OKC trying to get into the top five for Alex Len?

Per Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports:

One of the primary targets of Oklahoma City’s pursuit of a Top 5 pick on Thursday, sources tell Y! Sports: Maryland 7-footer Alex Len.

Len is projected to go as high as No. 1 overall, with a few mocks have him falling as low as No. 7. For the most part the consensus is he won’t slip past the Bobcats at No. 4.

Reports have recently surfaced that the Thunder have attempted to move as high as No. 1 overall as well as a package to get into the top five. An idea of who they were targeting was unclear with Nerlens Noel, Victor Oladipo, Ben McLemore and Len all being apparent candidates.

But it appears the target is Len. A more traditional big that scores on the block but needs to develop.

ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:16:08
thunder_from_down_under   My family and I didn't discuss my first child this much . . .   ;)
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:17:15
Old Man Game It's just something to say to fake actual analysis.
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 21:17:53
S4TISF4CTION KD4theWin Sustainable Parameters TrueChamp heard of this guy ? he is from oklahoma http://i.imgur.com/Lbu5af7.jpg
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:16:24
Man this Dan Dakich guy was hating on Adams there ESPNU viewers. "I don't think he asks enough questions." Is that code for, he didn't show me enough deference?
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:16:19
TrueChamp ??????
S4TISF4CTION
2013-06-26 21:15:25
KD4theWin Sustainable Parameters TrueChamp No.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 21:15:44
wow
KidCanada13
2013-06-26 17:43:57
TrueChamp Mayberry
cfountain
2013-06-26 17:43:39
tomorrow night cant come soon enough. no matter how this goes, I want it over...with Perk off the roster.
NicKadau
2013-06-26 17:37:44
Can you guys imagine if Oladipo and McLemore fused together? Oh, my...
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:43:31
I actually wouldn't mind trading out of the draft for 2 picks next year.  Not taking on any salary and then have a solid year of evaluating Lamb and PJIII.  They can always combine those picks next year to try to move up.  This team will be favorites to win the West regardless
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 17:43:10
A OKC writer said he got a very good feeling the Thunder comes away with one of five players tomorrow: Len, Oladipo, Adams, Zeller or McCollum.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:46:17
KidCanada13 TrueChamp I have a very good feeling that the roster looks different than today
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:45:28
Sustainable Parameters lol, he isn't a fan of any team
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:38:28
[coke head] f5alcon lamb+12 is worth more than the 4th, lamb would be top 5 in this draft. as much as I don't like perk, thabeet starting scares me.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:44:49
[coke head] f5alcon Yeah if there was some sure fire talent in the draft that we could get I would do it, but it is some mix of surefire average players or high potential high bust chance. If this was next years class I would do it. Nobody in this draft wows me.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 17:44:44
OLADIPO Franklin yes, not sure about Len. Big guy with a foot issue this early is a little worrying.
KidCanada13
2013-06-26 17:44:39
TrueChamphttps://twitter.com/DarnellMayberryhttps://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry/status/350019660105777154 Gut feeling says Thunder comes away with one of five players tomorrow: Alex Len, Victor Oladipo, Steven Adams, Cody Zeller or C.J. McCollum. 6th man he said MCW
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:44:31
KidCanada13 TrueChamp well he is a Wizards fan so his opinion doesn't count
KidCanada13
2013-06-26 17:41:39
I would be pretty pleased with either Zeller or Mccollum at 12, Bullock at 29, or Franklin. If we get in to the top 5, Noel or Oladipo
RRRWHOAAAA
2013-06-26 17:42:26
I. Want. LEN
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:41:16
Jax Raging Bile Duct Jax, your better than that.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:39:40
[coke head] f5alcon Unfortunately, it's time to stop evaluating future trades in terms of "that would be Harden for ___." We're not going to get equal value for Harden. Just got to move on.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:40:58
[coke head] f5alcon Yes top 5 picks are, but the players in this draft are not that good, the player we get at the 4 is not going to be dramatically better than what lamb produces if he ever plays+ what the 12th pick produces
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:40:33
NicKadau OLADIPO Jooseppi Don't worry.  He/they would still be better than Perk
NicKadau
2013-06-26 17:39:57
OLADIPO Jooseppi NicKadau I suppose that did sound really odd.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:39:22
Jooseppi NicKadau That would produce some Olynyk-like T-Rex arms.  Doubtful Presti goes for a guy like that.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 17:38:14
NicKadau Like a human centipede?
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:38:09
NicKadau i don't imagine either would survive the surgery
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:34:40
It's weird thinking that in 2014-15, Perk will actually be a valuable trade asset.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:35:09
OLADIPO I would like to end up with serge and thabo's women tomorrow night
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-26 17:35:56
lmp5336 He's valuable now if a team realizes he will be the starting center on a team that gets wiggins or that other guy
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:36:51
f5alcon OLADIPO You just hurt Vanity's feelings.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 17:34:12
That would be amazing.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:33:23
OBoy ChrisMannixSI Man if they move out of the draft, I want all those hours I spent on DX back
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:33:49
I would like very much to end up with Len and Franklin tomorrow night.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:31:56
d21 Maybe MJ wants Perk on the squad so he has someone to humiliate in one-on-one games.
OBoy
2013-06-26 17:32:03
RT ChrisMannixSIOklahoma City continues to be aggressive. Trying to move up, down and/or out of draft. Asking for two future No. 1's to move out of No. 12.
cfountain
2013-06-26 17:31:33
d21 KD4theWin PNT lol! its funny because its true!!!!
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 17:31:57
Proud of you Sam. This is good thinking. If you can pull this off you're a miracle worker.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:31:46
[coke head] f5alcon I agree but harden for the 4th pick in a weak draft? is what that becomes.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:31:10
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling lmp5336 No team would trade away a valuable rotation player for a 25 percent chance at the top pick. They could just bench guys later if they really wanted to tank.
Bryson
2013-06-26 17:30:03
d21 DAMMIT!
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:29:53
lmp5336 [coke head] gordon is a great 3 point shooter, 38% last year 40% career so he fits our spot up shooter need
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:29:29
PNT Yeah, there's a salary floor so taking on salary isn't a big deal for some teams.  And some teams want to lose going into next year's draft.  So if a bad team takes on Perk, they accomplish a few things.  1. They have to play someone at center and have to spend X dollars.  2. They will suck, which improves their lottery chances.  3. Perk is an expiring deal next year, so there's some value in that. Perkins is awful, but there are trade scenarios where he has positive value.
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 17:29:04
PNT poenix or bobcats..they could use to tank really bad to get wiggins..  its a good strategy...nobody will think perk is underperforming if you know what I mean lol
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 17:28:41
@Cokehead: Then definitely not.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:28:40
[coke head] I wouldn't give up lamb in that, they want to dump gordon who is only a rental anyway, i would rather give them an extra future 1st and rights to pleiss, lat will.
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:25:29
It's still weird to see "New Orleans Pelicans."
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 21:23:49
According to one league source, several other suitors will make pitches for Smith and Copeland. Smith has received early interest from the Detroit Pistons and Phoenix Suns, and Copeland's list includes the Dallas Mavericks, Indiana Pacers, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Oklahoma City Thunder, Toronto Raptors, Utah Jazz and Washington Wizards.  http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/46096/sources-bucks-want-smith-and-copeland
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:24:38
Jax Raging Bile Duct SHBAZZED *by yourself cause you know...you posted it like..20 times*  :P
AIaska
2013-06-26 21:23:47
I coul go for a 48oz steak right about now
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:23:13
Jax Raging Bile Duct ThunderChick2010   It's not spamming . . . more like strategically re-posting to maximize its visibility. Kinda like a public service . . .   ;)
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:23:21
Jax Raging Bile Duct I know there can't make all the people happy all the time but where was Dieng? Where was Franklin? Why was Bullock in there at 12?
MJOKC
2013-06-26 21:22:56
Terrible navigation system.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:21:35
ThunderChick2010 Thanks to everyone else for putting up with my spamming!
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:21:50
ThunderChick2010 Legendary_Dork TrueChamp  ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:21:08
Jax Raging Bile Duct   Thanks for doing this Jax . . .  :)
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:21:31
Legendary_Dork TrueChamp   !!!!!!
S4TISF4CTION
2013-06-26 21:19:41
KD4theWin S4TISF4CTION Sustainable Parameters TrueChamp No.
FallenOSIRIS
2013-06-26 21:19:57
Also, that is a massive steak.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:20:10
Ok. Last time tonight, I promise. Fill out my draft survey. Results tomorrow after lunch. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/T8RZKJT
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:15:07
FallenOSIRIS yeah ...i feel like...i KNOW this team..hmmmmmm *ponders*
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:52:46
long arm of the law Sustainable Parameters she plays on the women's team. I think her friends or family, are just really short and that makes it look even more crazy by comparison
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:52:07
Sustainable Parameters OLADIPO f5alcon My opinion is better left unsaid
RRRWHOAAAA
2013-06-26 17:52:19
OLADIPO long arm of the law Sustainable Parameters hahahaha
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 15:59:57
TRIANGLE OFFENSE.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:00:02
Next Cole Aldrich
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 16:00:24
Noooooooooooooo......Get Oladipo
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:00:45
stress fracture is a worry
Perk has a lot of value to our team
2013-06-26 16:01:29
[coke head]Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO While it's no secret OKC is trying to move into the top 5 of draft, Thunder making it clear Serge Ibaka is not available.
DXL
2013-06-26 16:01:53
Of course Presti's trying to get Len. Noel's a power forward and Serge has that position on lock for the next decade.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:02:42
Perk has a lot of value to our team [coke head] phew
duhsweetness
2013-06-26 16:03:12
OBoy I'm not sure I could emotionally handle trading Ibaka a year after trading Harden. I would quite possibly just collapse.
Grolgar
2013-06-26 16:03:26
Len is a bust. I promise. Get Bennett, Zeller, or a guard like McCollum if we're moving up.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:03:45
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1053402_10151617195083463_1380965081_o.jpg Look at that big goof off! Would you let him date your daughter! #notoAdams
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:03:50
kwame brown is a top 5 pick.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:04:04
I don't think there is a reasonable trade to move up that much
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 16:04:17
What will Oklahoma City do? Chatter about the Thunder packaging their two first-round picks (No. 12 and No. 28) has quieted in recent weeks, but I still expect Oklahoma City to look to deal, either on draft night or in the weeks that follow. The Thunder love to stockpile young talent but at this point, how much more does they need? Jeremy Lamb is poised to join the rotation next season -- perhaps replacing Kevin Martin -- and Perry Jones could be right behind him. What the Thunder need is a veteran low-post presence, someone to take the pressure off of Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook on the perimeter. The Thunder have eyed LaMarcus Aldridge in the past, though it's unclear how willing Portland is to trade him. There is some talk that Oklahoma City is looking at Steven Adams, the raw 7-footer from Pittsburgh who won't be anywhere near NBA-ready next season. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba-draft/news/20130626/nba-draft-2013-burning-questions/#ixzz2XMI6HMEe
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-26 16:04:18
He's holding Durant, the best scorer in the world, back. Just imagine what KD could do without Westbrick hogging all his shots. I should know, I'm from Oklahoma City.
duhsweetness
2013-06-26 16:04:28
Sustainable Parameters Adams has a gigantic head. MCW has a peanut head.
Brob785
2013-06-26 16:04:46
this is probably just a smoke screen unless they can unload Perk as well
Perk has a lot of value to our team
2013-06-26 16:04:48
Stress fracture, bad history with big men and high bust potential have to be concerns. On the other hand... http://t.co/P0Ata6qCPD
DXL
2013-06-26 16:04:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBfXSZyUzg0 If Len goes ahead of Noel this head to head matchup is why. Len towers over Noel and pushes him around.
Grolgar
2013-06-26 16:04:59
No Adams either.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:05:03
Perk has a lot of value to our team DELETE THIS
duhsweetness
2013-06-26 16:05:18
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop I've been petitioning for him all season.
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-26 16:05:35
In Presti we trust
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:05:46
DXL Noel is quicker and has a higher motor. I believe he jumps higher too.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:05:49
maybe they'll take it better when you post. Much of DT seemed to completely disregard their head to head matchup
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:05:51
i can so envision this: MJ: We value Kendrick a lot. Stats don't show it, but his screens are second to none. Very worth the 4th pick,
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:06:08
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1049289_10151617170303463_1271445741_o.jpg Hello ladies
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-26 16:06:55
We clearly don't make this deal unless we know Len is available at the pick. What are the chances that we already have a deal in place with a team like the Bobcats or Suns should he fall to that point?
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:07:01
DXL Royce White dominated Anthony Davis last year
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-26 16:07:02
[coke head]I think that's because GM's truly are treating this like it's a very weak draft, so the traditional rules are being skewed a bit. Lamb does seem to have some value, unlike PJIII, and we can offer a slew of draft picks. Usually, I'd agree with you, but I think this year, the rules are a little different.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:07:05
ThunderUp12 if we could add LMA without giving up ibaka, westbrook or durant, then presti will have acheieved god status.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:07:05
Jordan? Nope, Jordan keeps it 100. He'd probably cuss Kendrick out in practice every day for being so terrible
DXL
2013-06-26 16:07:34
d21 DXL Noel's a better player, but he's a power forward. He had a far better year. Len's a full-size center, who can play little, and certainly kicked butt in this game.
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:07:35
OBoy DXL Royce White dominated everyone. I still want him. #IowaStateBias
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-26 16:07:40
Or punch him in the face like he did Steve Kerr
Perk has a lot of value to our team
2013-06-26 16:07:57
Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI Hearing stronger indications that Cleveland likes Maryland's Alex Len with the No. 1 pick. 26 hours...
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:08:24
Last one, but in what world is this dude fat? People have been talking about him like he is Michael Sweetney or something https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1049107_10151617170558463_1241680126_o.jpg
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:08:27
having no consensus #1 pick is fun.
ThunderWins
2013-06-26 16:08:32
I say trade up to draft Hasheem Thabeet - with that size he's got to be good right?
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:08:46
If we can get a team to take Perk i don't care about anything else.
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:08:50
Sustainable Parameters Sean May 2.0
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:09:19
*creates fake link to perkins trade*
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 16:09:23
If we end up with Oladipo or Len, I'll be ecstatic.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:09:26
Len is pretty much worse case as far as fun Ukrainian names go. It just makes me think about overly affectionate Canadian siblings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1fzJ_AYajA
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:09:27
Noel will bring elite help defense to the NBA from day 1. Len will bring elite nothing. Please please please no.
DXL
2013-06-26 16:09:32
Bryson DXL Noel's definitely a better player. I'm just noting that this game is the reason if Len happens to be taken #1. He made Noel look small.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:09:48
But he sucks ass in that 11 to 12 range
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:10:26
you going to volunteer to drive him to road games?
lmp5336
2013-06-26 16:10:28
Sustainable Parameters I still kind of think Aldrich never got a fair shake here. I always thought he looked okay, and he was certainly a significantly better rebounder than Perk.
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 16:10:35
OLADIPO Depends on what we have to give up to get them.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:11:00
Bryson OBoy DXL with as many kids as he has he might have dominated a lot of women
NicKadau
2013-06-26 16:11:01
What do you guys think about taking Sergey Karasev at 12 and someone like Jeff Withey at 29 or 32?
mattchant
2013-06-26 16:11:08
[coke head] Also loved Beal last year, who looks like a young stud.
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:11:10
playing in the goodman league, but still NOT NICE. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m2r5Gm_WpS8
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:11:44
NicKadau Other teams want him that are drafting below us, so taking him and holding him ransom for something good could be fun
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:12:12
NicKadau I like Karasev if we stay at 12.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:12:27
lmp5336 Sustainable Parameters some of the people are on here are better rebounders than perk
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 16:12:42
NicKadau if we don't draft a center at 12, then probably muscala at 32
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-26 16:13:17
But also super solid in the 20s
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:13:19
Sustainable Parameters If the organization wants to pay for gas, I'd be down.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:13:25
His anxiety doesn't allow him to wear condoms
BrightFuture aka Presti do your magic
2013-06-26 16:14:25
if Presti want white center,lets trade for Jonas Valanciunas!!!
ThunderWins
2013-06-26 16:14:38
BrightFuture aka Presti do your magic fat chance that will happen
mattchant
2013-06-26 16:14:41
f5alcon ThunderUp12 I'd give up Ibaka for LMA.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 16:14:46
NicKadau Karasev at 12 sounds good. I'd go with Muscala and a shooter with 29/32.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:14:54
BrightFuture aka Presti do your magic Already tried.
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:15:23
Jooseppi Kelly Olynyk looks like his method of murder would be bashing someone with a rock. #Caveman
ThunderWins
2013-06-26 16:15:25
How far can Noel fall?
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:15:34
ThunderWins #3
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:15:36
ThunderWins 1.
Perk has a lot of value to our team
2013-06-26 16:15:38
ThunderWins 4
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:15:40
ThunderWins 2
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:16:00
DT covering its bases
ThunderWins
2013-06-26 16:16:07
OBoy ThunderWins Royal shame - would have loved to have him and Ibaka front court
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:16:13
[coke head] This is at least 3 levels of sarcasm, possibly more.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:16:19
[coke head] I'm positive he did
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:16:22
Bryson Sustainable Parameters Royce White has kids?
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:16:38
5 baby mammas
grindstone
2013-06-26 16:17:10
OKC_Longhorn this x1000....going to be the best player in this draft, he can take Thabo's spot and Lamb can can play sixth man/swing SF/SG.
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:17:33
Jooseppi [coke head] If the season ended a week and a half earlier we'd have been at #7.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:17:54
dollarbillrussell minus bj
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:18:21
mattchant its close, LMA is a better rebounder and passer, but not as good of a shot blocker, his scoring is higher but worse percentages. Is 4 years older, and more expensive
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:18:25
I expect Orlando to trade #2 if Noel is not there and Charlotte to trade back if Porter isn't there at #4.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:18:37
nice! I need to get on that level
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:18:39
Sustainable Parameters no clue who that is
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:19:00
Sustainable Parameters cufflinks. bold
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:19:10
OBoy why does orlando want noel they have vucevic
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:19:19
Anthony Bennett. Washington is probably going to take him
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:20:22
f5alcon OBoy Noel is a pwere forward not a center.
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:20:34
f5alcon OBoy power.
C-Wil
2013-06-26 16:21:00
Git r dun Presti.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:53:19
f5alcon Sustainable Parameters OLADIPO why? The DT females only get offended when I talk like that, when everyone else does it it's all Gucci
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:21:12
Sustainable Parameters How is your quest to surpass Wilt's woman count going?
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:21:23
OBoy Orlando really needs a PG don't they? Aren't they still rolling out jameer nelson?
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:21:36
f5alcon OBoy Because he's far and away the best prospect in the draft if healthy.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:21:49
Man, I'm just excited to see what crazy trade Presti cooks up this time. Definitely not any of the trades that have leaked thus far.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 16:22:01
long arm of the law OBoy Orlando needs everything, maybe they have their center in Vucevic.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:22:03
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling no trade
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:22:06
we will all be disappointed tomorrow...if you're expecting trades.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:22:18
long arm of the law OBoy they might be trading for Bledsoe.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:22:22
ThunderUp12 long arm of the law OBoy They have a ton of young athletes they could be good
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:22:29
ThunderUp12 long arm of the law OBoy *Eventually
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:23:06
OBoy long arm of the law if bledsoe somehow becomes worth a #2 pick i'm going to lose my damn mind.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:23:37
long arm of the law OBoy Hey, we got 12 for Harden. Close enough.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:23:37
Jooseppi f5alcon OBoy They still have good options at the 2 to not move back though SG/SF
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:23:41
long arm of the law OBoy Nah they're trading Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:23:42
cfountain For perhaps the first time, I strongly disagree.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:23:43
cfountain no one in their right minds will give up future picks this year.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:24:32
Jooseppi long arm of the law OBoy 12 for harden is not as frustrating as bledsoe for a second overall. Dude is an athletic hype machine that got thoroughly exposed when cp3 went down last year.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:24:50
cfountain Bad teams are willing to sacrifice a year in order to get Wiggins. Perfect opportunity for a smart GM to get better NOW.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:24:54
Not so great. I think I am just going to take his "killed a bobcat with his bare hands" challenge instead.
Aren't
2013-06-26 16:25:19
cfountain Expecting Presti to trade = no trade. Expecting Presti to stand pat = trade.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:25:37
Aren't cfountain What if I'm not sure?
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:25:58
d21 DXL Noel's first ever NCAA game.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:25:59
I can't even explain how much I hope wiggins is just a solid college basketball player and not the second coming of basketballjesus
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:26:10
http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/6/26/4468062/mcgraw-blazers-f-lamarcus-aldridge-wants-to-escape-blazers-and-play
Aren't
2013-06-26 16:26:18
Jooseppi Aren't cfountain .......Presti explodes.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:26:31
Jooseppi Aren't cfountain re listen to darkside of the moon
Turfright
2013-06-26 16:26:32
I could see us trading for pick 2-5, hoping for Olidipo, Len or Noel, then just taking McCollum if none are available and feeling good about ourselves afterwards.
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 16:26:50
Trade Perk, both first rounders, and maybe a future first rounder, to move into top 5....Draft Oladipo, then start Collison :)
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:27:59
OKC_Longhorn thats a ton to give up for a backup 2 guard that in all liklihood doesn't amount to half of what Harden was. Starting Nick isn't a great idea either.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:28:38
OKC_Longhorn I'm giving Oladipo a probable outcome of Sef.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 16:28:43
Larry Bird returning to Pacers front office
Turfright
2013-06-26 16:28:45
long arm of the law OKC_Longhorn If we lose Perk and start Nick, we have Hash as the only big backup and possibly Orton if we resign him.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:29:15
To be fair I also started the start Orton backed by Thabeet bandwagon.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:29:29
So I'm almost on board with this :)
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 16:29:40
Super spamming repost alert... It's that time again! Time for a Jax Survey. This one is going to rank DT's collective draft board, given that some players have been drafted already and we have to select from the rest. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/T8RZKJT The way I decided who would be drafted in the top 11 for this question is as follows:I took the mock drafts from 6 draft sites (ESPN, Draft Express, SI, nbadraft.net, Fox Sports and SBNation)I gave each player points for being drafted, with more points for being drafted highThe 11 players with the most points were drafted in the order of highest point total to the lowest. Let's see who we all want after all the good players have  been taken already! Yay!
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:30:05
Jax Raging Bile Duct flagged
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:30:16
Jax Raging Bile Duct How long before we get results?
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:30:18
long arm of the law im still #TeamStartBigO
Turfright
2013-06-26 16:30:22
long arm of the law Jax Raging Bile Duct unflagged your flag.
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 16:30:29
Oladipo is miles better than Sef...He won't miss dunks
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:30:50
OKC_Longhorn .........................................
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:31:51
Sef was better on dunks this year. He still can't catch an alleyoop which is weird, also weird how much Ibaka sucks at them, but he finished a few breaks strong this yr
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 16:32:06
Correction, he has the potential to be miles better...
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:32:19
OKC_Longhorn Oladipo will probably never pick the pocket of a top 10 player then reverse dunk it on said top 10 player in a road finals game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5gS342NniY
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:32:29
Sustainable Parameters Ibaka first instinct is to block it. Dat BBIQ.
Turfright
2013-06-26 16:32:31
Would you do LMA and their unprotected Charlotte (Freaking Charlotte unprotected!) pick for Serge Ibaka?
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 16:32:36
He's not gonna marry anybody as hot as Sef's wife though, beleedat
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:32:46
Prediction of the day: by tomorrow neither Lamb, nor Perkins will be on our team.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:32:49
Turfright Duh.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:32:51
long arm of the law OKC_Longhorn They're completely different. Not saying Oladipo will be better but they won't be similar players.
Aren't
2013-06-26 16:32:58
Regardless of what happens, just be glad that I'm not the GM.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:33:57
Turfright (It's not Portland's pick though), it's the Bulls'.
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:34:01
Turfright hell yeah
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 16:34:09
Turfright They have an unprotected Charlotte pick?
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:34:12
How so? My impression all along has been that he'd be similar to Sef. What do you expect him to be like?
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 16:34:16
Jooseppi Turfright beat me to it.
Turfright
2013-06-26 16:34:41
Jooseppi Turfright Oh, makes sense. Is there anything in this league more valuable than an unprotected Charlotte pick?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 16:34:55
okcjim Last time about 70+ people took that survey. So far we're at 46. But I figure I should at least give other commenters who can't log on during daytime hours a chance to fill out their opinion. So I'll probably unveil the results after lunch tomorrow. Give people 24 hours to fill it out and all.  That seems fair to me anyway.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:35:06
Turfright Jooseppi As far as picks go? No.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:35:15
Turfright Jooseppi Yeah. Unprotected Cleveland pick. How many number 1's are they going to get?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 16:35:17
No draft/trade opinions or proposals . . . just saying Good Afternoon.  :)
GermanWigEnds
2013-06-26 16:35:30
https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/349940702932770816 Stein says Houston shopping Thomas Robinson for mid-1st round picks to free up cap space. I think TRob could be really, really good with Ibaka moved over to center as others have suggested eventually. Has anyone considered this, or are we all scared of Morey's schemes?
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:35:51
GermanWigEnds he's getting traded for the number 19 or 20 is the rumor
Bryson
2013-06-26 16:36:12
GermanWigEnds MAKE IT WORK SAM
GermanWigEnds
2013-06-26 16:36:18
long arm of the law GermanWigEnds That's what's in the link
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:36:31
GermanWigEnds long arm of the law I don't read links :)
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:36:39
GermanWigEnds aka, the bolts are boring.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:36:57
The thunder select Reggie Jackson from boston college!
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:37:16
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling BUT WE HAVE MAYNOR
GermanWigEnds
2013-06-26 16:37:18
[coke head] GermanWigEnds I just think he's much more proven than anyone we could pick up mid-1st round
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:37:39
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling he'll be cut by next season.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:37:45
Jooseppi Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Dude's crazy. He says he wants to challenge Russ for the starting role!!
Turfright
2013-06-26 16:37:50
[coke head] Jooseppi Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling And Fisher right before the trade deadline.
Aren't
2013-06-26 16:38:15
"Oh cool! A draft link from ESPN. I should read it." *insider link* "Eff!!"
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:38:47
d21 Everyone's comps are horrible players haha.  Steven Adams has Daniel Orton as his 3rd closest.  Noguiera's #1 is Johan Petro.  Trey Burke's #1 is Reggie Jackson CJ Mccollum's #1 is Ronnie Brewer haha!
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:39:37
I  hope we bring Brewer back...tho I dont think he enjoyed his time here.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:39:38
[coke head] The first three are negotiable
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:40:10
long arm of the law He's barely 6 ft 4 with shoes on so he's going to have to be as good as Tony Allen to be able to cover bigger guys like Kd, Lebron and even Kobe. Offensively he's going to be great in transition and if he can make his jumpshot respectable he'll be a big threat attacking the basket. His college highlights look like Westbrook in college, he's that good of an athlete.
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:40:44
d21 Cody Zeller #1 is LMA, #2 Al Horford,
GermanWigEnds
2013-06-26 16:41:09
[coke head] So you're in the BrewCrew?
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:41:16
Aren't I hate that they have put damn near everything behind a paywall.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:42:08
Turfright [coke head] Jooseppi Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling OkcBaby said we should be worried about Westbrooks future with the Thunder and not Maynor's.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:44:12
[coke head] Pretzels is untouchable.
jeffori
2013-06-26 16:45:19
Sustainable Parameters Liked for that comment. I thought I was the only one who had a thing for Mrs.Sef..
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 16:46:30
LOL at Ben's 2nd comparison being Willie Warren. Stay.The.H.E.Double.Hockey.Sticks.Away!
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:47:50
d21 via Sam Amico via Andy Katz
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:48:29
via DT
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:48:31
d21 okcjim Noel Derrick Favors, Chris Bosh, Greg Oden Len -  Myers Leonard, Darrell Arthur, Robin Lopez Adams - Robin Lopez, Javale McGee,
cfountain
2013-06-26 16:48:39
d21 If we really the day tomorrow with Perk off this team and a Top 5 pick....amazing bruhs.
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:49:07
d21 Still laughing and hanging up on the other end.
okcjim
2013-06-26 16:50:20
Jax Raging Bile Duct This is a bad formula.  Everyone's comps stink.
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 16:51:35
http://youtu.be/mYmn-Hasirk Oladipo > Thabo
WestCrook
2013-06-26 16:52:03
Big Brother in two hours!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 16:52:09
[coke head] d21 Perk is our heart and soul, don't let him go for anything lower than #3!!!!
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:54:27
cfountain d21 thabeet starting center for the thunder
Aren't
2013-06-26 16:54:34
WestCrook The NSA?
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 16:54:41
so is oladipo a 2?
Perk-Nightmares
2013-06-26 16:54:41
f5alcon cfountain d21 outta control
Aren't
2013-06-26 16:55:19
WestCrook Never mind. I'm a moron.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:56:03
Trying to find positive comments from other fanbases about Perk on twitter, they don't exist.
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:56:17
long arm of the law yes, without much versatility to play other positions.
WestCrook
2013-06-26 16:56:47
Aren't WestCrook Lol
WestCrook
2013-06-26 16:57:17
OBoy All I see is Lol or No one wants that bum
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 16:57:40
OKC_Longhorn Oladipo > Lazar?
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 16:57:49
PRESTI YOU ARE THE MAN THANK GOD HE KNOWS PERK IS A FUCKING BUM
Perk-Nightmares
2013-06-26 16:58:34
Jooseppi OKC_Longhorn blasphemy !
jeffori
2013-06-26 16:58:42
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-thunders-thabo-sefolosha-wife-work-to-help-children-in-south-africa/article/3780056 Old news, but one big reason why I don't want Thabo to get dealt anywhere, is his wife
f5alcon
2013-06-26 16:58:45
OBoy well if they clone howard-dwight
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 16:58:54
Anybody on earth > Lazar
OBoy
2013-06-26 16:58:57
f5alcon OBoy OOPS
jeffori
2013-06-26 16:59:00
f5alcon OBoy LOL deleted
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-26 16:59:17
jeffori His wife is a genuine sweetheart and great woman... and she's smokin' too.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 16:59:37
jeffori f5alcon OBoy Palmer also tweeted "Every GM secretly wants a super team. Fact." verbatim. So...yeah.
OBoy
2013-06-26 17:01:50
lmp5336 jeffori f5alcon OBoy he's my favorite.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:02:28
"I think AAU is the worst thing to ever happen to the world." -Charles Barkley
Perk-Nightmares
2013-06-26 17:02:44
Lost Ones loud noises!
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 17:03:15
OBoy lmp5336 jeffori f5alconhttps://twitter.com/ESPNChrisPalmer/status/349983391116038145
Perk-Nightmares
2013-06-26 17:03:35
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling makes stars out of kids. help them neglect studies, parents like to fight.  yup ...... pretty awful
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:04:32
OBoy lmp5336 jeffori f5alcon I like him.  He's the anti-Skip.  Everyone is the greatest of all time
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:04:42
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling the worst thing ever, I mean hitler was pretty bad, but they AAU.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 17:05:34
jeffori You can ogle her pictures on the Internet regardless of where Thabo plays.
jeffori
2013-06-26 17:06:40
Resurrecting an old topic, but I've been hearing buzz about Utah trying to draft big because of their uncertainty on some of their frontcourt players returning. Anyone we can see coming here for a deal? Millsap? Kanter? Anyones better than Perk at this point
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:07:08
Chris Palmer seriously just said that Harden, Dwight, Parsons would be the best trio in the NBA next season. Seriously.
OBoy
2013-06-26 17:07:25
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I tried to post below but screwed it up.
WestCrook
2013-06-26 17:07:40
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Agreed
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 17:07:48
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I feel pretty good about Monta, Jimmer, Shabazz if it happens.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:07:49
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 3 max players right there according to dt
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:08:08
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling well actually DT didn't think harden was worth the max.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:09:00
long arm of the law Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I don't think you mean "DT" so much as "that one guy on DT"
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 17:09:03
offer perk #12 and #29 to bobcats for number #4 pick..we probably have to take a bad contract but we get rid of Perk and can draft a pormising center..
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:09:15
Jax Raging Bile Duct jeffori But he can't hide ina tree across from her window
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 17:09:26
They won't do that...
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:09:29
KD4theWin we can't take bad contracts. I think thats a problem right?
WestCrook
2013-06-26 17:09:32
KD4theWin Tyrus?
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 17:09:36
*promising
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-26 17:09:41
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling KD > Howard Russ > Harden Serge > Parsons Palmer is really bad at math.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:09:47
KD4theWin also why swap a bad contract for a bad contract?
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:09:56
d21 KD4theWin Cuz Cho is really just an OKC plant
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 17:10:27
d21 KD4theWin they need players..perk might help them..he is better than mullens for sure
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:10:42
KD4theWin d21 that's debateable
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 17:11:45
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Cue that 'sources' pic...
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:12:30
Jax Raging Bile Duct Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling http://blacksportsonline.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Chris-Broussard-Sources.jpg
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:13:01
OKC_Longhorn Get out..
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 17:13:38
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling LOL. I immediately thought you were talking about Chris Broussard.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:14:08
If we are going to trade up, or trade perk, I think phoenix is the team. They realistically could be bad enough to get Wiggins, and really like Lamb.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 17:14:54
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Long a DT favorite for trade possibilities.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:15:27
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I'd rather get Gortat than the pick if we traded with Phoenix.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:15:29
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Yeah, but the question is whether Len or whoever they're targeting will be available at 5
cfountain
2013-06-26 17:15:42
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling honestly they do seem like the only team that realistically something can happen with.
cfountain
2013-06-26 17:17:48
anonymous12345 Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling if we're getting rid of Lamb and Gortat doesnt come back, we'll probably pick McLemore. If we do the trade and Lamb isnt involved it could be for anyone then.
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 17:18:44
d21 hey michael are you interested in a guy with lots of intangibles?
sooner403
2013-06-26 17:19:20
KD4theWin d21 based on track record Jordan may just go for it.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:19:58
lmp5336 Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling We'd get both, and draft a 2. If we traded the dallas pick instead of 12, we could get a big to develop (like adams) behind Gortat. If I'm phoenix I'd actually do that trade too. They would have an awesome shot at Wiggins, a lot of young talent to develop, and a big expiring contract in Perk once they get Wiggins (or some other good player to build around).
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 17:22:10
http://www.rantsports.com/nba/2013/06/26/los-angeles-lakers-fans-prove-idiocy-embarrassingly-beg-dwight-howard-to-stay/
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:22:44
cfountain anonymous12345 Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Why would phoenix want to keep Gortat? He reduces their chance of getting Wiggins and is an expiring contract.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:23:01
TrueChamp I don't get it.  Whats the big deal?
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:23:06
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling lmp5336 No way could we get their pick and Gortat in a trade without giving up someone like Ibaka. Not a chance.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:23:47
[coke head] I'd probably do that. Gordon could maybe even be a rotation player.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:23:55
[coke head] could charlotte take on that many players?
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 17:24:23
[coke head] Do we get the protected pick they got from Detroit when they took on Gordon's contract as part of the deal?
OBoy
2013-06-26 17:24:48
[coke head] Too realistic.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 17:25:07
Someone do me the favor of twisting the late night poster's arms into doing my survey. There are likes at steak.
cfountain
2013-06-26 17:25:15
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling cfountain anonymous12345 I dont know, just typed it for the hell of it...I'm caught up in getting this bum off this team.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 17:25:30
anonymous12345 TrueChamp The big deal is, they don't have no other player to try to "build their future around". If I had only Dwight, i'd try to keep him if I can't get nothing for him in return.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:25:37
lmp5336 [coke head] Gordon only has a year left and depending what happens with Martin, they might need a bench scorer
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-26 17:25:47
In all seriousness, do you think that adding Perk to a trade adds or takes away from a deal?
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 17:25:51
Jax Raging Bile Duct Are you offering me a steak?
OBoy
2013-06-26 17:26:27
TempBoy Brandon takes away.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:26:37
TrueChamp anonymous12345 So if KD and Russ were entering Free Agency, you don't think someone in OKC would put up a billboard like that?
PNT
2013-06-26 17:27:02
Unless the other team is tanking for next year.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 17:27:08
anonymous12345 TrueChamp nah
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:28:18
lmp5336 Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Lamb is younger than Oladipo and has potentially more upside. If McLemore is off the board I absolutely think they'd go for it. Gortat is someone they need to get rid of to go for Wiggins. They don't have anyone on their roster to build around. I guarantee they look at the idea of a Wiggins, Lamb, Dragic core and get excited.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 17:46:29
lmp5336 Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling He's an expiring contract, he's 29, and he's hurting their chances of getting one of a handful of franchise guys next year in a much stronger draft. They have all the incentive in the world to be bad this year, and Gortat will be gone next year regardless. It's much better to be terrible than pretty bad in this league.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:47:37
OLADIPO f5alcon Vanity is nice too, if you're into the "thick" kind of ghetto ish women, which I am. Just don't let her talk, my gracious.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:47:40
Charlotte still owes us for letting them have Byron Mullens.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 17:48:13
Perkins, 12, 29 to Utah for 14 and 21. Take Franklin at 14, take Nogueria at 21.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 17:48:17
f5alcon Sustainable Parameters Did he specify whether the Thunder will draft a player in the top 5 or if a player will be drafted in the top 5 by the Thunder?
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:48:33
OLADIPO Hmm. I would probably say the opposite.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 17:48:35
OLADIPO Patrick Beverly owes us too
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 17:48:40
or can reverse the picks.
KidCanada13
2013-06-26 17:50:35
ThunderUp12 I only say yes to this if its Mccollum or Zeller at 14, with Bullock at 21.
Turfright
2013-06-26 17:50:47
Alright, outside of the top 12, whats on your DT-Early-Christmas-Draft-Morning List? I got: Franklin Mitchell Muscala Antekempwhatever Ledo Bullock
Turfright
2013-06-26 17:51:14
TrueChamp OLADIPO His life.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:51:21
lmp5336 OLADIPO I thought I laid the sarcasm on pretty thick there, guess not.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:51:22
The best part about drafting Len is if we also get rights to his girlfriend, who is listed as 6'7 but might actually be 7'6 looking at the photos I have seen. http://cdn.niketalk.com/e/e0/900x900px-LL-e0a045c4_essence_townsend_shorts_by_lowerrider-d5b08u9.jpeg
WestCrook
2013-06-26 17:51:25
KidCanada13 ThunderUp12 CJ will be gone by number 9
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:51:42
Sustainable Parameters holy hell
WestCrook
2013-06-26 17:51:48
Sustainable Parameters WTF
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:51:55
long arm of the law Sustainable Parameters Holy hell indeed.
Turfright
2013-06-26 17:52:00
[coke head] long arm of the law I would rather scream at Perk all season than Ben Gordon.
Aren't
2013-06-26 17:52:01
Sustainable Parameters Sweet God.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:53:46
Sustainable Parameters long arm of the law Pretty sure if this picture was taken 5 minutes later you'd see her picking up that PT Cruiser and playing with it like a Hot Wheel
lmp5336
2013-06-26 17:54:37
OLADIPO lmp5336 My bad. There was a poster mid-season who was genuinely mad that we got rid of Mullens. Thought it might have been you. Thank God it's not.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:55:25
long arm of the lawSustainable Parametersshe also has a higher vertical leap and longer wingspan than Kelly Olynyk http://media.kitsapsun.com/media/img/photos/2012/02/02/media_c98fc6d021ea46b78f5f2350ec787a89_t607.jpg
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 17:56:11
Sustainable Parameters long arm of the law You just won Daily Thunder for the day.  Congrats.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 17:56:29
OLADIPO Sustainable Parameters long arm of the law boo
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:56:46
Sustainable Parameters f5alcon OLADIPO Its not that people will get offended or that she would see it, I try not to say mean things about people that have done me no wrong, unless it is in a joking manner.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 17:57:30
f5alcon Sustainable Parameters OLADIPO She did me wrong. I went to that wack ass fashion and hair show she held lol.
WestCrook
2013-06-26 17:57:52
Turfright Pierre Jackson, Ledo, Muscala, Carmichael
f5alcon
2013-06-26 17:58:36
[coke head] f5alcon Yeah if you are not high on lamb,  just coke, then it makes more sense, I don't think lamb is great, but I think he can be a rotation player and is better than the guards in this draft.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 17:59:17
Sustainable Parameters long arm of the law Olynky's hair is better.
sooner403
2013-06-26 17:59:32
OLADIPO long arm of the law Sustainable Parametershttp://imgur.com/XreYFmN
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 18:01:36
lmp5336 OLADIPO Last year he had a couple of good games early on and a lot of people were acting like Presti traded away the next Dirk
LAMBGOD
2013-06-26 18:03:29
Sustainable Parameters whoa, go head len,
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:05:10
Presti is smart, he's not going to take someone whos ceiling is a role player at 12. He's either going to move up to get a player that could be a starter or trade the 12th pick and take guys at 29 & 32. Two future 1sts for 12 would be great IMO.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:07:19
OBoyhttp://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/922de91443cd877a9531a127c8f292b2/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/RIDES/2012/10/25-nba-players-and-their-cars/aldrich_345979.jpg
nomad
2013-06-26 18:07:54
Turfright Karasev, Bullock, Mitchell, Muscala Carmichael.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 18:07:56
Sustainable Parameters OBoy Leather flip flops.
Aren't
2013-06-26 18:08:03
OBoy "This year the NBA is doing something a little different. There will bill placeholder GMs making the decisions for each NBA team. Selecting for the Oklahoma City Thunder ...Elgin Baylor."
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:08:07
[coke head]Sustainable ParametersOBoywell if we had a real message board instead of this livefyre nonsense  http://instntrply.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DurantAldrich1.gif
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:08:22
OBoy two future? meh probably depends on the team tho
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:09:28
Lost Ones OBoy Unless they're both in the late 20's you should be able to get to atleast 12 by packaging them, and in a better draft.
nomad
2013-06-26 18:09:42
anonymous12345 OBoy ChrisMannixSI Best post of the summer.
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:10:57
OBoy can we get rid on Perk doing this?
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:12:20
cfountain OBoy Idk, i was just talking about Mannix's tweet i posted below. Obviously we're trying to deal him.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:12:20
OBoy Lost Ones well that's an assumption, how would you know a draft is better before watching those players mature. unless you're talking next years draft i agree.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:12:43
I wonder how perkins feel about all this, we are basically openly shopping him now
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:12:56
I confess, if this is all just one giant head fake and we end up with Mason Plumlee at 12, I'll probably retire to a monastery.
neo12
2013-06-26 18:13:15
Lost Ones They have banks in every city..
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:13:27
OBoy cfountain man, now that we know Presti is trying to move him, I want him gone SOOOO bad!
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:13:33
neo12 Lost Ones LOL reason i respect bynum
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:14:23
[coke head] Lost Ones when their is smoke there is fire, he's being shopped
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:14:28
[coke head] Lost Ones I do wonder how much of this to believe. Presti is famously tight lipped but then again once you pick up the phone to pitch a trade you no longer have a monopoly on the flow of information.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:14:31
Sustainable Parameters I'd feel much better about acquiring the rights to Alex Len Jr.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:14:44
Old Man Game I could take myself into Plumlee, not quite at 12 but below 20 I could deal.
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:14:46
Old Man Game me and Presti gonna have to slap box that one out.
Turfright
2013-06-26 18:15:36
Lost Ones If I am not a super star and I play in the NBA, I would always assumed I am being shopped.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:15:40
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Honestly I'll have hope for ANY center we draft. Right up until I see him play in my mind he could at least be better than Perk and that's not a high bar.
duhsweetness
2013-06-26 18:16:10
Lost Ones He looks grumpy  http://web.stagram.com/p/487091282157266707_7837840
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:16:49
Lost Ones OBoy Everyone is saying this is the worst draft since 2000 so it's a fair assumption that the next few years will be better.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:16:51
Old Man Game [coke head] Lost Ones  Wojo = truth, he says something you believe it
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:18:29
Jooseppi Sustainable Parameters OBoy that first round draft pick life. Those ain't Doc Martens
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:19:25
[coke head] Presti may not discuss his trade plans openly but other gms talk, if Wojnarowski says thunder is looking to trade into the top 5 I believe him we have inquired. Presti may not be serious but it has happened.
tbird26p
2013-06-26 18:19:45
f5alcon KidCanada13 TrueChamp A blind deaf 7th grader could say the Thunder will come away with either... A, B, C, D, or E... I mean it's not hard to put down names especially when Adams and Zeller will most likely be selected in the teens...
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:20:24
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game i don't think i could even talk my self into plumlee as a 2nd round pick
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:20:47
Lost Ones Old Man Game [coke head] Except for when he writes any of his opinions about basketball. Lol those are turrible.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:21:19
OBoy Lost Ones Old Man Game [coke head] lol yea.. he needs to leave basketball up to his sources lol
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 18:21:59
Lost Ones [coke head] There's shopping a guy and then there's picking up the phone and saying, 'Just out curiosity, what would you give us...'  I think this is the case of the latter.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:22:10
[coke head] Lost Ones It's a business. IF they can't handle it they can always go get a regular job.
SantaMenon
2013-06-26 18:24:21
Looks like im having a really late night tomorrow (today as its 00.23am in UK). Draft only starts at 00.30am here so Ill be up a while.  If OKC trade out of this draft im gonna be pissed (even though it might be best for the team) purely because I would have waited up for no reason haha.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:24:29
[coke head] Old Man Game Lost Ones He is? By who? Seems like people never blame him to me.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 18:25:12
[coke head] Old Man Game Lost Ones The agents play a part too.  Len was saying in interviews that OKC was trying to trade up for him.  I'm sure his agent told him to say that.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 18:27:35
FezzyFreeRobinson If they get 2 picks for the #12, they'll be heavily protected
C-Wil
2013-06-26 18:27:50
Guys, prepare for the disappointment when we select Withey with the 12th picky.
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:28:04
while I would be disappointed that we got nothing with the 12 if we traded out, I'd be cool if we kept 29 and 32 tho. and I 'd also be happy because it would mean Presti feels comfortable with Lamb and Perry with the squad...for at least one more year.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:28:07
Seriously though, if you're a developmental big wouldn't you want to come here? No expectations right away. Plenty of time to learn from your mistakes in Tulsa. Eventually all you have to do make it into the starting lineup is beat out a guy who doesn't have one good knee to his name and you'll be surrounded by two of the top 5-6 offensive players in the league to make life easier. Damn. That sounds sweet to me.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-26 18:28:22
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22522527/2013-nba-draft-which-big-man-looks-the-best-for-todays-game
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:28:37
Old Man Game if we trade perkins i would, if not fuck
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:32:13
Do any of the top teams have a recent bad contract they would get rid of to take on perkins?
Aren't
2013-06-26 18:32:27
C-Wil I would fold in half with anger.
WestCrook
2013-06-26 18:32:51
Lost Ones Brooklyn, Knicks, Bulls,
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:33:46
WestCrook Lost Ones i mean top teams in the draft
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 18:34:02
WestCrook My exact list. Though the order goes Ledo, Jackson, Carmichael, Muscala
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:34:24
Oh so basically all the players that anyone would have any interest in whatsoever?https://twitter.com/DarnellMayberryhttps://twitter.com/DarnellMayberry/status/350027460617846784 Untouchables: Westbrook, Durant, Ibaka, Jackson and Lamb.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:34:25
Lost Ones Bobcats and Pistons. It's the only option at this point. Perk is enough of a malcontent already when he gets called for fouls, subbed out of the game, or wants to grab a rebound and Ibaka or KD get it first. After a summer of hearing he was shopped, he would be such a whiner. Only option at this point IMO if nobody wants to give you anything good for him, is to see if you can flip him for another equally horrendous contract like Gordon or Villanueva or TThomas
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:34:48
Old Man Game So Orton is available? Just want to confirm
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:34:53
Old Man Game JACKSON AND LAMB!!!!!!
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:37:01
not if you're Mouhammed Jaiteh. Thunder told him after his workout if chosen he would spend most of the season in the D League and he was like http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Carlton-Slides-on-Floor.gif
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:37:04
Lost Ones WestCrook  Bobcats: Ty Thomas, Ben Gordon Magic: Jameer, Big Baby Wizards : Ariza, Okafor (both expiring) Suns : Beasley, i think they want to trade Gortat Kings : the entire roster Detroit : Charlie V, Stuckey
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:37:29
Old Man Game Lamb is definitely not untouchable.
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:38:08
Old Man Game don't work too hard there Darnell, it's the offseason.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:39:24
Not likely to happen in real life, but in a sim league I drafted CJ McCollum at 12, Lucas Noguiera at 29, AND flipped Perkins contract for Zach Randolph and #41 and # 60.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:39:33
OBoy Lost Ones WestCrook out of that list i'd take ben gordon Beasley(meh idk) and stuckey depending on how long his contract is I'd perfer ben gordon
DeMolay_Thunder
2013-06-26 18:40:22
Lost Ones OBoy WestCrook I think I would take a chance with Beasley.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:40:49
DeMolay_Thunder Lost Ones OBoy WestCrook I think he has skill, i just don't know about his head
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:41:10
Lost Ones DeMolay_Thunder OBoy WestCrook i'm out, not this again.
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:41:11
FezzyFreeRobinson Sustainable Parameters lots of alcohol.
BallSoHard
2013-06-26 18:41:25
Just watched the Kentucky vs Maryland game from last season. Good lord, I have never seen such overrated top prospects. Both are mediocre. Len dominated Noel for the record...
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:41:33
FezzyFreeRobinson Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Old Man Game Making your 3rd string SG untouchable is stupid when you're trying to win a title. Presti is not stupid.
sooner403
2013-06-26 18:41:39
Sustainable Parameters over under on gazbo posts for the season if that happened?
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:41:44
OBoy Lost Ones DeMolay_Thunder WestCrook lol f u man
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:41:53
FezzyFreeRobinson Sustainable Parameters the Nets are tanking for LeBron in a sim league. Yea, Randolph was a Net. I don't how everyone overlooked Noguiera in the first round though. At 32, I'm probably looking at Livio Jean Charles (as we should in real life) or James Ennis if the former is taken in the next 2 picks. I got a deal in principle for KMart but they haven't decided how to let us handle fas yet but it's for Garcia and Delfino.
DeMolay_Thunder
2013-06-26 18:41:55
Lost Ones DeMolay_Thunder OBoy WestCrook I think if the Thunder put him in a stress free position (on the bench behind Lamb/Jackson) it could work. And I'm sorry OBoy, I don't remember seeing this conversation before.
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:42:50
Lost Ones OBoy DeMolay_Thunder WestCrook Justin's Ben Gordon scenario is something I would probably like. I knew i shouldn't have but Beasley's name on that list.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:42:51
BallSoHard  how are they overrated when they're better then the rest? it's not like they can enter the 2008 draft or some shit
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:43:26
DeMolay_Thunder Lost Ones OBoy WestCrook I'm just kidding, when Lost One's starts posting trade machine links with Beasley again i'll get mad.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 18:43:38
BallSoHard It's one game and it was the first game of the season.
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 18:43:47
OBoy : I'd trade Perk, PJII, the 12th pick and the 32nd pick for Salmons, the 7th pick and the 36th pick.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 18:44:06
Old Man Game What about Scott Brooks?  Is he off limits?
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:44:51
FezzyFreeRobinson Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Old Man Game And martin? Sure. Also being open to the possibility of trading someone is not the same as trading them without a plan to replace them.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:44:58
I'm sorry PJ3 you'd have to go if it means getting rid of perk, hell you and thabo can go it's that serious
OBoy
2013-06-26 18:46:26
How the hell did Jason Thompson get signed until 2017? He would be a good player to swap Perk with but i don't think role players signed til 2017 is something you want.
okcjim
2013-06-26 18:47:08
Noel's first college game.
Sigmund
2013-06-26 18:47:23
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling FezzyFreeRobinson Old Man Game Presti is very high on Lamb. I'd have to be some established player like Al Horford for Presti to trade Lamb, not some draft pick.
qrex
2013-06-26 18:47:24
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling FezzyFreeRobinson Old Man Game What are the chances we see Martin in a Thunder uniform again?
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:47:40
[coke head] OBoy Lost Ones DeMolay_Thunder WestCrook I laughed
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:48:17
qrex Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling FezzyFreeRobinson Old Man Game Depends on these next 24 hours.
okcjim
2013-06-26 18:48:35
He's 2nd string
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:50:02
[coke head] Lost Ones OBoy DeMolay_Thunder WestCrook perkins plays with 2 of the best players in the league and still sucks offensively, defensively as well as rebounding. perkins just had one of the worst playoffs pers in nba history. beasley can go 0-40 and he'll still be better then perkins by having one 18-10 game a season
BallSoHard
2013-06-26 18:50:52
Lost Ones BallSoHard because i said they were
Bryson
2013-06-26 18:52:05
[coke head] Lost Ones OBoy DeMolay_Thunder WestCrook Beasley could be Tulsa's MVP. Get him.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:52:25
Sigmund Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling FezzyFreeRobinson Old Man Game I only think he'd be traded if we could replace perk with a competent center AND move up in the draft, but I think it's silly to call him untouchable after seeing how Presti handled the Harden situation.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:52:37
Bryson [coke head] Lost Ones OBoy DeMolay_Thunder WestCrook LOL, perkins couldn't even been  AAU MVP
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:52:59
Lost Ones And at this point, what do we put the odds at of PJ3 actually contributing?
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:53:42
BallSoHard Tim Duncan's not walking through that door college basketball fans.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 18:53:50
Old Man Game Lost Ones He would be a beast on the Nuggets. He just isn't really good at anything yet except running and jumping and hasn't found a way to make that into something useful (like defending and rebounding).
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:54:26
Old Man Game Lost Ones I say 2-1 odds of not contributing management doesn't seem to care about developing him. he's extremely raw and still doesn't have a clue what to do. he should be running the floor on the break to score, defending as well as rebounding until he gets a shot. he can handle the ball as well but no shooting
cfountain
2013-06-26 18:54:32
Old Man Game Lost Ones I still think he's another year or 2 away. I'd love to be wrong tho...if he stays with us.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:54:35
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones I think you're right. He can clearly catch a lob pass. If he could set a better screen we'd have something at least as a roll man.
Bryson
2013-06-26 18:54:55
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones The games he's played in he was a monster on the defensive boards. He just finished his rookie season, I'll give him some more time. I have faith.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 18:55:03
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones I think he could be really good for a team like the Spurs, but I just don't see him cracking the rotation (>15 mpg) so long as we're contending for titles
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:56:59
Bryson Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones yea he's impressive , in fact one of our best at rebounding
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:57:31
[coke head] FezzyFreeRobinson Old Man Game Lost Ones Does a sad trombone just follow you around?
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:58:27
[coke head] Bryson Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones  go that way>
duhsweetness
2013-06-26 18:58:58
OBoy "Sactown!" would be my answer
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 18:59:24
Old Man Game [coke head] FezzyFreeRobinson Lost Ones  lol we need to find him a girl or some shit, he stay depressed i feel for him
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 18:59:29
[coke head] Old Man Game FezzyFreeRobinson Lost Ones Debbie downer. J/k We don't know what we'd do without your sarcasm around her Justin? Probably have hopes and dreams and some other unrealistic shit.
Bryson
2013-06-26 19:00:06
[coke head] Bryson Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones Once again, rookie with limited minutes and limited experience. For those standards, pretty monstrous. I'm not saying he's some Faried-esque beast, but he's been good.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:00:23
I imagine justin is exactly like Michael Cera in This Is The End.
Aren't
2013-06-26 19:01:38
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I imagine Justin as his past avatar when it was a picture of a face drawn with crayon.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-26 19:01:47
Old Man Game Lost Ones At some point over the next 4 years? 60-80%
Bryson
2013-06-26 19:01:51
Aren't Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Gahh, you beat me to it.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-26 19:02:24
OLADIPO Old Man Game Nope
Bryson
2013-06-26 19:03:31
[coke head] Bryson Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones almost 8 per game in college playing the majority of his minutes at the 3. There's potential. It doesn't take much to be a good rebounder on our squad.
Aren't
2013-06-26 19:03:37
Bryson Aren't Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling And now it's a pile of cocaine. How the times change.
Sigmund
2013-06-26 19:04:06
[coke head] Bryson Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones 17.0 DRB% in college.
Bryson
2013-06-26 19:04:46
[coke head] Aren't Bryson Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I knew it was a pile of flour. Poser.
Lost Ones
2013-06-26 19:11:08
Sigmund [coke head] Bryson Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game Lost Ones that's pretty good for a player who played a ton of zone
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:12:39
Question, can Oladipo create his own look? I keep reading that the handle is fairly rudimentary limited mostly to straight line drives.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:13:54
Old Man Game No, he can't really. Makes him a terrible #1 option, but I don't think it would matter here if we could get him.
Bryson
2013-06-26 19:14:00
Old Man Game Simmons and Jalen talked about it. He can, just not at an NBA level. It'll take some development.
cfountain
2013-06-26 19:14:13
Old Man Game no he cant.
cfountain
2013-06-26 19:15:21
I'd like Jason Thompson...if the Kings will take Perk.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:15:47
[coke head] Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling I'm assuming I'm the only one who's seen that movie, 'cause that is a dynamite comparison.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:16:03
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Old Man Game But why are all these other teams interested in him? Weak draft explains everything I gues.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:17:37
Old Man Game Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling MKG's season is a cautionary tale against selecting him. Could help us get him if Presti so desires.
BallSoHard
2013-06-26 19:17:59
DarnellMayberry: And for those saying the Dallas pick isn't enticing, know that it's potentially 3-14 in what could be an incredible strong draft next year. Darnell is an idiot
OBoy
2013-06-26 19:18:58
Old Man Game He's going to be left open so yes.
Sigmund
2013-06-26 19:21:10
Old Man Game He is very limited offensively, I think his ceiling is more efficient Vernon Maxwell.
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:22:51
He corrected himself
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:23:09
Sigmund Old Man Game I think he's shooting guard Ron Artest.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:23:17
And I ask this question because I've been pulling my hair out with all these comments I read here and elsewhere saying he'll be the best player in this draft or he reminds them of Russell Westbrook (Royce) or other offensive studs. I didn't watch him that much but in the games I saw he was limited mostly be being a pit bull defender (always good no doubt) and a spot shooter. I just don't see him as a high usage number 1 option top 5 pick type.
OBoy
2013-06-26 19:23:33
https://twitter.com/DrewGarrisonSBN/status/350045614144368640/photo/1
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 19:23:39
Who says no? Perk, PJ III, Thabo, and the 29th pick to the Kings for Salmons, Thompson, and the 7th pick.
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:24:06
He shot 43% from 3 last year. He can shoot like Thabo if Hes wide open
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 19:24:22
BallSoHard I am not! I mean.... HE  is not...
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:25:34
We don't need a high usage guy though that's why both he and McLemore would both fit here.
Sigmund
2013-06-26 19:25:41
okcjim He made 30 threes in 36 games.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:26:02
okcjim No I know he sort of makes sense here. But all these teams like PHX and Charlotte and whatnot?
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:27:14
At 43%. He shot it well.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:27:22
Sigmund okcjim He shot less than 2 threes a game.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:29:00
Old Man Game okcjim Guy's that definitely won't be busts are attractive in a draft like this, but I think most teams would be open to trading picks for future picks and other proven guys.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:30:51
BallSoHard I keep waiting for the Darnell parody account that does nothing but post old information, write terrible analysis taken from bleacher report, and overvalue the most oddball off guard on the roster.
OBoy
2013-06-26 19:31:45
Jax Raging Bile Duct BallSoHard SHOTS FIRED
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 19:31:51
Old Man Game This isn't directed at you, I just think it's funny how some people talk about how Oladipo can't shoot (when he has at least one season of shooting well) or say, "it's only 30 attempts," but will turn around and tout someone like MCW who has been an awful shooter while saying, "you can teach shooting."  There's evidence that Oladipo is already on his way as a shooter, and he is by all accounts an incredibly hard worker.  No doubt he's the type to be in the gym all summer getting shots up, and he has a history of improvement.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:32:02
Sigmund Like'd for invoking the name of my favorite childhood player.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:33:42
OLADIPO Old Man Game I'm more interested in him working on that handle.
OBoy
2013-06-26 19:33:58
Old Man Game Russ wasn't an offensive stud when he got drafted either though but Oladipo is older. My comparisons to Westbrook have just been based on his athleticism at the college level.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 19:33:59
you know guys, we are kinda living dangerously..and i dont mean PRESTI. i mean US, DT!    we are living on the right side links side ------------> thats INSANE!
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:38:51
OBoy Old Man Game Well let's talk about his athleticism. How good is he athletically? The 42" max vert is very nice but is he a quick leaper?
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:39:29
[coke head] Jax Raging Bile Duct Sigmund No but I remember when he went into the stands to punch out a fan.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:40:19
[coke head] No, because I was just a little kid and I don't remember ever hearing anything bad about anybody ever until I watched that one video about how STD's are made. Then I found out the world sucks hairy asshole sometimes, and your favorite players are actually terrible people.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 19:41:59
https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/277780584/meandthecommish.jpg Remember that the Thunder get Toronto's unprotected pick next season. No reason to make a trade now.  https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/277780584/meandthecommish.jpg
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:42:15
It's obvious to me the Thunder really don't want to move up (from what they are offering). Either they are very ignorant to the market value of Perk or they are just throwing it out there just in case. I kind of think the latter is more realistic. Sounds like they've put a similarly steep price tag on #12 to trade out of that spot for future picks which tells me they think there is value in that area but if someone wants to overpay they'll take it. There is value at 29 and 32. I sure hope we don't give those up for nothing. Especially if we go center with # 12.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:43:09
okcjim Interesting thoughts.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:44:17
[coke head] okcjim I think he's saying it's a "what do we have to lose, worst that happens is they say no and we don't really care that much if they do."
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:44:22
How much of a smoke screen is perk plus 12 and 29 for top 5?
cfountain
2013-06-26 19:45:32
okcjim i'd be cool with keeping 12. Plenty of players I'd like that will be there. I just got caught up in getting rid Perk in the process. I'm mentally preparing my self for Perk to still be here tomorrow...and in all of our hearts we know its true.
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:46:03
Perk reduces the value of the picks. 12 and 29 isn't enough to get up there but you throw a horrible contract I the mix and you have to scratch your head a little bit. No perk in that deal is a much better deal.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:46:20
Old Man Game OBoy He's a more functional athlete than McLemore. He's one tier of athleticism below Russ.
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:46:51
Maybe a trade back too. Who knows?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:46:55
Jooseppi Then again, why even have a parody account.
lmp5336
2013-06-26 19:48:02
That can't be real. No way.
neo12
2013-06-26 19:50:08
RJ + 12+29 for Orlando's #2 pick?  I think that's probably only way we get into top 5
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 19:50:12
lmp5336 I'm pretty sure its fake
Aren't
2013-06-26 19:50:35
Off topic, but Planes looks like an absolutely horrible movie.
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:51:04
What else do we have to go off? Did Katz make it up?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:51:07
neo12 You're... serious?
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 19:51:53
neo12 No thanks. Big time overpay
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:51:55
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Old Man Game OBoy I think that's right. I see him dunking and it's impressive but he doesn't have that awe-inspiring explosion Russ has.
neo12
2013-06-26 19:52:17
Jax Raging Bile Duct neo12 I wouldn't do it.. but i think RJ has pretty high trade value and not core of the team..
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 19:53:04
Aren't like the cars prequel?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:53:12
neo12 Holy Cow.
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:53:12
They are right a decent amount. They said we were trying to get beal last year. I don't think guys like Katz guess. They are connected.
neo12
2013-06-26 19:53:30
Jax Raging Bile Duct neo12 And its no secret orlando looking for PG.. and plus its hennigan..
okcjim
2013-06-26 19:53:39
Darnell guesses. Chad ford and Katz are connected.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 19:54:39
lmao the mock draft on espn has us taking *drum roll*  GOBERT!
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 19:55:26
Legendary_Dork Good value, he's a top 5 talent.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 19:55:35
Jooseppi Legendary_Dork .............
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 19:55:53
[coke head] anonymous12345 lmp5336 I can say with 99% certainty that its fake 95% of the time
neo12
2013-06-26 19:56:07
Old Man Game Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling OBoy I think 99.9% of population doesn't..
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 19:56:56
[coke head] Jooseppi Legendary_Dork http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3uzpkf/
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 19:58:15
Legendary_Dork I'm pretty much over these mock drafts at this point. I've seen basically every player other than Noel linked to us in a mock at one point or another I think.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:58:16
Do I need to spam my survey link again?
neo12
2013-06-26 19:58:36
Jax Raging Bile Duct Go for it..
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 19:58:47
neo12 Old Man Game Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling OBoy I think you need some more 9s
Aren't
2013-06-26 19:59:16
Jax Raging Bile Duct Just do it, man!
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 19:59:19
neo12 Yes sir. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/T8RZKJT
okcjim
2013-06-26 20:00:07
How did the beal thing get leaked? They are connected to scouts/GM's etc... gM's use the media all the time. Im sure Cleveland leaked our interest to increase the value. The more interest the more value. I don't think Katz pulls this stuff out of his butt.
anonymous12345
2013-06-26 20:00:50
[coke head] anonymous12345 lmp5336 Depends on what trend rate you use
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:01:45
Man, I got too excited by my own fake trade, and now everything else seems lame. Perk, Lamb, 29, 32, and Dallas' pick for Gortat and 5. Would be so beautiful.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:02:43
Jax Raging Bile Duct neo12 Going to save the results for tomorrow?
neo12
2013-06-26 20:03:13
[coke head] okcjim Well of course Presti is not leaking this.. But a trade involves two sides.. i don't think thunder can control what other teams leak
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 20:03:34
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling i thought we wanted len though
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 20:04:51
Legendary_Dork Jooseppi I've hardly missed a Cholet game the past two years. I think he could be some sort of Paul Millsap / Javale McGee hybrid.
okcjim
2013-06-26 20:05:05
Ford has us with Adams not gobert
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:05:13
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling If that trade happened we'd have Gortat, K-mart, Oladipo, McLemore, and potentially Adams/Zeller.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:05:35
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop *Oladipo/McLemore
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 20:06:51
On NBA TV a bit agao they just said, what Noel is to shot blocking Canaan is to shooting in this draft.  If that means he's a special shooter wouldn't that make him one of the better options in this entire draft?
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:07:33
[coke head] Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling The comparative weakness of this draft to 2012/2014, Gortat's detriment to the Wiggins chase, and Phoenix's previously stated desire for Lamb, i think it might be.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:09:42
Legendary_Dork *NBATV
MrRaysian
2013-06-26 20:13:12
i hope we don't give up too much more than this package plus like a Perry to get Len. anymore than that and seems like too much for such an unknown
neo12
2013-06-26 20:14:06
MrRaysian Yup.. its not like we've been burnt on big man projects in the past.. cough cough..
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:14:35
[coke head] Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Gortat was below average for a starting C last year. Perkins becomes a big expiring contract as soon as they have Wiggins/consolation prize. They possibly could, but who's offering? If I was offered this deal (as the phoenix GM) in the absence of any other offers, I would take it.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 20:15:04
College fans, how would you rate Olynyk's physicality?
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-26 20:17:17
So Reggie + 29, 32 and a future first for pick 2. who says no?
OBoy
2013-06-26 20:17:34
neo12 MrRaysian What's your point? Cole was taken in the late lottery and we're in the late lottery now, wouldn't it make sense to move up and get a better big man?
OBoy
2013-06-26 20:17:41
Come Home Professor X Orlando
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:18:02
Old Man Game On offense, 8. On defense, 4.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-26 20:18:03
OBoy Come Home Professor X Why?
OBoy
2013-06-26 20:19:07
Come Home Professor X OBoy Because Reggie isn't proven, can't shoot, not a great passer and the other assets we would give up aren't great either.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 20:19:14
Old Man Game My sample size is like five games (OSU, OU, Butler, Souther, and Wichita St.), but I'd say non-existent. Along the same lines, I didn't think much of Zeller in the 5-10 games I saw of him, either.  Thought they were both incredibly weak.
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 20:19:33
Old Man Game Southern*
thunder_from_down_under
2013-06-26 20:20:21
just my 2 cents, even though i don't have as much bball (close to none) knowledge as you Americans (im from aus, and all this draft talk is awesome, american sports just has a way larger following from all over the world, and is a ridiculously large business, which i studied at uni, we have nothing like this in aus, our closest thing is our AFL draft and it doesnt come close, even though we are still crazy about sports) im amazed how much time and effort goes into this draft, and how much talk goes down about it, I love the thunder and DT, and enjoy watching you all discuss it like its your first child 1. i dont think we need to trade up, as long as we get a big , hopefully adams, (kiwis are very hard workers), i think we can work with him, just look at serge, he was just a shot blocker really to start off, and now he has a decent jumper and hits 3's, that must say something about the thunder work ethic and coaching staff, and serge of course 2.brooks should try some new stuff early on, just to give lamb and this pick a chance, using perk like he has is just insanity, because we will make the playoffs next year, but if we can get lamb, pj3 and this pick some real time, maybe they gain some confidence, i duno love your work royce
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 20:20:53
10 years ago we picked the best player in the draft, Nick Collison.
OBoy
2013-06-26 20:21:10
You guys act like Cole was taken with the 1st overall pick and not 11th.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:21:39
Old Man Game Yes. He will be a top-15 player in the draft IMO.
PNT
2013-06-26 20:22:15
Because our future 1st round picks are going to suck.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 20:22:16
OBoy Would have won a championship with Craig Brackins on this team.
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:23:20
OBoy Come Home Professor X His potential is to great and  who will backup RW after he is gone. I am not saying I want to but trading Perry Jones is better option. He won't receive any playing time, or at least not until Nick Collison is traded or retired.
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:24:28
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Old Man Game I agree with 8 on offense and maybe 3 on defense.
areayewhy
2013-06-26 20:24:35
Come Home Professor X OBoy also, they're getting bledsoe
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:25:37
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling Take out at least one pick or Lamb and I think that is a good trade.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 20:25:56
Old Man Game 8's 4's and 3's don't mean anything to me. Compare him to prior players, or the periodic table please.
OBoy
2013-06-26 20:28:25
thebossman4 OBoy Come Home Professor X neither one is getting us the 2nd pick!! this is madness.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 20:28:37
Old Man Game I remember Jurick (liked to rough his guy up, for those unfamiliar with OSU) gave him a hard time in the first half against OSU. Olynyk ended up having an amazing second half but I thought it was rather easy to take him out of the game if you didn't care whether your big racked up fouls (Olynyk being in foul trouble helped, too).
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 20:29:03
Just waiting long enough to give everyone a chance to fill the survey out. Trying to give people 24 hours so I can catch the posters from all walks of life. Will probably spam the results tomorrow.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 20:30:25
Jooseppi Old Man Game And for those unfamiliar, Jurick makes Perkins look like Hakeem Olajuwon.
neo12
2013-06-26 20:30:32
Come Home Professor X I think we need to package #12 also.  Minn is offering Derrick williams, 9 and 26.
neo12
2013-06-26 20:31:20
When does FA start Jul 1?
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:31:49
Come Home Professor X The player chosen with the pick is also unproven. So what makes him any different then Jackson?
areayewhy
2013-06-26 20:31:49
neo12 yes
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 20:32:02
OBoy that's still lottery and before Larry Sanders.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 20:33:14
Old Man Game That he wants to work out as a stretch 4 and run around shooting jumpers worries me a bit. Maybe that's just to show off a skill set he didn't use all that often but I think there's a good chance he has Byron Mullens' decision making.
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:33:23
Come Home Professor X @OBoy I know I stated that Perry Jones is a little more expendable then Reggie Jackson.
OBoy
2013-06-26 20:34:06
Sustainable Parameters OBoy My point is just because Cole didn't pan out doesn't mean Presti should stop drafting bigs. If he wants a big he should probably trade up because the late lottery is always going to be hit or miss.
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:34:38
thunder_from_down_under I like the word kiwis
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 20:34:58
[coke head] Jooseppi Old Man Game He's more skilled than Mullens, less athletic.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 20:36:11
I ask because I'm wondering if there's any chance Olynyk can develop into a sort of David West clone?
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:36:59
[coke head] thebossman4 Come Home Professor X In possibly the worst draft ever?
OLADIPO
2013-06-26 20:37:42
Old Man Game David West is a grown ass man.  Would take a lot of HGH and testosterone injections to get Olynyk to that point.
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 20:37:46
OBoy Sustainable Parameters Len looks very hit or miss to me. Not sure its worth moving up for him. I'm more confident in Noel finding ways to contribute in the league.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 20:38:07
Old Man Game I don't think so.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 20:39:28
Stringer Bell OBoy Sustainable Parameters Noel could also end up the next Jarvis Varnado
neo12
2013-06-26 20:39:51
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop Oh he was a #12 pick also.  I wouldn't mind getting another Nick in this draft..
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:40:02
Sustainable Parameters Stringer Bell OBoy On the bench of a stacked team?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 20:40:18
neo12 Oh you mean Zeller then. I get you.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 20:41:03
Jooseppi Old Man Game So you're saying there's a chance?
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 20:41:25
Sustainable Parameters Stringer Bell OBoy For sure. Just saying I have more confidence in Noel than Len. Not confident in anyone in this draft, besides maybe McCollum. I think he can find a niche in the NBA.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 20:41:32
thebossman4 Sustainable Parameters Stringer Bell OBoy rail thin athletic shot blocking monster in college who is trash in the NBA
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 20:42:04
neo12 OohWeeItsVelvetHoop no to anybody who is going to come into camp around 20% body fat
MrRaysian
2013-06-26 20:42:14
thunder_from_down_under from my count that's at least 3 + Aussies following DT now.
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:42:21
[coke head] thebossman4 Come Home Professor X Most of the time there is clear no. 1. Out of all the talent, I don't see any superstar potential
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 20:42:41
MrRaysian thunder_from_down_under We takin over.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 20:42:43
[coke head] Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling He had a league average PER and isn't known as a defensive force. I think you're dramatically underestimating how valuable it is to get a franchise guy in the draft. Nothing they could get for any of those assets would be even close to Wiggins. The point is that they should WANT to take a 1-year downgrade wherever possible, while acquiring young, cheap players with potential. Lamb is younger than Oladipo, and arguably has more potential, not to mention a better fit for a team devoid of efficient scorers. He was #12 last year, and is certainly a better prospect than KCP. If we assume he's worth the 8th pick, I think 29, 32, and DAL would even be overkill. In short, I would take both deals.
WestCrook
2013-06-26 20:43:22
neo12 That's when talks start. Signing starts July 10th
thebossman4
2013-06-26 20:44:50
Sustainable Parameters neo12 OohWeeItsVelvetHoop Zeller couldn't play defense to save his life. I don't think he will do well against NBA post players.
neo12
2013-06-26 20:45:41
Sustainable Parameters thebossman4 Stringer Bell OBoy I think he's going to be similar to Larry sanders in nba..
thunder_from_down_under
2013-06-26 20:46:04
Stringer Bell MrRaysian thunder_from_down_under there is a lot of thunder supporters down here, but not many follow DT, so glad i stumbled upon is a few years ago
neo12
2013-06-26 20:46:34
thunder_from_down_under Stringer Bell MrRaysian Why the Thunder? because of KD?
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 20:47:04
thebossman4 Sustainable Parameters neo12 OohWeeItsVelvetHoop I'm not huge on Zeller either. His combine numbers were impressive but then you look at his actual game film and it doesn't really express itself. I thought he was going to have DeAndre Jordan/Javale McGee highlights when I heard he hit like 37 on the max vert
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 20:50:25
neo12 thunder_from_down_under Stringer Bell MrRaysian I was a big time Sonics fan since I was a kid. I chose the Sonics because of three reasons; I loved Gary Payton, I loved Shawn Kemp and I loved Sonic the Hedgehog.  So when they moved I was attached to the players and even had a Jeff Green Sonics rookie jersey... so stuck with the Thunder.
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 20:51:03
neo12 thunder_from_down_under Stringer Bell MrRaysian And probably Muscle Chestbrook
thunder_from_down_under
2013-06-26 20:52:43
neo12 thunder_from_down_under Stringer Bell MrRaysian when i stared watching the NBA (bout 3 years ago), didnt want to go for a team that was super popular, was thinking of warriors just because of bogut being an aussie, but thunder was more appealing, ye KD is a big draw card, russ too, i just the love the thunder playing with a great spirit and fun attitude
elginthunder
2013-06-26 20:53:17
Adams out eating worth his bro and posted a picture of him rocking a Thunder tee. Feel free to overly read into it. It's draft season after all
elginthunder
2013-06-26 20:55:39
*with
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 20:55:44
http://youtu.be/BhBASopLABw
Aren't
2013-06-26 20:57:54
elginthunder Would "Thunder from Down Under" still work even if he's from New Zealand and not Australia?
areayewhy
2013-06-26 20:58:39
Aren't elginthunder i figured his nickname would just be the big kiwi
WestCrook
2013-06-26 20:58:41
KD on the tweet from Chris Palmerhttps://twitter.com/KDTrey5https://twitter.com/KDTrey5/status/350067047121686530 https://twitter.com/CuffsTheLegend yea that dude says anything
cfountain
2013-06-26 20:59:01
elginthunder I wouldnt mind if we drafted him.
cfountain
2013-06-26 20:59:40
WestCrook What did Chris say?
WestCrook
2013-06-26 21:00:21
cfountain WestCrook My bad he said that Harde/Howard/Parsons would make the best trio in the NBA
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:00:44
Sustainable Parameters That was a good show. Loved the "White guys can't jump" segment.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:00:44
WestCrook cfountain lmao
okcjim
2013-06-26 21:00:47
Espnu draft special srarting
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 21:01:17
Jax Raging Bile Duct Sustainable Parameters me too, showed rare footage of Kerr squeaking in a dunk too
cfountain
2013-06-26 21:01:24
WestCrook cfountain thanks and LOL!
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:01:32
so according to the NBA.tv  mock draft we take gobert and ledo at 29 lmao
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 21:02:12
Legendary_Dork feel like I read somewhere Ledo doesn't want to get drafted here
MrRaysian
2013-06-26 21:02:24
thunder_from_down_under neo12 Stringer Bell MrRaysian haha same thing here! i've been playing basketball all my life but never really followed an NBA team (i always watched iverson play coz he was my idol at the time) my best friend is a nugget supporter and for a while i didn't know who to follow (I really really didn't want to follow like the Lakers or Cavs like everyone else who just follows the best team or player, i guess i just wanted to be a little hipster). then his like follow this new team, they called the oklahoma Thunder or something and i'm like okay i can be like their one and only supporter here and honestly didn't think they'll get this good this fast. Now so many of my casual basketball friends just started following Thunder (although one of them went to Huston along with Harden).
WestCrook
2013-06-26 21:02:29
Legendary_Dork Gobert at 12??? and I love Ledo at 29
okcjim
2013-06-26 21:02:39
They were drawing cards for the picks. Stupid
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:02:47
Sustainable Parameters Legendary_Dork yeah its all hear say . no telling
FallenOSIRIS
2013-06-26 21:03:43
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>My brother trying to get on the 48oz steak wall. Haha <a href="http://t.co/Iii8I7Booe">pic.twitter.com/Iii8I7Booe</a></p>— Steven Adams (@RealStevenAdams) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealStevenAdams/statuses/350056888693583872">June 27, 2013</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 21:04:16
Legendary_Dork Sustainable Parameters Either way, I don't think he's enough of a "character guy" for ultra conservative, judgmental Oklahoma City Thunder
FallenOSIRIS
2013-06-26 21:04:19
This is Steven Adams brother, odd choice of shirt.
thunder_from_down_under
2013-06-26 21:04:26
Aren't elginthunder aussies steal a lot of people from the NZ and claim them as their own (russell crowe is NZ born, but say he is ours ahha) ye would work, NZ is even further down under, and i really hope his is on the thunder to bring some thunder to the rim
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:04:43
Sustainable Parameters Legendary_Dork Ironic statement.
WestCrook
2013-06-26 21:05:33
FallenOSIRIS Who isn't a fan of Oklahoma City tho???
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 21:05:44
We have seen how Russ is a ripped dude for a point guard, I see "Muscle Chestbrook" as a brilliant nick name for Russell Westbrook.
elginthunder
2013-06-26 21:09:44
That shirt is MEAN though
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 21:11:01
TrueChamp how about "Big Rig" Westbrook ?
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 21:11:46
TrueChamp charity like
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:12:16
TrueChamp I just like Russ. Some names are sort of their own nicknames.
KD4theWin
2013-06-26 21:12:58
Sustainable Parameters TrueChamp I don't get it?  I said Big rig cause that how they call really strong poeple right?
TrueChamp
2013-06-26 21:25:56
Aren't I like Pelican meat
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:26:17
Aren't   What do you think their chants are going to sound like?
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:26:38
ThunderChick2010 Aren't Yes we Pelican.
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:26:57
Old Man Game ThunderChick2010 Aren't Use it on shirts when they make the playoffs in their dreams.
qrex
2013-06-26 21:27:40
https://twitter.com/dailythunder Breaking: Steven Adams' brother is wearing a Thunder shirt. RT https://twitter.com/RealStevenAdams: Yeap he's a Adams http://t.co/vndXZcHDh7
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:27:59
qrex SHAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAZED!
qrex
2013-06-26 21:28:12
Legendary_Dork qrex Who?
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:28:19
qrex seriously though, thats like a freaking 150oz steak lol
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:28:27
qrex Legendary_Dork  scroll downy~
S4TISF4CTION
2013-06-26 21:28:43
Legendary_Dork qrex I feel like I'm witnessing a before and after here and I love it.
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:28:56
qrex Used "a" instead of "an" Not elite. Don't draft him.
S4TISF4CTION
2013-06-26 21:29:00
qrex Legendary_Dork The new Sullinger.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:29:15
qrex Legendary_Dork   FallenOSIRIS posted earlier . . .
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:30:04
Old Man Game The way I decided who would be drafted in the top 11 for this question is as follows:I took the mock drafts from 6 draft sites (ESPN, Draft Express, SI, nbadraft.net, Fox Sports and SBNation)I gave each player points for being drafted, with more points for being drafted highThe 11 players with the most points were drafted in the order of highest point total to the lowest. The same method was used to determine the next 9 players listed.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:30:17
just so you ALLLLLLLL know,  Shabzzed is the new sullingered~..just saying. now..continue~
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 21:30:31
S4TISF4CTION Legendary_Dork qrex Exactly, leave the man alone! Watching the progress of a man eating a giant steak is more productive than any draft discussion we're going to have at this point.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 21:31:31
Old Man Game ThunderChick2010 Aren't Pelican you feel it?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:31:33
Legendary_Dork I'm surprised Sullinger'd is still a thing. So much a thing that it's now morphed into a new thing. Which means it'll be Shabazzed all year until next draft when someone else gets overposted. Is this really a tradition we want to continue forever?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:31:39
just so you ALLLLLLLL know,  Shabzzed is the new sullingered~..just saying. now..continue~
S4TISF4CTION
2013-06-26 21:33:03
just so you ALLLLLLLL know,  Shabzzed is the new sullingered~..just saying. now..continue~
qrex
2013-06-26 21:33:33
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling S4TISF4CTION Legendary_Dork qrex But.... But.... the shirt must have meaning...  it must ...
FallenOSIRIS
2013-06-26 21:33:52
ThunderChick2010 qrex Legendary_Dork Yay, I feel appreciated
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:34:27
FallenOSIRIS ThunderChick2010 qrex Legendary_Dork   Always!  :)
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:34:33
Jax Raging Bile Duct Legendary_Dork Shabazz'd might end tomorrow if Trey Burke drops to 21.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-26 21:34:51
ThunderChick2010  I REFUSE TO LIKE THIS   D:
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:35:24
Why am I so excited about tomorrow? I blame Patrick Beverly.
qrex
2013-06-26 21:35:31
OBoy Jax Raging Bile Duct Legendary_Dork Or whoever is drafted when Cleveland trades the pick
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 21:36:40
Old Man Game Guy just said Zeller is going 2 to Orlando though. Did dis dude just did dis?
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:37:57
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game I laughed my arse off at that. Same guy who said he didn't like Adams because Adams didn't ask him enough questions when he had a chance to meet with him. Probably didn't ask questions because he didn't know who the hell you were dude.
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:38:58
Steven Adams brother looks sketchy, pass.
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 21:39:39
qrex He looks big enough to play the 4, the 5, OR the 6.
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 21:39:58
OBoy I wouldn't let him run my company.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:40:41
OBoy He looks like shorter fatter Steven Adams.
MJOKC
2013-06-26 21:40:49
Let's all just hope that Kendrick Perkins is no longer on the OKC team after tomorrow.
greatwhitebuffalo
2013-06-26 21:40:55
OBoy Just think is has like 17 more of them...
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:41:31
Old Man Game I changed the channel after that.
qrex
2013-06-26 21:41:39
MJOKC Where is Cole?
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
2013-06-26 21:41:44
Old Man Game OBoy Maybe the enormity of the steak just makes him look shorter.
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:41:51
Why does the History Channel suck now? I hate all of these reality shows.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-26 21:41:59
qrex MJOKC Sacremento
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:42:14
Aren't I agree. What the hell happened to that channel?
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:42:34
MJOKC I like the attitude but we need to post nice things about Perk for the next 24 hours in case Phoenix's GM gets on here.
MJOKC
2013-06-26 21:42:39
Aren't  Every channel has turned into a "do it all channel" instead of being their true selves. It used to be these channels had their special niche. Now it seems they all have random reality shows and sitcoms on.
qrex
2013-06-26 21:43:26
OBoy MJOKC Do you mean things like "Perk, I guess it could be worse" ?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:43:40
Old Man Game Aren't   The History Channel as we knew it . . . history.
MJOKC
2013-06-26 21:43:41
qrex OBoy MJOKC  Perkins is a great human being.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:43:44
Aren't Because they didn't seize the opportunity to become a parody of their own self and make all their shows like ancient aliens.
C-Wil
2013-06-26 21:44:13
I do like Pawn Stars though.
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:44:45
qrex OBoy MJOKC "he's been a pro basketball player for 10 years"
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:45:16
MJOKC Aren't The only decent channel that involves subject matter similar to the old History and Discovery channels is the Science Channel. Unfortunately, they have a How It's Made marathon every 3 days it seems.
qrex
2013-06-26 21:45:32
OBoy qrex MJOKC Brings that veteran leadership?
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:45:48
ThunderChick2010 Old Man Game Aren't We should make a documentary spoof about this old channel that used to be which ran World War II documentaries all the time and was generally informative and educational.
S4TISF4CTION
2013-06-26 21:45:50
qrex OBoy MJOKC Pushups.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:46:00
Aren't http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/9/24/52e12ee9-795a-403c-85e2-545862a34392.jpg
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:49:19
So, whats gonna happen tomorrow?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:49:32
Lambchop  The draft, for one.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:50:09
Lambchop    Hey Lamby!
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:50:24
ThunderChick2010 Lambchop  Hey T-Chick!
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:51:00
Lambchop  ThunderChick2010   Nobody has called me that in about a year . . .   ;)
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:51:21
FezzyFreeRobinson The sooner this is pushed down teh page the better
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:51:34
Heres my first effort
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:51:40
What, in your opinion, is the worst case scenario for the draft?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:51:51
http://i.imgur.com/c4zRj.gif
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 21:52:15
FezzyFreeRobinson Shabazzed doesn't hit the wiki until it has gifs to accompany it. Them's just the rulez kiddo.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:52:28
ThunderChick2010 Ok, chat with you all tomorrow
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 21:52:28
Aren't Trading enough assets to get to number one and taking Len
El Prez
2013-06-26 21:52:36
I loved the History Channel. One of my degrees is actually is in history. This is why I feel very much in my comfort wheelhouse zone when from time to time I give my brutally accurate and frank opinions of the Cheney/Puppet W presidential legacy.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:52:53
FezzyFreeRobinson ThunderChick2010   Your bro, doe?
cfountain
2013-06-26 21:53:11
Aren't we still have Perk and we trade the 12 for heavily protected future picks.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:53:19
El Prez How many degrees does Presidente have?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:53:37
Lambchop  ThunderChick2010   It'll fall down (20 spots or so) soon enough . . .   :)
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:53:40
El Prez Aren't you a film historian too? I think the first post I ever read of yours was about the Oscar nominations a few years ago. I might be completely wrong.
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:54:10
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/doug-gottlieb/22533814/nba-draft-gottlieb-looks-at-overvalued-undervalued-players
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:54:35
Overvalued:  http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/players/1780656/jamaal-franklin, SG, San Diego State -- Thank you Kawhi Leonard. Whether consciously or subconsciously, the http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/page/SDGST/san-diego-state-aztecs alum has opened doors for Franklin in the eyes of NBA decision-makers, even though they are dissimilar players in every sense of the word. Leonard was a center growing up who is still learning to become a wing. Franklin played an undersized four his sophomore year and used his lack of size to his advantage, but struggled to be a college three this year. Leonard has always been a great rebounder with huge hands, Franklin is a good rebounder, but his numbers there were more a product of SDSU not having any big men of note at all. Franklin is actually older than Leonard, but smaller with much smaller hands and is nowhere near the on-ball defender that Leonard is. Keep in mind that Franklin could not get on the court when Leonard was at SDSU, and though he has improved, there is still a massive gulf between their their games.
OBoy
2013-06-26 21:54:59
Undervalued:  http://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/players/1780396/tony-snell, SG, http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/teams/page/NMEX/new-mexico-lobos -- Snell has learned the art of off the ball movement under Steve Alford, and though he may not have been as good as his former coach was in that realm in college, Snell has some tangibles that will translate perfectly to the NBA. Snell can guard a one, two, or three. He doesn't have a scorer's ego, which will help early on since he'll be used as a low-volume offensive weapon and Snell can also handle, pass and be a good teammate. He is a late bloomer with a ton of potential.
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:55:17
OBoy I read Gottlieb as Gottfried every time.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:55:17
OBoy I am not sold on Noel
El Prez
2013-06-26 21:55:33
Old Man Game El Prez Three. Business. History. Horticulture. I patterned my education after Teddy Roosevelt. I actually thought about becoming a history teacher until I saw what they got paid.
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 21:55:46
OBoy thank you thank you thank you Doug
Lambchop
2013-06-26 21:55:48
ThunderChick2010 Lambchop  no thanks to you! ;)
cfountain
2013-06-26 21:55:52
OBoy I'd love for us to get him or bullock.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 21:56:10
El Prez Old Man Game Wow three degrees. You are our learned scholar Prez.
El Prez
2013-06-26 21:56:39
Aren't El Prez I have no formal education in film making. Ask Brandon  who he reads on here tjough when he needs confirmation on a movie. Just sayin.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:56:44
El Prez Old Man Game   Oh, I could so envision a Falling Down moment, classroom style, if that had happened.  ;)
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 21:57:18
El Prez Aren't   I'm Brandon's source. #notreally  :)
Aren't
2013-06-26 21:58:04
FezzyFreeRobinson Aren't OBoy I can see it. Luckily, his dad isn't screaming at me while I read it.
El Prez
2013-06-26 21:59:42
Old Man Game El Prez Actually, by far, I'm the less educated member of my family. I'm the education black sheep in the family. My dad, number one in his law class. My mom--magna cum laude with a Masters in Psychology. My son about to finish his MBA at OU . I'm just a simple guy with a TSN model.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:00:41
El Prez I'd like to get a horticulture degree.
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:01:18
ThunderChick2010 El Prez Old Man Game My wife clearly pointed that out to me. She said, "If you strangle one of your students---you could go to jail for that."
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:01:37
Fezzy and eating
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:02:01
Aren't Olynyk at 12
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:02:45
Aren't According to the draft survey, it's taking plumlee or larkin at 12.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:02:53
I'm beginning to think ESPN Sportsnation fakes these polls. Is every single sports issue really that polarizing? It's almost always 49 states vote one way then the other 1 state all alone in the opposing direction.
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:03:34
Jax Raging Bile Duct El Prez I can pretty much give you the Latin botanical name of every plant you see in Oklahoma or Hardiness Zone 7. Everything is based on Hardiness Zones. OKC is in Hardiness Zone No.7.
greatwhitebuffalo
2013-06-26 22:03:44
Sustainable Parameters at least they have a good lookin blonde
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:03:51
Sustainable Parameters Just smart question asking really. Want to be polarizing, otherwise people wouldn't give a shit and they would stop voting.
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:04:23
ThunderChick2010 El Prez Aren't You wish.
Aren't
2013-06-26 22:04:27
Sustainable Parameters Making stories out of non-stories is what ESPN does for a living.
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 22:05:17
Oladipo. That is all
Grolgar
2013-06-26 22:06:05
I was a history teacher for 6 years before moving on to the college level. I did fine. It was enough to have Thunder season tickets and live downtown. ;)
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:06:48
greatwhitebuffalo Sustainable Parameters not the tv show, I mean just when they show a poll that's always what they call it. Like the draft show they just did, everybody state thinks Noel is #1 except for Kansas
Aren't
2013-06-26 22:07:05
I'd like Oladipo just for the fact that I could call him "The Home Dipo." It would fill the void K-Mart left.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:07:36
El Prez I'm an armature. I don't know any latin, but I know our zone. USDA actually released a new zone map recently, and OKC is right on the border of zone 7a and 7b. Just finished harvesting my summer wheat actually. Not a bad crop, and my sweet potatoes are doing so well. All this rain is making everything grow like everyone had a green thumb.
BlueLamp
2013-06-26 22:07:48
So what's been goin' on in my absence? More draft talk?
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 22:09:08
OKC_Longhorn I think I'm liking Oladipo more and more as a person than I do as a player with every passing day.  Took him off my big board, but wouldn't mind chilling with the dude
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:09:41
El Prez *amateur
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:09:50
RT DraftExpressGiannis Adetokunbo is in New York and will be attending the Draft tomorrow, without a Green Room invite. He must be feeling pretty good...
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 22:10:32
I just hope we draft his ass...Him and Russ would destroy other guards defensively
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:10:55
BlueLamp You were gone?
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:11:07
Jax Raging Bile Duct El Prez Cool. I have someone to talk  about  plants on here with . I wish we could get Maureen Dowd on this site to talk about Cheney and W during the dogs day of summer. I wish I had her cell number.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:12:12
El Prez Were you ever into hydroponics?
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 22:12:25
OKC_Longhorn meh maybe. I'm pretty unexcited about him honestly. Would much rather have Snell or Bullock at 29/32 than Oladipo in the top 15.
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 22:13:08
No thanks
BlueLamp
2013-06-26 22:14:42
Jax Raging Bile Duct BlueLamp Yeah. Lamp duties, you know? I have a house to brighten up.
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 22:14:46
Fezzy BlueLamp Never know, with all that "Royal Jelly" and "Thunder Culture", some people might argue that it's crazy enough that just might work
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 22:14:51
Noel = bust
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:14:56
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1044190_10151617195088463_100853962_n.jpg Mclemore wins
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 22:15:27
BlueLamp   You need someone to shed some light on what's been happening?  ;)
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:15:37
Jax Raging Bile Duct El Prez Not really.
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 22:15:54
Sustainable Parameters Dipo looking like a used car salesman reverand lol
Turfright
2013-06-26 22:16:07
Sustainable Parameters Westbrook just went all in for Mclemore.
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard
2013-06-26 22:16:12
Sustainable Parameters and as always, Adams just looks friggin huge
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:16:18
Sustainable Parameters Burke and Len lose.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:16:39
RT chadfordinsiderWorking on Mock 7.0.  Team A convinced: 1. Len 2. McLemore 3. Bennett  Team B: 1. Noel 2. Oladipo 3. Porter. It's going to be a long night
PNT
2013-06-26 22:17:56
Just looking at that photo you can tell you the alpha male is. Oladipo.
Turfright
2013-06-26 22:18:17
I am sold on pretty much everyone. Just draft anyone and I will be happy when we get to talk about trading them in a year.
PNT
2013-06-26 22:18:34
Damn auto correct.
OKC_Longhorn
2013-06-26 22:18:35
Oladipo The Gawd
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:18:45
PNT and that MCW pissed off a Jamaican woman and she put a root on him to shrink his head
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 22:19:34
El Prez ThunderChick2010 Aren't   But I have had some great movie talks with him . . .
Jooseppi
2013-06-26 22:19:50
Sustainable Parameters I think Adams has one shirt.
PNT
2013-06-26 22:19:54
Jeremy Lamb syndrome. Tiny head.
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:20:09
I'm not going to delve too deep into this draft, but I'll say this...Cole Aldrich was the No. 11 pick. We saw how that went. You NBA Draft gurus please explain to me how Steven Adams or any of these unpolished bigs are actually better than Cole Aldrich. I'd take the best player and just pray Perk can catch the ball next season. No way is Perk going to be amnestied or traded. Just economic reality.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:22:39
TheresABabyFaceUnderMyBeard Sustainable Parameters His hands are gargantuan
jeffori
2013-06-26 22:22:56
Reports of Alvin Gentry becoming the head assistant for Doc Rivers for the Clippers? What is this madness
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:23:26
jeffori it's official.
Aren't
2013-06-26 22:24:12
If Shabazz was available at 12, would you take him over Adams?
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:24:36
El Prez Steven Adams is going to be one of the best players available at 12, it's not like we would be reaching for him just because he's a big.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:24:52
Aren't according to the survey... no, but it's closer than most would think.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:25:02
Aren't i'd be tempted but no.
thunder_from_down_under
2013-06-26 22:25:03
El Prez serge was drafted at 24, he seems to be ok now
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:25:34
Aren't I rewatched the videos on Shabazz today and am not as down as i've been, still 27 assists for a full season is super scary.
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:26:02
OBoy El Prez Now wait a minute..if Steven Adams is at a minimum the 12th best player in this draft---why is there any interest whatsoever in this draft? I'm not trying to be snarky, but Steven Adams?
Aren't
2013-06-26 22:27:22
I wouldn't be disappointed necessarily. He doesn't pass at all, but I think he could maybe be a good player off of the bench in year or so.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 22:29:38
Memory Lane anyone? 2012: http://dailythunder.com/headlines/thunder-select-perry-jones-iii-with-the-28th-pick/ 2011: http://dailythunder.com/2011/06/thunder-select-reggie-jackson-24th-overall/
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:29:39
El Prez OBoy i don't know what to tell you, there's one draft a year it's going to be interesting to fans of teams with a bunch of picks regardless of who is in it.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:30:12
El Prez OBoy this is a bad draft but 12th picks are hit or miss is almost every draft, i don't think this year is much different.
jeffori
2013-06-26 22:30:19
Any updates on finding a new assistant coach? I trust that Presti will get players that best fit the team, but how about someone other than Brooks that can develop them?
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:31:36
ThunderChick2010 Which spot was Byron Mullens drafted in? He looked for like a player than Steven Adams. We saw how that went. I'm not so sure about these NBA draft gurus.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:32:22
This guy needs to be murdered.  Slolynck and two player sthat are basically twins?  http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2013/
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:32:56
ThunderChick2010 'More like a player than Steven Adams.' How far did Len take his team in the tournament?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-26 22:34:06
Lambchop  murdered? You've been watching too much dexter, or aaron hernandez.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:34:32
Jax Raging Bile Duct Lambchop  Yeah, a bit extreme, Ive been up since 3 am yester day
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:35:26
Jax Raging Bile Duct Lambchop  Nay, today, but 3.5 hrs shy of being up for 24
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:36:00
El Prez ThunderChick2010 NIT Semifinal I believe.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:36:02
Jax Raging Bile Duct Lambchop  Olynick seems liek a poor mans Aldrich
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:37:13
Lambchop  Jax Raging Bile Duct he's a taller Luis Scola, but he might be even less athletic.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:37:19
ThunderChick2010 Lambchop  Jax Raging Bile Duct Help what, push me over teh edge?
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:37:24
Old Man Game El Prez ThunderChick2010 Whoo...NIT Semifinal...here's a guy who's going to be an NBA impact player. Even OU made the NCAA Tournament.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:38:04
ThunderChick2010 Lambchop  Jax Raging Bile Duct Thanks for removing it
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 22:38:07
El Prez ThunderChick2010   If that's not rhetorical . . . I think 24th by Dallas.
Grolgar
2013-06-26 22:38:19
Adams is about as close to a guaranteed bust as I've seen.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 22:38:36
Lambchop  ThunderChick2010 Jax Raging Bile Duct   (You shouldn't tell people how to bug you . . .  ;)  )
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:39:01
El Prez Old Man Game ThunderChick2010 He did kick ass in that semifinal loss however, showing numerous flashes of brilliance for a 7'1" guy including doing a sort of Dr. J.-esque layin beneath the backboard reversing it to the other side of the rim.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:39:09
ThunderChick2010 Lambchop  Jax Raging Bile Duct Yeah, Im hip to that scene, usually much more guarded.  Again, no sleepy
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:39:10
ThunderChick2010 El Prez What spot was Serge drafted in? I very seldom ask rhetorical questions.
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:40:00
Old Man Game El Prez ThunderChick2010 Who were they playing against in this NIT Semi...Holy Cross?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 22:40:39
El Prez ThunderChick2010   24th
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:41:04
El Prez Old Man Game ThunderChick2010 Iowa. Big Ten. He had 16 points, 9 boards and 6 blocks.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:41:27
El Prez Old Man Game ThunderChick2010http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=330920120
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:41:38
This guy has us taking Larkin at 29, which Id be ok with, however, most mocks have him in the 16-22 range
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:41:47
This guy: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/06/26/5527158/mock-draft-jason-jones-sets-stage.html
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:42:42
El Prez Old Man Game ThunderChick2010 He was going against this kid from Iowa who coincidentally is also a legit 7 footer. Bit of rarity in NCAA BB for two 7 footers to go against each other. http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/61830/adam-woodbury
Podirk
2013-06-26 22:43:37
Late night Karasev post...you guys are gonna love him!
Air Bud
2013-06-26 22:43:48
I'm starting to wish that the Thunder didn't have any picks in this draft. Much like the Miami Heat, you can't screw it up if you don't have any picks.  Trade these picks for proven commodities that is how real teams win championships. It's not about the draft it is about FA's or sign and trades.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 22:44:12
Hey guys.  Mock drafts are fake.  And wrong.  Like really wrong.  All the time. It will be okay.
Podirk
2013-06-26 22:45:04
When you are almost at the lux tax with a pretty set rotation..it's how you do things.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:45:12
Podirk i'm 70% on board.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:45:55
Lambchop 7'5.5 standing reach and 5'10.75 wingspan (not even Vitruvian). OUCH! FWIW, I am the same height as him and have about a 7'10+standing reach and 6'7 wingspan, might even be able to touch 8ft on the standing reach with the way the NBA does it having guys stand there and stretch you out. Presti would love me outside of not being able to play basketball at a high level.
Podirk
2013-06-26 22:47:15
Where's the other 30?
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 22:47:17
Podirk I feel like he could be as good/bad as Martin so I would be okay with that.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:47:34
Air Bud drafting out of the lottery and in the 2nd round is not really a risk at all, its a free chance to get a rotation player.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:47:58
Podirk on 47 other bandwagons.
Air Bud
2013-06-26 22:48:00
There have been 27 players in the league arrested since the beginning of this year. That is why people think the NBA is full of a bunch of thugs and gangsters ......  Oh wait, that is the NFL not the NBA, but they wear helmets so nobody cares.
Podirk
2013-06-26 22:48:08
At a fraction of the price and like 10 years younger!
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 22:48:28
senseandsenescence What if your a 'mock' account... and your wrong?
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 22:48:32
Podirk No I mean in the future.  Not next year.
Lambchop
2013-06-26 22:48:52
Whats a mock?
Podirk
2013-06-26 22:48:58
Very diverse bandwagon portfolio..don't forget to rebalance yearly.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 22:49:15
Stringer Bell senseandsenescence I regularly mock.  But I don't draft.  So I can't be wrong.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:50:36
Lambchop  A mediocre UT QB. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chance_Mock
El Prez
2013-06-26 22:50:49
Lambchop  Mock = Faux
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:51:02
http://www.nfl.com/player/aaronhernandez/497244/careerstats poof
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 22:51:10
Lambchop http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mock All the more reason not to trust them.
Stringer Bell
2013-06-26 22:51:16
senseandsenescence Stringer Bell This seems a valid explanation.
Air Bud
2013-06-26 22:51:35
OBoy Air Bud But why not just package up all the picks and trade them for proven talent? Unless you have a top 5 pick you need to trade it away.
Podirk
2013-06-26 22:51:43
Ahh I got ya.. I think he can be better off ball right away. Good experience in Olympics and on overseas already at 19
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:52:18
Air Bud OBoy draft picks are cheap. Bottom line. Reddick or somebody would command full MLE at the least, likely more.
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:52:31
OBoy Move along public, nothing to see here. Just keep buying these 7 dollar beers at the games.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:52:34
Air Bud OBoy you won't get much for the 29th and 32nd pick, that would be a good strategy with 12.
OBoy
2013-06-26 22:53:46
Old Man Game OBoy how about another week of games?
Air Bud
2013-06-26 22:53:49
Old Man Game OBoy   NFL just keeps on tickin'  .. That league can do no wrong.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:54:20
Shane Larkin has an identical wingspan to JJ Barea. 5'10.75 Da Vinci would be disappointed
Air Bud
2013-06-26 22:55:18
OBoy Air Bud Then I hope that Okc is able to trade away the #12 pick (aka the Beard pick).
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 22:55:18
Sustainable Parameters I keep thinking he could be a JJ Barea if he can master Barea's ability to strategically flop. He's great in the PnR.
Aren't
2013-06-26 22:56:03
Sustainable Parameters I wish we had Barea on the team instead of Brewer.
Air Bud
2013-06-26 22:57:13
Old Man Game Sustainable Parameters And master JJ's ability to pull a Miss Universe as a girlfriend. That is better than KD's 180.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 22:57:47
Old Man Game Sustainable Parameters they say he is a pick and roll savant. I admit I have never seen him play so I'm no authority. Just the draft and Presti's preference for "long" guys has me temporarily obsessed with wingspan and reach, plus compared to an NBA player living out their dreams, it's one place I win. I have very long arms. The other 99.9% of life, yea they got that
Lambchop
2013-06-26 23:00:00
senseandsenescence Lambchop  I was totaly kdding.  Ive been mocking since 91
Old Man Game
2013-06-26 23:00:22
Sustainable Parameters Old Man Game He generated more offense out of the PnR than anyone else in the NCAA. https://twitter.com/DraftExpress2https://twitter.com/DraftExpress2/status/336549437235150848 Digging into the numbers for our annual stat articles. Shane Larkin led the NCAA in creating offense on the pick and roll, impressive.
Butterfingers
2013-06-26 23:02:29
Trade Perkins pleaseeeee
Lambchop
2013-06-26 23:04:26
http://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSOhttp://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSOhttp://twitter.com/SamAmicoFSO/statuses/350100524420444160 Possibility Cavs end up keeping all four picks and Thunder stay at 12. But it's definitely not for lack of trying on either's behalf. Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2XNzs83x4
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 23:04:27
Old Man Game Sustainable Parameters I think Jamaal Franklin was like 1.21ppp but they made a good point, versatile guards like him have a pretty bad track record if they aren't knock down shooters and their comparability formula had him most like Kyle Weaver. Also, Nate Robinson has a 6'1 wingspan and Will Bynum is 6'3.75 so Barea./Larkin might have the honor of the shortest arms since they started taking the measurement
OBoy
2013-06-26 23:05:23
Butterfingers great name
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-26 23:06:43
Aren't Not a chance.
f5alcon
2013-06-26 23:06:54
This girl i went to hs with is going to the draft to cover MCW for the local cuse tv station
Lambchop
2013-06-26 23:09:41
Night all, chat tomorrow when Perk is off our team
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-26 23:11:01
I was supposed to go. Very long story short, didn't work out. Next yr though. Groupon had tickets for 12$ too
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 23:11:20
perkins trade is so close yet so far. aaahhhhhhhhh
Podirk
2013-06-26 23:11:21
Have a good years sleep!
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 23:15:34
OKC_Longhorn NO
El Prez
2013-06-26 23:16:55
I'm off to sleep. My world got back on track today. Great day. Not a hitch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqBlIyFcjXs
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 23:19:31
El Prez   G'night Prez.
LAMBGOD
2013-06-26 23:24:03
Air Bud bang bang bang!!
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop
2013-06-26 23:29:44
tomorrow= watch ALL the draft videos
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 23:29:48
Crazy how quickly gobert zoomed up then crashed. Steven Adams just didn't strike me as that good this year. MCW doesn't seem like a top 10 pick.
LAMBGOD
2013-06-26 23:30:25
Sustainable Parameters i gota give this one to MCW
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 23:31:19
If Len and Withey were matched up Withey would have made him look silly. NBA is a whole different world though I guess.' Zeller needs to learn to play to his size and athleticism. He's always played much smaller. I thought he was 6 9 watching him play.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:33:03
long arm of the law There are only 8 guys (2 at each general position) that seem top 10 worthy to me.  That's why.  The other half of the lottery could be any of 10-15 guys.
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 23:34:05
senseandsenescence long arm of the law who are your guards. oladipo mcklemore? what about pg?
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:34:52
long arm of the law senseandsenescence I rate players as Guards, Wings, Forwards, Bigs.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:36:41
long arm of the law senseandsenescence  Burke/McCollum Oladipo/McLemore Porter/Bennett Noel/Len KCP/Zeller are guys that I like but don't quite trust.
OBoy
2013-06-26 23:39:01
senseandsenescence long arm of the law Are you keeping your evaluations to yourself?
long arm of the law
2013-06-26 23:39:57
senseandsenescence long arm of the law I haven't sold myself on Burke. I can't decide if people are captive of the moment he created for himself this year. McCollum has greatly impressed me with his intelligence.
Bryson
2013-06-26 23:41:26
Guys I'm excited
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:41:47
OBoy senseandsenescence long arm of the law I only tiered guys.  That's my top tier.  None of them really distinguish themselves in my book, but I would trust Noel the most; McLemore or Burke the least.  Len is a mystery but for a talent like that you have to spend the pick.
Tequila or Failure
2013-06-26 23:41:55
Stress fractures on big guys are dicey so Len is kinda scary to me. Maybe we take Pope, the Russian, or the Lehigh dude @ 12 & hope that either Dieng, the big Frenchie or the Brazilian are there @ 29 (or package 29 & 32 to move up a few spots to make sure). If I hear Olynik @ 12 for us I will not be happy.
OBoy
2013-06-26 23:43:39
senseandsenescence OBoy long arm of the law Any guys later in the draft that stand out to you as underrated or good value for where they'll be picked?
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:44:59
long arm of the law senseandsenescence People are definitely captivated by his championship game run, but if you look at how horrible most of the guys in this draft are at creating he looks pretty good.  He's one of the best dribblers and passers and a good shooter.  Young PGs general suck at D so that doesn't concern me.  The only question for me is will his athleticism be enough to still be able to break people down at the next level.  I think he'll be okay.
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-26 23:48:21
Bryson I've also read that in addition to aggressively trying to move up in the draft, the team is also trying to deal the #12 for two future first rounders. The collective letdown of DT if that was to happen would be devastating.
Bryson
2013-06-26 23:49:16
dollarbillrussell Bryson I'd be alright. Depending on who's picks we got.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-26 23:50:27
Bryson   My stomach hurts.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:51:41
OBoy senseandsenescence long arm of the law I don't follow mocks that much because they are generally abysmal after the top 5-10 picks.  Guys I like more than the general consensus are probably Green and Crabbe (both would be top 20 or so by my count).   I think Goodwin has really plummetted.  Some mocks have him going mid second and that seems really harsh.  If we could get him at 32 I think that's great.  He can't shoot, but he's good at quite a few others things.  I think of all of the non-Noel Kentucky guys he seemed to step up the most.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:53:53
OohWeeItsVelvetHoop I hope you have all day and an adderall/red bull/D5NS infusion set up.
OBoy
2013-06-26 23:54:55
dollarbillrussell Bryson Yeah everyone would hate it but two future 1sts are almost assured to be better than the 12th pick in this draft.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-26 23:59:36
OBoy senseandsenescence long arm of the law Basically I really value guys who can score.  I don't think there are too many guys that make it in the NBA who didn't get the the 15 pts per 40 pace adjusted without having a truly elite skill.  Even guys like Tony allen and Faried were putting up near 20 per 40 in college.   People are way too excited about guys who were role players in college.
Bryson
2013-06-26 23:59:43
ThunderChick2010 Bryson Then stop thinking about drafting Kelly Olynyk.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-27 00:03:20
OBoy senseandsenescence long arm of the law Even Rondo hit 14.7 while rebounding like a forward with good assists.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-27 00:04:41
dollarbillrussell Bryson not if we can get them unprotected. I'd love that, doubt it happens though since everybody wants in on Wiggins/Rangle/Gordon/Parker/Walker class. No thanks if its going to be like that Dallas pick, top 20 protected until after Jesus comes back
OBoy
2013-06-27 00:05:01
senseandsenescence OBoy long arm of the law I hadn't thought of that, that's a good point. I think it was Crabbe that reminded me a bit of Lamb, that could be nice at the end of the first.
OBoy
2013-06-27 00:07:09
If CJ McCollum doesn't have a long NBA career he should media train draft prospects, he's making himself millions with how well he interviews.  http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2013-NBA-Draft-Media-Day-Interviews-Part-One-4290/
Bryson
2013-06-27 00:07:52
OBoy He says he wants to be a writer. And Bill Simmons practically offered him a job in his interview.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-27 00:07:57
OBoy senseandsenescence long arm of the law I guess I could see that comparison, but Lamb is more comfortable with the ball.  I think Crabbe might be better off screens.
NicKadau
2013-06-27 00:14:14
Here's my opinion on the draft, not that it matters. Just a fan's take: #12 - Sergey Karasev #29 - Ricky Ledo #32 - Jeff Withey
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-27 00:18:55
Guys I have fallen in love with after watching/reading/generally obsessing over their draft info: Ben McLemore, Nerlens Noel, CJ McCollum, Steven Adams, Alex Len, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, Cody Zeller and Victor Oladipo.  I'd say my biggest remaining crushes are on McLemore, Noel and McCollum.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-27 00:20:20
TempBoy Brandon Bad news.  You only have 8 guys on your list.  Find 4 more so you can be happy tomorrow.
Bryson
2013-06-27 00:20:38
TempBoy Brandon I love KCP and Oladipo. I would be hyped for Noel and McLemore. The rest are eh. McCollum talks well but I'm not sure about him. I also like Karasev.
Bryson
2013-06-27 00:27:43
I took a nap earlier and had a dream KD got a restraining order against Joey Crawford so he couldn't ref our games.
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-27 00:32:05
Bryson TempBoy Brandon I haven't obsessed over Karasev yet. I'll do that tonight!
Bryson
2013-06-27 00:37:24
TempBoy Brandon Bryson Sniper.
OBoy
2013-06-27 00:39:18
Bryson TempBoy Brandon There's no more room left on the Snell bandwagon Brandon, don't even ask.
jeffori
2013-06-27 00:43:58
OBoy Butterfingers One of my favorite candy bars
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-27 01:08:19
Dan Gilbert may have just tipped his hand. https://twitter.com/cavsdan/following
Bryson
2013-06-27 01:10:02
Sustainable Parameters Shit.
Grolgar
2013-06-27 01:12:29
TempBoy Brandon I like the guys you like. If we keep the pick I want either McCollum, Zeller, or Karasev at 12.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-27 01:13:10
Sustainable Parameters Could you explain for those that ignore twitter?
Bryson
2013-06-27 01:13:49
senseandsenescence Sustainable Parameters He's following Victor Oladipo.
Grolgar
2013-06-27 01:14:31
I really love what Shane Larkin brings to the table, but you just can't take that in the teens (as some mocks show) with his size and length. Maybe in the 20s, but not the teens. Regardless of red flags I'm taking Muhammad all day over Larkin.
senseandsenescence
2013-06-27 01:16:45
Grolgar Size and length are overrated.  Presti doesn't think that, but it's generally true especially for height.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 01:20:24
I'm becoming more and more sold on Karasev.  https://twitter.com/KBergCBShttps://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/350061493414400000 Team execs say Russian Sergey Karasev could go as high as 12th to OKC. Karasev is not a "stash" player; he's looking to come to NBA now.
Grolgar
2013-06-27 01:21:58
Considering where they're projected to get drafted I really love the value in McCollum, Zeller, Shroeder, and even Muhammed (if he drops to around 20). I like several guys at the top of the draft and also Karasev, but I really hate Len, Olynyk, and Adams. After all this analysis I'm pretty excited to see what happens, but as others have said, I'm 100% fine if we trade out of this draft and position ourselves well down the road while giving minutes to Lamb and PJIII this season.
Grolgar
2013-06-27 01:22:56
ThunderUp12 I like him if McCollum and Zeller are gone, but he seems to have potential. I'd be happy with him.
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-27 01:28:18
Bryson Sustainable Parameters could also be a ploy to fool a team underneath him, the Timberwolves perhaps, to give up the house to move up to #1 like their entire draft cycle seems to have been. Also, seems like it was Washington who put out these rumors (which appear to be false looking at the pictures of him) that Bennett had gained 20 lbs.  Lots of gainsmenship surrounding the draft
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 01:29:06
Grolgar ThunderUp12 I know there is a bit of a negative with Karasev about athleticism but he's 19 and I don't think there is much focus on athleticism in Europe.  Still growing into his body and he'll be in an S&C program that will maximize his athleticism.  It'd be a tough decision if Zeller or McCollum were there but if its between Adams, Olynyk, and Karasev I go Karasev every time.
Bryson
2013-06-27 01:30:11
What happened to late night DT...no one is ever around in the late hours of the night with me.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-27 01:32:34
Bryson   I was just thinking this is almost like NBA Christmas Eve . . . reminds me of when I was little and my parents said we kids had to go to bed so Santa could bring our presents.  :)
Bryson
2013-06-27 01:33:25
ThunderChick2010 Bryson Okay, perfect. I was always the kid that would sneak down stairs at 3 A.M.
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-27 01:42:50
ThunderChick2010 Bryson Seriously. I've been semi-obsessed with this draft ever since Russ got injured. And the big day is almost here finally! I really hope that Santa brings us a brand new McLemore or McCollum, even a Noel, in the spirit of the season. I've been such a good boy this year! I'm still upset about that year that he left 6'10' of Cole in my stocking. :(
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 01:43:28
Grolgar In Pelton's draft rater he rates at #10 and as the last player with a 2.0 WARP which Pelton says translates into an NBA starter.
jeffori
2013-06-27 01:44:04
Attention DT: If you could eat only one MEAL (entree, side dish, beverage) for the rest of your life, what would it be and why?
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-27 01:44:09
Late-night DT confession: I don't want Perk to get traded. Or Reggie . . . or Lamb . . . or anyone else.
Bryson
2013-06-27 01:45:12
ThunderChick2010 Blasphemy
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-27 01:45:53
TempBoy Brandon ThunderChick2010 Bryson   Haha . . . a lump of cole.  If our pick depends on you being good . . . I'm not so sure about this . . .   ;)
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 01:46:34
I know Presti is reading this so if it comes down to Karasev, Adams or Olynyk PLEASE take Karasev.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-27 01:48:16
Bryson ThunderChick2010   I'm sure others feel the same way . . . they're just sleeping at the moment.  ;) When I wake up in the morning, I fully expect to see a dozen likes on that comment.   #dreaming
AIaska
2013-06-27 01:49:05
ThunderChick2010 I'd be sad to see perk go but it's time if the right deal is there
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-27 01:49:08
ThunderChick2010 TempBoy Brandon Bryson Christmas draft day puns FTW! :) And yeah, if our pick depends on my naughty/nice level, we'll be getting a big "meeehhhhh". Hope everyone is happy with Olynyk! Sorry, guys!
TempBoy Brandon
2013-06-27 01:50:54
ThunderChick2010 I would be really torn if we traded Perk. I love the guy's personality, toughness, loyalty and mentality so much. I'm totally attached to him. But I feel like we'd be more likely to win a championship without him.
Aren't
2013-06-27 01:54:30
Reading scary unsolved mysteries was a bad idea before bed...
jeffori
2013-06-27 01:55:30
"Via ESPN: The Oklahoma City Thunder have agreed to send Head Coach Scott Brooks, Center Kendrick Perkins, and Guard Derek Fisher to the Orlando Magic in exchange for Center Nikola Vucevic and a 2014 first-round draft pick." And then I woke up from my dream.
ThunderWins
2013-06-27 01:56:56
jeffori Thunder draft cole aldrich 2.0
AIaska
2013-06-27 01:58:59
jeffori Tacos, celery and ranch, milk.  They're delicious and I wouldn't get tired of them. Or steak.... mmmm steak. Now I'm hungry
ThunderWins
2013-06-27 02:01:12
jeffori My other dream - Thunder draft Shaq 2.0 instead
AIaska
2013-06-27 02:06:32
I'm for sure in the minority but I'm not too excited about this draft. Normally the 12th pick is exciting but unless we make a move I feel like we draft a couple of meh guys who never really see the floor
Bryson
2013-06-27 02:08:56
AIaska Oh you're right. This draft is crap. Its still fun.
OBoy
2013-06-27 02:12:25
Just realized if we draft Len he won't play in summer league, not getting on the bandwagon.
AIaska
2013-06-27 02:14:05
Bryson AIaska I guess even "bad" drafts usually pump out some great prospects. 2011 for instance
Bryson
2013-06-27 02:15:05
OBoy I'm cutting you off on bandwagons anyway. You've had enough.
AIaska
2013-06-27 02:15:51
OBoy If I get drafted I'm available for summer league. Get on the Alaska wagon before it's full
OBoy
2013-06-27 02:20:38
Bryson OBoy sorry but if you think i'm bad now Shawn Marion has until Saturday to decide on his player option for next year, if he declines i'm going to be out of control.
Bryson
2013-06-27 02:20:56
OBoy Bryson MKG MKG MKG
Bryson
2013-06-27 02:21:05
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OBoy
2013-06-27 02:23:10
AIaska OBoy I wonder if you could convince a team to let a polar bear play in summer league, there's no foul limit.
OBoy
2013-06-27 02:26:08
these are hilarious  http://nba.si.com/2013/06/26/nba-draft-2013-risk-reward-alex-len-shabazz-muhammad/
OBoy
2013-06-27 02:28:05
Shabazz upside: Adidas is vindicated. Ben Howland is vindicated. His sister, Asia, wins Wimbledon. Shabazz downside:  Adidas starts sending him pairs of Nikes. His sister draws Serena Williams in every WTA tournament for which she qualifies.
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-27 03:32:09
Grolgar  heres a bust, theres a bust, everwhere theres a bust bust,   thats your  theme song. seriously what is your deal?  what makes you think these guys are gonna be bust, while noel *whom you love and has had 2 acl injuries*  IS GOING TO BE A STAR?
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-27 03:34:58
lol at some of you saying len is dicey cause of his stress fracture. its going to heal, its nothing. now noel has had not 1 but 2 acl injuries!!!!!!!! BUT HES TOP PICK!!!!!!  and weights 206lbs.....and isnt really a center...........yeah....color me surprised that im NOT impressed by this kid
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 04:02:21
Presti's moving into the top 5 to make sure Dubljevic is still there.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-27 04:02:54
The Best News i could hear as a thunder fan. OKC has traded Scott brooks to the Washington Wizards for pick 3 in the 2013 NBA draft. OKC Select Otto Porter Jr from Georgetown
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 04:05:49
Come Home Professor X What about "Durant solves world hunger and poverty, brings an end to all wars and unites the world in a golden era of peace, love and basketball" ?
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 04:07:53
Come Home Professor X Also, RINGZZZZZZ
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-27 04:08:25
Jooseppi Come Home Professor X Nah. Because then some serious Armageddon Stuff would be about to go down and we'd miss out on next season.
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 04:11:49
Come Home Professor X Jooseppi Lockout wounds are still fresh, I see.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-27 04:28:32
My Ideal Thunder Lineup for next year PG Russ, Reggie, ??? either a rookie or vet SG Xavier Henry, Jeremy lamb, Archie Goodwin SF Otto Porter Jr, Thabo Sefolosha PF Kevin durant, Nick Collision, Perry JonesC Serge Ibaka, hasheem Thabeet, Daniel Orton
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 05:49:58
Reposting for Jax ---------------------------------------- Super spamming repost alert... It's that time again! Time for a Jax Survey. This one is going to rank DT's collective draft board, given that some players have been drafted already and we have to select from the rest. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/T8RZKJT The way I decided who would be drafted in the top 11 for this question is as follows:I took the mock drafts from 6 draft sites (ESPN, Draft Express, SI, nbadraft.net, Fox Sports and SBNation)I gave each player points for being drafted, with more points for being drafted highThe 11 players with the most points were drafted in the order of highest point total to the lowest. Let's see who we all want after all the good players have  been taken already! Yay!
Podirk
2013-06-27 06:09:24
You are on th bandwagon.. Welcome!! Karasev Karasev Karasev!!!
Podirk
2013-06-27 06:10:13
Nothing good happens after 2AM
Podirk
2013-06-27 06:12:03
Santa and Noel :)
SantaMenon
2013-06-27 06:28:34
Jooseppi Steven Adams, Trade, Projects.........everyone else.....Olynyk, Plumlee.
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-27 06:42:14
How old are you?
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 06:54:52
It's finally today (well tomorrow for me). Let's just see how this all goes
Old Man Game
2013-06-27 07:02:51
MrRaysian Damn, so you get both the draft, AND a Friday? Sweet.
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 07:07:15
Old Man Game MrRaysian days don't matter to me anymore now that uni exams are over. everyday is sunday
Old Man Game
2013-06-27 07:21:25
They just showed Chad Ford's mock draft with Carter Williams going 6th to the Pelicans. MCW will be available at 12. If you're them, why wouldn't you trade pick 6 for pick 12 and cash?
DXL
2013-06-27 07:24:23
Chris Mannix: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html. http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#EllHRceGOA652V72.99
kfmsooner
2013-06-27 07:24:26
Ken Berger: Team execs say Russian http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html. http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html Read more at http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#O7BBEOY50MIu7Psc.99
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 07:29:32
Old Man Game because there's no guarantee the 6 teams in between won't take him, and if the Pelicans really wanted him they wouldn't take that risk
kfmsooner
2013-06-27 07:34:31
GMs wants to get out of this draft and that includes Billy King, who told Kerber there's a 60 percent chance he moves the 22nd pick. Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz2XQ4EOPjR
Old Man Game
2013-06-27 07:39:44
MrRaysian Old Man Game Yeah true. 6 still seems high for him.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 07:45:50
ThunderChick2010 We ditch Perk this year and drinks are on me
DXL
2013-06-27 07:47:03
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/unknown-ledo-takes-long-nba-draft-article-1.1383612?localLinksEnabled=false Long Ricky Ledo story. Left his local RI high school after winning state championship as sophomore. Transferred to St. Andrews to play with MCW, then South Kent, then Notre Dame Prep. Rob Mclananghan, who trains Westbrook and Rose, calls him a class act. The NCAA had Ledo as a partial qualifier, and he attended classes and practices at Providence. He basically had a redshirt year, and would have been eligible if he had decided to come back as a sophomore. Didn't the same thing happen to Enes Kantor at Kentucky? Practiced with the team, never cleared by the NCAA, then went third overall in the draft.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 07:47:55
DXL He'd be great, I'd love him. Do I think the Thunder will draft him? No, because of attitude nonsense being spewed out.
DXL
2013-06-27 07:50:56
elginthunder DXL Presti drafted Latavious in the second round, who also didn't have a sterling academic career and didn't qualify for the NCAA.
duhsweetness
2013-06-27 07:51:05
jeffori Taco Bell
Podirk
2013-06-27 07:51:18
Double down?? That is soooo Presti...
Podirk
2013-06-27 07:52:15
Presti taking someone we say he def won't take...that is soooo Presti...
elginthunder
2013-06-27 07:55:28
Podirk DXL I'm holding out hope for sure. Dude can score, could relieve the pressure on Lamb
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 07:55:37
so Carl Landry is a FA... any way of convincing to get him at MLE? even though his said he wants to stay there... i'd say there's a 3% chance
Podirk
2013-06-27 07:56:23
3% chance but it still happens?? That is soooo Presti...
Durienne
2013-06-27 08:06:39
d21 Dwight Howard...destroyer of teams.
Podirk
2013-06-27 08:07:34
Presti, knowing Hardens greatness trades him where he knows they will sale the farm for Howard and ruin the team??? That is soooo Presti...
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:08:25
d21 literally few seconds too slow. damn i suck at this twitter stuff hopefully he goes to Dallas instead. i think Howard in Houston under McHail and the Beard. that's only if he doesn't destroy the team which he has been really good at recently
DXL
2013-06-27 08:09:13
d21 Dallas with great incentive to get rid of the 13th pick. Houston with great incentive to get rid of Thomas Robinson.
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:10:02
DXL d21 so this just makes me wonder. what is the Hawks going to do with all that cap space?
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 08:11:56
If we draft a PG/Sg combo guard  I want http://www.nbadraft.net/players/cj-mccollum.. I think Michael Carter williams will need to work very hard on his jumpshoot to be effective in the NBA..they will offer him the shot and take away passes and limmited him on facilitating.. http://www.nbadraft.net/players/cj-mccollum can play the point, like Steph Curry, he is such a good shooter that he gets lot of respect for his shot and can take advantadge of that..he is quick..fast on the fastbreak..smart player..he did good in college playing PG..thing is he was completele alone doing everything himself..you can't knock him for that..he had to score more than facilitate
kfmsooner
2013-06-27 08:13:09
I really like Zeller. I think all it would take is moving to 9 to get him...
Podirk
2013-06-27 08:14:15
Move from 12 to 9 just. Y asking politely?? That is soooo Presti...
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 08:14:37
MrRaysian DXL d21 to tell you the truth if I am Hawks gm with that amount of cap space I'll offer bynum a contract and pray he stops bowling...  it coold be a boom or bust... bust.. buster !!
Podirk
2013-06-27 08:14:38
by...
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:15:35
d21 MrRaysian DXL his just looking at me like "Are you kidding me? "
duhsweetness
2013-06-27 08:16:22
d21 Obligatory http://www.terezowens.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/620346389.jpg
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:16:34
Podirk setting trends are hard. You'll get there one day
Podirk
2013-06-27 08:17:59
Or not either way...distractions on D Day
duhsweetness
2013-06-27 08:18:44
Just in case you needed 20 more minutes of listening to Coach Nick lisp and looking at albino Adam from Workaholics: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdOcF4XZdFo
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 08:19:21
http://sports.yahoo.com/photos/27-players-arrested-since-the-super-bowl-slideshow/
DXL
2013-06-27 08:19:46
Jose Calderon is going to be a sneaky good free agent pickup for somebody. Led the NBA is 3-point shooting percentage last season at 46% (4 attempts a game). 7.1 assists and shoots 90% from the line. All that for $3 million per year?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2013-06-27 08:20:47
There's only room for 7 more people in the survey. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/T8RZKJT
Durienne
2013-06-27 08:23:01
Jax Raging Bile Duct Now 6...
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 08:23:15
Jax Raging Bile Duct survey monkey limits responses?
Lasch
2013-06-27 08:23:43
d21 Going to be hard to stop looking at twitter feeds today.  Surely some trades are going to happen.  Please.
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 08:24:20
Jax Raging Bile Duct Oh well I've taken it 3 times now. Sorry suckers.
DXL
2013-06-27 08:31:56
McCollum's work ethic is unbelievable. When asked how he improved his shooting percentages his senior year he says he broke down on video every shot he took junior year. Where he took the shot, what kind of shot it was, and whether it missed long or short. Wanted to see why he was missing, and then change his game. I'd be stunned if he didn't have a solid 10 year plus career in the NBA.
BallSoHard
2013-06-27 08:33:41
According to one league source, several other suitors will make pitches for Smith and Copeland. Smith has received early interest from the Detroit Pistons and Phoenix Suns, and Copeland's list includes the Dallas Mavericks, Indiana Pacers, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Oklahoma City Thunder, Toronto Raptors, Utah Jazz and Washington Wizards. Chris Copeland anybody???
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:33:56
Why do you say 3 mil a year?
DXL
2013-06-27 08:35:04
Also his trainer Jay Hernandez says he's the natural leader among the group of potential draft picks he's working out with on Long Island: MCW, Muscala, Bullock, etc.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:35:20
I think McCollum will go to sac. We won't move up that high to get him. KCP is much more likely if we draft aguard.
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 08:35:43
BallSoHard  Yeah, saw that. Somebody like NO will offer him more than he's worth to the other teams. Really interesting though.
DXL
2013-06-27 08:37:39
okcjim Amin El-Hassan, ESPN Insider, estimated what each guy would get in free agency. His estimate for Calderon was 3 years, 9+ million.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:39:10
Iguadala bolting after one year, Bynum bolting after one year (and not 1 minute played), Howard bolting after one year. Who would have thought Orlando would be the clear winner of that trade?
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 08:39:25
Jooseppi BallSoHard I guess you take a flyer on him if you think we'd have been better off keeping Green.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:40:04
I thought he tweeted last night he had a 7.2 with 5 changes already.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:40:35
29 or 32 stash
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 08:42:34
long arm of the law Jooseppi BallSoHard I think there's room for a real SF on the roster so that you can go small without going 3-guard. Somebody like Copeland fits the bill, but he might get something $6 million from a bad team.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:43:02
No way he gets 16 as a fa. Maybe hoping for 3 or 4 yr around 9-10 per?
BallSoHard
2013-06-27 08:43:04
Ibaka for LMA? Possible?
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:44:32
okcjim It's one of those rare trades that makes every team involved worse
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:46:16
It's def tempting. If we were more solid at center I would feel more comfortable with it.
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:46:59
okcjim i think LMA can play the 5 better than ibaka
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 08:47:37
okcjim That's fucked up, that really sucks that a team would renege on him...
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 08:48:20
i suddenly have so much time on my hands and no idea what to do with is. i've been literally just waiting for someone to post here of possible news about trades or guaranteed picks/
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:48:31
He's probably stronger just not near as active when I've watched him on the defensive end.
DXL
2013-06-27 08:48:38
BallSoHard Serge is a better player. And that's probably the opinion across the NBA. Much better shooter and much more of a defensive force.
Lasch
2013-06-27 08:48:43
d21 Burke/Ledo DXL doing backflips.
duhsweetness
2013-06-27 08:49:19
HP dudes are in love with Bullock's game. I'm also pretty partial to it: http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2013/06/26/so-you-think-you-can-draft/
Lasch
2013-06-27 08:49:36
d21 LaschAnalysis: The Thunder have a lot of interest in Steven Adams, but in this scenario, he's gone. Sergey Karasev and Kelly Olynyk are other possibilities, but if Burke is here, he might be tough to pass on. With Russell Westbrook coming back from injury, Burke would give them a game-ready point guard who could play right away. This is a situation where the team simply can't pass on the talent.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:50:22
chadfordinsider Chad Ford It's 2 am. Phone still ringing. Already made 5 adjustments to new Mock Draft. We're up to 7.2 and it hasn't even been published yet. about 7 hours ago
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:51:39
Burke at 12 ledo at 29. Doesn't do much for me
Lasch
2013-06-27 08:52:50
okcjim I think they would be able to tear up the D-League this year at least.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:53:06
Trey BurkeOklahoma City Thunder via Toronto Raptors COLLEGE: MichiganAGE: 20HT: 6-1WT: 187POS: PG Analysis: The Thunder have a lot of interest in Steven Adams, but in this scenario, he's gone. Sergey Karasev and Kelly Olynyk are other possibilities, but if Burke is here, he might be tough to pass on. With Russell Westbrook coming back from injury, Burke would give them a game-ready point guard who could play right away. This is a situation where the team simply can't pass on the talent. PLAYER CARD
DXL
2013-06-27 08:54:14
Lasch d21 Burke's overrated. If Michigan had gotten knocked out by a freakishly hot shooting opponent in round 2 of the tournament, Burke wouldn't be a lottery pick. Undersized guard with mediocre athleticism. NCAA tournament success is a terrible predictor of NBA ability.
okcjim
2013-06-27 08:54:35
Tony mitchell not in his first round at all. I'd take him at 29 over ledo for sure (but you already knew that).
Loud City Jimmy
2013-06-27 08:55:55
d21 can't see us taking Burke with Shabazz on the board.
Lasch
2013-06-27 08:56:07
d21 okcjim 28/22/unknown
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 08:56:30
DXL Lasch d21 in Burke's defense he was fantastic all season and very good as a freshman.  Dude was NPOY, he wasn't just great in the tourney.  Pick still doesn't make much sense. Hope they got Karasev at 12.
DXL
2013-06-27 08:57:30
ThunderUp12 DXL Lasch d21 Was Burke projected as a top 10 pick before the NCAA tournament?
Lasch
2013-06-27 08:58:19
Loud City Jimmy d21 If Burke does fall to 12, I think it would mean more suitors to trade out/back.
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 08:58:23
DXL ThunderUp12 Lasch d21 D.J. Augustin volume 2...
Sustainable Parameters
2013-06-27 08:58:31
http://youtu.be/4CqURNU8tjo
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 08:59:07
DXL ThunderUp12 Lasch d21 I think so.
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 08:59:23
Sustainable Parameters Great play by Burke, but he lacks the lightning first step of other successful point guards his size..
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 09:00:01
DXL ThunderUp12 Lasch d21 I don't want Burke either way but I'm just saying he didn't just blow up in the tourney. You can't win NPOY without having a fantastic season.
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:00:32
Shabazz is free falling
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:01:06
I still wish we could get Al Forouq Aminu
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 09:01:29
d21 ThunderUp12 DXL Lasch did he move up during the season or just after the tourney? Could have sworn he was in or at just outside(like 11) the top 10 all season, just jumped into the top 5 after the tourney.
AIaska
2013-06-27 09:02:32
long arm of the law Isn't it a little early in the morning for such tom foolery?
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:02:50
He makes 1.6 more next year and 2.7 more the year after. If we drafted a rookie center that was adequate in year 2 we could amnesty perk next offseason and it would work out.
DXL
2013-06-27 09:04:07
Sustainable Parameters Siva is small, Burke is small. Too small guys met at the top of the mountain.
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 09:05:26
d21 I have already targeted him at 29 or 32 too much potential and very young to pass on
Loud City Jimmy
2013-06-27 09:05:33
d21 okcjim That seems so low for him in my opinion
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 09:06:09
KD4theWin d21 WHO?
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 09:06:47
DXL I'm loving Karasev right now(son of former player/coach so he's going to know how to play) but McCollum is definitely intriguing. They drafted Jackson before Maynor's 3rd year, knowing they wouldn't be able to afford Maynor, maybe the same thing happens this year.  I'd be surprised if he fell out of the top 10 though.
Loud City Jimmy
2013-06-27 09:07:06
Watched the NBA TV mock draft last night...happened to turn it on at the 10th pick & stayed up for ours at 12...they had us taking Gobert.
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 09:07:09
GREENE1148 KD4theWin d21 goodwin
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:08:18
https://twitter.com/NBARUMORShttps://twitter.com/NBARUMORS/status/350248792236359680 LaMarcus Aldridge would not only welcome a trade from the Blazers, but he hopes for one, believing the city is too boring and small.
Loud City Jimmy
2013-06-27 09:08:28
d21 Loud City Jimmy That's who Ford has us taking in his mock as well with the 29
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:08:36
Forget any idea of LMA ever coming to OKC haha
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:09:04
AIaska long arm of the law I'd happily give up 29 and PJ for him and Darius Miller
BrightFuture aka Presti do your magic
2013-06-27 09:09:12
my wish list.dont know about the order but I believe we woud use them in OKC ZelerAdams Joanis giakumbo Len (?) Karasev Dieng Snell
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:10:10
Fords latest 1noel 2odalipo 3porter 4mclemore 5len 6mcw 7mccollum 8bennett 9kcp 10adams 11zeller 12burke 13karasev 14noguiera 15larkin 16olynyk 17antetokaounmpo 18muhammad 19bullock 20plumlee 21canaan 22dieng 23schroeder 24franklin 25hardaway jr 26crabbe 27snell 28gobert 29ledo 30green
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 09:10:24
d21 Kentucky was a mess last year. Harrow was supposed to run the team but he was awful. They tried Goodwin at point and it was clear he either wasn't ready to run a team and didn't have great feel for the position.  Add in Poythress not being as good as advertised(MKG-lite) and Noel going down and it was a rough year for a guy that was supposed to come in and be shooter/scorer.
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 09:10:47
elginthunder If he ever comes here he will average as many points as ibaka or maybe 15 vs ibakas 13 and rebound the same..and don't have even half the defensive impact Ibaka has..so If we have to trade ibaka then no thanks
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:10:57
There are better prospects available.
DXL
2013-06-27 09:11:01
Then again, Burke is probably good value at 12. What's his downside? Very solid backup point guard for the next 10 years.
PNT
2013-06-27 09:11:06
I would be unhappy with Trey Burke. If he is picked that makes Reggie expendable immediately. Having to make another deal to balance our team might not be good.
Turfright
2013-06-27 09:11:56
GREENE1148 okcjim Probably the Cavs.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 09:12:18
I'd rather have Karasev at 12. Big wing with shooting and play-making ability. Son of a former player/coach so he knows how to play the game. Thunder don't just need more shooting, they need more shooting w/ size.
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:12:27
So we're using usage as a justification for subpar play?  What about Olynky with a higher usage and much greater production?
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:12:31
Wow priorities are good.
f5alcon
2013-06-27 09:12:45
Does the draft start at 6 or just the pre coverage?
Durienne
2013-06-27 09:13:01
elginthunder He can go to some big, glitzy city and lose there instead.  At least he won't be bored.
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:13:12
or Shabazz
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:14:03
or Pierre jackson and KCP.  Silly argument to me.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:14:11
okcjim That would truly shock me
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:15:39
6:30 I think
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:16:36
Just not really a need. Jackson can play the 2 and lamb the 3 I guess
Lasch
2013-06-27 09:17:11
d21 Lasch okcjim 35
Turfright
2013-06-27 09:17:51
Man I hope we do draft Ledo so Durant can teach him how to be Not Nice instead of a thug.
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:18:28
http://goo.gl/MnuLe
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 09:19:21
okcjim Ibaka is the top defensive PF in the NBA, leading shot blocker..  aldridge in okc wouldn't get as many shots and touches as he gets in portland..he will socre..yes..but not enough to compensate his defensive production.. Ibaka gives the team the Defense and offense they need from him..he will continue to get better is only 23 years old...next year he could score 13-16 points a game..added to his inmense defensive production.. there is no way in hell I'll make that trade..if we tarde Ibaka we loose half our defense...who is going to cover up perk?
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:20:24
Not really but a backup 3 that can shoot would come closer to filling a need. Fishers minutes and role that is an actual 3.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-27 09:20:33
PNT Having 3 good PG's is a bonus. And Having an NBA level PG running the D League team helping players develop is priceless
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 09:22:04
d21 DXL There is no e on Augustin's name.. lol
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:22:46
Can't believe nobody wants Perkins.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 09:25:29
okcjim there are, but I don't think Goodwin is as bad as everyone makes him out to be. Crappy situation last year.  I also don't think he was good as everyone projected him to be going into the season though.
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:25:52
It would show up most against teams that are closer to us. If we could score in the post against Miami that would be very helpful. Serge is the best shot blocker but far from the best defender. His iso d is average. Collison has been better at that.
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-27 09:27:52
MrRaysian   Good morning/night, MrRaysian.  :)
DXL
2013-06-27 09:28:00
d21 Trey Burke looks like he's 15.
Come Home Professor X
2013-06-27 09:28:57
I we manage to move up in the draft and trade perk I'm Changing my Username to Sam "Hanibal Smith" Presti.  http://youtu.be/FPQlXNH36mI
Oklahoma City thunder
2013-06-27 09:30:06
I love it when a plan comes together
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
2013-06-27 09:34:18
http://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2013/6/27/4469672/your-thunder-2013-nba-draft-cheat-sheet This article makes my head hurt.
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:34:46
I could warm up to Burke if it happened. Similar to Olynyk and Zeller he has defficencies but you know he can play (instead of drafting a guy you hope will develop into a player).
DXL
2013-06-27 09:39:12
d21 Adams says "I dunno" about as often as Perk says "at the end of the day."
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:39:27
I agree
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
2013-06-27 09:40:41
d21 He needs to work on the "not turning over the ball while dribbling" move.
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 09:41:24
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) d21 His handle is really incredible for a guy almost 7 feet tall...
TrueChamp
2013-06-27 09:42:11
d21 http://twitter.com/SLAMonline/status/350260053372186626/photo/1
Lost Ones
2013-06-27 09:42:11
why not kareems? nice to hear regardless but i wish he'd work on defense  and turnovers not his scoring
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 09:42:13
ThunderChick2010 MrRaysian I'm pulling an all nighter, fuck it, can't sleep because of the draft anyway lol! :P
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:43:06
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) That blog is the WORST. SB Nation once again proving how terrible it is. No idea why they sponsor that guy.
Lost Ones
2013-06-27 09:43:13
how do you know he is a "thug"
Lost Ones
2013-06-27 09:44:10
good article i agree, he's young and talented
DXL
2013-06-27 09:44:14
If Sam Presti offered Ibaka for Aldridge's disgruntled self this morning Neil Olshey would pull the trigger.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:44:29
TrueChamp d21 I'm just waiting to see the away colorway. Not trying to buy Sonic colors
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)
2013-06-27 09:45:01
elginthunder D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) "So, the 2013 NBA Draft is upon us, and it is the http://www.sbnation.com/nba/teams/oklahoma-city-thunder most important draft since 2009. They now find themselves with a lottery pick, and a flawed team that fell far short of expectations." No wayyy, one of our best players got hurt. "They also could use a legitimate second string point guard, since Jackson hasn't exactly proven himself as a guard yet, but I doubt Presti will make any moves in that regard unless they fall in his lap." Uh.....wat? Jackson has more than proved himself. Maybe not as a starter, but the kid has some chops.
Lost Ones
2013-06-27 09:45:30
Idk about straight up but, we'd win a championship with that roster even with perk garbage self
ThunderChick2010
2013-06-27 09:47:06
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) d21   Well, look who's here . . .   ;)
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:47:24
Depends if they want picks or vet.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:47:28
DXL Big Ibaka fan, but I reluctantly agree. Post moves > more jump shooting
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:49:26
Not sure minnesota would be a place he would do well.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:49:33
[coke head] elginthunder DXL And catch
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:50:10
He can also score with his back to the basket.
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 09:51:35
okcjim Wasn't Minnesota supposed to be trading 26 for Marshon Brooks?
DXL
2013-06-27 09:51:51
Aldridge: 53% true shooting percentage Ibaka: 61.2% true shooting percentage Aldridge is just not that efficient, though we all like him because he kills the Thunder.
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:52:36
Whoever drafts Giannis Adetokunbo will be picking him to come to the NBA right away, teams tell me. He has no interest in being stashed. 9:49am - 27 Jun 13
Lasch
2013-06-27 09:53:09
okcjim Well that explains why his promise went away.
nomad
2013-06-27 09:54:41
https://twitter.com/DraftExpresshttps://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/350265651757203456 Oklahoma City is exploring drafting and stashing a European prospect at 12, but none of Schroeder, Karasev or Adetokunbo are interested.
Westbrookinit3
2013-06-27 09:54:45
okcjim : At that point you have to offer him to Utah for the 14th and 21st pick. Might have to include the 29.
DXL
2013-06-27 09:54:57
Also Portland with the 27th ranked defense in the league. Not all Aldridge's fault, but he's certainly not proven to be a defensive anchor over the years.
Turfright
2013-06-27 09:55:31
[coke head] elginthunder DXL Can he rebound? That is what we need.
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:55:53
okcjim He could buy Beasley's old house!
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:56:08
Prob right
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:56:26
Harden couldn't guard him though
Turfright
2013-06-27 09:56:29
elginthunder TrueChamp d21 Those are Jamaican colors. He changed his name to Durant Lion
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:57:29
Why? So we could sign a free agent?
anonymous12345
2013-06-27 09:57:31
okcjim Ibaka for LA is a no brainer imo.  Such a no brainer, that it'll never happen.
elginthunder
2013-06-27 09:57:55
nomad FFFFFFUUUUUUUU.............
Turfright
2013-06-27 09:58:12
Lost Ones Word on the street he has a thuggish attitude.
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-27 09:58:15
d21 long arm of the law This guy
long arm of the law
2013-06-27 09:58:29
nomad brazillian dude it is then.
Lasch
2013-06-27 09:58:39
okcjim Because they aren't ready - and they would learn2play on someone else's dime.
DXL
2013-06-27 09:58:47
nomad All first round picks are guaranteed. Even if the team wants the Euro to stay overseas the player can show up to training camp. They can demand either a contract or to be released.
okcjim
2013-06-27 09:59:14
That's who I was thinking he'd turn into. Might as well buy his house.
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-27 09:59:31
Come Home Professor X PNT It also comes with the added bonus that there's less of a chance Fisher will be joining the team in April
nomad
2013-06-27 09:59:38
Don't know how much stock to put into this. I'm sure we're "exploring" lots of things. Including trading up which would make this a non-factor.
Lasch
2013-06-27 10:00:17
nomad Yeah, if there is one thing Presti likes - options.
Durienne
2013-06-27 10:00:21
DXL We don't need guys who don't want to be here.  If he thinks Portland is boring, how is OKC going to be any different?
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 10:03:07
Lasch okcjim 31st it is then...
DXL
2013-06-27 10:03:12
Contract considerations, too. Aldridge locked up for only 2 more years at $14.6 million and $15.7 million. Ibaka locked up for 4 years at $12.35 million per year.
Turfright
2013-06-27 10:03:36
Durienne DXL Honestly Portland seems like weird white person land to me. I could see that being boring for some. If you don't like the cold rainy ocean, odd unique boutique eateries, funky art, book store, farms, etc. Portland might not be your spot. OKC has a decent mix of cultures here.
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 10:04:15
You know it's coming, DTers. Plumlee at 12. Accept it now.
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 10:04:19
you all want to trade ibaka ok..  we better score at least 115 points every single game cause we are not going to be able to do this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFWiTuxQTzc
dollarbillrussell
2013-06-27 10:04:42
Turfright Durienne DXL The mix of culture in OKC compared to Portland isn't even close
okcjim
2013-06-27 10:05:06
We've been all over the board, trade up trade down trade out of the draft, stash. I think we're running interference haha. . We'll find out tonight.
Durienne
2013-06-27 10:05:20
Turfright Durienne DXL As Barkley says, "There's no black people here".
tbird26p
2013-06-27 10:05:37
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) elginthunder  The 76ers MAY put Bynum on the market... they MIGHT... This dude is stuuuupid
MrRaysian
2013-06-27 10:05:52
Jooseppi i haven't seen that name in a while around here
Turfright
2013-06-27 10:05:59
Durienne Turfright DXL About OKC or Portland?
Turfright
2013-06-27 10:07:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KsliRvRTiw Simmons and Rose interview Glen Rice Jr.
Durienne
2013-06-27 10:07:11
Turfright Durienne DXL OKC...he's said it several times.
DXL
2013-06-27 10:08:20
[coke head] DXL Nicolas Batum and Wesley Matthews are considered good to very good defenders. Blame for the 27th ranked defense has to go somewhere: 1) The frontcourt stunk. Hickson and Aldridge didn't stop other teams from scoring in the paint. 2) Damian Lillard still a bad defender as a rookie. Enough context?
Lost Ones
2013-06-27 10:08:58
i'm not a fan at stashing a player at 12 that makes no sense to me. usually stash's are later picks who need time to blossom
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 10:09:10
KD4theWin Ibaka did not get nearly enough love for that play. Blocks Howard rolling to the rim to dunk and then blocks Earl Clark on the recovery. Basically set the tone for that entire game.
Podirk
2013-06-27 10:09:32
Plumlee and Jones can have jumping contests on the bench while Karasev is draining threes
YoniFromIsrael
2013-06-27 10:09:49
http://dailythunder.com/2013/06/thursday-bolts-6-27-13/
okcjim
2013-06-27 10:09:55
Is money that big an issue for us that the reason we pick a certain guy at 12 is to stash him so we don't have the salary right away? That's disappointing if true. As weak as our backups were and as bad as our center is surely we could find someone we could at least develop this year to be ready next.
Podirk
2013-06-27 10:10:25
Decent option to save some salary and offer a vet more MLE
Turfright
2013-06-27 10:10:31
d21 Whatever, he has big hands, Huge hands and that is directly correlated with success.
ThunderUp12
2013-06-27 10:10:38
nomad that's disappointing.
Lost Ones
2013-06-27 10:10:40
idk about suck he just wont contribute anytime soon
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-27 10:10:45
http://dailythunder.com/2013/06/thursday-bolts-6-27-13/#respond
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-27 10:10:56
shit........... im shabazzed :P
Jooseppi
2013-06-27 10:11:07
Legendary_Dork Liked it better when Yoni did it.
Turfright
2013-06-27 10:11:26
Durienne Turfright DXL I think the black people in Oklahoma City would disagree.
GREENE1148
2013-06-27 10:11:50
Turfright SWEET! Need more info on him... he dominated the D League...
Legendary_Dork
2013-06-27 10:12:51
Jooseppi Legendary_Dork wait....mine has #respond at the end. so im not shabazzed :D
DXL
2013-06-27 10:13:07
d21 okcjim If the NY Times is correct Zaragoza signed him for $325K total over 3 years. How much could the buyout possibly be? 100K? 200K? It's a pittance. If he's drafted in the first round he'll make $1 million or $2 million his first year. Huge incentive for Giannis to come over NOW.
okcjim
2013-06-27 10:14:08
Why would we consider him either way? We don't need a player to help in 2017. At the very least draft a player that could potentially help in 2014. Plenty of those around. Only reason the Greek guy could be a possibility is the cap.
KD4theWin
2013-06-27 10:15:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Cy0EWvUdD0
tbird26p
2013-06-27 10:15:46
ThunderUp12 DXL Lasch d21 Plus.. look up Dwayne Wade.. He was a late lottery pick like Burke until he showed up and performed like a star in big time games during the tourney (even though every game is big time...) Burke might not be the most athletic but neither is chirs paul
DXL
2013-06-27 10:16:58
okcjim Money's not the issue. Control is the issue. You want the Euro on 4 years of a rookie contract while he's in his prime. Not while he's still developing. If Adetokunbo is really 2 or 3 years of development away from contributing in the NBA if he comes next year his rookie contract will mostly be over by the time he's ready to play.
okcjim
2013-06-27 10:22:01
They wouldn't even consider him though if they had to pay him this year. Money is an issue if this is right. Championship teams don't draft guys for 3-4 years down the road. They find pieces that help fill gaps now.
tbird26p
2013-06-27 10:22:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICqnSGwvSNg Burke is that DUDE.
okcjim
2013-06-27 10:23:23
Jackson def has value.
Lasch
2013-06-27 10:26:34
okcjim It is the Spurs way -  what Presti has tried to copy.
Marty_McFly321
2013-06-27 10:38:47
tbird26p You can tell he isn't extremely quick but man he is crafty and smart.  Understood exactly what the defense was going to do every time and has a way of creating his own shot when the possession bogs down. That's my analysis from watching that 5 minutes of game footage anyway lol
WTLC
2013-06-27 15:16:01
D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion)   Point 1: I'd consider this draft to be pretty important. No one knows how far they would have gone with Westbrook, but it was obvious that the Thunder weren't as good as they were last year. That's never occurred before, so there's a definite need to improve the team. Since this is likely the last time the Thunder will have a lottery selection in the next 5 years, it's vital that they do something with it. Point 2: Reggie Jackson averaged 3.6 assists and 1.9 turnovers in 33 minutes during the playoffs. The ratio isn't that bad, but that's not very many assists for the amount of time he played. Second year Westbrook had 8.0 assists and 3.3 turnovers. Jackson COULD be a legitimate backup point guard, and I'm not denying that. But as of right now, he hasn't totally proven himself, because he hasn't gotten to handle the ball enough, and hasn't done it with enough success. Newsflash: He might work better as a two guard. (By the way, when I said guard in the sentence, I meant point guard, my bad.) Also, you're picking at the most irrelevant parts of my article. The intro and a side statement about the Thunder's third more important need.
WTLC
2013-06-27 15:19:28
tbird26p D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) elginthunder  They might, or he might become an unrestricted free agent. The second is more likely.
follower
2013-06-27 16:21:08
Durienne Turfright DXL Black population of OKC: 15.1%. Black population of U.S.: 12.6%. I guess there are no blacks in the U.S. either. Barkley doesn't know what he's talking about.
follower
2013-06-27 16:26:29
WTLC D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) I think OKC was better this year than they've ever been. Won more games, by larger margin, good defense, etc, etc. Players continue to show improvement. I figure all teams, including Heat (who almost, should've? lost to two teams w/o the loss of any superstar) would have lost in the playoffs without a superstar in the lineup.
follower
2013-06-27 16:37:16
okcjim I agree. Aldridge would be a 3rd scoring option for the defense and would open up more scoring/higher scoring percentages for RW/KD, IMO. His defense is about the same or better, as far as I'm concerned. I think there is a reason he makes millions more--he is worth more. I think Collison/CP3/KD could fill Ibaka role on defense but I think we win a championship with Aldridge myself.
WTLC
2013-06-27 16:39:25
follower WTLC D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) It's a matter of opinion, but I think our bench was tons worse, despite our starting lineup getting better overall. We had no solid backup center, and like last year, no back up point guard. Combine that with losing the court vision of James Harden and the shooting of Cook, and you've got no scoring ability whatsoever. So that situation needs recifying if we're going to go anywhere (look at Indiana, whose lack of a bench killed them). Also, the Grizz managed to beat us after losing Gay, and the Heat won with Wade really struggling, and had lots of other options. I see your side of the argument and it's valid, but the main point I was trying to make is that this is the Thunder's last chance in a while to make a serious draft impact, and they definitely need help in certain areas.
follower
2013-06-27 16:55:27
WTLC follower D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) You know tons more about NBA than I do, so you are probably right. Our bench was worse. However, in the future I see some real promise with RJ (whom I like), Lamb and PJ3. I wouldn't have expected them to play big time minutes the first year anyway, but I don't see why that would mean they can't be really good NBA players, especially considering who they were behind, do you? I agree that this looks like the last time to be able to make this big of a splash in the draft in a while.
WTLC
2013-06-27 18:21:35
follower WTLC D-MC (DT Heavyweight Champion) Yeah, they all have the potential, just depends on how they do over the next couple of years. But they could bust, too, so I wouldn't mind a good prospect this year.