeBron all that much in the Finals. Because of foul trouble and concerns of foul trouble, the Thunder used Thabo Sefolosha and James Harden mostly on LeBron while Durant defended Shane Battier or Mario Chamlers.

Secondly, one team tried Bayless’s philosophy last postseason with LeBron and it failed spectacularly. The Pacers attempted to rough up LeBron, tried to push him, grab him, talk trash and gesture at him (Lance Stephenson with the choke sign), tried to incite fights (Danny Granger, especially). It didn’t work. LeBron was magical in that series leading the Heat back from a 2-1 deficit despite Chris Bosh and Dwyane Wade battling injuries.

And like Stephen A. Smith wisely pointed out, it’s not like KD wilted on the biggest stage of his NBA career. In the Finals, Durant averaged 30.6 points, 6.0 rebounds and 4.0 assists per game while shooting 54.8 percent from the floor. If anything, playing LeBron brought out the very best in KD, as his game rose to another level.

But what of the argument that Durant shouldn’t be training with his closest competitor and seemingly sworn enemy and rival? Should he really be buddy-buddy with LeBron after losing to him in the Finals just months earlier?

I’d certainly agree that the idea of LeBron and KD working out together is uncomfortable. Because we as fans have this idea that the only friends you’re allowed to have are the ones wearing the same color shirt as you. There’s a life outside the lines though. These guys aren’t programmed robots that swear loyalty to only their team and teammates. There’s no blood oath in basketball. On the floor? Yes, absolutely. Off it though, it’s another world.

Just because you’re friends doesn’t mean you’re going to play with any less heart or desire against the other guy. If anything, when I’m playing one of my friends in something whether it’s ping-pong, fantasy football or golf, I want to beat them more. Because friends don’t let you forget. If KD softened up because LeBron’s his pal, then there’s no way Durant would’ve made it this far. KD’s an incredibly fierce and passionate competitor and a guy that backs down from no one. Durant’s been friends with guys like Ty Lawson, Michael Beasley and others for a long time. And he’s never backed down from them.

Like I said, I can understand a Thunder fan’s trepidation of this. On the surface, it just kind of feels gross. But don’t forget, Russell Westbrook trains with Derrick Rose in the offseason. James Harden works out with other players. KD and LeBron are seen differently because they’re supposed to be the next big NBA rivals. I guarantee you just because KD runs some lines with LeBron or does a shooting drill with him doesn’t make him want to beat his brains out any less. Durant has a one track mind of improvement and wouldn’t be doing anything that stunts that. And if training with LeBron gives him any kind of edge or opportunity to get better, then it only makes sense, right?

KD’s a grown man. He makes his own decisions. He knows himself better than any sportswriter, any analyst, any talking head. He knows what he’s doing. The only player I wouldn’t want him training with is Andray Blatche, because I wouldn’t want KD to actually get worse at basketball.

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El Prez
2012-09-11 21:18:35
I'm not a fan of Skip Bayless, but the gist of what he's saying I agree with. KD is just too damn nice. You don't need the little ESPN ferret to tell you that--because Dr. El Prez has been saying that ad nauseum since the Finals. Put LeBron aside---for crying out loud...KD allowed Mario Chalmers to bully him on our bench. On my TSN rating of Kevin..I have the Offensive KD. The Offensive KD scores a 95%. The other KD who plays the rest of the court in defense and transition...I give a 74% TSN rating.   Put LeBron aside and don't pay any attention to the ESPN ferret. But realize this...the truly great ones who win championships have an edge about their alpha competitive demeanor. Magic Johnson had that edge.Michael Jordan had that edge. Larry Bird had that edge. Quit frankly--I don't think LeBron has an edge anywhere close to those three---and KD certainly doesn't. Maybe Bayless is doing this so as KD will quit kissing his mother so much, throw the occasional elbow commanding his space on the floor...and maybe start playing with the same edge Michael, Magic and Larry did.   So--if you add the two KD's TSN ratings together--then divide by two...you have KD's TSN rating on my complex system.... 84.5%.
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GrapeNUTZ
2012-09-11 16:13:05
I dont like Skip Bayless but I gotta agree with him here. Anybody but Lebron. You lose that competitive edge
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-11 16:14:29
Can't wait to see Skip throw a hissy fit about this. 
duhsweetness
2012-09-11 16:14:40
Jenni Carlson said WHAT?!
cleandoe
2012-09-11 16:15:48
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Now Oklahoma City is my hometown team...   #ifwehadaquarter...
cleandoe
2012-09-11 16:16:13
@dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Now Oklahoma City is my hometown team BUT...   #ifwehadaquarter...  
diddoff
2012-09-11 16:16:30
I haven't seen many NBA players in the videos of  Harden's recent "summer workouts"...
Chim_Allen
2012-09-11 16:18:02
Skip Bayless is a pimple on the ass of sports. Why does anyone actually listen to this guy?
ou_sas
2012-09-11 16:19:28
 @cleandoe  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! We'd be able to afford that Harden extension, no problem?   Let the Skip-hate-money-machine be built!
supreme35
2012-09-11 16:19:36
Lol KD just don't respond. You did exactly what he wanted.
EddieJones
2012-09-11 16:20:19
 @diddoff why is everyone so worried about Harden. He has come back in good shape every season and spent most of his summer with the best players on the planet. I think he will be okay. Let the boy make it rain on his off time.
EddieJones
2012-09-11 16:21:35
 @GrapeNUTZ This makes no sense. How does working out with the only person who's better than you hurt you?
JBrandonMartin
2012-09-11 16:21:58
 @diddoff Um.. No.. Nope.. No players in this video..   http://blogs.thescore.com/tbj/2012/09/11/video-james-harden-making-it-rain-in-the-club/
duhsweetness
2012-09-11 16:22:45
Also, if anyone in the Thunder organization had a serious problem with this, don't you think KD would look elsewhere? I feel like if Russ or Harden or Collison or Scotty B or Presti or Hasheem had an issue with KD training with Lebron, it wouldn't happen. The silent vote of confidence is enough for me.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-09-11 16:26:05
Skip has a point.
cleandoe
2012-09-11 16:26:34
 @MisterJohnsonOKC But not a very good one.
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-11 16:26:45
 @cleandoe  @MisterJohnsonOKC Or one at all...
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-09-11 16:28:30
 @cleandoe I get what Skip is saying, but he took it a little bit too far. KD being friends with Lebron is cool I guess but he needs to have some motivation and not worry about offending his buddy.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-09-11 16:29:31
 @EddieJones  @diddoff Because he's shown that he can get distracted easily. Went out and partied too hard during the finals and it threw his game off big time.
tydude
2012-09-11 16:30:13
i wishESPN can fire SKip 
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-09-11 16:31:27
Casey Walker back at practice so David King can move back to his natural DE position. :))
cleandoe
2012-09-11 16:31:47
 @MisterJohnsonOKC I don't think he does though. KD wants to win and he won't let a friendship get in the way of that. Probably makes him work harder. Skip was just being Skip though
thunderzzzzzzzzz up?
2012-09-11 16:32:10
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @cleandoe if training with lebron makes him any better at basketball or helps him understand lebrons game than im all for it (it does)
f5alcon
2012-09-11 16:33:50
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @cleandoe so training with the best player in the world isn't useful?
novelisticbee0
2012-09-11 16:38:19
I really wish someone would get Skip off of television.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-11 16:38:27
 @diddoff The issues of the human psyche are not so cut and dry as all that. Harden's summer may do him so much good that he comes back better than ever. People respond to things differently, and if a raucous vacation is Harden's muse, then so be it.   Everyone knows Tiger Woods was absolutely dominant while there was an endless supply of nymphos working at the pancake house next door. Take that away from him, and he's just not the same mentally.   If making it rain clears Harden's head, so be it. Let him do it and come back ready to take the next step.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-11 16:40:12
 @novelisticbee0 It won't take someone. It'll take several million someones tuning him out on a daily basis.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-11 16:40:20
For all of you agreeing with skip, don't you have a problem with all 3 of our guys playing on team USA? They've been working out with Lebron, Kobe and Chris Paul all summer...who cares if KD does it a month or so after.   Also check out the video from their workout session last summer...they're not exactly sharing secret shots or anything 
sammasaaron
2012-09-11 16:42:14
 @OBoymuzik Exactly. And you don't have to be best buds to train together. One does not imply the other. And if Durant wants to be friends with one of the few people on Earth that's actually his peer...well, that just sounds downright reasonable.
sammasaaron
2012-09-11 16:44:03
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @EddieJones  @diddoff I think his Finals struggles had more to do with the hard trapping on the perimeter and him trying to split the double every. single. time.
ThunderBelize
2012-09-11 16:53:06
The old adage... keep your friends close and your enemies closer. In this case Lebron is both.   Additionally, if KD and Lebron are touted as the the best in the world 1, 2 then would it not produce another cliche that iron sharpens iron?   Makes for good commentary and story lines, but also makes a ton of basketball sense.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-11 16:53:35
 @sammasaaron  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @EddieJones  @diddoff I think it had to do with Brooks asking Harden to guard LeBron, and then sending help anyway from the perimeter. Harden can't guard LeBron, and Brooks set him up for failure by throwing his focus off.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-11 16:55:06
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @sammasaaron  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @EddieJones  @diddoff That was a huge problem why we lost games and exp why we got blown out game 5...but harden had lost all of his confidence offensively by game 3
tydude
2012-09-11 16:56:27
 @OBoymuzik  @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @sammasaaron  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @EddieJones  @diddoff If Harden could make his shots during the finals i think we would of won the finals and bring home the championship 
OkcBaby
2012-09-11 17:01:13
Lebron did go off on us.  But dang Skip.  Not surprised by anything Baseless says anymore
OkcBaby
2012-09-11 17:03:32
 @EddieJones  @GrapeNUTZ If you played basketball.  Youd know its easier to play a game against friends
f5alcon
2012-09-11 17:04:25
WPP jr, the internet troll who found a camera
seth_22
2012-09-11 17:09:31
I think Skip's larger point is it helps LeBron and his psyche therefore allowing him to not choke.  So therefore LeBron has more to gain than Durant. He has always called LeBron a choker and since LeBron did not choke in these finals he blames Durant for allowing him to be comfortable thus Skip can still be "right."   I don't mind Skip, he is just a gas bag looking to grab attention (which he does well).   I just wish he'd stop claiming he is a Thunder fan.
ThunderBelize
2012-09-11 17:10:04
Any one still remember this? http://youtu.be/6FYMU9421Dg    Was that the beginning of the end? The start of the proverbial wheels falling off?   everything else aside - WE. WILL. GROW.
Thunderman
2012-09-11 17:10:50
Im torn, one side of me thinks that I can't imagine Rocky training with Drago. You are about to go to war with someone for the Title, what motivation is gained by buddying around with them. The only people you train with are those you've beaten. Ala Apollo Creed. Hat tip to Lebron, I guess. He kicked our butts and now our best player, is his bff. Then I think, it isn't like KD is going to stop dropping 30 on opponents (including the Heat) because of he spent time training with Lebron. And Skip Bayless said this and I just cant take his side over KDs. Nope. Won't let it happen. Keep Putting up points, and winning games, winning playoffs, winning conference, and more and you can do anything you want KD!
novelisticbee0
2012-09-11 17:11:17
 @ThunderBelize I refuse to watch any footage from the Finals. SMH Nope, not doing it.
supreme35
2012-09-11 17:12:00
 @seth_22 Yup spot on.
shiki
2012-09-11 17:15:02
maybe in skip's high school time,he trained with someone and that guy stole skip's skill which we all know is similar with Maravich and got starter spot from him.
divisadero
2012-09-11 17:16:07
Among rhetorically questionable ways to begin a sentence, this one ranks high: "And like Stephen A. Smith wisely pointed out . . . ."   SAS only appears wise to the extent that it's his job to generally be loud about the opposite of what ever Bayless is loud about, and Bayless is very frequently loudly wrong. 
MarshallBD
2012-09-11 17:18:53
Skip Bayless is awesome and does a great job at what he gets paid to do... create public discussion and play devil’s advocate.
MarshallBD
2012-09-11 17:19:17
Skip Bayless is awesome and does a great job at what he gets paid to do... create public discussion and play devil’s advocate. ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?
duhsweetness
2012-09-11 17:20:52
 @MarshallBD I don't know if that's the job description for a real journalist. Hackneyed pot-stirrer, sure... but not journalist.
OkcBaby
2012-09-11 17:31:26
 @ThunderBelize Love Westbrooks reaction to the no call on KD.  Wheres the foul MAN!  Fuck!
Bryson
2012-09-11 17:32:38
Bill Simmons has a similar view of 'buddy buddy' attitudes in sports, as do I. I love seeing attitudes and rivalries carried off court, but in this day and age it isn't going to happen. Players are too close...they practically grow up together. They play AAU together, go to college together, text and e-mail...in the 90's, you would never see someone from the Heat and Knicks talking to each other. What really bothers me is that Skip has to tag on the anti-Thunder line and call out KD by saying LeBron 'owns' him. This season I want to see Serge go have a chat with Skip on the sidelines and Dunleavy him. 
supreme35
2012-09-11 17:33:03
 @OkcBaby  @ThunderBelize I don't. It makes me legitimately mad. They both got fouled.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-11 17:34:00
 @Bryson  KD can take care of himself
OkcBaby
2012-09-11 17:36:49
 @supreme35  @ThunderBelize water under the bridge
DennisBerry
2012-09-11 17:55:01
 @diddoff James Harden spends a lot of time in the offseason with Dermarr DeRozan, Brandon Jennings, Ryan Hollins, and some other LA guys playing in the D League and Exhibition games.
Jooseppi
2012-09-11 17:58:35
 @duhsweetness  What makes you think he's a journalist?
OBoymuzik
2012-09-11 18:02:04
Garrett temple from our summer league team is signing with the heat.
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-11 18:08:30
If amnestying Perkins means keeping Harden, is there anyone that says we should keep Perk?
Barry Amenema
2012-09-11 18:11:31
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! "The team could amnesty Perk, but unless some of these newly acquired bigs grow a serious nasty streak, I wouldn't recommend it." --Jenni "The Source" Carlson
Legendary_Dork
2012-09-11 18:13:25
it makes me smile ear to ear to see KD sticking up for himself and calling it like it is. Bayless is the Bill o"riley of espn i swear.   but its ok, keep talking smack to KD, feed him, MAKE HIM STRONGER lol
KellOne
2012-09-11 18:14:36
cuban vs bayless:  http://youtu.be/hv2jqFd2-qI     Caution:  You may have a lot more respect for Mark Cuban after watching this!
GrapeNUTZ
2012-09-11 18:24:30
Kevin Durant is going to play with a chip on his shoulder this year
SoonerSpens
2012-09-11 18:31:55
 @Barry Amenema  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Anyone credible*
ILikePancakes
2012-09-11 18:34:22
RealSkipBayless: Remember @KDTrey5: LeBron now has a ring. You don't. If you want your say on First Take, you're welcome any morning 10-12E. Just say when.   Skip be trollin'
Old Man Game
2012-09-11 18:34:39
Earth to Skip, people try talking crap to Lebron all the time and it does nothing. Did you watch the Pacers series in the 2nd round? Danny Granger talked to him non-stop. Its not about talk, it's about performance. Our team didn't finish the job for a variety of reasons, none of them remotely having to do with talking trash. 
ILikePancakes
2012-09-11 18:34:55
All this to make money. Skip is truly sickening
Old Man Game
2012-09-11 18:35:23
 @ILikePancakes Nice try Skip. KD isn't going to help you promote yourself by showing up on your show. 
Old Man Game
2012-09-11 18:35:49
 @shiki More likely someone stole his lunch money.
Old Man Game
2012-09-11 18:39:43
The fact that KD and Lebron are friendly off the court just further cements my belief that this is Magic and BIrd for our generation. No one every questioned Larry's competitiveness just because he didn't hate Magic's guts. 
OBoymuzik
2012-09-11 19:00:55
i'm just laughing that skip still tried to knock Lebrons game 6 vs Boston. 
Sergio Santos
2012-09-11 19:12:52
 @f5alcon  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @cleandoe Not siding with anybody, but Skip has a point even though it was presented in a terribly flawed way. One thing is respect, but KD is maybe the second best player in the league. His aim should be to become the best and the Thunder's aim should be to become the best.   Saying "so training with the best player in the world isn't useful?" is like saying "oh, so playing well against the best team in the world despite losing isn't good?"Want to improve? Knock on Hakeem's door, add some muscle for the post-up, but before work out with the man, win the ring...then it is different. 
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-11 19:14:27
 @Sergio Santos  @f5alcon  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @cleandoe I don't know what team you watch but I can assure you that KD is aiming to be the best and that the Thunder are aiming to be the best.
Sergio Santos
2012-09-11 19:18:41
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @f5alcon  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @cleandoe That was to counter the argument that training with the best is useful. Hey, you can study his game and improve your own in multiple ways. Being best buddies CAN soften your competitive edge. I am not saying it will, but it can and that is why personally I don't like it.I'd prefer KD to be more D-Rose in that sense. Respect the opponents, but with a sharper competive edge. Just a personal preference I guess, because KD is too gifted and too god like SAS said.
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-11 19:19:46
 @Sergio Santos  @f5alcon  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @cleandoe CP2, I SEE YOU
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-09-11 20:05:06
 @OBoymuzik Team USA is once every 2 years and is a world competition. Not two buddies hanging out.
Facsimile
2012-09-11 20:05:36
bayless is a dumb cracker.
C-Wil
2012-09-11 20:06:12
bloody brilliant quote from KD.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-11 20:14:27
 @MisterJohnsonOKC where in this do you see 2 buddies hanging out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF-6rFzKcBU
shiki
2012-09-11 20:19:44
 @Old Man Game Only Bird had several seasons in which he reached 50+FG% ,40+3p% and 90+FT% with 20+ shots.KD was 50+39+86 in these 3 stats with 19.7 shots . Bird reached it at 28 and KD is only 24
shiki
2012-09-11 20:26:17
pleiss got 12+8 in QUALIFICATION of Euro cup 13,but their opponents are weak
ThunderChick2010
2012-09-11 21:21:38
 @El Prez Be sure to read the end of our conversation from last night.  I know you're too lazy to find it yourself . . .  http://dailythunder.com/2012/09/for-serge-ibaka-place-not-money-was-the-priority/#more-21901  
DennisBerry
2012-09-11 21:28:25
 @El Prez Magic kissed grownass MAN opponents on the face before games and MJ cried on camera after he tricked off the series against the Magic. Maybe he gets some asshole points back by ruining Kwame Brown's confidence by calling him a "F'ing faggott" when he was in Washington, but nobody's infallible.
El Prez
2012-09-11 21:33:26
Nice post, TC. I fell asleep and wouldn't have read it otherwise. Tarahuma's --that's it. Bravo is okay, but I avoid that Penn &amp; Memorial if possible. Though..I love PF Changs. Vitos--over on May near Grand is my favorite Italian place. It's a joint. They have a guy who sings Sinatra and Tony Bennett on the weekends. When he sings My Way... I just sing along out loud pretending I'm Michael Corleone.   My wife is a saint. I'm pretty certain we'll be married until one of us dies or if she ever reads the comments section of the Daily Thunder. She knows how to handle me...always has.
El Prez
2012-09-11 21:36:15
I'm not dissing Kevin. He's great a player when he's shooting the ball. That Kevin got 95%. The other Kevin got 74%.
ThunderChick2010
2012-09-11 21:36:29
 @El Prez You could bring her on the 21st and we'll all share our favorite El Prez stories . . .  :)   Are you an Olivia Newton John fan?  I noticed she's going to be at Riverwind on your birthday.  I could picture you singing along to "Physical."
El Prez
2012-09-11 21:55:15
 @ThunderChick2010 She's okay. Isn't see bisexual? We've seen Tony Bennett and Kenny G at Riverwind.  I would definitely go see Olivia Newton John on my birthday. We used to go see every group or artist who came through OKC. Not just the rock groups, but the all the great ones who played the OKC Civic Center....Roberta Flack, Dionne Warwick, Jack Jones, Robert Goulet, Johnnie Mathis...and on and on. You haven't lived until you've heard Roberta Flack sing The First Time Ever live in a small venue. Haunting.
Tequila or Failure
2012-09-11 22:11:53
Have zero issue w/KD training w/Lebron unless it leads to KD getting talked into leaving OKC to team w/LBJ in 4-yrs which doesn't seem to be in KD's DNA. No reason to publicly respond to bayless though, only substantiates public perception that bayless is someone whose opinion matters - the tiny little munchkin is so full of himself it turns my stomach.
Jooseppi
2012-09-11 23:11:56
Some things are meant to be shared: http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1356589/trollface.gif
dollarbillrussell
2012-09-11 23:22:17
I would give up a half of what I make in a year (which admittedly isn't all that much because I'm a broke college student) to see KD beat the shit out of Skip.
Tequila or Failure
2012-09-11 23:36:54
@Jooseppi It looked like Dempsey was mouthing 'after the game' when this exchange took place. My money's on the Jamacian's in that rumble, they're some pretty ripped dudes &amp; our guys are scrawny as hell - introduce yourselves to the benchpress for gods sake.
Thunder S
2012-09-12 01:30:54
 @El Prez I'm not dissing Kevin either. He's cool as ice, clutch as anything, but sometimes i wish he had more of Russ' mentality- aggressive scorer and Russ had more of Kevin's mentality - efficiency, poise, making the right play and not necessarily the aggressive play.
YoniFromIsrael
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Does Marc Stein knows something that we dont?: "In summary: Looks like this October won't be the usual sleepy start to the season that the reigning Western Conference champs enjoy in OKC"
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2012-09-12 07:51:38
KD's not like Magic, Bird, or Jordan.  He's more like Tim Duncan or Kareem...a couple of guys who can also point to multiple championships, but who went about winning them in a much less demonstrative manner.
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2012-09-12 07:52:35
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to disagree with KD in his feud with Skip.  People do NOT assume Skip knows what he's talking about just because he's on ESPN.
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2012-09-12 08:40:10
 @cleandoe  Did you see the PM's statement on the latest report on the Hillsborough disaster? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-19543964
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2012-09-12 08:59:07
For me it's this simple; there's no denying how great of a basketball player LeBron James is.  Durant wants to be the best and as fans, we want our guys getting better.  Training alongside LeBron, I feel, gives Durant the best chance of improving and becoming even more well rounded.
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So Dallas and Houston like Harden? But do they have the cash to max him next summer?
ou_sas
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2012-09-12 09:18:45
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2012-09-12 09:20:09
Oh yes they definitely do. Seems as if they been planning it all along LOL... actually not amusing for us at all
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2012-09-12 09:21:58
Off this thread's topic but if the decision is that Harden is going to be too expensive, wouldn't it better for the Thunder to trade him before the season? If you wait until the trade deadline it will significantly decrease the market (to playoff contenders) and do you really want to trade him to someone you might be facing in the playoffs in a month and a half? I say trade him immediately (if the dollars dont fit) to a team like Sacramento or Orlando or anywhere that you can get the most value for him. Use the savings to lock up Maynor to an extension. I know alot of fans are ga-ga for the beard (I think he is a very good, but not max player) but I would hope fans would be on board for whats in the long-term best interest of the franchise.
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 @YoniFromIsrael Yeah, but it's not a problem unless we let him get to RFA. Still there's a difference between a Thunder Max and a matching Max. (See Eric Gordon's deal. It's at the 4% raises instead of the 7.5%). So maybe the Thunder will just match if they can't get a deal done to save some cap space then trade him. We'll have to see what happens. Hopefully Presti's got a few tricks up his sleeve.
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2012-09-12 09:27:54
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2012-09-12 09:36:24
Lebron James beat Durant in the finals, how can he seriously train with this guy..You work all your life to achieve your dream of winning a ring and you get as close as the finals then get beat by your rival then months later you want to train with him..something ain't right with Durant....His a nice and great guy, but if someone celebrates in your face after whooping you in 5 games I'd hate him with a passion..I can't imagine Kobe or Jordan doing it..Hell even magic and bird hated each other till they retired..IMO the problem is Durant assumes that he'll eventually win a ring since his young so the loss of the finals didn't seem that bad..That could been the only time he'll ever be to the finals, cause its not a guarantee that you'll make it again..Being nice is cool but I hope Durant has that coldblooded killer attitude that Kobe got and I can see it in westbrook who i love cause he just don't give a damn..I wonder if something would pop off in a OKC-Heat game if Durant would go off on Lebron..After Kobe retires I hope Durant takes his place as the player that rips peoples hearts out but seems like westbrook is more fit for that role than Durant..
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2012-09-12 09:39:17
I've been gone a couple months and the first post when I come back is about the one whose name shouldn't be mentioned.  Didn't we make a rule about this?  
YoniFromIsrael
2012-09-12 09:42:10
 @anonymous12345 There a special peaceful harmony thingy going on with Durant and Lebron and to be quiet honest it makes me sick to my stomach.
ou_sas
2012-09-12 09:52:49
Check out the RTs on https://twitter.com/JonesOnTheNBA from Robert Littal. This is not the first time Elite players have trained together in the offseason. Yes, even Jordan and Magic did that with their competitors. The difference is social media and media creep in general have made it possible for everyone to know about it.
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 @ou_sas It's just amazing to me that people can honestly insinuate that, because LeBron and KD are friends, that he's not going to give his best every time they go up against each other. KD has always said that when he's on the floor he's going to compete, friend or not. 
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2012-09-12 10:05:33
 @Tequila or Failure DING DING DING DING...this is the real reason why Skip is scared of KD playing with Lebron. Lebron CAN talk KD into leaving...or make him feel so comfortable with him that he would. This is possible. 
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2012-09-12 11:21:47
I have a HUGE problem with this, as it concerns my FAVORITE player, Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is once again falling right into Prince James trap. LeBron is a shrewd operator and he knows that you keep your friends close and your enemies closer!  Kevin Durant, LeBron has DUPED you into taking the pressure off of him! I’ve suggested cheap, underhanded, nefarious tactics such as cheap shots and trash talking LeBron. And I grant you that LeBron did perform well in the Indiana series where they tried many of these very same tactics that I am advocating as sure fire but may I remind you that in game 3 of that very same Indiana series, for a 3 minute stretch of the 2nd quarter, LeBron missed 3 consecutive shots and then what happened, you ask?  Granger twisted his ankle.  For 3 long minutes, the chosen one was turning into the frozen one and then was luckily saved by Granger’s serendipitous injury. And now, Kevin Durant, who was already at a big disadvantage because Russell West-Brick, who so desperately wants to be DERRICK ROSE SOUTH, is shackling his chances, Kevin Durant is now HANDING the artist formerly known as the Ringless King a DYNASTY on a readymade platter.  Congratulations, Kevin Durant, you’ve willingly turned yourself into LeBrick’s domesticated servant!
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2012-09-12 11:22:55
I have a HUGE problem with this, as it concerns my FAVORITE player, Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is once again falling right into Prince James trap. LeBron is a shrewd operator and he knows that you keep your friends close and your enemies closer!  Kevin Durant, LeBron has DUPED you into taking the pressure off of him! I’ve suggested cheap, underhanded, nefarious tactics such as cheap shots and trash talking LeBron. And I grant you that LeBron did perform well in the Indiana series where they tried many of these very same tactics that I am advocating as but may I remind you that in game 3 of that very same Indiana series, for a 3 minute stretch of the 2nd quarter, LeBron missed 3 consecutive shots and then what happened, you ask?  Granger twisted his ankle.  For 3 long minutes, the chosen one was turning into the frozen one and then was luckily saved by Granger’s serendipitous injury. And now, Kevin Durant, who was already at a big disadvantage because Russell West-Brick, who so desperately wants to be DERRICK ROSE SOUTH, is shackling his chances, Kevin Durant is now HANDING the artist formerly known as the Ringless King a DYNASTY on a readymade platter.  Congratulations, Kevin Durant, you’ve willingly turned yourself into LeBrick’s domesticated servant!
Borgothh
2012-09-12 11:24:20
 @kennygee90 Westbrook trains with D-Rose on the offseason. U mad?
cleandoe
2012-09-12 12:36:26
 @Skip_Bayless You convey him well. I'll give you that
thunderfan005
2012-09-12 17:52:03
I've quit listening to the dumb ass Jim Traber. And I could give a damn about the fraud, skip bayless. They both say stupid crap to incite sports fans and I'm done with it. I'm sure I've added 8 years to my life by being done with these assholes
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