LeBron wants KD to shoot more for Team USA

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When it comes to scoring, Kevin Durant knows what he’s doing. He’s won three straight scoring titles and not just that, he’s one of the league’s most efficient scorers to go with it. He doesn’t score points based on volume of shots. He scores points based on the quality of them.

When KD puts up a shot, there’s a very good chance it’s going in. He rarely chucks anything out of rhythm, rarely forces the issue. It’s one of the reasons I think it’s such a beautiful marriage between him, Russell Westbrook and James Harden. KD picks his spots, but doesn’t hesitate. Westbrook shoots first, thinks later and Harden is if anything, a little too reluctant. But together, it all fits really well.

But that’s the Thunder dynamic. The Team USA one is a little different. Because figuring out how to fit and score when you’re playing with Kobe, LeBron, Chris Paul and eight other All-Stars is kind of difficult. So it’s understandable if Durant might be a tad passive at times.

Still, LeBron wants KD to shoot more. Let it fly, unleash, pull the trigger. All of that.

“I told KD (Durant) to just be himself,” LeBron told reporters after the win over France. “On a team like this you can kind of shy away because there are so many great players here. But KD’s on this team for a reason. He’s one of the best players the world has and he’s a three-time scoring champ. So we don’t want the KD that defers. We want the KD that he is in Oklahoma City.”

Durant led Team USA with 22 points on 13 shots, which was the most on the team. But like Coach K in 2010 on the World Championship team, LeBron is prodding KD to be himself and feel comfortable taking shots.

Here’s the thing: Sometimes during regular Thunder games, I wish KD would shoot more. With his ability and effortless ability to put the ball in the basket, if he were willing to let loose, scoring 30, 33 or 35 points a game seems completely reasonable. But that’s the beauty of Durant. That restraint to always focus on efficiency, to focus on including teammates, to focus on the five players working together rather than just getting out of his way is what makes him such splendid player.

LeBron’s not the only one either. Kobe was seen talking to KD during the win over France and when asked what he said, Kobe replied, “Shoot the … ball.”

Said KD: “Sometimes coach was screaming at me. And Chris Paul was screaming at me more than anybody, ‘Shoot the ball!’ I guess I’ve got to be aggressive.”

With Durant’s length and size, the shorter 3-point line, his absurd outside touch and the fact there’s absolutely nobody in the world that’s not on Team USA that can come close to guarding him, it makes sense. Durant is Team USA’s most lethal offensive weapon, because the game just sets up so well for him. With LeBron playing distributor and so much other offensive talent distracting opposing defenders so that they can’t solely focus on Durant, KD is going to have his looks.

LeBron, Kobe, Coach K and everyone else is seeing what we all see. KD can get it when he wants it. Scott Brooks notoriously had to urge Durant to shoot more often at times this season and in the playoffs. Because Durant’s first desire is to play team ball, to fit in, to not force, to work together. It’s his instinct, his nature. And it’s a lot of what makes him such a joy to watch. He scores 30 points, takes 22 shots and does it without looking at all self-servant.

Not to go off on a tangent here, but it’s a big reason so much ire is directed at Westbrook and not Durant. It’s the way KD gets his points, the way he attempts shots. There’s a whole other feel to Durant’s game. It’s selfish while being completely selfless. Him shooting a jumper almost feels like he’s serving the greater good of the team.

(Actually, a quick aside on Westbrook: Clearly, unlike Durant, he doesn’t come close feeling comfortable being himself in this setting. Maybe that’s Coach K neutering him a bit, or maybe it’s just Westbrook’s decision to play completely as a slasher off the ball looking only for opportunities in transition while playing hyperintense on-ball defense. But it’s a little jarring to watch Westbrook so passive with the ball in his hands, especially when he’s even open.)

I fully support Durant shooting more. Because as much as I love America and want Team USA to roll, I almost equally love watching KD score. And lucky for me, best of both worlds means if KD’s scoring, the U.S. is rolling.

dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 21:26:21
 @Crownme I'd rather grab a legit big man and then worry about finding a coach for him.
EatSleepThunder
2012-07-30 21:27:55
 @OBoymuzik Lazar makes every open 3 on me when I play 2k... it's pretty terrible
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:28:17
 @dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET! The first nba street was good, 2nd and 3rd were bad...all of them were better than NBA ballets though 
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:28:38
 @dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET! Ballers not ballet
cemitten
2012-07-30 21:29:08
 @OBoymuzik  @dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET! Dirk was the best player in NBA Ballet. Truth.
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 21:29:32
 @OBoymuzik I loved the street legends like "Stretch" and the tall Japanese guy (Takashi?)
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:30:21
 @EatSleepThunder I just started a new association with the updated rosters and the thunder, really pisses me off that Reggie is rated higher than maynor...also Thabo is the most useless video game player ever 
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 21:25:44
 @OBoymuzik Back in the day, I had a faulty Gamecube that every now and then would stop working and say "An error has occurred blah blah." Well, playing NBA Street one time, my brother made a halfcourt shot with Shaq, within seconds, the screen said, "An error has occurred."
cemitten
2012-07-30 21:25:16
 @Old Man Game  @persiansooner13 He doesn't command the same respect in post up situations. 
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:22:38
 @persiansooner13 Interesting question. Why haven't we seen that specific play? We have seen KD score on lob passes from Russ so I don't think he's the problem.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:23:07
 @EatSleepThunder  @Old Man Game Perk Magic Perkins has a better ring to it
Legendary_Dork
2012-07-30 21:22:17
if they keep this up, durant will be molded into a monster..a monster they cant stop,and one that will flow into the regular season...be careful what you wish for bron bron ;)
cemitten
2012-07-30 21:19:38
 @Crow  wasn't intending to be rude.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:16:38
 @EatSleepThunder perk scored on me in nba 2k12 the other day...i thought about going to get a refund but got busy doing other things
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:18:14
 @Crow yeah there were a few guys calling for Durant to get the touches carmelo gets in the playoffs this year
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:15:50
 @Crow  @persiansooner13 Westbrook and Harden have go to plays with other guys..James has that weird connection with nick, and the skip pass to cook (when cook plays) and Westbrook has the kickout to serge for a midrange shot and the kickout to Thabo where he yells at him after 
OkcBaby
2012-07-30 19:51:04
Westbrook, Paul sighting at USA volleyball game
C-Wil
2012-07-30 19:52:50
Then pass him the damn ball. 
OkcBaby
2012-07-30 20:00:56
The international court probably feels smaller.  Like when we were younger
OkcBaby
2012-07-30 20:01:47
The international court probably feels smaller to KD.  Like when we were younger dunkin on lower rims  
supreme35
2012-07-30 20:05:54
Well the selfish fan in me is all for this. I want KD to score 100 points a game. But like C-will said pass him the ball. There are times he is clearly open and other players go into hero mode. Maybe this goes with them wanting him to demand the ball? Who knows.
supreme35
2012-07-30 20:06:29
Well the selfish fan in me is all for this. I want KD to score 100 points a game. But like C-will said pass him the ball. There are times he is clearly open and other players go into hero mode. Maybe this goes with them wanting him to demand for the ball? Who knows.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 20:07:54
Since Westbrook's shot selection was referenced in this article I guess I have to ask one question. If we are able to somehow get a big man that's a scoring threat, then would Presti entertain a trade for a traditional point guard or let Maynor take over? I only ask because our current starting lineup REQUIRES Westbrook to score. He just doesn't have the same scoring punch as Durant. If Russ passed the ball to KD as much as everyone is suggesting, then teams will just load up on KD because we have vitally no other scoring option with our starters. So, if we had a big man that could score, then we'd still have two legitimate offensive options with the PG deciding the best avenue each time down the floor.
supreme35
2012-07-30 20:13:35
 @Jameswade99 What big man would you suggest we get? I feel like a couple of people on here have suggested this and I don't there is a big man out there that we'd be able to get that is worth giving up Russ.
SoCal Thunder
2012-07-30 20:16:27
 @supreme35  @Jameswade99 Byron Mullens.... lol
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 20:17:24
@supreme35 That's exactly my point. There isn't a big man available. So russ has to do what he does which is shoot when KD isn't open. He is doing exactly what the team needs. I cringe any time someone says he shoots too much. I hate it.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:23:37
 @Jameswade99 Russ was the 5th best scorer in the league this year, Kevin Love, Lamarcus Aldridge, Dirk, and Blake were the only "big men" in the top 10...so why would you get rid of the 5th best scorer so that a true PG can set up someone that can't score like Russ
supreme35
2012-07-30 20:25:30
 @Jameswade99  @supreme35 I hate it too. I went on a huge rant about it during the finals. Even after game 1 when they won media was talking about if KD and Russ could co exist throughout their careers and trying to make a problem that didn't exist. Russ KD and the rest of the team knows how Russ plays is perfect for this team and really that's all that matters. The people who say otherwise know nothing about the Thunder.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:27:22
I think there were legitimate times in the finals where KD needed more shots...but he had to get be able to get the ball. The team needs a way to get KD the ball this season when he's being denied by physical defenders. what happened in the finals was both Durant and Westbrooks fault. Durant because he wasn't strong enough or didn't fight hard enough to get free and Westbrook's because he wouldn't risk a turnover by making a tough pass to durant.    But if Durant got the ball every time i wanted him to, you wanted him to, or when he's standing at the 3pt line calling for the ball plays like James Harden's dagger 3 vs the Spurs wouldn't have happened
Crow
2012-07-30 20:27:43
 @supreme35  @Jameswade99 there were 27 guys 6-9+ who average 14+ pts per game. I wouldn't want at least half of them and the ones left probably are not available. the best somewhat feasible to get guys would be bynum or gortat... or scola if they were under the cap (by trading a scrub or two for nothing or trading perk) and had bid over $2mil.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:28:54
 @Crow  @supreme35  @Jameswade99 would you trade Serge for Scola if it assured james getting the contract he wants and having flexibility to sign a FA or 2 in the offseason?
cemitten
2012-07-30 20:30:02
 @OBoymuzik  Yes, I would.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:30:16
 @OBoymuzik  @supreme35  @Jameswade99 no, but i would have tried to be able to bid in the waiver pool. more so for brand.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:33:00
 @Crow  @supreme35  @Jameswade99 Lol I never realized we could have traded a few useless players and bid on those guys..dammit
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 20:33:00
 @Jameswade99 ive thought about this a lot...really PJ3 could step up and be a big that can score, and what that does is give westbrook someone he can pass too when he penetrates, someone that he can trust will catch the ball. So that should cut down on the wild shots. But i feel like a lot of Russ' issues are neutralized when he plays off the ball. I think he would be much better if you remove the "playmaker" burden from him. Originally i was in the "trade him for a real PG" camp, but this past season he proved that he is simply too good at basketball for me to want him out of OKC. He just needs to be used the right way. I think that is off the ball, cutting and curling, causing havoc without the ball
Crow
2012-07-30 20:33:59
 @OBoymuzik  @Jameswade99 Russ was the fifth highest scorer per game but 161st on TS% amongst all players. 115th amongst those who played 20+ minutes per game.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:35:11
 @OBoymuzik  @Jameswade99 so the average team would have almost 4 guys who were more efficient at scoring than Russ. if spread evenly across all teams.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:35:34
 @OBoymuzik  @Jameswade99 so the average team would have almost 4 main rotation guys who were more efficient at scoring than Russ. if spread evenly across all teams.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:37:53
 @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 very limited info on Russ' ability to defend sgs, especially starters. might get picked off a lot, might not fight thru them a lot.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:39:00
 @OBoymuzik  @supreme35  @Jameswade99 yeah, stand pat  might have been ok but there might have been better
Crow
2012-07-30 20:39:26
 @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 Jones could be very important to title wins if he plays well
cemitten
2012-07-30 20:39:30
I'm having a really hard time coming to terms with having Perk on the roster for more years.  Is it a forgone conclusion that we keep him the extent of the contract? Is amnesty really not an option? What's the reasoning?   What do you expect to see from him going forward?
Crow
2012-07-30 20:40:48
 @cemitten more injuries, no more rebounds, gradually worse defense
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 20:41:33
 @Crow  @Jameswade99 well harden would be the playmaker in these instances so he would match up with the SGs on D, kinda like the sixers had snow usually guarding the 2 guards but always brought it up the court. 
cemitten
2012-07-30 20:41:34
 @Crow ouch. I agree, but I was really hoping for more sunshine pumped.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:41:34
 @cemitten Presti will probably eventually trade him but too late and for hardly anything
Bryson
2012-07-30 20:42:04
 @cemitten I expect improvement. He and the coaching staff realize he didn't play his best, and he'll work to improve in the fields he did poorly in. Yes, there is a lot of work to do...but he's a competitor, he'll do it. Plus, there is a bit of an excuse because of his array of injuries he had plaguing him throughout the playoffs. 
Crow
2012-07-30 20:43:02
 @cemitten sorry... KG will call Perk and Perk will start boxing out and jumpin' and he won't dribble ever again!!!
cemitten
2012-07-30 20:43:10
 @Bryson  When do injuries become a theme not just a pattern?  What improvement can you get after >6 years in the league?
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:43:26
 @cemitten I hope he yells at thabeet enough for thabeet to get serviceable...gets worse himself and leaves 
Crow
2012-07-30 20:46:02
 @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 J3 compared to Amare per minute? Will wait for his stats...
Crow
2012-07-30 20:46:45
I fully support Durant shooting more, instead of Westbrook.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:47:25
if they load up on KD, use his intelligence and draw foulshots
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 20:48:00
 @Crow  @Jameswade99 in my fantasies about pj3 becoming our 5th all star i picture a lot of phoenix amare stuff
Crow
2012-07-30 20:48:50
 @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 i think this is a fantasy that could come true.
cemitten
2012-07-30 20:50:06
Ryan Lochte is systematically destroying the dreams of tons of children that believe working harder than everyone else can make up for a lack of sheer god given ability.
Crow
2012-07-30 20:50:07
 @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 i think they need to show a lot of confidence in him. not let him practice for 6-18 months. give him 15+ minutes per game  by month 2.
Crownme
2012-07-30 20:50:27
I fully support KD shooting more, and Russel. Two of the five best in the league we should score. But I got news for Russel - I want to see of that defense he showed against Spain. Cat's out of the bag Russ, time to put out.
cemitten
2012-07-30 20:50:55
in sports*
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 20:51:27
 @cemitten Go flip some more front end loader tires next time Ryan.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:51:29
 @Crownme I want to see the defense he played in the playoffs, but during the regular season too
Crow
2012-07-30 20:51:48
 @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 or 3 if you want to
Crow
2012-07-30 20:53:10
 @Crownme good questions for mo cheeks: on the scale of all-time best pg defenders where does westbrook rate right now? where should he rate?
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:54:02
 @Crow  @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 Chances are that he'll get a chance at some point during the season when serge, perk, or nick miss some games
Crownme
2012-07-30 20:54:07
 @OBoymuzik If you could make that promise in blood and there were no way to max out and keep both.
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 20:54:21
Does it bother anyone that as much as the thunder trio love each other and are brothers off the court, you dont see really any chemistry on the court? In the occasions where they are all in together at the same time, someone who didnt know they were teammates would never in a million years go "hmm you know what i bet those guys play together a lot," you know what I mean? Like there is none of that ESP kind of stuff that you see from guys that play with each other so much. And i remember one specific instance where after the opponents made basket durant was inbounding, and harden and westbrook were in the vicinity to receive the pass, and durant kinda hesitated, looked at both of them a couple times not sure who to pass to, then settled on westbrook. Obviously not a big deal but they just dont look like guys who have played over 250 games together, had 100s of practices together, etc. 
Crow
2012-07-30 20:54:33
KD not shooting enough might cost the Thunder a title at some point
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 20:54:42
NBC just gave away the result in the race with Missy Franklin BEFORE showing it by playing a commercial for tomorrow's Today show in the commercial break immediately preceding it in which they mentioned her "winning her first gold." I've seen incompetence before but that takes the cake.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 20:55:31
 @persiansooner13 I blame Scott Brooks.
Crownme
2012-07-30 20:55:46
I could entertain that
Crow
2012-07-30 20:56:26
 @persiansooner13 yeah do westbrook - durant have a patented joint play? does any combo of the three?
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:56:27
 @persiansooner13 I blame us not going ahead and starting James, even if it would take time to adjust to
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 20:57:03
 @Crow  @persiansooner13 Durant go to is a kick out to Russ for a spot up 3...makes no sense
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 20:57:51
 @OBoymuzik  @Crow  @Jameswade99 lol i was thinking the same thing about gasol 4 years ago when haddadi joined memphis, i dont think hes missed a quarter
Crow
2012-07-30 20:57:56
 @persiansooner13 were all three mainly one on one scorers and can't change that or could a different coach and a different culture have bred something different?
supreme35
2012-07-30 20:58:31
 @persiansooner13 I feel like its James more than anything. Which like OBoy said might have to do with him not starting.
Jooseppi
2012-07-30 20:59:05
 @Crow For the Thunder? Durant's usage is probably where it should be overall. There's an argument to be made about whether he's fighting for the ball enough in certain moments, but that's improved (night and day compared to the 2011 playoffs). Westbrook, Harden and Durant would all benefit from Westbrook and Harden's usage evening out.
Crownme
2012-07-30 20:59:54
Did we sign a "big guy" coach yet? Or are we going to keep pretending?
Crow
2012-07-30 20:59:54
 @cemitten  @Bryson i'll leave the first question alone at the moment. on the second, the main improvements after 6 years would be in turnovers and reduce fouls and defense, if the guy is a thinker.
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 21:00:08
 @Old Man Game haha i swear my last line was going to be "do you blame coaching? I blame coaching" 
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:00:29
 @Crownme Pretending that Mark Bryant's going to do it.
cemitten
2012-07-30 21:00:34
 @Crow  @persiansooner13 Westbrook fastbreak then stop and toss back to KD for a dunk.  
Crow
2012-07-30 21:00:42
 @OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13  @Jameswade99 i hope it doesnt take that but yeah it might go down that way
Crownme
2012-07-30 21:01:50
Yeah. You know , maybe someday. But seriously, as soon as a big guy leave our outfit they get significantly better. Seems like, ymmv.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:01:58
 @persiansooner13 Has to right. These guys trudge along through a barely coherent offensive system, oftentimes succeeding in spite of it. No wonder they don't have a sixth sense for where the other guy is. Lots of times it barely seems like they know where they are supposed to be.
Crow
2012-07-30 21:02:07
 @OBoymuzik  @persiansooner13 yeah drop that one
Crow
2012-07-30 21:02:56
 @cemitten  @persiansooner13 ok, but uncontested or lightly contested fastbreak, a few times a game thing at best
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:03:24
 @Crownme Well I'm in favor of shit canning this entire coaching staff. We but since we aren't getting rid of Brooks we should get some better assistants at least.
EatSleepThunder
2012-07-30 21:03:27
I think the problem with this team isn't that we don't have a scoring big, it's that brooks doesn't have perk post up enough. He could be a real 20-10 threat if brooks gives him the chance
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 21:03:44
 @Crow  @cemitten i think it was tongue in cheek 
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:03:58
 @EatSleepThunder HA. LOL.
cemitten
2012-07-30 21:04:16
 @Crow  @persiansooner13 That was tongue in cheek.  They don't have one.  They connect occasionally on a backdoor cut alley oop.  Used to run KD of the staggered screens for the jumper from the nail (OH Bryan Davis, we love you).  
Crow
2012-07-30 21:04:43
 @Jooseppi yeah i'd focus the increase attempts for the late rounds of the playoffs. maybe for the 4th quarter but really also before the team falls behind or as soon as it does.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:05:01
 @EatSleepThunder Just a few hundred more touches in the post, a few hundred more don't you see it Brooks?
EatSleepThunder
2012-07-30 21:05:48
 @Old Man Game And not only in the post, perk has a nasty midrange j... 
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:05:51
 @Crownme Well I'm in favor of shit canning this entire coaching staff. But since we aren't getting rid of Brooks we should get some better assistants at least.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:06:50
 @EatSleepThunder I'd really like to see Perk's ball handling and passing leading the break also. Looks like a triple double threat to me.
Crow
2012-07-30 21:07:17
 @OBoymuzik yeah you can overdo it like kobes does most all the time. it is a balancing act.
Jooseppi
2012-07-30 21:07:19
 @Crow Not even usage really, role. An increased role for Harden handling the ball when all three on the court won't necessarily mean a huge jump in usage but should result in a more efficient and less predictable offense. Those are the times that are frustrating. Typically it will be a weird stretch where Russ drives and misses a layup, then a Fisher missed jumped, then a Perk post up and suddenly 6-8 points are gone. 
Jooseppi
2012-07-30 21:07:37
@Crow  Not even usage really, role. An increased role for Harden handling the ball when all three on the court won't necessarily mean a huge jump in usage but should result in a more efficient and less predictable offense. Those are the times that are frustrating. Typically it will be a weird stretch where Russ drives and misses a layup, then a Fisher missed jumper, then a Perk post up and suddenly 6-8 points are gone.   
Crow
2012-07-30 21:09:11
 @persiansooner13  @cemitten alright, i can be slow
persiansooner13
2012-07-30 21:11:23
 @Old Man Game true, and also maybe the styles of the players. We see with nick that harden has no problem working off teammates...but that last game you saw lebron spin out of a post up and d-will/cp3 immediately threw an alley oop. Has durant ever done that? Very simple thing that he is more than capable of doing but i dont recall him ever doing that. Is that him or coaching? And is westbrook confident enough in his passing abilities to make that pass? On many occasions when durant was being fronted he was unwilling to throw it over the defender.   
EatSleepThunder
2012-07-30 21:11:38
 @Old Man Game Once he establishes himself, everyone would call him Magic Perkson
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:31:07
 @dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET! I dominated with the Japanese guy 
OBoymuzik
2012-07-30 21:32:04
NBC has some just awful shows coming up
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 21:32:09
 @OBoymuzik And the small white guy who couldn't dunk haha. I loved how some people can jump like 8 feet in the air in that game, but some can dunk.
SergeIblocka
2012-07-30 21:32:59
 @Crownme Every NBA commentator says Mark Bryant was a great big man and is an excellent coach. Maybe the problem is the players not the coach 
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 21:35:05
 @SergeIblocka   @Crownme Cole (cough bust cough), Collison (good) Perk (useful against a handful of players and in spurts) and Ibaka (weird big man). Not much to work with imo
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:38:46
 @OBoymuzik What, the veterinarian version of scrubs doesn't strike you as high brow entertainment?
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 21:39:28
 @Old Man Game  @OBoymuzik If it is anything like Scrubs, I'll watch it. I absolutely love Scrubs
supreme35
2012-07-30 21:40:02
Just read the article posted. Did Lebron really pass on open shot after open shot to give it to Durant?
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 21:50:33
 @dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!  @OBoymuzik Better, scrubs with a monkey.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 22:05:15
I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE tape delay sporting events. I wish the United States could host the Olympics every time just so we could watch each event LIVE!!! It really is like a friend told u the end of the movie u are going to watch later that day. You just feel like if you go to the movie you'll just be wasting your money.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 22:06:26
 @Jameswade99 No but remember in Atlanta in 1996 and Salt Lake in '02 NBC still tape delayed a bunch of stuff. We need some other network to get the olympic broadcast rights. NBC is determined to screw it up.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 22:10:34
@Old Man Game I agree completely. NBC acts as if we don't have the Internet or any other sports outlet won't reveal the results. They can show events on tape delay if they like, but what's the harm in also showing those events live? I don't think they lose viewers or sponsors. They may even pick up a few hundred thousand viewers. What about the people who work evenings and nights. They are just screwed unless they DVR it and then they are watching an event 24 hours later. Boy that sounds like fun.
OkcBaby
2012-07-30 22:14:00
Russ criticism was mostly about 2011 season.  It wasnt that he was shooting to much.  It was how he was going about getting his shots.  It was the timing, the frequency of bad shots.  Last year he improved tremendously.  Putting him at shooting guard in 2011 was one bad because he was a PG for a long time.  And 2 he took alot of ill advised bad shots.  Now that he is better at managing his shots.  It would be a better time to put him in a 2 guard role to switch the game up if the other team is defeating our original game plan.  1 he scores from PG, Ok!  Thabo is on the court.  or 2 he scores from the Shooting guard spot with a PG that can shoot threes and create some.  KD still going to get doubled team
SoCal Thunder
2012-07-30 22:20:07
 @Jameswade99 I watch everything on the NBC website. It's pretty legit and you can do two things at once
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 22:23:31
 @Jameswade99  @Old And to make matters worse, the website has been atrocious. The streaming just doesn't work on my windows computer and it isn't linux compatible so I can't check it on my laptop. Oddly, it works great on my tablet on my phone so I have been able to watch some stuff live on those.  But I totally agree. You show the stuff live and then you do you're primetime replay when they lard it up with fluff pieces about the athletes back stories anyway.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 22:24:00
 @SoCal Thunder  @Jameswade99 It's been horrible for me. I can't understand what the deal is.
Old Man Game
2012-07-30 22:31:40
 @SoCal Thunder  @Jameswade99 I would add, the same computer runs NBA League pass broadband, ESPN 3, Netflix, Hulu and every other streaming video site I've ever tried like a champ but for some reason not NBC's olympics.
shiki
2012-07-30 22:38:38
Kd looks so shy in carrying team USA by his shooting.doesn't he believe he is the 2nd best player in this team?
DennisBerry
2012-07-30 23:01:50
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527030_10150978023073995_1156501717_n.jpg Shoutouts to Westbrook for getting a little handsy "by accident" with the 1st lady. That's my go to move when I hug pretty ladies too
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:20:30
If at all possible could everyone on here tonight please assist me in getting to 318 points. I saw a post by Royce earlier today and he has 317 points. I realize my comments aren't even close in their intellectual content as Royce, but as I see it, I deserve the points. It's been a long day and obtaining a few points would just help me sleep better tonight. So thank u all in advance for the assistance. Have a wonderful night. Go USA and Thunder!!!
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-30 23:21:56
 @Jameswade99 There's 3 more.  :)
DennisBerry
2012-07-30 23:23:11
 @Jameswade99 I have 0
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:23:52
@ThunderChick2010 Ahh. I'm getting very sleepy.
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-30 23:24:33
 @DennisBerry  @Jameswade99 I see 340 for you.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:25:20
@DennisBerry You have zero what?
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-30 23:26:30
 @Jameswade99  @DennisBerry patience?  tolerance?  points?  likes for jameswade99? 
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:27:38
You can call it an early Birthday present. I promise I won't ask for anything ever again. Honest.
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-30 23:28:47
 @Jameswade99 In the spirit of one of the comments made earlier, you might be engaging in shameless Like whoring.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:31:36
@ThunderChick2010 Ok. Now that hurts. Never mind. I'm easy. Just need/want the likes.
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:32:17
317
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 23:32:48
 @Jameswade99  @ThunderChick2010 Gave you four more 
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:32:52
i went back to the last thread where you made a separate comment for each word of "thanks for the likes" and liked all those.
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:34:14
318 done.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:36:22
@cemitten Thanks. It really means a lot. It's the little victories in life that mean the most.
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-30 23:36:44
 @Jameswade99  @ThunderChick2010 Just stay on cemitten's good side.
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:38:54
I got inspired to go old school game thread on the likes.
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:39:44
I've been stuck in the 13000's for tooooooo long.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:40:27
Now that the whole point thing is done I can go to bed. Long day tomorrow. Good night all. See ya tomorrow. At least chat with ya tomorrow.
supreme35
2012-07-30 23:41:24
no one answered me but the answer is no.
Jameswade99
2012-07-30 23:42:25
@ThunderChick2010 I will do my very best. Cemitten appears to be a good person.
dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET!
2012-07-30 23:43:30
 @cemitten I liked your posts because it didn't seem quite fair that everyone else got at least one like.
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:45:36
 @dancassidy35/FreeMonroefromDET! free likes, thats what i'm all about. Like donations are accepted but not needed :)
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-30 23:48:27
 @Jameswade99  @ThunderChick2010 for sure
cemitten
2012-07-30 23:49:05
 @Jameswade99  @ThunderChick2010 Can't believe I missed this comment. That like was given as a sign of agreement ;)
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-07-30 23:51:28
 @EatSleepThunder You got me on that one man, I was expecting some serious insight on our big man issues. LMAO
ElMexiThunder
2012-07-31 00:25:43
Good Night guys im dead right now.@MisterJohnsonOKC and i put in 3 and half hours on the court. Plus i have an interview fof a teacher assistant tomorrow for ESL kids so wish me luck!
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-31 00:29:05
 @ElMexiThunder  @MisterJohnsonOKC I think you'll be perfect for that, ElMexi.  Good luck!!!
jdstorm
2012-07-31 01:54:50
 @Legendary_Dork I don't mind KD passing. scoring whatever. Just as long as he learns how to play proper help defense and to stop sagging off corner shooters
bmuelle21
2012-07-31 02:16:46
so i was just searching around on the okc thunder message board and I found this little nugget:   http://www.thunderfans.com/vforum/showthread.php?6067-Cole-Aldrich-Can-he-become-the-next-Kevin-Love   lmao
Coletrain17
2012-07-31 02:38:49
 @bmuelle21 "Ridiculous topic. Can Byron Mullens become the next Andrew Bogut? Can Daequan Cook become the next Dale Ellis? I suppose anything is possible, if you're under the influence of the right substances"   Best comment on there
FREE_COLE
2012-07-31 02:55:00
 @bmuelle21 man...I had just changed my name back. Why you gotta do this to me? :(
Jooseppi
2012-07-31 03:11:02
 @bmuelle21 Is Thabeet really just Hakeem in disguise? 
shiki
2012-07-31 06:49:25
Ibaka's dunk show is great
Daniel Hawaii
2012-07-31 06:50:16
 @shiki He is CRUSHING poor those poor Aussies. LOL!
okcjim
2012-07-31 06:54:22
KD plays better when he doesn't force the issue as much. There is definitely a happy medium there. He needs to be aggressive but not force things.
ThunderChick2010
2012-07-31 07:11:46
 @FREE_COLE  @bmuelle21  FREE_KEVINLOVEINDISGUISE
Old Man Game
2012-07-31 07:14:00
 @Coletrain17  @bmuelle21 The poster later asked in the autoblog comments, "Kia, will it make people forget about Aston Martin?" 
Stringer Bell
2012-07-31 07:30:51
 @Daniel Hawaii Meh, we bought it back. Shame we let it blow out. We just don't have enough height to deal with Spain, especially without Bogut.   Compared to the top four or five teams, we just don't have the talent. If only Kyrie Irving would of put his hand up :(
tydude
2012-07-31 08:15:57
King County in Seattle votes 6-3 to pass the arena deal now that is the easy party the hard part is for the city council to vote for it.City Council wrote a letter to Mr.Hanson and told him to make big changes to the arena plan before they vote so it could be a while for the city to vote 
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:10:39
When's the game?
ou_sas
2012-07-31 10:11:16
 @OBoymuzik 4:30, according to ESPN.com. :-/
ou_sas
2012-07-31 10:12:06
 @OBoymuzik 5:15 pm, according to ESPN.com. :-/
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:14:30
 @ou_sas Thanks
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-07-31 10:15:19
 @OBoymuzik  @ou_sas 4:15 central
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:15:49
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @ou_sas Double thanks
okcjim
2012-07-31 10:23:26
The more I think about it the more obvious it is to me that we're going to have to amnesty Perk to keep this core group in tact and give Harden and Ibaka even close to what they're worth on the open market.  We aren't going to sign them both for a total of $20 million.  That's just not realistic.    With Perk we really only need him for what Howard, Bynum and maybe the Memphis bigs?  We can go small and probably be a better team against most of the league.  Perkins hurt us more than he helped against Miami and against much of the Spurs series.  If we can get Jones contributing after a year of seasoning losing Perk wouldn't be that big of a deal.  Thabeet, Aldrich, Collison, Ibaka, Jones and KD would get most of the minutes at the 4 and 5.  That's a little scary right now but down the stretch of most games you would most likely be looking at a lineup of Westbrook, Harden, Sef, KD and Ibaka which is  really good. 
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:31:04
 @okcjim Of serge doesn't get better at 1 on 1 D I don't think I want him as our starting center..   Also remember that Perk was pretty damn good on Dirk this year too
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:32:46
 @okcjim If*
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:33:29
RT@LeighEllis Well, it is only 11.30. Still time, bro. RT @squeaky_johnson goodmorning twerps. didnt make it to the gym today!! smh
okcjim
2012-07-31 10:38:29
He wouldn't be the starting center he would be the finishing center.  Perk didn't do much defensively on guys like Dirk that Collison didn't do.  I'd much rather have Serge.  Especially long term.  Plus Perk is hurt every year.
ou_sas
2012-07-31 10:38:53
 @OBoymuzik  @okcjim If Serge is unreasonable and wants a max deal, then I'm for letting him walk. Heck, even Harden's not worth max in my eyes, but I think he'll take less to stick around - if I recall from his exit interviews, he intimated as much.   That said, I'm not happy with Perk's level of performance at his salary for a starting center, either.
ou_sas
2012-07-31 10:40:10
 @OBoymuzik  @LeighEllis  @squeaky_johnson lol, I read that in Leigh's Aussie accent too.    Man, I miss tweet of the week already.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:42:36
 @ou_sas  @okcjim Yeah I'm not happy with perks contract, but there are things that he does better than serge and serge still has his own issues to fix...why amnesty a guy that doesn't do what you want to sign another guy that doesn't do what you want for 2-5 million more per year 
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-07-31 10:44:14
http://dailythunder.com/2012/07/tuesday-bolts-7-31-12/
ou_sas
2012-07-31 10:44:36
 @OBoymuzik  @okcjim Especially if we're going to let Jones develop to his skillset rather than try and shoe-horn him into a role that doesn't fit.
okcjim
2012-07-31 10:49:45
I don't think he's going to ask for a max but there is a big difference between a max offer and 9-10 mill a year that a lot of people are hoping he'll sign for.  I'm guessing 11-12 is more realistic.
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:49:56
 @okcjim Collison just fouls Dirk a lot...perk was better than serge and nick on him
OBoymuzik
2012-07-31 10:57:55
 @okcjim Javales contract game me hope, hibberts, asiks, Jordan's didn't 
ou_sas
2012-07-31 11:08:20
 @okcjim The problem is that someone might throw a max contract offer out just to try and woo him away. That's what I'm worried about.
Skyline
2012-07-31 11:08:51
 @OBoymuzik  @okcjim How many teams in the NBA are happy with the production from their starting centers?.... One of the reasons the Heat won the title without having one, while the Thunder continued to play with one.   The Celtics also really got things going this season once they moved KG to the center position and started playing small.   Everyone always talks about how well the Thunder look when they go small but in the biggest games of their life (NBA Finals) they chose to give Perk his minutes.
Crow
2012-07-31 12:13:38
 @Skyline 
Crow
2012-07-31 12:14:53
 @Skyline  @OBoymuzik  @okcjim Only 3 of the top 10 teams on offensive efficiency use a starting center who is listed as listed as weighing over 250 pounds. 5 of the top 10 on defense do.
OUisthebest
2012-08-01 00:27:49
What would happen if Lebron James and Kevin Durant played each other in the NBA finals. That would be so exciting
BarbaraAnnGeorge
2012-08-04 14:09:47
Kevin is doing fine.  Everyone has off nights; including James.