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Report: Maloofs near deal to sell Kings to Seattle group

by Royce Young on January 9, 2013 at 1:31 pm 524 Comments

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You may want to pretend like this has nothing to do with the Thunder, but it does. According to Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo Sports, the Maloofs are nearing a deal to sell the Sacramento Kings to a Seattle group led by Chris Hansen and Steve Ballmer. Which of course means the Kings are moving to Seattle, most likely to begin next season.

The Seattle group led by Hansen has jumped all necessary hurdles, the biggest one getting an arena deal approved. That isn’t set to be finished for a few years so reportedly the plan would be for the team to play in Key Arena for a couple seasons, which was deemed unfit to house an NBA team by the league five years ago.

I know what you’re asking: What does this mean for the Thunder?

Here’s what the settlement between Clay Bennett and the city of Seattle looked like:

  • The Thunder have a “shared” history with Seattle. Records and championships are used by the Thunder, but can also be used by Seattle once a new team goes there. So how that actually plays out will be pretty interesting. The Thunder own the 1979 title, but if I understand the settlement right, the new Sonics could claim it as well.
  • All the physical trophies, banners and retired jerseys stayed in Seattle and were stored in a museum/Key Arena. The Thunder were said to be allowed to “borrow” them to put on display periodically though and make copies.
  • Bennett owns the SuperSonics logo and name, but obviously didn’t use them when the team moved to OKC. But under the agreement, if a new team moved back to Seattle, Bennett would turn the logo and name over to the new owner, under no contest and under approval by the league.
  • The settlement included a stipulation that Bennett would pay $30 million to Seattle if the state approved funding for an new arena by Seattle doesn’t get a new franchise within five years. That approval for a new arena had to be done by 2009 though. And it didn’t happen, so that expired.
  • One thing the city of Seattle does not retain the rights to per the settlement is Kevin Durant, and for that, I am very thankful.
  • Lots asked if the Thunder would be moved divisions: That’s up to the league. Division realignment makes sense, but it’s not like an automatic thing.
  • My personal opinion of what happens for OKC: I would think the Thunder would move to try and distance themselves even more from Seattle, and would likely start treating the organization as more of an expansion than anything else. At least that’s what I’d do.
  • Also: I’d advise avoiding any gloating or finger-pointing at Seattle people. Yes, things definitely have a hypocritical tint to them right now, but these wheels were very obviously set in motion by Bennett and his group relocating the team to OKC. Seattle needed a new team because theirs moved to Oklahoma City.
  • Also that said: As has been my position all along, teams relocate. It happens. If the Sonics didn’t move to OKC, they probably were going to move somewhere else. Same goes for the Kings, who were within an eyelash of moving to Anaheim last season. It’s part of the professional sports business.
  • I’d also resist using the word “steal” when talking about all of this. That’s always bugged me. You can’t steal something that you own. Bennett owned the Sonics. It was his business and he could do with it as he pleased, under all legal boundaries. Which he did. And if the Hansen-Ballmer group finishes this off, they own the Kings and can do what they want.
  • What do all you converted Sonic-to-Thunder fans do? I don’t know, but we’d sure love to have you onboard still.
  • Personally, I’m extremely happy for the city of Seattle. That’s a great NBA city and one that absolutely deserves a franchise. I always hated the circumstances that they lost the Sonics, but selfishly, I’m super happy it happened. But great for them and I look forward to a future bloodbath Sonics-Thunder rivalry.
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Razgriz24
Razgriz24 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I hope the first thing Clay does if Seattle gets the team is give back the history. OKC fans sure as hell don't want it.

Thunderman
Thunderman 5pts

@Razgriz24 Totally agree!

Sonicfan
Sonicfan 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

I don't understand why most sonicfans blame Clay Bennett? Howard Shultz knew that Bennett wanted to move the team to OKC! Our politicians could have held Bennett to the lease but were greedy and felt the sonics brought no economic value to the city. Same politicians that keep getting elected. I do feel Seattle got screwed but not by Bennett! He did what anyone of us would have done to bring a team to his town. If I had more internal fortitude I would never drink Starbucks again! Shultz is a douche.

jeffori
jeffori 5pts

Anyone think it'll be a little strange to see the likes of Jimmer, Cousins, and Tyreke in Green/Yellow? Or are they going to be utilizing the 95-01' logo/colors with red in it?

DerBierMacher
DerBierMacher 5pts

I remember going to a Kings game in Kansas City.  The next time I went to a pro game was about 30 years later in OKC.  Seattle should be glad that their whining got them a team after only 5 years.

 

 

rambisfan
rambisfan 5pts

@DerBierMacher No whining isn't the reason. A good HONEST man with a lot of money and smarts will get Seattle a team.

PostBeardStressDisorder
PostBeardStressDisorder 5pts

I feel good for Seattle, but I remember when the Kings moved to Sacramento.  I'm originally from NoCal. I grew up in Berkeley and was a Warriors fan, but I had friends from Sacto in the mid-1980s. For a while that city treated the Kings kinda like OKC treats the Thunder today.  So I'm less interested in the Seattle hypocrisy angle than I am in the this-could-be-us-in-twenty-five-years angle.  Let's hope that OKC and the ownership make sure that it isn't!

Aren't
Aren't 5pts

Losing Durant and Westbrook to OKC and getting a broken and perennially inept franchise in return?

NBA's Cleveland Browns?

qrex
qrex 5pts

 @Aren't "Losing ... Westbrook to OKC"??? Wasn't he drafted a few days before the team moved?   It's not like he even practiced in Seattle.

thomasglassman
thomasglassman 5pts

 @qrex  @Aren't  Joking?  He won rookie of the year in Seattle...

thunderous34
thunderous34 5pts

@thomasglassman Boo hoo, grow a pair

thomasglassman
thomasglassman 5pts

I'm not sure how else to say it.. 

 

If you have players on your team you want, and they leave, you are dissapointed. 

 

If you say something that isn't factual, you are wrong. 

 

That is all that has happened here.  We lost a franchise that became good, we are getting a franchise that is currently bad. 

 

get it yet? 

qrex
qrex 5pts

 @thomasglassman  @Aren't So, it matters where it occurred, which franchise it occurred for, or what??    You seem inconsistent.

thomasglassman
thomasglassman 5pts

 @qrex  @thomasglassman  @Aren't

 sorry didn't realize you had erased KD from the original message,  no Westbrook never played in Seattle.  He did come here after the draft for a photo shoot and meet and greet with fans...(grrr).  No one in Seattle forgets that it was Presti who drafted KD, why would we forget that?  The New Orleans "franchise" was never in OKC permanently  and was always going back to New Orleans no matter what.  To compare that with 41 years of history where a franchise was created and then stolen is slightly different. 

 

Also, drafting someone high in the draft and then losing them to another city is indeed, losing them. 

qrex
qrex 5pts

 @thomasglassman  @Aren't

When did Westbrook play or even practice in Seattle?  Most there forget that it was Bennett-Presti that drafted KD.  By the same token, Chris Paul won ROY in OKC, then the franchise moved.  It happens.

Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling
Stephen Jackson is not about this spelling 5pts

I semi-legitimately believe Seattle should name the new team the Seattle superchronics

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

 @DSYIII only if the team moves to Denver

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

 @Lamb Fries (AKA Bry Bry)  @DSYIII Legal up there now too.

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

Does this mean I can start calling the Kings the "Beta SuperSonics????"

Bry Bry
Bry Bry 5pts

Just shorten that to BetaSonics

DangerRuss4ROY
DangerRuss4ROY 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

What do you mean we didn't win the NBA title in 1979? I've been a fan forever, this is BS!    

 

- OKC fan

Legendary_Dork
Legendary_Dork 5pts

http://dailythunder.com/2013/01/timberwolves-vs-thunder-pregame-primer-6/

DangerRuss4ROY
DangerRuss4ROY 5pts

The NBA's relocation committee, headed by Oklahoma City owner Clay Bennett. Funny.

propsizzle
propsizzle 5pts

 @DangerRuss4ROY he has recent experience...

SSLealos
SSLealos 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

It will be interesting to see the new Seattle team playing at Golden State, and all the Sacramento fans will be in attendance, sitting behind their bench wearing Kings jerseys and shouting obscenities. Karma, you know. Seattle deserves it for the way they treated OKC fans.

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts

 @SSLealos Wonder why fans for teams from other cities that lost their teams don't do what you just described?  Because the consensus around the country is that the relocation of the Sonics was the most shady relocation of a franchise ever.  The Sonicgate people go out their and do what they do to remind people of what happened.  

 

No one is lying to the city of Sacramento.  Chris Hanson, the buyer is not going to go to Sacramento and pretend like he is going to do everything in his power to keep the team in Sacramento.  His intentions are clear.  Like all other cities that lost teams, their anger is towards the owner who sold the team to the guy who is clearly going to relocate the team.

Crownme
Crownme 5pts

 @dmason_24  @SSLealos He ofered the team back on "it stays in Seattle" clause. No one took it.

PostBeardStressDisorder
PostBeardStressDisorder 5pts

 @dmason_24  @SSLealos "Shadier" than the Colts move to Indianapolis?

deega
deega 5pts

 @SSLealos Perhaps it is the shadiest among those who choose to dwell on it.

thunderous34
thunderous34 5pts

@deega @SSLealos Touche

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thunderous34
thunderous34 5pts

Hater

SonnyPotts
SonnyPotts 5pts

 @MJOKC    @SSLealos 

 

Karma huh ??   LOL Bennett has piled up a crap load of it.  ... Hope you feel the same way when Durant's contract is up.  .... And maybe Westbrook's as well.  

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts

 @MJOKC  @SSLealos You're telling me that it's not alright to lie to get something you want but you're giving Clay a pass because other businessman do shady things.  I'm not getting your logic.  

P.S. I'm not saying that he's the only businessman to lie. 

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts

 @MJOKC  @dmason_24  @SSLealos So it is alright to lie to get what you want?  Strange principles.

ThunderBelize
ThunderBelize 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

I have to say I am super excited to hear about this! As a long time Sonics fan this would be shake my fandom a little bit, but none the less it would be great to SEA with a team.

 

MostJadedGamer
MostJadedGamer 5pts

 This would be awesome. Hope Seattle gets the Kings, and they start playing next season. We would instant rivals with Seattle.

DangerRuss4ROY
DangerRuss4ROY 5pts

Thunder fans think Westbrook is a top 5 PG all-time. It's not their fault, they hadn't seen an NBA game before 2008.

OBoy
OBoy 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @DangerRuss4ROY neither are true, and neither insult me. This post sucks. 

DangerRuss4ROY
DangerRuss4ROY 5pts

 @OBoy Jones III You and your training wheels fan base sucks

thunderous34
thunderous34 5pts

@DangerRuss4ROY "Training wheels fan base" you are the wittiest of them all. Go hate somewhere else fool

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

 @DangerRuss4ROY  @OBoy Jones III This is to DangerRuss

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

 @DangerRuss4ROY  @OBoy Jones III Coming from a 30 year Sonics/Thunder fan, piss off.

f5alcon
f5alcon 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @DangerRuss4ROY nobody thinks that

TaoMaas
TaoMaas 5pts

 @f5alcon    True...he's the only one I see that's saying it.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

Kings fans are getting scrweed far worse than Sonics fans did. SAC bent over backwards, Seattle refused a new arena.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

 @BallSoHard 100% on the money.  If Seattle had simply voted yes for the arena, KD would be wearing green.  No one to blame but themselves.

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts like.author.displayName like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 3 Like

 @FF_pickups  @BallSoHard Bennett wanted a $500 million glass palace fully funded by tax payer money.  No city would approve that, especially one that had forked over a lot of dough for 2 stadiums already. 

Approving something like that is irresponsible to the citizens.  Bennett put up a ridiculous offer knowing it would be rejected and it was.  After that he gave all his effort to relocating the team.

 

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

 @dmason_24  @BallSoHard  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups Save some vitriol for Schultzy and Stern.

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @dmason_24 This is not about having a choice or not.  For Sacramento it's about being jurked around by the two boneheaded jerks and for Seattle, we were flat lied to.  

Both cities got screwed in different ways.

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @dmason_24  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups No one is saying that Sacramento is not getting hosed.  The 2 situations are not apples to apples.  They are completely different.

 

The Maloofs own the Kings and are jerking Sacramento around because they want to relocate to somewhere more favorable or get a sweet heart of a deal (the $391 deal would have them contributing too much of their own money than they would have liked).

 

In Seattle, Bennett bought the team, held a press conference that his one and only intention is to keep the team in Seattle but that was never the case.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@dmason_24 It comes down to this...Maloofs had a chance to build a new stadium...Bennet never did. There was NO CHOICE. Sacramento was going to fund a 400M stadium, Seattle voted NO to a 270M renovation AND a 500M new stadium. Blame your city.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

The Maloofs have never been honest. They reversed a decade of statements with their actions.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@dmason_24 @justin_mia @FF_pickups Come one...Sacramento is getting completely hosed in this deal and is nowhere near from Bennet did to Seattle. Don't forget, the Maloofs BACKED OUT of a $391M deal to finance a stadium downtown.

dmason_24
dmason_24 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups  @dmason_24 

Yes, if it involved tax payer money, then you're right.  But as a die hard fan growing up with the team I have no problem with that.  My biggest problem with the whole situation were the lies and deceit.  If Bennett and his crew were upfront with their intentions, then this is like Sacramento losing their team to an owner with the clear intention to move the team.  That was not the case for Seattle 5 years ago.  And of course, Bennett wouldn't be able to buy the team in the first place if he were honest about his intentions.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups  @dmason_24 Yeah the city F'ed that one up, I agree with that.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@justin_mia @FF_pickups @dmason_24 The city rejected a $220 Million dollar renovation to KeyArena...BEFORE the team was sold to Bennett....Seattle wasn't approving ANYTHING ANYWAY.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@dmason_24 @FF_pickups Irony is that Bennet serves as Chairman of the NBA relocation committee...this same cat may bring the NBA back to Seattle.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups  @dmason_24 What about that statement was not fact?  Unless you're being deliberately myopic I think it was an accurate portrayal of the events.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @dmason_24  I love the excuses but I prefer to deal in facts.  The facts are that if you don't do it, someone else will.  The NBA is a business, not a charity. 

tygablood
tygablood 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@dmason_24 @FF_pickups @BallSoHard OKC built their arena...so some cities would

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @FF_pickups  @BallSoHard Sonics FANS didn't vote no.

JeremyBrewer
JeremyBrewer 5pts

 @FF_pickups  @BallSoHard A little harsh, don't you think. Why not stereotype em all into one? 

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia  @BallSoHard  Yeah, I am talking primarily about Seattle as a city, that is owners, citizens and politicians.  Seattle as a group failed.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @FF_pickups Who blames Seattle fans for the team moving every chance he gets.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @BallSoHard  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups I was more talking to that other guy, LOL.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@justin_mia @FF_pickups not mentioning fans...all about the owners.

[censored]
[censored] 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @BallSoHard  @justin_mia  @FF_pickups Kings fans get the business no doubt but the idea that Seattle 'fans' dropped any ball is just as ludicrous as Sacramento 'fans' dropping the ball.  These things are moving along beyond their payscales, so to speak.

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @BallSoHard 

Seattle obviously has no sense of morality.  They will say whatever will benefit them, to heck with the facts.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

Bennet never made a deal.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

The Maloofs have backed out of other deals including one that had the NBA LOANING THEM THE MONEY.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts like.author.displayName 1 Like

@justin_mia @FF_pickups Like I said, Kings had a deal in place for a new arena AND a prospective owner to keep them there

[censored]
[censored] 5pts

 @FF_pickups  @BallSoHard Okay buddy.

BallSoHard
BallSoHard 5pts

@justin_mia @FF_pickups Neither did the players, or owners

FF_pickups
FF_pickups 5pts

 @justin_mia  @BallSoHard If Sonics 'FANS' want to use local and state populations in their argument about why they are a superior NBA destination to Oklahoma then I stand by my statement.

Stringer Bell
Stringer Bell 5pts

 @BallSoHard No matter what, the fans are the ones screwed when a team is moved.

Stringer Bell
Stringer Bell 5pts

 @BallSoHard I was a Sonics fan but I don't live in the Seattle area so I had no say in the vote. I feel terrible for the Sacramento fans. It is a terrible feeling to lose your team. 

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