Thoughts KD on the Howard deal? ‘I really don’t care’

The first person people wanted to talk to after Team USA smoked Argentina was Kobe Bryant. The second? Probably Kevin Durant.

Not because he was the leading scorer yet again, but because the blockbuster Dwight Howard trade appears to have a significant impact on his team. What appeared to be a wide open road back to the NBA Finals now how a pretty big roadblock in the way in the form of Howard’s shoulders.

What are KD’s feelings after the deal? How does he think the Thunder match up? What’s he thinking?

So he was asked if he had any thoughts on the trade and Durant answered the question exactly as you’d expect.

“Nah,” he said. “I really don’t care.”

You might think that’s just Durant trying to dust off the big deal and ignore the ramifications of it on the Western Conference. But nah, that’s just KD being KD. He’s confident in his group and the Thunder mentality is to just handle their business, play their game and that should be enough no matter what other teams put together.

The Thunder have a challenger, a formidable foe that’s going to make the West much more interesting this season. But Durant and the Thunder don’t care. Unless Howard was traded to his team, it’s just a ripple in the water to him.

Jeremy2
2012-08-10 18:33:06
of course he cares...he knows his window to win now have the lakers in the way again.   should be fun in the upcoming year and seasons to come
cleandoe
2012-08-10 18:38:40
 @Jeremy2 are you an imposter of jeremy1?
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-10 18:41:13
sounds like the pretty standard answer...what was he supposed to say? im scared? nah
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 18:41:43
Well.............. that last thread was eventful 
cleandoe
2012-08-10 18:42:33
 @EatSleepThunder its sad that i had to double check this was you
cleandoe
2012-08-10 18:43:43
 @EatSleepThunder hey you're not tc! why hasnt royce banned you yet?!
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 18:46:37
 @EatSleepThunder lol, thanks for posting this...i just went back and read the previous thread 
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 18:46:40
 @cleandoe You didnt realize it? I made that fake account myself. Thats how i had the same avatar photo. Thats also how I gave @brocksuede my full livefyre summary. And then it was all over when you guessed it. The other fake accounts though.... were not my doing.
cleandoe
2012-08-10 18:50:22
 @EatSleepThunder  @brocksuede omg i remember that know. you were right - unstoppable35 was pretty bad..
supreme35
2012-08-10 18:51:18
 @EatSleepThunder  @cleandoe  @brocksuede hey that's like my name! oh well lol
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 18:51:28
 @EatSleepThunder Whenever Lost Ones shows up, someone's going to have to fill him in!  I'm sure he'll have some choice words . . .
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 18:53:28
 @ThunderChick2010  @EatSleepThunder lol i'm sure he will
cleandoe
2012-08-10 18:53:58
 @supreme35  @EatSleepThunder  @brocksuede unstoppable just doesnt have the same ring to it supreme has :)
BrockSuede
2012-08-10 18:56:46
 @EatSleepThunder I knew you couldn't duplicate that pic! It was you the whole time!
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 18:59:33
 @EatSleepThunder  @cleandoe  @brocksuede "The other fake accounts though.... were not my doing."   And we're supposed to believe you . . . why?
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:01:23
 @ThunderChick2010  @EatSleepThunder  @brocksuede bwcause it was you tc! stop trying to cover your tracks by dishing the dirt on others lol
supreme35
2012-08-10 19:01:31
anyone going to watch the Dwight press conference?
AllDae
2012-08-10 19:01:55
Random thought but anyone think the 76ers can give both the Celtics and the Heat some trouble? The Pacers used Hibbert fairly well against the Heat but LeBron was strong enough to guard him, Bynum is a whole lot stronger then Hibbert and I doubt anyone on the Heat could truly guard him. They have a 10 deep team that I really think could surprise people out there. 
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:02:37
 @supreme35 how do i know its the real one? my head is  still spinning right now
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 19:04:22
so who thinks the fake accounts were a reincarnation of asie? lol
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:05:27
 @bmuelle21 no where near that bad lol. these were funny at least
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 19:06:03
 @cleandoe lol well thats good then
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:06:54
 @bmuelle21 hmm. that comment has me thinking
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:07:12
 @supreme35 when is it?
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 19:08:16
 @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  @brocksuede I'm going to channel my inner ou_sas with my vocab here: This stunt was egregious--an absolute violation of the sanctity of our DT realm.  You just don't seize another's identity and wrecklessly impersonate them.  Online trust is precarious enough as it is!
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 19:08:35
 @cleandoe lol i think these impostors have gone to your heard
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 19:08:45
 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe  @brocksuede There is no way I could keep up with 5 accounts on one computer. 
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 19:09:19
 @EatSleepThunder  @cleandoe  @brocksuede So innocent on the grounds of incompetence?  :)
supreme35
2012-08-10 19:10:09
 @Tricia_status twitter said 8 on nbatv/nba.com
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:11:44
 @supreme35 watching!
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 19:12:00
 @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  @brocksuede (I'm not really mad because this person was relatively benevolent.  But he or she certainly exposed a vulnerability.) 
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-10 19:13:37
howard press conference should be interesting
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:13:39
Kupchak just said he hopes to hang Howard's jersey in the Rafters 10 years from now
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 19:14:45
 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe  @brocksuede I still think it was Tronchaser, because he was saying earlier that he didn't like trolling unless it was him trolling. Or it could be Jax because he's the mastermind. 
supreme35
2012-08-10 19:14:53
 @Tricia_status Dwight is something!
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:15:17
 @Tricia_status i hope to marry a supermodel who makes a mean sandwich
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 19:16:06
 @cleandoe  @Tricia_status I hope to meet a pet gorilla that can do backflips!
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 19:16:57
 @EatSleepThunder  @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe  @brocksuede whoever it was a pretty clever, ill at least give them that...it was a nice change from the dwight to la and westbrook getting injured bad news
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:17:45
 @EatSleepThunder  @ThunderChick2010  @brocksuede bet it was royce. so he could swoop in and save the day and ultimately recieve more likes. he does care tc
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:18:05
 @EatSleepThunder  @Tricia_status *own #dtfantasies
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:18:13
 @EatSleepThunder  @ThunderChick2010  @brocksuede bet it was royce. so he could swoop in and save the day and ultimately recieve more likes. he does care tc
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:18:40
 @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder He looks happy...like he just might stay
Crow
2012-08-10 19:19:00
 @Tricia_status shaq has pretty much said put up or shut up, big talk and posturing is over, time for titles.
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:19:15
and he would have gotten away with it too. if it wasn't for cleandoe: the meddling kid :)
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-10 19:20:07
@Tricia_status @cleandoe @EatSleepThunder why wouldnt he? hes made for hollywood
Crow
2012-08-10 19:21:07
Hennigan might agree with me that McRoberts is a decent value.
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 19:21:12
This year is the 40th anniversary of the Munich Olympics where the USSR team beat Henry Iba's US Men's basketball team in the gold medal match in what is almost universally recognized as a stolen game.  Now of course there is no more USSR but I was really hoping Russia would beat Spain today so we'd get to play them in the gold medal game. It would have been great for our guys to just humiliate that team.
Crow
2012-08-10 19:24:12
 @Old Man Game ancient times. a somewhat new country. I saw that game.
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:24:15
 @EatSleepThunder  I hope to win the lottery, date a supermodel who makes a mean sandwich, and meet a pet gorilla that can do backflips. 
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:25:01
I think that they've given Dwight a Hollywood Star just for his Kobe Bryant impersonation. 
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:25:21
 @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder now thats just unrealistic
Crow
2012-08-10 19:25:51
 @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder i'll go for a supermodel who does backflips and makes a mean sandwich and likes basketball
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:26:40
 @Crow  @EatSleepThunder  I'd go for one that does all of that, and likes video games. 
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:26:43
 @Crow  @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder no, because she'd be a heat or lakers fan
Crow
2012-08-10 19:26:53
 @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder and thinks i am at least one of smart, nice, cute or funny
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:27:21
 @cleandoe  @Crow  @EatSleepThunder  I can live with that. Means even more reasons to play fight, and get a little "heated" up if you know what i mean. 
cleandoe
2012-08-10 19:27:56
 @Crow  @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder here you go: http://www.match.com 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:28:04
 @Crow  @EatSleepThunder  I'd go for one that at least thinks i'm nice. 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:28:57
 @cleandoe  @Crow  @EatSleepThunder  More like 30 year old women , who cry over cats. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTwcCVajAc
Crow
2012-08-10 19:30:05
 @cleandoe  @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder nah i want special delivery with no hassles. of course i get unlimited returns and restocking til I'm completely happy.
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 19:30:11
so...it's really not that hard to take someone else's avatar picture...just saying
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 19:30:46
 @bmuelle21 IMPOSTER!
Crow
2012-08-10 19:31:11
 @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder i am not a fan of "cats" but i like other members of that family tree
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 19:32:01
 @Crow You watched it?
jdstorm
2012-08-10 19:32:12
 @AllDae I have the sixers 3rd in he east right now. They have 2 guards who can create their own shot. Heaps of athletic wings, and the second best center in the NBA. They should be really good. 
Crow
2012-08-10 19:32:29
 @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder for some reason i get the feeling i might have been her before
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:33:14
 @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  I'd be down to marry a supermodel, who makes mean sandwiches, does backflips, likes basketball, plays video games, and would be willing to do stuff like this with me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3GribQCg6c
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:33:44
Now I hear the Lakers are pursuing Kenyon Martin too...What is going on!
Crow
2012-08-10 19:34:28
 @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder i'll stick to watching the supermodel do backflaps and eating sandwiches
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:35:49
 @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  Lol, I think that would be a good back up plan! 
Crow
2012-08-10 19:36:41
 @Tricia_status so kupchak found the conference final loss unacceptable and has added at least 7 new players. i can understand that logic.
Crow
2012-08-10 19:37:23
 @Old Man Game yeah live on tv when i was a kid and young basketball fan in a basketball crazy state
Crow
2012-08-10 19:38:06
 @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder as long as you know what you are doing
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 19:39:21
 @Tricia_status They trying to get Barbosa too... a Thunder killer.
Tricia_status
2012-08-10 19:40:39
 @MisterJohnsonOKC -___- 
Crow
2012-08-10 19:40:49
 @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder i could be down for jumping into a swimming hole together from a modest height  but probably only jumping once or twice and focusing on other stuff
Bryson
2012-08-10 19:41:16
Seven new threads today, could this possibly be a new record? 
Crow
2012-08-10 19:42:36
 @Old Man Game I first learned about basketball watching the Kentucky Wildcats play under Coach Aldolph Rupp. So I am old-school and just old.
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 19:43:25
 @Crow Wow, that's really cool.
Crow
2012-08-10 19:44:48
 @Bryson probably
persiansooner13
2012-08-10 19:44:50
only the real honey badge remains http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/post/tyrann-mathieu-dismissed-by-lsu-will-another-school-want-the-honey-badger/2012/08/10/fcd0a72c-e31a-11e1-a25e-15067bb31849_blog.html
Crow
2012-08-10 19:45:59
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @Tricia_status never stop tryng to improve... unless you have a plan that you've decided is so good it isn't worth doing anything major to...even if others are improving.
persiansooner13
2012-08-10 19:46:36
*badger
Crow
2012-08-10 19:47:12
 @Old Man Game yeah i watched the 60s celtics some, the early 70s ABA, the 80s glory years and everything since
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 19:47:25
 @persiansooner13 Where's C-Will at when you need him. He was the one saying how LSU dude was the Honey Badger just a night or two ago. I thought he'd burn out after he flamed out in the pros. It didn't even take that long.
Crow
2012-08-10 19:49:01
 @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder if she wants cats she can keep her apartment and just come over for a few hours a night
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 19:50:26
 @Crow I had no idea. This is great. I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way but your perspective on basketball just took on a whole new degree of influence for me personally. Seriously.
Crow
2012-08-10 19:51:09
 @Old Man Game ok. i don't mean to brag too much but i am trying to get use to being old.
Jooseppi
2012-08-10 19:51:32
 @Old Man Game Last time the Olympics were in London, guess who was on the US team? Bob Kurland and Jesse Renick, formerly of Oklahoma A&M. 
Crow
2012-08-10 19:51:57
 @Old Man Game gotta tell a few stories...
Jooseppi
2012-08-10 19:54:08
 @Old Man Game Renick was a Chickasaw, I believe, and the second Native American to win a gold medal. 
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 19:55:58
 @Crow No definitely. There's no substitute for experience.
Crow
2012-08-10 19:56:03
 @jdstorm  @AllDae they have to rebuild their chemistry though. they gave up some goof players to get the new ones.i think bynum and collins are more likely to clash within months than mesh
Crow
2012-08-10 19:56:31
 @jdstorm  @AllDae good. maybe goofy too but good
Jooseppi
2012-08-10 19:57:37
 @Crow  @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder It sounds like you guys could make some use of @bmuelle21 's escort service he plans on starting. 
jdstorm
2012-08-10 19:57:53
Just updated my personal power rankings, and Almost finished the eastern conference. Pu Pu platter seems appropriate. Now the only unanswered question is will chicago tank?   my current east rankings are  Tier 1(playoffs) 1.MIA, BOS, PHI, INDY, NYN,  Tier 2 ( borderline playoffs) DET, WAS, MIL, TOR, ATL Tier 3 (missing playoffs) NYK, CLE Tier 4 (Tank City aka you really suck) ORL, 15. CHA      
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:58:27
 @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  This dude lol. and the weekends too lol. 
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 19:59:12
 @Jooseppi  @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  @bmuelle21  I rather make use of the cat lady then. 
Jooseppi
2012-08-10 20:00:23
 @ElMexiThunder  @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  @bmuelle21 Cat lady doing the cat daddy? That sounds dirtier than my intent but I don't care to correct. 
jdstorm
2012-08-10 20:01:47
 @Crow  @AllDae All teams need an identity, so if everyone is goofy, they will hopefully get along. Team Goofy, like the 2000s Indy pacers or  Sac Kings.
jdstorm
2012-08-10 20:05:00
 @cleandoe Except the difference is LA got the supermodel of this analogy to go out with them. they just have to convince them to stick around in LA. For the most money possible
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 20:05:05
 @Jooseppi  @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  @bmuelle21  Maybe i like it dirty? 
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 20:05:08
 @jdstorm I don't know, do you think the Nets deserve to be advanced that high? Almost like you need Tier 1A for Miami and Boston and then Tier 1 for Phi, Ind, and the Nets.
Jokazc
2012-08-10 20:05:54
Ok,can someone tell me something about russel injury and will he play in the final?
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 20:06:55
 @Jokazc I heard slight ankle sprain, no word on status for Sunday. I'd bet he plays. He's got like 2 months to recover.
AllDae
2012-08-10 20:07:22
 @jdstorm No way the Knicks miss the playoffs 
jdstorm
2012-08-10 20:07:33
 @Old Man Game Fair enough. However two many tiers gets annoying and takes much longer. I also have no Idea where to put chicago. under this system i only have two possible choices   also i think that Dwill, johnson and wallace is better then 2/3rds of the east
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:09:00
for anybody thats wondering over the last 3 seasons Russ is averaging 20 ppg on 43% shooting against Dwight   just heard it brought up alot today 
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 20:09:57
 @jdstorm Yeah I agree with that. I couldn't see putting them with Detroit. But I can't see them as being on par with Miami and Boston either.
Jokazc
2012-08-10 20:10:10
 @Old Man Game I hope it's nothing serious.It's hard for coach K-you can win without russ,BUT its final!
Jokazc
2012-08-10 20:11:01
 @OBoymuzik and howard averaging ... (?)againts perk
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:12:04
 @Jokazc let me see
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 20:12:13
 @OBoymuzik I would like to know what the our shot distribution and percentages look like against Howard. I don't have the stats but it seems like we're a more perimeter to mid-range oriented team anyway, a point at which Howard's defense will be negated to a certain extent as compared to other teams perhaps. And then on offense we've got Perk to lean on him.
C-Wil
2012-08-10 20:12:47
 @Old Man Game Here I am :)
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 20:13:17
 @OBoymuzik  @Jokazc I would like to know what our shot distribution and percentages look like against Howard. I don't have the stats but it seems like we're a more perimeter to mid-range oriented team anyway, a position on the floor at which Howard's defense will be negated to a certain extent as compared to other teams perhaps. And then on offense we've got Perk to lean on him.
Jokazc
2012-08-10 20:15:44
one thing is clear to me...Nash will have to average 20 assist to keep everybody happy in LA !
jdstorm
2012-08-10 20:16:38
 @AllDae they were a .500 8 seed last year despite linsanity, and some non playoff teams from last year got significantly better
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:22:25
 @Jokazc Dwights averaging 18 pts 11 rebounds and 50% shooting in his last 12 matchups against perk...going back to when he was in boston 
Crow
2012-08-10 20:22:51
 @Jooseppi  @Crow  @ElMexiThunder  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder  @bmuelle21 if he needs testers to ensure about delivering quality  service, i might be willing to help out. assuming he is running a clean and quality business. jk
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 20:23:15
So how long dwight out for?
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:23:52
 @Lost Ones i think steven a said january but dwight didn't give a timetable 
duhsweetness
2012-08-10 20:24:08
 @persiansooner13 All other SEC fans are stoked.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:24:12
 @Lost Ones did you see your impersonator?
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 20:24:33
 @OBoymuzik that's a long ass time
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 20:24:42
 @OBoymuzik nope was at the gym
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 20:25:03
 @C-Wil Any comment on this development? It's sort of ironic given the timing of our talk the other night. I think we may have jinxed him.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:25:17
 @Lost Ones lol look around here http://dailythunder.com/2012/08/kevin-durant-leads-team-usa-to-a-gold-medal-rematch-with-spain/
Crow
2012-08-10 20:25:29
 @jdstorm  where is howard going to have it better? now i can see him possibly signing for just three years if he is nervous about the future. i care about howard on the court as an opponent next year but i am not going to sweat his drama.
cleandoe
2012-08-10 20:26:22
 @Lost Ones  @OBoymuzik you need to check out the last thread badly. i reccommend you click 'oldest' to get the full experience
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 20:28:11
 @OBoymuzik someone has a ton of time on their hands, i wish them luck
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 20:28:21
 @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik I see, interesting
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:28:47
 @Lost Ones dwight said at his press conference that he can't run right now..so that can't be good
Crow
2012-08-10 20:29:20
 @OBoymuzik that is fairly weak to the tune of costing the team about 1.2  pts per game compared to his average FG%.
Crow
2012-08-10 20:30:12
 @OBoymuzikruss vs howard stats:  that is fairly weak to the tune of costing the team about 1.2  pts per game compared to his average FG%.
Crow
2012-08-10 20:31:09
 @jdstorm a lot folks would have the knicks in tier 1. i probably would too but i dont really care about the east
cleandoe
2012-08-10 20:31:23
 @Lost Ones  i want tc to like this. to recreate the 'like rainbow'
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:32:54
 @Crow its hard to really tell anything from them imo..they've played 6 times in 3 years, Russ was a much different player 3 years ago and who knows how hard Dwight was trying this past season..we'll likely see them match up 6+ times this year 
Tronchaser
2012-08-10 20:33:14
I'd just like to say, "I really love cats."   That is all.
dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!
2012-08-10 20:39:27
I feel so unimportant, no one impersonated me....lol
cleandoe
2012-08-10 20:39:49
 @Lost Ones http://s1169.photobucket.com/albums/r518/cleandoe   see the first pic
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:40:37
 @dancassidy35/FreeLatWill! you had to have an uppercase O or a 0 in your name...unless you were @EatSleepThunder 
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:40:53
 @dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!  now i sound like i did it
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 20:43:40
 @cleandoe  @Lost Ones You and your rainbows . . .   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuSNxZb47Ns  
dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!
2012-08-10 20:44:41
 @ThunderChick2010  @cleandoe  @Lost Ones liked for last name
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 20:45:02
 @Tronchaser Just checking in, so I have no idea if this is an earlier-referenced inside joke or just a Tronchaser statement of fact.  :)
DennisBerry
2012-08-10 20:45:25
 @Jokazc He can do it. He averaged 10 last yr with the Phx scrubs
cleandoe
2012-08-10 20:45:57
 @ThunderChick2010  @Lost Ones someone printscreen it. im not at a computer now or anytime soon 
DennisBerry
2012-08-10 20:46:30
 @Old Man Game Dwight steps out on pick and rolls, unlike Bynum and Gasol, so that midrange jumper Russ likes to shoot off screens will be contested and obviously drive to the basket game greatly reduced.
dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!
2012-08-10 20:47:26
 @DennisBerry  @Old Man Game Like to see him pass off to a cutting Serge or Thabo than in said scenario
DennisBerry
2012-08-10 20:48:08
 @MisterJohnsonOKC They already signed Jody Meeks for 2 yrs 3 million too
cleandoe
2012-08-10 20:49:17
its so... beautiful :)
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 20:49:29
 @Tronchaser Yesterday, you said we needed more dogs???
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 20:51:34
 @Lost Ones  @OBoymuzik Sure you were.
jdstorm
2012-08-10 20:51:43
 @Crow So it turns out the knicks were a 7 seed last year. If anybody can make a reasonable argument about how the Knicks got better this offseason i will gladly listen.    Lin and Feilds left for nothing, and Raymond Felton is now NY's starting PG Meanwhile every other team in their division got better. Boston is 10 deep an loaded. Philly just got the second best center in the NBA by clearing a wing log jam. Toronto is 10 deep, is getting an All star level PF back from Injury. A top 4 pick/ defensive center from europe, and a top 8 pick who is a wing that can defend and shoot open 3's.  Brooklyn have joe johnson , the best player on a playoff level hawks team.    The Pacific is the hardest division in the east, and if new york cant get easy wins. in their division or from the west. where are the wins coming from?  
ILikePancakes
2012-08-10 20:53:25
Just listening to nujabes at night, not caring about anything, enjoying life.
ILikePancakes
2012-08-10 20:53:32
FUCK THE LAKERS
EatSleepThunder
2012-08-10 20:55:56
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/screenshot20120810at707.png/  @OBoymuzik I still need an answer. Teach me your ways of liking your own comments!
cleandoe
2012-08-10 20:56:00
 @ThunderChick2010  @Lost Ones  the grace youth ministries, duh
cemitten
2012-08-10 20:56:50
 @cleandoe PHOTOBUCKET FAMOUS!@@@!!!!!!
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 20:56:54
 @EatSleepThunder that was my imposter
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 20:57:56
 @Crow  @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder Got 2 out of 4 covered . . . but I've already given my heart away.  :)
ILikePancakes
2012-08-10 20:58:09
https://boards.4chan.org/sp/res/24346716   All the Lakers fans coming out of nowhere... sigh
cemitten
2012-08-10 21:00:18
 @ILikePancakes 4chan.  Risky click.
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 21:00:26
 @dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!  @DennisBerry Or, wait for it... Hollis Thompson. Per draft express' breakdown of the 2012 wings   "posting the highest scoring efficiency on cuts at 1.481 PPP and doing so on the second highest distribution of 12.9% of possessions."   From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz23COMR2tx http://www.draftexpress.com
ElMexiThunder
2012-08-10 21:01:00
@ThunderChick2010 @Crow @EatSleepThunder. Lol
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 21:01:07
 @ILikePancakes eh..... 4 chan so many bad memories 
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 21:01:37
Back issues haven't been kind to basketball players throughout history, hopefully dwight will be the first.
dancassidy35/FreeLatWill!
2012-08-10 21:01:39
 @cemitten  @ILikePancakes Whats that, Risky Business? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXFrWjySa6I
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 21:02:07
Laker fans claiming next years championship will make knocking them out in the WCF so much sweeter.
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 21:02:30
 @Tronchaser Ah, I see . . . you really just want to hug ALL of them.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 21:05:15
 @Lost Ones A back issue on a 6'11 260 + pound center may cause a problem. But then again he may turn out fine. 
neo12
2012-08-10 21:05:24
 @MisterJohnsonOKC Yeah definitely.  What would really be funny is if Dwight's back injury put him out for the whole 12-13 season, and he bolts in FA.. 
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 21:05:30
 @ElMexiThunder  @ThunderChick2010  @Crow Except now you gotta wonder which 2.
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 21:06:44
 @neo12  @MisterJohnsonOKC Whoa. That'd be something else.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 21:07:34
 @neo12 Nah, I want to take out a fully healthy Laker squad.
ILikePancakes
2012-08-10 21:07:46
 @MisterJohnsonOKC Best moment in my life: 2013 WCF, Lakers vs. Thunder, game 7, 4 seconds left, we are one point ahead, Kobe bricks a three, we go ahead.
neo12
2012-08-10 21:08:25
 @ILikePancakes  @MisterJohnsonOKC Book it.. Haha..
ILikePancakes
2012-08-10 21:08:37
 @neo12  @MisterJohnsonOKC YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST
incendy
2012-08-10 21:10:05
He will care when the Thunder are home watching Howard in the NBA finals :D
justin_mia
2012-08-10 21:10:26
If they meet in the playoffs KD will care, it'll be a whole new gameplan.  The tough talk is nice and makes for a good story, they're playing for a gold medal so there isn't much time to think about next season.  But the trade changes the whole dynamic of a matchup against LAL, talk is cheap in this case IMO.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 21:12:22
 @incendy cool story bro
ILikePancakes
2012-08-10 21:13:23
Kupchak is one of the best GMs. Jamison, Nash for nothing, swapping baby Bynum with Howard, JODIE MEEKS MAN
neo12
2012-08-10 21:14:56
 @ILikePancakes With an unlimited budget, he should be.  We'll gotta give him some props though.
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 21:15:14
 @justin_mia Great players think they can beat anyone anytime. 
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 21:16:48
 @justin_mia OKC is still the last team the Lakers want to face in the playoffs. They would dominate every other team in the league besides us and maybe Memphis.
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 21:16:58
Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbinsThe #Magic received a $17.8 million traded player exception in the deal, Hennigan said. Magic will have 1 year to use it.
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 21:17:18
 @neo12  @ILikePancakes nah those players are taking cuts all of them he is clearly the best gm
neo12
2012-08-10 21:18:02
 @justin_mia He's probably still in shock still and at a lost for words.  Yeah definitely a game changer, i just hope we have the personnell to give it a good run.  
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 21:18:42
 @Lost Ones  @neo12  @ILikePancakes the spurs GM (forgot his name) has a case for best and presti will have a case if he keeps harden and ibaka and wins a championship with this model of not signing old vets
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 21:19:11
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia i think memphis is going to disappoint this year
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-10 21:19:15
@Lost Ones woah thats pretty valuable
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 21:20:13
 @OBoymuzik  @justin_mia Yeah, they are def overrated, but against teams like LA who's strongpoint is in the paint and not many 3 point shooters Memphis could hang with LA imo. I still think we are the Lakers worst matchup.
neo12
2012-08-10 21:21:01
 @Lost Ones  @JoshuaBRobbinsThe Who do you think they can target?
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 21:23:02
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia for us or for the lakers? miami i think matches up worse with them than we do but they are a better team as of now
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 21:25:04
 @neo12 role players?  idk no one who wants to compete for a ring now
justin_mia
2012-08-10 21:28:03
All of the mongering is if the Lakers remain healthy and productive.  Dwight on his own makes them so much better but they're only a 'super team' right now if they can squeeze enough out of Kobe, Nash, and Gasol.  Gasol has had poor (relative to his norm) performances in his last two playoffs, and may be relegated to even lower usage now.  Nash hasn't been in a playoffs in a couple seasons (he was terrific last time, though), and he faded noticeably in the second half of last season. Kobe had his worst playoffs in awhile IMO last year, near-as-much as 36% USG and his lower scoring efficiency for him since the hand check rules.   All that said I think this roster has the capability (if healthy) to become better than a sum of its parts.  Steve Nash is one of the few players in the league who I think could induce Kobe into taking a smaller role handling the ball.  Sharing the ball becomes contagious on Nash lead teams, and having Dwight behind him makes it easier for Nash on both ends so maybe he stays fresher for the season.  Pau can indulge in what seems to be the role he wants these days, as Dwight and Kobe will clearly be ahead of him in shot-taking.  He can just run PnR with Nash and play fourth fiddle as often as he wants, Dwight can clean up the defensive boards on his own pretty much.  Dwight doesn't have to be a first option all the time on the court, and doesn't have to be a square peg into a round hole.     Nobody will really know until we see them actually play, but to me on paper this combination of talent and personalities could play off each other really well (unlike LeBron, Wade, Bosh for example, which seem to win in spite of not fitting all that well together).
reddirt717
2012-08-10 21:29:38
The Lakers are 40 million dollars over the cap, holy freaking crap. They're 27 million dollars over the tax! That's a 125 million dollar check that has to be written if everything stays the same.   So much for controlling larger market spending.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 21:34:52
 @OBoymuzik  @justin_mia I meant to say that we matchup best against the Lakers more than any other team in the league. We have a guy who plays Howard the best (nobody is stopping howard), one of the best kobe defenders in the league. LA has no answer for KD (Metta isn't stopping KD anymore), Who on LA is stopping RW? Nash? And who in the hell on the Laker bench matches up with Harden? Lol, I actually like the idea of OKC being underdogs, we seem to play better that way.
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 21:38:44
 @reddirt717 wouldn't be shocked if they get rid of pau after this season 
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 21:39:00
 @Lost Ones  @reddirt717 yepppppp
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-10 21:59:32
 @ILikePancakes Samurai Champloo!  Great anime series
Jameswade99
2012-08-10 22:00:07
So what!!! The Lakers got Howard. We still have solid interior defense. Bynum could at least be a threat to hit a 15-18 foot jumper whereas D12 CAN'T!! I'm more concerned that they added a better point guard in Nash and a solid bench player in Jamison. Their starting five can hang with just about any other team's starters. The drop off for them is after the 6th man. No depth. I think we still repeat as Western Conference Champions. I never was a big Howard fan, but now I HATE HIM. GO THUNDER!!!
Jameswade99
2012-08-10 22:00:49
Does it help when I type in ALL CAPS? I'm texting louder I guess.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-10 22:01:30
This is a sign from the Basketball Gods:  We need Kevin Love and he wants to sign with us
bmuelle21
2012-08-10 22:05:08
sooo...has anyone found out who the impostor(s) was/were?                        psst... TC... don't hate me... lol
El Prez
2012-08-10 22:09:30
KD can kid himself, but he's not kidding this guru. Last year--he did everything possible to get Shane Battier in a Thunder blue uni because He Knew we had/have some team TSN issues. If Battier had played with the Thunder we would be champions. I'm hoping after the U.S. beats Spain for the gold...KD will go to Presti in private and say something like, "We need some more TSN. I can play with Artest, Jackson, or Tony Allen. Let's get serious about winning a championship in OKC."
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 22:12:20
 @El Prez Okay. No disrespect but this TSN thing's getting old man.
Jameswade99
2012-08-10 22:18:48
It's not quite $125M. During this season, teams over the tax line pay dollar for dollar in tax. In 2013-14 the more punitive tax system is in effect. Using the incremental penalties, their bill would be $72.5M. Either way, it's ridiculous. Maybe LA is banking on Dwight being there for a year and paying $27M in taxes. After this year I don't think they have a lot of long term expensive contracts other than Kobe for 2 more and Pau for one. I don't know. I just them to lose badly every game now. Living in SoCal for the last few years has really soured my feelings for the Lakers in general.
El Prez
2012-08-10 22:18:54
It probably is getting old and out of rspect to you--I'll pull back on using the TSN acronymn, but here's the thing..which teams in football, hockey and basketball usually win championships? And I would answer the teams with talent, smarts, and mental toughness.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 22:19:59
did raja bell ever get bought out?
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 22:23:55
 @El Prez Well yeah. But let's be serious, mostly talent and smarts are what matters. If toughness snarl and nasty were really that important we could go get some parolees fresh out of the state pen. Doesn't get much nastier than those guys. 
Watson
2012-08-10 22:25:16
 @El Prez For the life of me, I could not figure out what the acronym stood for. I sat here and scratched my head for a good 5 minutes.
ThunderCityUsa
2012-08-10 22:27:31
@OBoymuzik yes
Lost Ones
2012-08-10 22:27:38
hold up Alex Kennedy only 20 how is that possible?
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 22:30:03
 @Lost Ones lol i saw that too i had always just assumed that he was in his late 20's early 30's and just looked super young
El Prez
2012-08-10 22:32:24
 @Old Man Game Think about how we lost Game 2, Game 3, and Game 4 at the end in the Miami series. The play in Game 2 where KD couldn't finish near the hoop because of a little contact from LeBron. The enormous mental gaffe by Harden in Game 3--and the equally bad mental gaffe by Russ in Game 4. To me..mental toughness in championship teams is having your best players elevate and make winning plays. Think about Pop pleading with his team in Game 1 of the WCF early in the fourth period, "I need more nasty out of you." Putting aside my TSN acronymn...I just honestly think our team is too nice.
justin_mia
2012-08-10 22:33:47
 @El Prez  @Old Man Game There were plenty of mental mistakes but those losses were filled more with strategic failings than mental collapse, IMO.
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 22:33:52
 @El Prez And I honestly think our coach is too dumb to recognize that a player with a torn groin shouldn't play that many minutes against a team playing one PF two SFs and no center.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 22:37:30
bad bad day for mister hennigan    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/222943/Report_Rob_Hennigan_Was_Not_Highly_Regarded_By_Spurs
DennisBerry
2012-08-10 22:39:10
 @OBoymuzik Is it that easy to move up in the NBA ranks? I'd start as an intern if I can be a head of basketball operations in 4 yrs
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 22:40:28
 @OBoymuzik Interesting that our assistant GMs are always being hired away but our assistant coaches, other than Ron Adams, aren't.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 22:44:07
 @Old Man Game mo gets an interview or 2 every year it seems
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 22:44:48
 @El Prez WTF is TSN?
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 22:47:10
 @bmuelle21 Are you saying it was you???
El Prez
2012-08-10 22:49:42
 @MisterJohnsonOKC I can't answer. It's in the vault. Ask Old Man.
MisterJohnsonOKC
2012-08-10 22:49:51
 @thelaughingwiseman When did K love say he wanted to sign with OKC? I know he's talked about playing with westbrook, but when did he say anything about OKC? I'm asking because I'd love K Love on our team. And unlike others I'd trade Harden / Ibaka to get him here.
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 22:50:48
 @MisterJohnsonOKC  @El Prez An El Prez-ism for Toughness-Snarl-Nastiness . . . or something very close to that.  TSN is very negatively influenced appparently if you publicly hug your mommy or allow other players to slap your behind.
El Prez
2012-08-10 23:05:45
So how were the male strippers in Ft. Worth? Do women get lap dances from these guys in these places?
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 23:08:21
When Sager asked Pau about the trade after Spain's game his first comment were talking about his friend Andrew before then talking about Howard. When he asked Kobe the same question Kobe didn't mention Bynum at all.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 23:10:53
 @Old Man Game this is my shocked face
Old Man Game
2012-08-10 23:11:48
 @OBoymuzik No kidding. Teammates are a means to an end for Kobe.
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 23:17:57
 @El Prez It said "Thunder" on the door . . . I was so confused . . .   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hxg6C3tpGc  
Watson
2012-08-10 23:28:43
 @DennisBerry  @OBoymuzik The NBA is like any other business. Get your foot in the door, and learn as much as you can. Take on added responsibilities to increase your role and rank in an organization, and plot a career path with the opportunities that are presented. 
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 23:28:51
 @El Prez Now when would we have had time for that . . . between going ape---- crazy and selling our bodies on the streets?
Tequila or Failure
2012-08-10 23:32:19
Segueing but Re the honey badger gettin kicked off Lsu: when are people gonna realize mj ain't worth policing? I graduated w/a 3.7 in engineering while smoking a ton of gr so don't tell me it causes all kind of harm & is worth dude's getting suspended (Jaz, Trey) or all together booted (HBadger). If you think the Beard & many other nba'ers ain't hardcore grassers you're nuts.
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 23:41:21
 @Tequila or Failure is that what honey badger got booted for?
Bryson
2012-08-10 23:42:02
 @OBoymuzik  @Tequila or Failure The only Honey Badger I accept is Russell Westbrook. Not this impostor. 
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 23:42:59
 @Bryson   @Tequila or Failure i don't like attempting to spell tyrann mathieu
OBoymuzik
2012-08-10 23:47:10
 @Old Man Game kobe's the biggest frontrunner there is..an asshole when he's losing and a happy joker when he's winning.
jder03
2012-08-10 23:49:13
I think I understand why Rob Hennigan pulled the trigger on the trade: He didn't want Miami-Oklahoma City for the next five years. In doing the four team trade, he gave the Lakers their big man (making the West tougher for OKC and giving Miami a shudder), the Nuggets a guy who can somewhat guard KD (not fully, but a LOT better than Gallinari or Chandler) and still make him honest on the defensive end, and the 76ers a center who can bully his way through the Miami front line. Hennigan may have not gotten the best offer for his superstar, but he sure mixed up the conference champions' road back to the Finals.
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 23:51:49
So did I understand correctly . . . bmuelle21 confessed to being the imposters?
Bryson
2012-08-10 23:54:33
 @ThunderChick2010 I think that's what he means. Does this mean he is also responsible for giving Tyrann Mathieu the nickname Honey Badger? 
duhsweetness
2012-08-10 23:55:20
 @Bryson   @ThunderChick2010 The student body of LSU is responsible for taking a goofy internet video and naming him that. TM actually went on record as hating the nickname.
Bryson
2012-08-10 23:56:13
 @El Prez  I really like this TSN thing you've brought up...we do need some more. But, do they get tougher and nastier than Russell? I'm thinking the KG is the king of TSN and Russell is the prince. 
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 23:57:00
 @Bryson Not sure about that.  So have you played any more basketball, done any more triathlons . . . perhaps competed in London?
Bryson
2012-08-10 23:57:34
 @ThunderChick2010 Haha, Summer league is over, and my next tri is in March, but Swim season is about to start...so that's pretty exciting. 
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-10 23:57:52
I want to see a defensive coach come in if I don't see any progress on defense.  I'm tired of seeing a great offense and no defense.  That is the reason the Thunder have been booted off in the playoffs.  They have so much length and athleticism that it's not even funny.  They should be coming up with tons of steals and turnovers.  Ron Adams is what would have one the Thunder the championship the last 2 years.  We didn't need one guy who could guard Lebron all by himself, we didn't need Ibaka or Collison to handle Dirk all by themselves in his run, we needed an all around team defense suffocating the life out of those teams.  Great offense and Mediocre defense makes for an end to a season with out a championship
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-10 23:59:41
 @Bryson   @El Prez You've gone straight to El Prez' second favorite acronym: BLD.  :)
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:00:19
 @ThunderChick2010  @El Prez Bad luck duck? I have no idea what else that can stand for. 
Tequila or Failure
2012-08-11 00:00:30
@jder03 Don't know how he could of passed up the 4 unprotected 1st round picks from Jersey, unless the Harkless dude from st. Johns is a future star.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:00:40
Believe it or not, Durant had to make lucky shots to win games.  With a better defense Durant didn't have to take that risk that would have lost us games.  I admire and like his shot making, but his arms should not be resting at all in the defensive end.  Maybe if he paid attention to the 3 pt line during games we wouldn't see so many 3's go in.  Hey Crow, can you find the statistic that shows the opponents (playoff teams) 3pt FG% against the Thunder D
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-11 00:00:59
 @Bryson   @El Prez Bad Little Dude -- as in how Kobe referred to him once.
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:01:54
 @ThunderChick2010  @El Prez Oh that's right...I remember this. He really is...he plays like a pissed off 5 year old that's been pumped full of testosterone and red bull. 
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:04:06
 @thelaughingwiseman Scott Brooks would make an outstanding assistant coach. But I agree...we need a coach that will push the Thunder culture of 'Never back down'. I wanted to see us come out in game 5 vs Miami and simply jump them from the beginning, see us flying around, playing with an 'Eff you' mentality. Didn't happen. 
OBoymuzik
2012-08-11 00:05:01
 @thelaughingwiseman i don't think you can use the word booted when we exited in the WCF and NBA Finals lol..and i think last year dallas was the far superior team..this year i think we could have beaten miami but had too many errors both by the coaching staff and our players.    we do need to improve our defense and it would be great to have a defensive coach to hold these guys accountable but they also need to hold themselves accountable. KD got dominated by gordon hayward in a game this year..James has had too many slip ups to count. Russ needs to know when to gamble and bring intensity more consistently.    The only thing i'm confident in is Russ being better on D this year..i think the playoffs and olympics are showing him how great he can be on D...he probably won't be at that level all season but i think he'll be considerably better than he was last regular season
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:05:30
 @Bryson I saw really hard screens set by Argentina in today's game and I was like "why can't Perk do his screens like that?"
duhsweetness
2012-08-11 00:06:25
 @ThunderChick2010  @Bryson   @El Prez The best Kobe quote on Russ is "He's a problem."
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:06:29
 @thelaughingwiseman This is so true...Perk loves to play enforcer when there's a scuffle, but in the game he doesn't play with that mentality...its frustrating. 
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:06:48
 @OBoymuzik In How many games did DAL and MIA beat the Thunder?  I call that a licking
jder03
2012-08-11 00:07:07
 @Tequila or Failure  First rounders from either would be in late 20s. I don't see why else he wouldn't take Houston's offer. Those picks could be late teens.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:08:32
 @OBoymuzik With a better defensive minded coach or Assistant coach you don't see those mental and physical slip up's by any of the Thunder because they would be trained and conditioned to play with constant high intensity.  They have enough energy to go for days, yet they only do it for a few quarters in every game
jder03
2012-08-11 00:08:43
 @thelaughingwiseman Without KD making his shots, I don't think we would have gotten past LA. Heck, the Dallas series would have gone six games had he not been on fire.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:09:19
 @jder03 With a much better Defense, KD wouldn't have had to make those go-ahead shots to give the Thunder the win
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:11:25
 @Bryson In fact, since he has the tendency to get injured during the back end of the season, why not give him a chance to rest up and give hard fouls and set hard screens?  That would really give the Thunder a much more aggressive tone, like El Prez says "the Thunder need more TSN"
OBoymuzik
2012-08-11 00:12:18
 @thelaughingwiseman it wouldn't fix everything...James Harden has gotten more minutes as his career has gone on because scotty demanded he become a better defender...so what did he do? he got good enough(not very good) on defense to get more minutes and got 1000x better on offense.   Perk could use a coach that holds him more accountable. Idk how much it would help KD and James
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:14:04
 @thelaughingwiseman Its like he needs a 'TSN' guy next to him to unleash him. Like KG did when he was in Boston. 
jder03
2012-08-11 00:14:57
 @thelaughingwiseman Yeah. Both Durant and Ibaka's one-on-one defenses are only average, and Perk can't guard outside of five feet.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:15:52
 @OBoymuzik Harden was playing against 2nd stringers, so he didn't really need good defense until he got to the playoff's where he had to guard the likes of  Dwane, Lebron, Kobe, and Manu  and you saw how bad his defense was at times.  The Thunder can already score the ball, they just need to have the set plays on defense to make it hard to score over and around their length.  Harden was an average Starter at best because he was going up against stouter competition with starting line-ups.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:17:15
 @jder03 Team defense is about the whole team working together and having defensive sets to push the opposing team out of their comfort zones and using their length and athleticism to disrupt shots.  The Thunder have not done that on a consistent bases
jder03
2012-08-11 00:17:37
 @thelaughingwiseman  @OBoymuzik Kobe/Manu/Wade are definitely all top 5 shooting guards. And Lebron is Lebron.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:19:04
 @Bryson I just Thabo was more vocal.  He has the defense to back up his talk too.  I don't want Westbrook to be that catalyst because I'm afraid we'd lose the Westbrook we have now.  Thabo can be a very pesky defender and very assertive if he wasn't so reserved.  He can come to accept that his offense isn't going to get better but that shouldn't deter him from doing what he does best and talking about it
ThunderChick2010
2012-08-11 00:19:39
 @Bryson   @thelaughingwiseman Our mentality is less Never Back Down and more Never Give Up.  If we had more of the first, we might not have so much need for the second.
jder03
2012-08-11 00:20:37
 @thelaughingwiseman The Thunder may be long, but both KD and Serge are thin for their positions as well. Both get pounded on defense regularly, and don't do the same to teams (Serge started to vs Miami, but it wasn't enough). Teams fear Serge's blocking, not his overall defensive prowess. Oh, and his infuriating knack of falling for every single pump fake.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:21:19
 @jder03  @OBoymuzik Harden is going to have to compete with them in order to get what the Thunder want, a championship.  Harden just can''t settle for being below them.  He has to raise his defense (and muscle mass because his body frame can do that) and be better than them.  It is not a large task to ask for on defense.  He has the attributes now he just needs to utalize what he has.  Quick hands (not fast, but quick), body to fill with muscle, court vision and can control temple on both sides if he were fit enough.
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:21:29
I'm starting to question our offseason pickups...I feel like we should have picked up Ben Wallace and Matt Barnes instead of Hasheem and Daniel Orton. 
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:23:02
 @OBoymuzik  @thelaughingwiseman  james harden is a terrible defender
jder03
2012-08-11 00:24:05
 @thelaughingwiseman  @OBoymuzik Definitely. I think Harden just needs to get a feel of playing against that top level competition. Heck, during the 2011 Playoffs, he faced JR Smith, Arron Affalo, OJ Mayo, Tony Allen, Jason Terry, and Deshawn Stevenson. Not exactly a great plethora of two guards.
jder03
2012-08-11 00:25:06
 @Lost Ones  Especially when he was guarding the best player in the world for long stretches on the biggest stage in the world.
jder03
2012-08-11 00:26:18
 @Lost Ones Other than that, he wasn't too terrible. He doesn't have exceptional length, which hurt him vs Kobe, who could shoot over him.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:26:30
 @jder03 6 10 and 230 pounds is not light my friend.  That can be morphed into muscle.  Ibaka may look lanky but that is carbon fiber he's made of.  They get pounded on defense regularly, that's just KD.  Ibaka just like settling for long jumpers, he doesn't establish himself.  Look at Jordan Hill, the back up PF for the LAL, he can get great position inside and he is smaller and weigh's less than Ibaka.  It's all about the foot work around the rim.  Ibaka has none of that.  KD is a jump shooter who needs to work on his hips and thighs to work on his hip positioning to move into his sweet spots, but hey! coaches don't notice that, they think that a few screens (wasting 1 or 2 players that can be doing someting else or getting into better positon to score) would do the trick.
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:26:33
 @jder03 yea or Jason terry, kobe, manu/tp/spurs bench/wade  
JimboSlice
2012-08-11 00:27:49
 @jder03 so.... either way he's stupid. You don't rebuild by "spreading the wealth" around throughout the league, you rebuild by making your team better. He took the worst possible offer for that purpose, and therefore, he is still an idiot regardless of his rationale.
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 00:28:00
 @Bryson   @El Prez Kenyon Martin. The Lakers are about to sign him though
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:28:03
 harden  is almost a liability on defense, not only is thabo starting by design he's starting to cover up hardens deficiency's on defense @jder03
jder03
2012-08-11 00:28:27
 @thelaughingwiseman That's why we are an up tempo and jump shooting team instead of an offensive juggernaut like the Spurs. If we were to combine their offense with our athletes, I don't think Miami or Los Angeles will have anything to say.
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:28:27
 @Bryson  ben wallace?
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:29:02
 @Lost Ones  @jder03 Harden is still in his doughy infancy, like Love was in his first year.  He just needs to tone himself and learn how to play with team defense and move players out of comfort zones when his opponent doesn't have the ball
JimboSlice
2012-08-11 00:29:25
 @Lost Ones  @Bryson  not that Ben Wallace is perfect or even close, but you could have inserted 99% of current or former NBA players in place of Ben Wallace and Matt Barnes and that statement still works
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 00:29:48
 @thelaughingwiseman  @Lost Ones  @jder03 KD is an equally terrible defender most of the time and one of the main "overhelp off corner 3 pt shooters 1 pass away" offenders
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:30:09
 @JimboSlice  @Bryson  I wanted a few veterans... but you know the reason why not
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:30:42
 @DennisBerry  @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03 KD can cover up his mistakes often because of his length 
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 00:30:53
 @Lost Ones  @JimboSlice  @Bryson Kenyon Martin would have been better. I have seen him and James yukking it up and dap hug after the game, so there's no beef there reference the whole Trina thing.
jder03
2012-08-11 00:30:59
 @JimboSlice Yeah. You can tell he hasn't been a GM for a long time with moves like that, sending out the best center in the world and not even getting the third or fourth best player in the deal back.
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:31:28
 @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03  you using kevin love as an example for defense didn't make me feel good at all :(
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:31:38
 @jder03 I'm saying that the Thunder are going to be that for at least 2 more years, and in the mean time they can start working on their defense.  I really wont Scott Brooks to focus on defense first.  The Thunder have the raw offense to compete with any team.  They need the defense to make them the team to beat.  He isn't going to do that.  He says thats the teams identity, but really they are just posing as a defense first team
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 00:31:47
 @Lost Ones  @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03 didn't last playoffs. Hell, even Delfino and Nocioni were going at him in the olympics recently.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:32:58
 @Lost Ones  @jder03 Not necessarily.  I used him as an example for progression of a player.  He beefed himself up now he is a top scorer and rebounder
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:33:06
 @DennisBerry  @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03 Olympics is a gloried allstar game majority of the time unless coach K tells them to bring the intensity, and he was respectable on defense outside of the finals where he was exposed.
Bryson
2012-08-11 00:33:37
 @Lost Ones Even at age 39 Ben Wallace is still an above average defender and a real hard ass. He's tough, he's a leader and he's a teacher. He would kinda be like this years Derek Fisher, just with hopefully less play time. 
jder03
2012-08-11 00:33:49
 @DennisBerry  @Lost Ones  @thelaughingwiseman It still humor's me how some of KD's biggest moments were because of his lack of defense. Look at vs Dallas back on premiere week. He hit the game winner, yes, but look at the shot before it. KD hard doubled on Dirk leaving Vince open for the three, giving Dallas the lead.
jder03
2012-08-11 00:34:16
 @DennisBerry  @Lost Ones  @thelaughingwiseman Dangit stupid apostrophe.
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:34:42
 @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03 Kevin love always had the attributes for rebounding, rebounding isn't an attribute you can perfect you either have the instincts or you dont.  
jder03
2012-08-11 00:35:18
 @Bryson   @Lost Ones Too bad none of our bigs are undersized. He could probably teach them a TON.
thelaughingwiseman
2012-08-11 00:36:11
 @Lost Ones  @jder03 Without toning his body he would have been stuck with 10 rebounds a game and 19 points a game (ass-pull stat predictions of a what-if scenario) but he actaully toned his body to get the stats he as today a legit 25 14 guy
jder03
2012-08-11 00:36:43
 @Lost Ones  @thelaughingwiseman He had the instincts and such, but there were always ones that he couldn't get due to lack of athleticism. Now he doesn't have such a problem.
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:37:38
 @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman he still lacks athleticism rebounding has to do with positioning and iq
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:38:49
 @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03 he averaged more rebounds the year before last year when he was overweight
jder03
2012-08-11 00:41:43
 @Lost Ones  @thelaughingwiseman Less positioning and more jumping, probably.   Honestly, I don't even know about Love too much.
justin_mia
2012-08-11 00:43:47
 @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman Love isn't athletic?  LOL.  Of course he's athletic.  Love had better 3/4 sprint and better lane agility pre-draft than Durant did and that's when he was fat.  Also better max and no step vertical.  Love just knows how to use his body very well.  
justin_mia
2012-08-11 00:45:11
 @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman  Durant and Harden both just have to try harder on defense and focus better, that's all.  There's nothing about them that precludes them from playing great defense.  Durant played much better defensive a couple seasons ago, I think it's a coaching and philosophy thing more than anything.
justin_mia
2012-08-11 00:45:58
 @Bryson   @Lost Ones Ben Wallace is toast...
justin_mia
2012-08-11 00:46:39
 @thelaughingwiseman  @jder03 Ibaka does not use his body well at all and he has skinny legs i.e. doesn't keep position that well either. 
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:47:03
 @justin_mia  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman Every basketball player is athletic , friend 
justin_mia
2012-08-11 00:48:23
 @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman Love doesn't lack athleticism, even by NBA standards.  The only thing I'd say about him is he isn't very explosive.  Otherwise, he's a good athlete by NBA standards, especially when you also consider coordination.
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:49:34
 @justin_mia  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman  once again Every basketball player is athletic , friend 
Lost Ones
2012-08-11 00:50:03
 @justin_mia  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman  I agree with Durant, i humbly disagree with harden
justin_mia
2012-08-11 00:51:44
 @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman What's wrong with Harden that he can't be a good defensive player?  He moves his feet just fine on offense when he wants to, he has quick hands, he reacts to defenders as well as anyone on offense - there's nothing about him athletically or physically that would prevent him from being good defensively with commitment and practice.  He's also big and has long arms.  
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 01:02:29
It's amusing to watch all the people that flamed me for questioning the Thunder's offseason moves and daring to question the draft pick suddenly scared of Dwight Howard and the Lakers. Welcome to the big leagues, where the best teams can make mistake after mistake, but then pick up A+ free agents and the Thunder have to fight for scraps and struggle to keep their own players who other teams are already courting. The Thunder can not afford to have an "okay" offseason and overpay a mediocre coach, they will start falling behind.   To face facts, last year was probably the Thunder's best chance of winning a Title. Harden or Ibaka will leave unless Durant and Westbrook agree to take less going forward. The Heat were not as good as they could of been last year because of a lackluster supporting cast. The Lakers will take some time to gel, but in the end will be a major obstacle, perhaps even better than the Thunder. The Heat are a better team than the Thunder. and got better with Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis. To Recap: 1)The team that beat the Thunder got much better. 2)A major competitor got as good as or better. 3)The Thunder signed Hasheem Thabeet and overpaid a coach.      
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:06:56
 @Hoplophobia I agree. Fans are on the Kool aid too much. We have to get over this whole only signing choir boys and being scared to go over the tax bullshit if we want to win. In fact, it is essential. If we don't have a title by 2016, KD leaves, I guarantee it, and probably to LA
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:08:39
 @justin_mia  @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman Do you really think Love runs faster or jumps higher than Durant though? Those combines are very close to useless, particular for guys who are going to be lottery picks either way.
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:09:27
 @jder03 Reports are out that the owner made this deal and took Hennigan out of it
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:12:02
Did James Harden break up with Trina yet? We need to tell him he can't date any females from LA or Miami this yr, possibly Boston too
OBoymuzik
2012-08-11 01:16:33
 @DennisBerry don't think so she was in london hanging out with kobe's wife this week
justin_mia
2012-08-11 01:17:03
 @DennisBerry  @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman In game?  Probably not.  Durant's explosive.  But Love is athletic in his own right, comparable to Durant at least.  NBA fans have a tendency to equate athleticism with explosiveness, and while that may be an important trait in basketball it's not the only one.
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:19:41
 @OBoymuzik Dur! I actually saw that pic somewhere. Well, we need to break them up. Someone on DT needs to seduce her, film it, then @ it to James on twitter. Take one for the team. I volunteer if nobody else wants to
JimboSlice
2012-08-11 01:20:51
 @DennisBerry  @jder03 hmmm... in that case, I'm calling foul on the NBA
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:23:49
 @justin_mia  @Lost Ones  @jder03  @thelaughingwiseman Run and jump, he is not even in Durant's stratosphere. Of course you can still be a great rebounder because there is more to it than that, but athletic is one of the last words anyone would use when describing Kevin Love's game
SeanzieCrews
2012-08-11 01:28:06
I'm kind of glad we get to fly under the radar again and just take care of business. Obviously Dwight Howard and the Lakers are not to be overlooked, they'll be good. But I am perfectly fine with the media attention and pressure to perform going elsewhere while we just do what we do; play Thunder basketball and win games.
thunderatom
2012-08-11 01:29:13
 @DennisBerry  let's just imagine that durant was in okc all by himself with eleven other x players and in a few seasons we traded some of those x players for russell westbrook, who has maintained the same level of production in his actual career, we'd be super excited. Then let's take some a few of the other x players and turn them into james harden, who let's say was on someone else's bench and won 6th man last year as well, we'd say wow we have our own legitimate big three, this is really exciting. but of course we cant have x playing at power forward, so lets trade x for the leading shot blocker in the league all nba defense and second leading vote getter in dpoy. now we've bought ourselves a championship. espn is lauding the haul of the century, players who are performing at exceedingly high levels at incredibly young ages have all been traded to oklahoma city. does presti stop there? no. he has a bench to fill. he trades x for one of the better back up pgs in the league, another x for one of these bench players in the league in nick collison, another x for an elite wing defender, he fucks up and trades an x for kendrick perkins but that's okay. and then on top of all that a top five talent x in perry jones falls into our laps, who plays just the style and position to unlock all of our most devastating lineups. this okc team has made all the right trades and has all the hype of the trade machine to have the entire league in a frenzy, who can ever beat this team????     that's what we have, im good.  lol. i posted this on another post, but i think its still relevant. 
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:34:53
 @OBoymuzik http://cdn.necolebitchie.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Screen-Shot-2012-08-10-at-8.15.16-AM.png here she goes hanging out with actual basketball wives.
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 01:44:59
 @thunderatom You forgot we signed a bunch of also rans while our main competitors signed actual contributors and got better with their additions. We kept the same incompetent, unable to make an adjustment, stubborn, feeling himself too much coach.
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 03:18:23
 @SeanzieCrews Just like the Pacers, when all that pressure was on Miami. Playing Pacers basketball........and loosing.
mb22
2012-08-11 03:34:36
 @DennisBerry OKC didn't/doesn't have the money to go get as you say "actual contributors." This is a helluva a good team, and only getting better. You're thinking in the mind frame that last season every player peaked, while in actuality most of the team is still ascending to their peek.  
mb22
2012-08-11 03:36:05
 @Hoplophobia Negative Nancy over here. Are you even a Thunder fan? Or just a life long pessimist? 
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 05:18:39
 @mb22 I guess being realistic is now being 'Negative Nancy'. What exactly is "Thunder Basketball?" A near complete inability to score in the post, running the same bad halfcourt set that inevitably break down and ends up with a contested bailout shot from K.D. or Westbrook that somehow manage to go in more than they should which makes everybody look like a genius.   Am I the only person that remembers Hack-A-Splitter in game 2 against the Spurs? If anything the pure raw talent of this team is being wasted. It pains me to watch it every time they come down the floor with the ball. Russel gets blamed when things break down and he has to make something happen. It's all on him to do everything and make everything happen. Sometimes it feels like the guy that only bothers to set a proper screen is Collison. I could go one and on and on but that would make me even more negative.
Old Man Game
2012-08-11 05:34:24
 @Hoplophobia  Well yeah if you want to get into talking about inept Thunder coaching you'll have plenty of agreement here. But to your original point I don't think bringing up the Pacers is really that apt of an analogy. The Thunder are legit title contenders having made the conference finals and now the NBA finals in consecutive years. The Pacers are and were at most a dark horse type of pick to even make the Eastern Conference finals let alone win it all.
Lasers
2012-08-11 05:41:27
 @Tequila or Failure http://www.iamagm.com/thumbnail/inline/144d7c97ae611fe150ac0a88463c1683.jpg
thunderatom
2012-08-11 05:42:02
 @Hoplophobia  thunder basketball to me is an apositional brand of fast efficient basketball that doesnt necessarily need to score from the post because of the ability of three top tier scorers to get points at the rim and free throw line. thunder basketball is its own early stages of development. We havent inserted harden into the starting lineup and only in the post season, experienced him as a player that could close out games and be a part of a crunch time offense. When that happens, in our way, we'll have another 48 minutes of hell on hands. This could all be improved with some more movement off the ball, and the realisation that westbrook durant and harden can all work for each other to get baskets. I'm almost sure they could figure this out for themselves, and hope that scott brooks realises it before they do, so we can get an actual halfcourt offense installed, as it stands though, we still have one of the best offenses in basketball. Thunderball is dangerous from all areas on the court, players have to be long and athletic on both offense and defense, and should cause as many turnovers as possible for fast break opportunities. Thunderball is having 3 playmakers on the court the entire time, players that create for themselves and others giving defenses a fit cos of the amount of options they have to defend. We have the personnel to beat any team in the league, and even though they didn't come in a flashy trade, we have the talent to beat any team in the league. lol idk if we have the coach though, the defense needs to shore up, and the lineups have to be managed better, but thats what being positive gets you, you can hopeee brooks improves. 
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 06:08:56
 @Old Man Game The original poster was saying how it was good that the pressure was off the Thunder because the Lakers got better.   That's ridiculous on it's face. The Thunder went to the NBA Finals. They may not be able to keep this group together much longer outside of KD and Westbrook. There is plenty of pressure on this team to win. Any team that says "We'll just keeping playing Thunder/Pacer/Whatever basketball" is basically saying "Because we got to the NBA Finals we'll just keep doing what we did." Is in my mind  a recipe for disaster.  Just being faster and more athletic and slashing to the basket does not work so well when there is a credible defender in the middle. 
Old Man Game
2012-08-11 06:14:49
 @Hoplophobia I think @SeanzieCrews was just looking for a silver lining, not actually indicating its good as far as on court to have to deal with Howard and Gasol with Nash feeding them and Kobe to boot.  
shiki
2012-08-11 06:50:50
spurs were the same level team with 72 wins Bulls in this board.Now it is laker's turn.  
ThunderSonics
2012-08-11 06:51:44
The addition of Howard only makes Perkins more valuable to OKC.  I'd be much more confident if we had a top level coach though....
TaoMaas
2012-08-11 06:54:06
 @DennisBerry    You're forgetting the main reason the Lakers re-tooled their lineup and the Thunder didn't..  The Lakers HAD to go find contributors or else they were never going to catch the Thunder.    Until the Howard trade, the Lakers hadn't done anything to cause any worry for the Thunder.
TaoMaas
2012-08-11 06:57:24
 @Hoplophobia    Of course we remember Hack-A-Splitter.  The question is, do you think the Lakers remember it?  Because now, Hack-A-Howard might become a legitimate way to nullify the Lakers biggest off-season acquisition at the end of close games.
MrRaysian
2012-08-11 07:07:59
i haven't read the commentating section all of the off-season because im taking the assumption that 95% will be irrelevant when the season starts, but am i the only one who thinks Spurs are going to be just as much of a challenge as the Lakers this upcoming season?
cleandoe
2012-08-11 07:10:23
 @Bryson   @OBoymuzik  @Tequila or Failure Come on Jooseppi. Like this comment to recreate the 'Like Rainbow' again. Is most beautiful when it is fresh :D
cleandoe
2012-08-11 07:11:30
 @Bryson   @OBoymuzik  @Tequila or Failure Come on Jooseppi. Like this comment to recreate the 'Like Rainbow' again. Is most beautiful when it is fresh :D
cleandoe
2012-08-11 07:11:49
 @OBoymuzik  @Tequila or Failure Come on Jooseppi. Like this comment to recreate the 'Like Rainbow' again. Is most beautiful when it is fresh :D
TaoMaas
2012-08-11 07:24:37
 @MrRaysian   No, I don't think you're the only one who is worried about the Spurs...and  you're right to do so.   Heck, I haven't forgotten the Clippers or the Grizzlies, either...not to mention the T-Wolves, who are also improving...and Iggy going to the Nuggets makes them stronger, as well.  Yeah, it's going to be an interesting season.  I think this coming year, more than previous years, will really put Presti's genius to the test.  He's gambled on Jones, Thabeet, Orton, and (earlier) Aldrich...not to mention Lat Williams and Pleiss.  If he 'hits' on a couple of those gambles, we're good.  While watching yesterday's Olympic game, I couldn't help but wonder if Tyson Chandler might still be on Presti's back burner.  He could be the antidote to the Lakers getting Howard.  Regardless, the pressure really isn't on the Thunder to make a move until we know whether we can sign Harden, Ibaka, or both.
Amuro
2012-08-11 07:55:56
Serge's response to being asked about dwight howard trade was hilarious.
cleandoe
2012-08-11 08:02:03
http://dailythunder.com/2012/08/saturday-morning-cartoons-trickbeard/
El Prez
2012-08-11 08:13:24
Foursome.
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 08:25:34
 @TaoMaas  @MrRaysian Don't forgot a halfway decent coach. Nice to see somebody else thinks Iggy to the Nuggets is something to be worried about. How the hell did Orlando agree to this steaming pile and still get left holding that terrible Turkeyglue contract.
doofUSA
2012-08-11 08:29:18
@Hoplophobia "If anything the pure raw talent of this team is being wasted"   that's really what it all comes down to   harden has to start, there really isn't any argument against it at this point   also i fear brook's complete inability to use utility players like perkins, thabo and fischer will always be an anchor on this team
doofUSA
2012-08-11 08:32:42
@Hoplophobia "If anything the pure raw talent of this team is being wasted"   That's really what it all comes down to.  Harden has to start, there really isn't any argument against it at this point.  Also I fear Brook's complete inability to correctly use utility type players like Perkins, Thabo and Fischer will always be an anchor on this team.
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 08:47:49
 @doofUSA Yes. More Collison, More Harden, less of everything else you just mentioned.
Hoplophobia
2012-08-11 08:50:35
 @TaoMaas Really? The grand strategy to deal with the best center in the league is to put him on the foul line and let them set their defense against the Thunder's cringeworthy halfcourt sets?
Legendary_Dork
2012-08-11 09:31:33
 @Amuro well....what did he say. we just cant take your word for it :P
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 09:43:46
 @ThunderSonics Yea not like Howard dropped 33 on Perkins last yr
DennisBerry
2012-08-11 09:50:41
 @mb22 Yea our big 3 are great. no argument from me there. I lovr what Collison brings and Thabo although he has to stop passing up open shots. Beyond them, lots of trash and wasted space. We have like 5 guys on our roster who are barely, if at all, proven NBA caliber players. Cole sucks so bad we would rather play a cripple Kendrick Perkins than have him see minutes. I still don't get what Hayward was bought in for. So I got an idea, let's sign 2 more terrible centers and a duplicate rookie talent to another guy on our roster, who himself is somewhat of a disappointment
TaoMaas
2012-08-11 10:11:22
 @Hoplophobia   I'll let the season decide which of us is full of chit.  I'm not worried.  lol
ThunderUppppppp
2012-08-11 10:41:59
 @DennisBerry those "also rans" happened to be cap-friendly contracts to allow us to be able to hang on to some combination of Harden, Ibaka, and Maynor next season. In a tight-money offseason we were able to haul in Jones III, who was once a top 5 talent and presented the biggest steal of the draft at #28 other than Sullinger to Boston. We brought in Thabeet, who was once a #2 overall pick, so somebody must have seen something in him, Scott Brooks and Maurice Cheeks are great coaches to get the most out of him, he didn't really cost anything if he doesn't pan out for us, and I'm sorry but was any player really going to thrive in Houston last year? Hollis Thompson and Reggie Jackson looked great in the summer league, and best of all, we get a healthy Maynor back, who many consider to be one of the best backup PGs in the league.   we may not have signed any big name "actual contributors" but we didn't really need to. where exactly would this year's big name free agents have fit on this team? D-Will or Nash? We've got Westbrook. Eric Gordon? We've got Harden. Sure, Hibbert or Brook Lopez would be a great upgrade over Perkins, but we don't have the salary cap space. A Howard trade would have been great, but just like Miami did a few years ago when LeBron, Wade, and Bosh all came together on big contracts, taking on a Howard long-term contract would mean dumping our whole current bench (arguably one of the best in the league) and signing a bunch of cheap players in order to afford him, let alone having to trade away Harden/Ibaka, Jones III, Maynor, and picks just in the trade alone.    Sorry, but I think you're forgetting that we have some pretty great "actual contributors" on the roster already.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:05:50
 @Watson  @DennisBerry  @OBoymuzik The NBA is like any other business. A lot of execs hire people like them and people that they like. Friends of bosses usually advance more than independents.   And good looking tall people tend to get advanced more quickly.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:07:33
 @OBoymuzik  @Old Man Game the nba basically has affirmative action quotas for interviews and hires. some teams do it to keep daivd stern off their back.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:08:10
 @OBoymuzik  @Old Man Game Cheeks probably won't be a head coach again on a playoff level team. Maybe a lottery team.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:09:31
 @El Prez KD better get in Presti's ear. He probably won't this year but if they don't win it next spring, he probably will.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:10:34
 @Old Man Game  @El Prez Presti is either too rigid or timid to change that.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:13:32
 @Lost Ones  @neo12 They probably will use only part or none. Hennigan is likely to try to get all the important pieces in the draft. It is good value and a good way to get the credit.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:16:19
 @OBoymuzik  @MisterJohnsonOKC  @justin_mia if randolph is healthy, i'll want to avoid them in the playoff draw.
Crow
2012-08-11 11:17:33
 @ILikePancakes  @neo12  @MisterJohnsonOKC and three other Lakers were open
Crow
2012-08-11 11:19:30
 @ThunderChick2010  @Tronchaser women who like dogs might like men or at least cut them some slack
Jimmyteryloke
2012-08-11 16:08:06
Kd> howard, Russ > Kobe , serge= gasol, harden> Nash
Thunderous
2012-08-11 16:45:14
We need KEVIN LOVE!!!
Crow
2012-08-11 17:59:08
 @ThunderChick2010  @Crow  @ElMexiThunder  @EatSleepThunder oh well. best wishes.
Treviedo
2012-08-11 18:28:29
Last time I checked Nash was 38 years old. I read a great article about Nash and the trade when it happened and to summarize; Nash is what he is because he looks to score first, pass second and he has the ball in his hands 95% of the time. Not sure that works on the Lakers. Didn't work for Stoudemire or Johnson either. Oh and did i mention he is 38?
OkcBaby
2012-08-11 19:10:31
 @Jimmyteryloke Dont know about the Serge and Harden part
OkcBaby
2012-08-11 19:14:44
 @Treviedo Last year he was 37 without DH and Kobe.  Just sayin
Timsnideer
2012-08-12 13:18:33
@OkcBaby @Jimmyteryloke Gasol is a little better than serge but harden is way better than nash
OkcBaby
2012-08-12 14:18:37
@Timsnideer When harden wins his first MVP ill think about that
AlexanderWest24
2012-08-12 22:35:37
 @Treviedo dude how can you say nash looks to score first. That makes me believe you dont watch basketball. Oh and that 38 year old avergaed 12 points and 11 assists last year. He'll probably average 15 assists this year when the lakers are running dust circles around the thunder and the rest of the league.
AlexanderWest24
2012-08-12 22:36:57
 @Thunderous Sorry bro.. Hes going to the lakers once hes done in Minnesota because.. well.. thats just what superstars do.. They go to the Lakers :)
AlexanderWest24
2012-08-12 22:39:42
 @Jimmyteryloke You gotta be a moron bro. Russ better than Kobe? Serge equal to gasol? and chocker Harden better than Nash? hahahahahahaha I didnt know there were comedians in oklahoma city. At the minimum KD is equal to Howard and Im being generous. Thunder fans are so ignorant its fascinating
AlexanderWest24
2012-08-12 22:41:03
 @Amuro Its hilarious because you know he was shitting his pants.
AlexanderWest24
2012-08-12 22:50:16
 @TaoMaas trust me bro.. the ball will not be in howards hands at the end of close games. Thats why you got nash and kobe. you dont need no one else to touch that ball.
Number 1 Collison Fan
2012-08-13 01:58:08
@AlexanderWest24 just cuz ur a bandwagon laker fan dont mean you gotta dis OKC and last time I checked Harden Russ Durant and serge all took care of ur bandwagon ass in 5 games. Howard is a choker and nashs pass first mindset isnt going to agree with the lakers let Kobe shoot offense. Soryyy thunder still got the west in there handss
TaoMaas
2012-08-13 09:57:29
Yep...LA is where superstars go...to die.  LOL