Thunder sign DeAndre Liggins and Andy Rautins

The Thunder announced Wednesday they’ve added two more names to the training camp roster as Andy Rautins and DeAndre Liggins have signed on with Oklahoma City.

Liggins is a 6-6 forward that spent last season with the Orlando Magic. In 17 games during the 2011-12 season he averaged of 1.9 points and 0.9 rebounds in 6.8 minutes.

Rautins, a 6-4 guard, is primarily a 3-point specialist and spent last season playing for Lucentum Alicante overseas. Before that he was a member of the New York Knicks.

The two additions puts the Thunder’s roster at 18. Only 15 players are permitted on the final regular season roster so it’ll be a competition between Rautins, Liggins, undrafted free agent Hollis Thompson and Daniel Orton for that final spot.

DustinMcWilliams
2012-09-12 15:37:12
YES! BEST SIGNINGS EVER! CHAMPIONSHIP!
Patrick OKC
2012-09-12 15:38:23
 @DustinMcWilliamsThe Bobcats are so jealous.  
Crow
2012-09-12 15:41:00
and Lazar Hayward and Cook and Jackson. Somebody might be traded or waived.
Jooseppi
2012-09-12 15:43:16
Thompson is probably the better option if the team is looking at these guys as swingmen that can hit 3s. Hollis has 3 seasons in college shooting 43 percent or better, both Liggins and Rautins significantly worse and significantly less consistent there.  If I had to put my money on one, it would be Thompson.
Jooseppi
2012-09-12 15:43:50
Thompson is probably the better option if the team is looking at these guys as swingmen that can hit 3s. Hollis had three seasons in college shooting 43 percent or better from 3., both Liggins and Rautins significantly worse and significantly less consistent there.  If I had to put my money on one, it would be Thompson.  
Crow
2012-09-12 15:44:10
as a college freshman liggins lead the draftexpress ncaa database in to/minute.
Crow
2012-09-12 15:45:06
didnt get much better in 2 more years. presti does not seem to have a to limit.
Crow
2012-09-12 15:48:31
only played 15+ minutes twice last season. supposed to be a good defender.
Jooseppi
2012-09-12 15:49:05
Rautin's statistics last season in the ACB: 34.1% FG, 33.3% 3PT 7.1 pts a game on 7.3 shots. 
Allen Iverson
2012-09-12 15:49:36
 @Jooseppi Oh, terrific. 
cleandoe
2012-09-12 15:59:02
 @Allen Iverson  @Jooseppi You. 2003/4 38.7% FG, 28.6% 3PT
Crow
2012-09-12 15:59:42
Liggins is another is a string of Presti looks at guys with fairly high draft picks (Hayward, Thabeet) or high school recruiting ranks (Liggins, Orton). I am ok with looking but want one to pay off sometime.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:02:01
Best prospect is Perry Jones who was the 7th highest ranked high school recruit.
Allen Iverson
2012-09-12 16:04:08
 @cleandoe  @Jooseppi That wasn't a good year for me!
Crow
2012-09-12 16:05:10
 @Jooseppi 75% of his shots in the ACB were from 3 pt land. His eFG% was a not hot, but not terrible 47%.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:06:52
 @Jooseppi his pattern was like cook's. almost 80% of Cook's shots were from 3.
Jooseppi
2012-09-12 16:07:07
Agent Billy Duffy represents Rautins, Thabeet, Cook and Jones.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:09:17
 @Jooseppi and Biedrins, Amir Johnson and Budinger. http://www.draftexpress.com/agents/Bill-Duffy-11/   though it probably doesn't matter. it might.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:09:25
 @Jooseppi some day
Crow
2012-09-12 16:10:33
Is Liggins exclusively a wing or will they give him a look at 4th string / emergency PG?
diddoff
2012-09-12 16:10:49
Attention folks, Darnell is back and he is about to break news on twitter:   Re James Harden's extension, Kendrick Perkins shared some potentially revealing info. Could mean something. Could just be talk.
diddoff
2012-09-12 16:11:33
Via Darnell: Perk: "We're getting close with James, and we're getting close to keeping our unit together."
diddoff
2012-09-12 16:11:57
Perk: "We're getting close with James, and we're getting close to keeping our unit together."
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:13:34
 @diddoff MEAN SOMETHING!!!
Crow
2012-09-12 16:14:01
 @diddoff That is either from Harden and pretty real or from Harden for his agent to pressure Presti.
diddoff
2012-09-12 16:14:48
 @Crow Maybe Perk is Harden's agent? That would be fun.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:15:38
 @diddoff Perk: I played for the title-winning Celtics. Presti: How much money do you want sir?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-12 16:16:09
 @Crow  @diddoff Perk: All of it. *scowl*
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:16:20
 @diddoff i'm kind of surprised Perk wants harden signed, makes his future uncertain.  
Crow
2012-09-12 16:16:50
 @diddoff Perk: i got a friend too. Presti: Ok, tell me the part about playing for the Celtics again. you know I was born in Boston and probably idolized Danny Ainge.
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:17:08
 @diddoff  @Crow I can see how that negotiation goes too.   Presti: "So how does 4/50 sound for Harden?" Perk: *glare* Presti: "You realize that doesn't work on me, right?" Perk: *glare* Presti: "Perk, you played injured this year. You were ineffective against Miami. What more can you say." Perk: "Well, I guess we'll just have to do what we gon' do."
Crow
2012-09-12 16:17:31
 @OBoymuzik  @diddoff yeah, might backfire but he still gets paid huge.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:18:27
 @ou_sas  @diddoff go on the injured list? that worked for perkins getting paid.  allowed fantasies about what he could do later when healthy.
Allen Iverson
2012-09-12 16:19:01
Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry Perk: "Once James gets here, it's nothing to be said. He'll see his family and that's all he needs...  
Allen Iverson
2012-09-12 16:19:21
Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry "So once he sees everybody's faces that's enough said."  
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:19:29
 @Crow  @diddoff Oh, I was discussing what would happen if Perk was Harden's agent, not negotiating Perk's contract.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:19:29
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @diddoff Does James have is his own swimming pool or yacht or island retreat? probably not. needs to get paid for those.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:19:58
 @ou_sas  @diddoff i know. i went to both by my choice.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:21:07
 @Allen Iverson  @DarnellMayberry til then i'll try to act like a leader and make positive news as the big brother
Crow
2012-09-12 16:22:36
 @diddoff Presti: you know I helped win that 2008 title for Boston.   Perk: Um, thanks.
Tronchaser
2012-09-12 16:22:52
 @Crow I like PJ3, I hope that one pays off.
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:23:21
 @Crow  @diddoff You know, Perk's been quiet all off-season. I suppose the least he could do is talk about keeping the team together and echoing KD's "He ain't leaving."
Crow
2012-09-12 16:24:07
 @ou_sas  @diddoff you are right.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:24:54
 @Tronchaser probably will
Crow
2012-09-12 16:25:03
 @Tronchaser maybe huge
ILikePancakes
2012-09-12 16:26:32
...Who
Crow
2012-09-12 16:26:41
 @Tronchaser want to see if he hits the weight / training in general. could be a really special near 7 footer athletically. like KD but a little taller and maybe now or eventually stronger
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:27:49
 @Crow  @Tronchaser ...I would be quite comfortable if that's where he gets to. Very comfortable indeed.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:28:45
Do the Thunder stop at 18 or bring in 2 more to camp? They might stop there.
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:31:12
 @OBoymuzik  @diddoff I do like how he's ignoring that factor. I know a lot don't like Perk the player, but I think we all love Perk the person
diddoff
2012-09-12 16:32:14
More Perk from Darnell: "We also pumped up about Eric coming back...He's more athletic. I seen him dunk the other day for the first time since I've been here"
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:32:22
 @Crow  @Tronchaser I really would like him to get to a KG ish esque build
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:32:41
 @diddoff If EM is dunking, that speaks well for his healing.
supreme35
2012-09-12 16:32:54
 @Allen Iverson  @DarnellMayberry I don't know how to take this. Is he saying once he sees his team it'll make him willing to take less?
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:32:58
 @ou_sas  @diddoff I don't think I've ever seen Maynor dunk in game.
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:33:11
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @Crow  @Tronchaser liked for managing to fit both ish and esque onto the same descriptor.
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:33:24
Could you guys imagine how elated you would feel if we found out Harden resigned?
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:33:37
 @diddoff good leave the dunking to maynor perk, you tear groins. 
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:34:04
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! That could be interpreted as a teaser.... do you have inside information?
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-12 16:34:17
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Absolutely horrible. If he re-signed, however, I'd be elated.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:35:12
I might invite Armon Johnson, Gomes, Ivan Johnson, Josh Harrelson, Fesenko...if any would come non-guaranteed
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:35:20
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! i'd probably troll Jenni Carlson, Bleacher report, and lakers fans and then leave DT until training camp
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:35:24
 @ou_sas Not about Harden, but I've been hearing rumors of a four way trade with Detroit, Boston, and Golden State.....
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:35:55
I'm intrigued by Liggins. Wouldn't mind if he got a spot over Thompson.
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:36:29
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! I'm intrigued by Liggins. Wouldn't mind if he got a spot over Lazar.   Fix'd!
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:37:21
 @ou_sas I agree. I was thinking of least valuable player, forgot Lazar.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:37:57
 @ou_sas  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! since i like fesenko, will you forgive my temporary forgetfulness with festus?
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:38:03
Hope that Perk keeps the goatee he's been sporting. I like the idea of a mix of that and his "Pharoah" beard
Crow
2012-09-12 16:38:41
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @ou_sas and the fourth team is... and any of the players are?
Crow
2012-09-12 16:39:18
 @ou_sas  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! feel fuzzy brained fesenko from unemployjment!
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-12 16:39:30
 @Crow I assume the 4th team would be the Thunder. Can't imagine it'd be true though. I doubt Boston trades with us again for a long while.
ou_sas
2012-09-12 16:39:52
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct  @Crow Unless we give them back Perk!
Crow
2012-09-12 16:40:06
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct unless they really like green and the draft pick
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:40:17
 @Crow i think Harrelson is going to heat camp. I like Gomes and Johnson, and Fesenko is really big. so yes. 
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:40:35
 @Crow  @ou_sas Us. Players : We give up Cole, Lazar, Thompson. Get Uncle Jeff, Festus, and Monroe.
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-12 16:40:47
 @Crow Yeah, but there is that whole "held back medical information" part. 
Crow
2012-09-12 16:40:56
 @Jax Raging Bile Duct they have let a once potent offense fade to 27th. hard to explain that and still say they are really smart / good
novelisticbee0
2012-09-12 16:41:17
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! I'm hoping Westbrook keeps the Mohawk.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:42:06
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @ou_sas i see. in the fantasy dimension beyond standard  time & space
Jax Raging Bile Duct
2012-09-12 16:42:17
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  Oh ok. So these are rumors that you started. Got it.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:42:22
 @novelisticbee0  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! russ needs a flat top. 
Crow
2012-09-12 16:42:59
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @ou_sas  @diddoff unlikely to and unlikely to be wise to see it either
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:43:02
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! i almost called him Uncle Perk, but i knew that wold be insensitive. 
Crow
2012-09-12 16:45:08
 @OBoymuzik havent heard confirmation on harrelson going to heat camp myself. they brought in some other guys for sure and have some other maybe bigs too. including whiteside who i mentioned for the Thunder's consideration. but i guess Riley is the one considering it.
Jooseppi
2012-09-12 16:45:31
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/_/id/8363717/dallas-mavericks-mark-cuban-believes-new-guard-oj-mayo-star "I think he can be a star," said Cuban, who insists he sees a long-term future for Mayo in Dallas. Probably one of the last things you want OJ Mayo to hear if you want Dallas to be good. 
Crow
2012-09-12 16:47:25
 @OBoymuzik "Kyrylo Fesenko is scheduled to work out with the Spurs next week, and may work out for the Cavaliers after that. The Hawks and Heat have also been in touch with the big man."   worth a look by san antonio...
Crow
2012-09-12 16:48:46
 @OBoymuzik The Heat, meanwhile, have been frequently linked to former Knick Josh Harrellson, but he remains unsigned. Over the weekend, we heard that the Heat are considering bringing Harrellson on board, but Whiteside's workout suggests the team is still exploring its options.
EatSleepThunder
2012-09-12 16:50:24
I think we are setting up a Liggins and Rautins for Monroe blockbuster. We'll inflate there value with our awesomeness then trade them at their peak for Monroe... it's a great plan.
Crow
2012-09-12 16:51:15
 @Jooseppi Cuban says some smart things. this is probably not one of them.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:51:31
 @EatSleepThunder how dissapointed will you be if Dan cassidy doesn't like this   ah too late
Crow
2012-09-12 16:52:36
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @OBoymuzik  @diddoff i am just so so
EatSleepThunder
2012-09-12 16:52:44
 @OBoymuzik I didn't do it just because he likes monroe, I also like him. How dare you accuse me of using cheap tactics to get easy likes!
Crow
2012-09-12 16:53:54
 @ou_sas  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @Tronchaser he should watch a lot of kg film. probably more than KD film but either is better than video games or clothes shopping / modeling
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:54:37
 @EatSleepThunder i like monroe but i like that guy the warriors drafted in the 2nd round better   festus something    
Crow
2012-09-12 16:55:19
When Thunder players don't play it means something in Presti's system... but when players don't play in other people's systems, Presti sees the possibility of undiscovered gold???
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:56:24
 @Crow i think with hollis and rautins he's trying to find the next steve novak to replace cook
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:57:39
 @Crow Liggins over that tall PG option if Maynor walks. RJ will probably get that spot but I'd like Liggins to at least get the audition there. 
cleandoe
2012-09-12 16:57:53
 @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder  'It's a FESTUS Festivus for the rest of us FESTUS fans!' lol
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 16:58:28
 @Crow i want to know why we didn't invite James Anderson to camp before the hawks did
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:58:58
 @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder Listen, for those of us that enjoy Festus and Seinfeld, thats a terrific line
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 16:59:29
 @Crow Liggins could be that tall PG option if Maynor walks. RJ will probably get that spot but I'd like Liggins to at least get the audition there. 
Crow
2012-09-12 16:59:29
 @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder did Presti try to trade up to get Monroe in 2010? He got or settled for Aldrich. Passed on Ed Davis to take Cole. May or may not have been a good choice there or generally.
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 17:00:00
 @Crow  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder He should have moved up the four more spots for Monroe.
cleandoe
2012-09-12 17:00:16
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder Keep telling yourself that. It might just cushion some of the pain.
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 17:00:34
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @Crow  @cleandoe  @EatSleepThunder ah cole was a good fall back plan...worked out well 
Crow
2012-09-12 17:00:36
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder but how much more would you  have been willing to pay? another future first rounder?
Crow
2012-09-12 17:01:05
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder if i was detroit i would have said no to most offers
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 17:01:17
 @Crow  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder Jeff, Krstic, Thabo (his second defensive team year)
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 17:01:31
 @Crow  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder Not all of them, just pieces we could have offered.
EatSleepThunder
2012-09-12 17:01:57
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @Crow  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik Not Thabo! He's one of my favorites. He is so under rated.
Crow
2012-09-12 17:02:38
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik  @EatSleepThunder maybe Dumars could have swayed. but probably not
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 17:02:44
 @EatSleepThunder  @Crow  @cleandoe  @OBoymuzik Trust me, I love Thabo too. But if its between him and Monroe.....
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 17:02:59
full darnell article on Perks comments http://blog.newsok.com/thunderrumblings/2012/09/12/perkins-on-harden-extension-were-getting-close/
OkcBaby
2012-09-12 17:04:33
 @diddoff Cheah, U know what time it is
Crow
2012-09-12 17:04:52
 @Jooseppi Mayo had the baggage of a expected to be star.
Crow
2012-09-12 17:07:25
 @OBoymuzik probably a good idea for Darnell to do a favor for one of  the brotherhood before the season. try to prime the story pump for the next season. and i guess now Clay's family is no longer his ultimate boss.
cleandoe
2012-09-12 17:08:36
DO YOU KNOW WHEN YOU WILL VOTE? ARE YOU GOING TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT? THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION OF YOUR LIFE VOTE NOW   (on the DT fantasy poll. See the far right)   --  ya boy, cleandoe
OkcBaby
2012-09-12 17:08:54
Since we already know the 2 out of 3 coming back.  Oh yea pumped! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKKN3ok4OE4
dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!
2012-09-12 17:09:45
Lazar, Orton, Thabeet, Liggins, Thompson, Rautins.   Six men, three spots.    Goodbye Lazar, Orton, and Rautins
OkcBaby
2012-09-12 17:10:07
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Rautins may challenge Cook
OkcBaby
2012-09-12 17:10:30
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Little bit of competition may light a fire under him
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 17:11:42
 @cleandoe anyone who doesn't vote in the next 12 hours will not be able to bid on KD, Russ, Harden or Ibaka!!!   (thats how you do it cleandoe)   -- ya boy, Oboymuzik
OBoymuzik
2012-09-12 17:15:19
hey @Jooseppi they said your impersonators name on TBJ again yesterday
Crow
2012-09-12 17:16:59
never heard any Thunder player make a pitch to bring Fisher back...did I miss that?
Crow
2012-09-12 17:17:45
i assume they all sided with Eric
Crow
2012-09-12 17:19:04
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! of the 6, only 2 deserve to be in the conversation in the first place
areayewhy
2012-09-12 17:19:46
 @Crow probably
Crow
2012-09-12 17:19:50
 @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!! Orton and Thompson.  Maybe Liggins.
Crow
2012-09-12 17:21:28
 @areayewhy there might be some scenario whereby Presti / Brooks turn to Fisher again mid-season if there is injury.
Crow
2012-09-12 17:22:08
 @areayewhy or trade
Crow
2012-09-12 17:23:05
 @areayewhy does not look like anyone else is going for him, especially at anything over the minimum. Presti was the last to do that.
areayewhy
2012-09-12 17:23:26
 @Crow I don't see us picking up a pg during the season. We have reggie as the 3rd pg and he'll be better.
Crow
2012-09-12 17:23:45
 @areayewhy it is only a remote possibility
ThunderChick2010
2012-09-12 17:24:27
 @Crow I know we don't have room for Fisher--and I don't prefer him over Maynor--but I can't help but feel he brought something to our team that will be missed.  Just thinking of all the times I saw him talking intensely to our guys courtside during timeouts. 
areayewhy
2012-09-12 17:24:37
 @Crow I'd be a proponent of bringing him in for pre game pep talks
ThunderChick2010
2012-09-12 17:26:15
 @cleandoe   STILL UNABLE TO VOTE   (on the DT fantasy poll)   -- ya mom, TC
Allen Iverson
2012-09-12 17:28:08
http://dailythunder.com/2012/09/perk-thunder-are-getting-close-on-hardens-extension/
ThunderChick2010
2012-09-12 17:29:16
 @Allen Iverson  Hey, no joke.  :)
ThunderChick2010
2012-09-12 17:38:42
 @ou_sas  @dancassidy35/FreeFezzyFel from GSW!!!  @Crow  @Tronchaser That was a very dancassidy35-ish-esque thing to do.
Crow
2012-09-12 18:16:04
 @ThunderChick2010  @Crow sure, guys can have impact in one season and some residual impact on team growth and cultural development. it was an understandable choice last season. one season was probably enough. but some sites make it sound like the door is not 100% shut so i briefly brought it up.
OkcBaby
2012-09-12 18:30:16
 @ThunderChick2010  @Crow Wouldnt mind him coaching
walkerdog
2012-09-13 08:49:04
Liggins is a really good athlete
cleandoe
2012-09-13 16:10:43
 @ThunderChick2010 No women's rights, yet? Damn #it'sahardknocklife   -- ya little boy, cleandoe