Thunder fall to the Mavs, 104-89

Well, that was just ugly.

The Mavericks started this game playing really small with three guards and Dirk at center. With Adams, Kanter and Gibson all playing significant minutes, in theory the Thunder should’ve matched up well against Dallas. That wasn’t the case at all. The Thunder never really got into an offensive rhythm and seemed sluggish at times. This four day, three game road trip has been rough really tough for OKC.

Russell Westbrook had a pretty off night for his standards. He had a nice stat line of 29 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 steals and a block, but he shot an inefficient 8-of-24 from the field and 2-of-10 from behind the arc. Adams and Kanter were the only other Thunder players that scored in double digits. Adams had a good night with 19 points, 5 rebounds. Russ was making a concerted effort to get Adams involved. He posted up on Dirk for several occasions and I really like seeing Adam involved in the offense. Kanter probably had the best night for the team with 16 points, 10 rebounds, 2 assists and a steal. He probably should’ve played more than 19 minutes in this one.

The Mavericks played with energy, effort and hustle tonight. They’re still battling right now for that last playoff spot in the West. Their roster is comprised of eight players that went undrafted and three players that got selected in the second round. Seth Curry has really hit a groove lately and has averaged 19 points per game since the All-Star break. He had a really great night with 21 points, 1 rebound, 1 assist and 1 steal on 10-of-16 from the field. Dirk Nowitzki turned the clock back in this game. He announced earlier this week that he’s planning on returning for his 20th season next year and it looks like he still has a decent amount left the tank with 18 points, 12 rebounds and 3 assists.

I was surprised the Thunder didn’t go small to match Dallas. This might be something Billy Donovan does eventually when Oladipo returns. The Thunder offense couldn’t keep up and they needed to try something different. When the Thunder offense is struggling it often seems like it’s rooted in that the Thunder aren’t running plays that often. The offense revolves too much around Russ running high screen pick and rolls with a big and him improvising. It’s just too predictable. There are very few plays that are run for guys like Abrines or McDermott to get them open looks.

The Thunder were +14 in free throws attempted, +11 in rebounds, +14 in fast break points and +12 in points in the paint. They were able to play to their strengths with more traditional bigs, but they really, really struggled to score. They shot a miserable 9% from behind the arc and Dallas capitalized.

Notes

  • The Thunder need some Victor Oladipo in their life right about now. He’s missed six consecutive games because of back spasms. Hopefully he’s back soon, this team hasn’t been very feathery as of late.
  • Russ got the line 13 times. He’s done a great job of getting the line this season and this is his fifth straight game of making 10+ free throws.
  • Taj Gibson probably should be starting for the rest of the season. Domas continues to struggle and I don’t think it will stunt his development to put him with the second unit for the rest of this season. The Thunder need to start gearing up for the playoffs and I think Gibson would be maximized best as a starter.
  • Per Royce Young, “Thunder suffer their seventh straight road loss.” They’re playing the Nets next on the road, so at least they’re likely to not suffer an eighth consecutive road loss.

Next up: Home against the Blazers on Tuesday

RoyceYoung
2017-03-05 23:36:00
So, talk to me about this commenting system. We not fans?
Last Chance
2017-03-05 23:43:00
Yeah, it hasn't been popular. There's a Discord chat that a lot of people are using. Disqus just isn't great for live commenting, which is what a lot of people are looking for (both basketball and non-basketball discussion)
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-05 23:52:00
the non-automatic updates are really the biggest problem. Livefyre worked so well because it helped things flow, even if the server did get bogged down and refreshing was necessary. Having an auto-updating system benefits the traffic, especially during game threads. The commenting system as it is now won't work at all for peak times / during games.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-05 23:54:00
However, I am aware that there aren't exactly very many viable options out there for commenting communities now that Livefyre is no longer being supported. I think someone/multiple people may be thinking about writing a commenting system, but I can't be for sure.
Style Icon (#StartZachFaction)
2017-03-05 23:59:00
Agree with the others. Not live updating comments means you lose a lot of the conversational feel that made coming here special.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:02:00
Go talk to the folks on discord. They left. If you want them.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:03:00
We didn't leave.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:03:00
Most have. 80-100% of the way.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:04:00
People still read the articles; but the community is still largely intact until an alternative can be implemented for the peak traffic times. Discord is simply a temporary medium.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:05:00
Or read what people have been saying for what 5-7 days.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:08:00
I dunno about temporary... big push needed to reverse, perhaps... perhaps too late...
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:09:00
If a live commenting system was reintroduced, I am confident that the traffic would flow back through to the site. Discord isn't universally liked and Livefyre was definitely preferred.
Hamfists
2017-03-06 00:16:00
Yeah it's amazing how much stuff I'm getting done without livefyre constantly distracting me..if you don't feed us some more heroin Royce..we're gonna kick the habit
Thunder Blue
2017-03-06 00:18:00
McDermott is the new Singler
Thunder Blue
2017-03-06 00:19:00
the only real pain point for me is the need to click for new replies. If new comments auto-loaded it would be just like Livefyre only faster and better.
Thunder Blue
2017-03-06 00:20:00
The Discord crowd will return when the playoffs start and they get tired of their new toy
Thunder Blue
2017-03-06 00:22:00
Part of the commenting slump is also due to the Thunder dropping 7 road games in a row
Crow
2017-03-06 00:22:00
Would more articles FROM "the community" help? Perhaps. Some of the writers never to my knowledge interact with the community. Their writing is still a contribution but the lack of interaction creates a we / they split which split, for now.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:25:00
Presti... hmm I see an asset that fits my values. Doesn't matter that they are a reject from somewhere that probably had values. My values & vision will change all that...
Crow
2017-03-06 00:27:00
So talk back when you've heard / read enough...
Crow
2017-03-06 00:35:00
About 2,000 total posts in last 4 days. Traffic probably down 80-90% compared to recent times on livefyre.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:37:00
This is because of how much people hate Disqus and the fact that a medium was created with a more fluid approach. Discord has had a lot of traffic during game times / peak hours, just like Livefyre did.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:38:00
Disqus is pretty universally disliked. Discord may not be a great option, but it's the best option as of right now, until something better can be implemented. Hypercomments.com is a great idea.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:39:00
Royce, Idk if he told you, but John was going to recommend Hypercomments.com apparently. They have a live demo that is really close to what Livefyre brought us.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:39:00
for the live demo: https://www.hypercomments.com/en/demo?type=blogs
Crow
2017-03-06 00:40:00
Did you go to Discord Royce? Hope the conversation was more sustained there than here.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:44:00
Tested 4 days ago. Hipster poster and Emma Watson approved.
harmlesslyfatal
2017-03-06 00:45:00
Had to test the gif embed ability somehow... why not with Emma?
Crow
2017-03-06 00:47:00
good enough choice. not ordinarily moved by her but she was convincing that hypercomments are yummy.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:50:00
Anna Kournikova seems comfortable with it too.
Crow
2017-03-06 00:53:00
"Didn't go small..." ? Maybe not as small but they did not play as tall as usual. Not sure which would have been better. The muddy middle didn't work.
Crow
2017-03-06 01:08:00
You know the song, but have you seen the crunchy metal video? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=t1uhvVbhA-I
Spencer Pezdis
2017-03-06 01:15:00
do something royce! this place is dying. i tried the discord thing again yesterday and it was full of people shouting answers at a quizbot. it was like watching the people you know turn into zombies. I've been stubbornly hanging out here but most things i post end up with no reaction . maybe sometimes you'll get a like 6 hours after you comment. the top comment of the night might even get 4 likes!! something needs to happen
Spencer Pezdis
2017-03-06 01:20:00
bulls fans despised him for some reason. maybe it's because he's a shooter that doesn't shoot well
Thunder Blue
2017-03-06 02:21:00
looks workable
The_FU
2017-03-06 02:35:00
Are we all happy with seventh seed
Meh...
2017-03-06 05:38:00
Looks like teams have found out how to defeat OKC. Go Patrick Beverly on Russ and harass the shit out of him and deliberately make him loose his temper. Then double team him for good measure, you'll take his attention away from the game.
Thunder Blue
2017-03-06 06:17:00
teams have been trying that for years. Sometimes it works but most of the time it does not
justin_mia
2017-03-06 06:19:00
Hypercomments hasn't been updated in 7 months and does not appear to be well supported. The closest thing to Livefyre is probably Facebook commenting.
saillc
2017-03-06 06:21:00
As per reddit commenter, he saw dipo in church in Tulsa Sunday. He was struggling to walk, and was constantly trying to stretch his back out. He was with his mother and after talking to the them it seems like there is something more serious than back spasms going on and we shouldn't expect him back for at least another week, probably more.
justin_mia
2017-03-06 06:22:00
Other issues with Disqus besides live commenting: inability to format text, gets really slow after 400-500 comments (game threads and bolts can regularly surpass 2000+ here), comments get sorted by when you begin typing the comment not when you finish. i.e. if you are posting a long post on something and while you do so 10 other people have commented, yours appears on the bottom. At least, in my testing this is the case.
ThunderChick2010
2017-03-06 07:57:00
Good morning, DT. 😁
propsizzle
2017-03-06 07:57:00
good morning, TC!
justin_mia
2017-03-06 08:00:00
discord is a little silly but we've had a lot of the same sort of basketball talk there that happened here regularly-- amidst all the other nonsense. livefyre allowed for more organized discussion since it was threaded. it also seems to me that the 'closer' nature of that type of communication reduces the tendency to troll.
ThunderChick2010
2017-03-06 08:03:00
Which do you think is less troll-friendly?
Eallen7
2017-03-06 08:16:00
"Per Royce Young, “Thunder suffer their seventh straight road loss.” They’re playing the Nets next on the road, so at least they’re likely to not suffer an eighth consecutive road loss." looooooooooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllll yeaa sure that's a given....
propsizzle
2017-03-06 08:16:00
optimism, ellen. optimism.
Eallen7
2017-03-06 08:17:00
there is no joy in thunderville, mighty westbrook has struck out
Lostonesdagawd
2017-03-06 08:23:00
0-3 since switching to discus
Eallen7
2017-03-06 08:23:00
... Norris cole
Voeg
2017-03-06 08:23:00
Still > Semaj
Eallen7
2017-03-06 08:26:00
no fight here, and cole>payne
propsizzle
2017-03-06 08:54:00
does that mean this losing streak isn't presti's fault?
Lostonesdagawd
2017-03-06 08:55:00
presti fault for taking time from Royce.
cdspark
2017-03-06 09:04:00
What is Russell's Technical foul issue? Isn't he close to having to sit a game?
AlexR44
2017-03-06 09:09:00
If this last tech doesn't get rescinded, he'll be at 15 for the season. But I see no reason why this tech won't get rescinded. He didn't hit the ref when he threw the ball, and it was a bounce pass, not a direct pass.
BallSoHard
2017-03-06 09:10:00
Ref said the tech was on him throwing the ball at Curry, not the ref.
AlexR44
2017-03-06 09:11:00
And Westbrook could always retort that the pass was in the ref's direction. And then Westbrook could show the NBA his turnover numbers which would prove that his passes don't always reach their intended targets.
RoyceYoung
2017-03-06 09:38:00
Yep, checking into this one today.
KetelOne
2017-03-06 09:39:00
except when Russ is throwing to the ref halfway across the court
The Real Fake Seinfeld
2017-03-06 09:39:00
Yeah, Disqus isn't a problem at all
KetelOne
2017-03-06 09:39:00
We feathery!
Cybrook
2017-03-06 09:56:00
I tweeted Cuban and the mavs to ask when they will relinquish dirk's MVP since cuban's criteria is 50 wins and a first round playoff series win. 42 win warriors were too much to handle.
The Real Fake Seinfeld
2017-03-06 10:00:00
The thing about Cuban is that he is a lucky idiot
KetelOne
2017-03-06 10:07:00
IMO Cuban knows Russ is an All Star but also knows Russ's tendency to be a hot head and do dumb things, so Cuban takes the troll stance about it to gain a psychological advantage. Dallas has done other things in the past to provoke Russ. There is a consistent pattern of prodding here.
The Real Fake Seinfeld
2017-03-06 10:12:00
I agree that his "troll stance" has an effect but does it have a positive effect for the Mavs? I'm not so sure, even with yesterday's results
KetelOne
2017-03-06 10:20:00
Cuban kept Russ under 40 points and he didn't get a TD
propsizzle
2017-03-06 10:20:00
http://dailythunder.com/monday-bolts-3-6-17/
BallSoHard
2017-03-06 10:33:00
Completely agree. It's done with purpose and I think it has worked. One way to rattle Russ is to stir him up. Often people say this will make Russ go off. I disagree. A calmed and controlled Russ is way better than a hot headed Russ.