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Perk: Thunder are ‘getting close’ on Harden’s extension

by Royce Young on September 12, 2012 at 5:24 pm 338 Comments

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That glass there? It’s not just half full to Kendrick Perkins. It’s half full of the good stuff, if you know what I mean.

Speaking at a Thunder Fit Clinic event Wednesday, Perk told reporters that he has high hopes for the Thunder’s biggest remaining offseason question, even going as far to say Oklahoma City is “close” to locking up James Harden to an extension.

“We’re doing good. We’re making positive steps going forward,” Perk said about OKC’s offseason. “We got coach Brooks locked in. We got Serge locked in. And we’re getting close with James, and we’re getting close to keeping our unit together. And we’re still hungry.

“Once James gets here it’s nothing to be said,” he said when asked if he’d try and influence Harden. “He’ll see his family and that’s all he needs. So once he sees everybody’s faces that’s enough said.”

If you listen to the audio down below, you’ll hear the way Perk says it and it kind of sounds as if he’s just sort of shooting from the hip on it without any actual inside knowledge of the situation. But I can appreciate his sentiment, because I’m drinking the same stuff he is. I continue to believe that there’s no way the Thunder let a player of Harden’s caliber get away because of impending money concerns.

Though it could just be a false hope and optimism. Because OKC’s future issues are absolutely real and the organization hasn’t shied away from acknowledging them. It’s hard to believe they’d really let a player like Harden get away, especially when there’s a legitimate opportunity to be an NBA title contender for the next five or six years. But the league is a business and it’s real dollars people are spending.

What’s kind of ironic about Perk’s comments though is that if Harden is re-signed, it could signal the end of his time in Oklahoma City. One of the obvious plans for the Thunder to avoid major luxury tax issues is to use the amnesty provision on Perk in 2015 or 2016. Cut him and his nearly $9 million off the books and the Thunder could rescue themselves from a stiff penalty.

Perk though is the kind of guy that is almost unreasonably loyal to teammates and his team. He believes in brotherhood and the idea of someone jumping ship for money instead of staying part of something good probably doesn’t compute with him.

Again, what the Thunder face is well documented, but there’s a deadline looming. If Oklahoma City doesn’t extend Harden before Oct. 31, he becomes a restricted free agent and is all but guaranteed to receive a max offer sheet from someone. Which would mean the Thunder would be forced to match it, or watch their Sixth Man of the Year walk away.

Harden has made it especially clear that his preference is to remain in Oklahoma City and if that’s the case, his best chance is by signing an extension before Oct. 31. Because again: He’s getting max money on the open market. So if the Thunder have any hope of getting him signed for less than that, it would have to come via an extension.

That’s the move Serge Ibaka made in inking his four-year extension with OKC. By not allowing himself to test the open market, he likely took a little less money, but afforded himself the opportunity to remain with the Thunder. Harden obviously understands that’s his situation too.

Training camp opens for the Thunder Oct. 1. Perk and the rest of the team will have 30 days to tug on Harden’s heart and hope he sees OKC is the place to be. Otherwise, the questions will continue.

A few other notes from Perk:

  • Perk on the West: “We are the Western Conference champs. At the end of the day we’re not chasing nobody except for the ring. We’re chasing Miami to get a championship. There’s no guarantee who’s going to be where. At the end of the day, we earned the Western Conference champs. We’re not chasing the Lakers. We’re chasing a championship.”
  • His reaction on Dwight Howard going to the Lakers: “To be honest, I really didn’t have one.”
  • He says Eric Maynor is cleared and is looking good: “I don’t know if y’all seen him but he’s more athletic. I seen him dunk the other day for the first time since I’ve been here.”
  • Perk talked about all the big men added to the roster but made it clear: The line starts behind him. “We all teammates, but at the end of the day the center position over here is mine. And that’s the way we going to keep it.”
  • Perk said he’s seen a lot of improvement out of Cole Aldrich, almost jumping at the opportunity to say so.
  • He says he’s close to getting healthy and expects to be ready for opening night. “My groin is fine, my wrist I’m taking it day by day.” Perk said it was a three-month healing process and Thursday makes eight weeks.

KENDRICK PERKINS

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Jax Raging Bile Duct
Jax Raging Bile Duct 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

http://www.dailythunder.com/2012/09/thursday-bolts-9-13-12/

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

I really, really want someone to make a Russell Westbrook mix to AC/DC's "Shoot to Thrill".

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

There was a poll on nba tv about who will win rookie of the year and davis get most most of the votes, that is nonsense cuz u cnt win roy by grabing rebounds and block a few shots

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @thunderobsess The problem with Jones for any RoY discussion will be the two players in front of him. He's not playing ahead of KD at the 3, and he's not playing ahead of Serge at the 4. That'll make it hard for him to get the playing time to show off. Most RoYs are on bad teams. That's why there's a predisposition towards Davis or MKG.

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@ou_sas i knw that but i wasnt making the case for perry being roy, am just saying hes way more talented than davis and yes mkg might get roy

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

@ou_sas fair enough but i just dnt see davis getting it, hes not gona have a high shooting percentage nor racking up assist, at the possition he playng hes gona suffer mightily at the power forward or center spot his first year in the nba

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @thunderobsess  @ou_sas I knew you weren't. The problem is that he and MKG might be the only rookies I'd take pre-season to be on the same talent level and capable of having a similar impact their first year. Now, some other guys might emerge throughout the season, but at the moment, there's just not a good selection - to me, at least.

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

Perry jones has more potentail than davis, hes taller, weigh more, more athletic and faster, davis was guarding pj in the paint and they had to send terrence jones to help lol

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Okay POLL Time people:

 

If you were in the NY area, would you:

a) Go watch a Knicks vs Detroit Game AT the MSG?

b) Go over to Philly for a OKC @ PHI match-up? 

c) Go to a Nets game to see the shiny new stadium?

 

Sound off...

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

 @ThunderBelize Philly is an hour and a half by train. Thunder.

 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @ThunderBelize Couple of questions: 1) Have you been to a Thunder game in person before? If not, go to that one. 2) Have you been to MSG before? Might want to do that if you get past question 1. Don't know about ticket prices for all 3 events, but it'll be expensive.

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas I saw OKC beat DAL in game 4 this past year. Never been to MSG and the only game that I am presently priced out of is OKC @ BOS, hence it was not an option... The other 3 I can manage, though admittedly MSG would be more for experience than quality of seats.

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts

 @ThunderBelize  @ou_sas Which Nets game?

Tronchaser
Tronchaser 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @ThunderBelize I got to play catch on Wrigley field..  definitely bucket list stuff.

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts

 @ou_sas Yeah... hmmm... still no closer to making a decision... :-)

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderBelize That's kind of what I meant by looking at MSG. It's kind of a bucket list thing, like seeing a game at Wrigley Field or something.

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

@ThunderBelize okc @ philly

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

Anybody optimistic about perry jones, cuz i think hes the best talent from this years draft

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

 @thunderobsess 'cept the Brow of course.. dude's gonna be great

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

@Lasers excuse me, davis is overhyped

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @Trish_WeTalkinBoutPRACTICE_Bayless  @Lasers  @thunderobsess co-sign, 100%

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Lasers  @thunderobsess I need to see him play a game in the NBA before I make a judgement.

Lasers
Lasers 5pts

 @thunderobsess  @Lasers nah, he's just really really good

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

@Lasers excuse me, davis is overhyped

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @thunderobsess A lot of us are optimistic about Jones, we're just all tempering it because we know Brooks' propensity to stick to his rotations. 

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

@ou_sas well he better play him bcuz from i undertand after extensive profile on pj and the words that come out of his mouth at the predraft workout, the guy was basicaly bored with the level of competion, thats y he was inconsistent

MrRaysian
MrRaysian 5pts

I've been coaching 16, 15 year olds for the last few months and we're finally starting to be a winning team but the other day i got an complaint from a kid's mum saying i'm pushing them too much. I need advice what should i do

Fisha Status
Fisha Status 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MrRaysian Wait ...we talkin 'bout practice? or a game.

 

LOL

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@MrRaysian hard work eventualy pays off

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @MrRaysian

 

ARE you pushing them "too much"?  Is winning coming at the expense of anyone's physical or mental well-being?  If you can answer No to both of those, I'd ignore the complaint and somehow work in some positive talks with the group about how their hard work is starting to pay off.

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ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MrRaysian  @ThunderChick2010 If it's basketball drills and not just 90 minutes of suicides, you should be okay, I'd have thought. Just a sensitive mother. Though maybe some 3 on 3 or knockout could help.

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MrRaysian Take her kid to the side and ask him if you are.  Then assess it from there

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @OkcBaby  @MrRaysian Definitely do not do this. A 15 year old speaking privately with the coach isn't going to tell you what he/she really believes. You might as well just call him a pussy in front of the rest of the team. 

Old Man Game
Old Man Game 5pts

 @OkcBaby  @MrRaysian No I don't think it would work even if you went to the kid privately. If anything it might just make it more awkward for the kid. 

OkcBaby
OkcBaby 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Old Man Game  @MrRaysian You wouldnt do it in front of everyone hahaha

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

Sorry TC, but I'm changing my avatar.

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ou_sas

 Boo!

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts

 @cleandoe lol, don't like the new one?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe I take after my father in looks a lot and so I was thinning out on top. My wife made a suggestion that I might look better with short hair. I was in law school at the time and kind of realized that I might want a slightly more professional look... so kind of a combination of all three? I mean, I grew it out in college because I figured it was the only time in my life when I could do that and not suffer any repercussions for it. I knew it would come to an end sooner or later.

 

Just like names, sometimes it takes Livefyre a while to update. Though if you hit refresh it should take care of it.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @cleandoe

Okay, just one more question . . . why'd you cut it?  wife? job? just time for a change?  And btw, it's odd that your avatar still shows us as the old one as a 'like' in this thread, but the new one as a post.  Livefyre . . .

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe Lol, it's fine. Most people, when they meet me in real life, can't picture me with long hair. It's pretty funny, actually.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @cleandoe 

And now I'll quit talking about your hair . . . before this starts to sound internet-creepy.  :)

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe I had a couple of female friends who were so enchanted with the long hair that they tried to get me to straighten it too.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @cleandoe 

It just occurred to me that Jax has also claimed to have had (curly?) Jesus-hair at some point.  You're really Jax, aren't you . . . an alter-ego of an alter-ego?  It's all becoming so clear now . . .

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts

 @ou_sas  @cleandoe 

I can see.  If only cleandoe could see those curls too . . .  :)  I got the whole naturally-curly gene too, although I typical straighten these days.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe Yeah, I will. Fortunately, (or unfortunately) it's much shorter now, so that solves that problem.

 

My hair, when long, is super curly too. I used to be able to stretch it out an extra couple of inches beyond that. I don't know if you can see on that picture just how curly it gets.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @cleandoe 

Does anyone else want to run their fingers through that hair?  :)  Run if El Prez or DB answers in the affirmative.  Run fast.

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe It's not like my color scheme was crucial to his rainbow, anyways. The brightness of your All Dae was much better than the subdued red that my fourth doctor avatar had.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas  @cleandoe 

I LIKE it . . . but I can see how it wouldn't be quite rainbow enough for some.  :)

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @cleandoe Well, at least you have seen some of the few pictures that exist of me back when sas really did stand for sasquatch.

 

Though my mum preferred to refer to me as Hagrid, due to my size and affinity for wearing a large trenchcoat (you'd be surprised what you can carry in a good trenchcoat's pockets!).

cleandoe
cleandoe 5pts

 @ou_sas

 Not as much :(

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas

 booze?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 No! Well, not much. I only had the one glass. But I was just getting tired of the old one, so I figured it was time for a change.

ThunderChick2010
ThunderChick2010 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @ou_sas

 ???  You in your sasquatch days?

(They say it's easier to apologize than to ask permission.)

 

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ThunderChick2010 Yup! :)

thunderobsess
thunderobsess 5pts

@ou_sas i want a avatar its killin me

bmuelle22
bmuelle22 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @ou_sas to the okstate logo?

ou_sas
ou_sas 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @bmuelle21 ....not quite. Hit refresh.

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